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Your Baja Bucket List

aburruss - 10-26-2019 at 10:14 PM

You've got three days to spend in Baja (forget about driving - for this scenario you can instantly get to any destination) ....

Where do you go? Who do you see? What do you do? Where do you eat?

Beagle - 10-26-2019 at 10:34 PM

Secret spot.

No one.

Surf.

Taco shop.

Paulina - 10-27-2019 at 12:00 AM

This is a fun question and I'm excited to toss in my answer because I'm going to make this bucket list adventure happen, darn it!

1. Where do I go?
Bahia de Los Angeles, south of town, and a bit south around Valle Las Flores. See this old map, copied from one of David K's posts.


2. Who do I see? This vaquero, Guillermo Villavicencio, and because this is an instant gratification bucket list post, we've already planned for mules to be at this location.


3. What do we do? We are going to discover the trail/route up and over the mountain ridge, ending up at Rancho San Gregorio. See David's map.


4. Where do we eat? First two days of our bucket list adventure we will eat on the trail.




Third day of our adventure will end with a home cooked meal.


Thanks for asking! I'll make a trip report when this bucket has been filled.

P>*)))>{



David K - 10-27-2019 at 07:57 AM

Great post... but just three days?

A bucket list is usually for things you want to do but haven't yet...
Since I have been fortunate to have seen so much of Baja and done so many fun explorations, there are for me these "bucket list" items:

1) Find the Melchior Diaz Grave (Walter Henderson's Rockpile).
2) Get to the Mission San Pedro Mártir site, preferably by helicopter.
3) Go with my wife on a whale encounter.

If the three days does not need to be at a new location but just at a favorite one, then it would be three days of relaxation on Shell Island.

Lee - 10-27-2019 at 08:15 AM

Quote: Originally posted by aburruss  
You've got three days to spend in Baja (forget about driving - for this scenario you can instantly get to any destination) ....

Where do you go? Who do you see? What do you do? Where do you eat?


No idea where you're starting from. If escaping the cold and snow, fly to Cabo stay at the Palmilla.

https://www.oneandonlyresorts.com/palmilla

Lay by the pool, walk on the beach, taxi to San Jose for food. Not really a bucket list.

HeyMulegeScott - 10-27-2019 at 08:38 AM

Still on my list to see the grey whales. Paddle/snorkel with whale sharks. Dive Cabo Pulmo with bull sharks (maybe).

BajaMama - 10-27-2019 at 10:32 AM

I would spend three days kayak camping and fishing in Bahia Conception. Food: tacos and beer of course.

TMW - 10-27-2019 at 11:05 AM

Paulina's trip/adventure sounds great.

I would like to take my time and do the No Wimp Trail one more time. Probably never happen since it has been fenced off with locked gates. But one can dream can't they.

matthew_mangus - 10-27-2019 at 11:57 AM

I'm in the middle of planning a 'bucket list' Baja adventure for myself and some friends for next Feb. As mentioned above, a grey whale experience with a loved one (I'm really looking forward to this) is a primary one. Relaxing on remote beaches, snorkeling in the Cabo Pulmo marine preserve and eating well are also high priority items.

I put together a slide deck for to manage expectations for my group that can be viewed here: https://www.beautiful.ai/player/-LsDZpjHhNUmV84_hibo You will recognize the locations - no secrets with this crowd!

wilderone - 10-27-2019 at 02:42 PM

Gotta get in the water with whale sharks.

Bajaboy - 10-27-2019 at 03:30 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Paulina  
This is a fun question and I'm excited to toss in my answer because I'm going to make this bucket list adventure happen, darn it!

1. Where do I go?
Bahia de Los Angeles, south of town, and a bit south around Valle Las Flores. See this old map, copied from one of David K's posts.


2. Who do I see? This vaquero, Guillermo Villavicencio, and because this is an instant gratification bucket list post, we've already planned for mules to be at this location.


3. What do we do? We are going to discover the trail/route up and over the mountain ridge, ending up at Rancho San Gregorio. See David's map.


4. Where do we eat? First two days of our bucket list adventure we will eat on the trail.




Third day of our adventure will end with a home cooked meal.


Thanks for asking! I'll make a trip report when this bucket has been filled.

P>*)))>{




We are in the process of planning a trip from Sierra de San Francisco out to the Sea of Cortez via mules. Sounds somewhat similar to yours. Great minds think alike!

JZ - 10-27-2019 at 03:32 PM

No one place. Driving/riding the trails or going from bay to bay on the water is the best to me.

The journey is the adventure.



[Edited on 10-27-2019 by JZ]

Nikno - 10-27-2019 at 03:37 PM

My top 3 would be:

- Climb Picacho del Diablo (Highest peak in Baja)

- Hike to Mission San Pedro de Martir (David can pick me up in the helicopter)

- Find a new 4x4 route from Hwy 5 to Hwy 1 (Maybe El Placer de los Perita wash)

Btw for everyone posting about grey whales, check out Antonio's Eco Resort on San Ignacio Lagoon. They are the only operator that is locally owned and operated. Daniel, Antonio's son is a great guide, very knowledgable and an amazing guy.

Paulina - 10-27-2019 at 03:52 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  


We are in the process of planning a trip from Sierra de San Francisco out to the Sea of Cortez via mules. Sounds somewhat similar to yours. Great minds think alike!


Zac,

I want a route from Bahia to the ranch so I can ride back and forth on a mule. I don't want to use the main road via San Borja. Guillermo knows the range and says it's possible, we just have to find the time to do it. He just asked me two nights ago when I want to go.
If you're up to adding company to your bucket list adventure, keep us in mind!

P>*)))>{

David K - 10-27-2019 at 04:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Paulina  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  


We are in the process of planning a trip from Sierra de San Francisco out to the Sea of Cortez via mules. Sounds somewhat similar to yours. Great minds think alike!


Zac,

I want a route from Bahia to the ranch so I can ride back and forth on a mule. I don't want to use the main road via San Borja. Guillermo knows the range and says it's possible, we just have to find the time to do it. He just asked me two nights ago when I want to go.
If you're up to adding company to your bucket list adventure, keep us in mind!

P>*)))>{


Is using the Terminal Canyon trail out of the question on a mule? This was how the gold/silver ore was brought down from San Juan before the cable tram bucket line was installed. The next known trail would be the Golfo Camino Real, past El Aguaje... then turn north off the Camino Real towards Las Flores.

ZipLine - 10-27-2019 at 05:29 PM

Three days at a preferably very small, very exclusive six-star resort with a great spa and great food. Good views preferably of the sea, but mountains/desert views okay if unusually spectacular. No desire to run place to place. One place - done right.

Two daily massages AM and PM. Lots of hot tubbing, a few naps, lots of frozen margaritas. One outrageous meal per day with super snacking (pate, ceviche, tacos al pastor) in between.

A dark-eyed beauty with long dark hair (could be my wife!) as a companion.

Sit on my *ss and enjoy it.

This could be something like a very upscale Rancho Meiling type place. Way out in the weeds.

Beat that, you peasants!

Mr. Bills - 10-27-2019 at 05:33 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ZipLine  

. . . Beat that, you peasants!


BTDT

JZ - 10-27-2019 at 06:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ZipLine  
Three days at a preferably very small, very exclusive six-star resort with a great spa and great food. Good views preferably of the sea, but mountains/desert views okay if unusually spectacular. No desire to run place to place. One place - done right.

Two daily massages AM and PM. Lots of hot tubbing, a few naps, lots of frozen margaritas. One outrageous meal per day with super snacking (pate, ceviche, tacos al pastor) in between.

A dark-eyed beauty with long dark hair (could be my wife!) as a companion.

Sit on my *ss and enjoy it.

This could be something like a very upscale Rancho Meiling type place. Way out in the weeds.

Beat that, you peasants!


Easy. Drift on the hook in a beautiful bay with cliff on both sides. No one around for miles. Cooler full of ice cold Pacificos and lime. Cool tunes playing. Hot, humid, sultry weather. A lightning show in the distance across the Sea of Cortez. A couple senoritas to keep you company. Lots of late night swims. All my favorite things in life.




[Edited on 10-28-2019 by JZ]

4x4abc - 10-27-2019 at 09:07 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Nikno  
My top 3 would be:

- Climb Picacho del Diablo (Highest peak in Baja)

- Hike to Mission San Pedro de Martir (David can pick me up in the helicopter)

- Find a new 4x4 route from Hwy 5 to Hwy 1 (Maybe El Placer de los Perita wash)

Btw for everyone posting about grey whales, check out Antonio's Eco Resort on San Ignacio Lagoon. They are the only operator that is locally owned and operated. Daniel, Antonio's son is a great guide, very knowledgable and an amazing guy.


Arroyo El Placer de los Peralta is the ticket. I have done most of it from both sides. A small group of experts can probably make it work. A bit much work alone.

David K - 10-28-2019 at 08:51 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Quote: Originally posted by Nikno  
My top 3 would be:

- Climb Picacho del Diablo (Highest peak in Baja)

- Hike to Mission San Pedro de Martir (David can pick me up in the helicopter)

- Find a new 4x4 route from Hwy 5 to Hwy 1 (Maybe El Placer de los Perita wash)

Btw for everyone posting about grey whales, check out Antonio's Eco Resort on San Ignacio Lagoon. They are the only operator that is locally owned and operated. Daniel, Antonio's son is a great guide, very knowledgable and an amazing guy.


Arroyo El Placer de los Peralta is the ticket. I have done most of it from both sides. A small group of experts can probably make it work. A bit much work alone.


I tried to find a road to it going north from El Mármol (left fork at Mile 2.0 on the La Olvidada road)... after a few miles, it ended at a drug runner landing strip!

4x4abc - 10-28-2019 at 10:00 AM

look 3+ miles NW of that airstrip:


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Nikno - 10-28-2019 at 10:48 AM

Harald, the track you posted leads to the top of Zamora. Based on studying satellite images and topographic maps plus what I have read on various forums, Peralta (Or Perita in the Almanac) has a better chance of going through. Basically heading northwest at:

30.10168, -114.68319

Have you poked around up there? There is an old mining road that ends at:

30.144878, -114.800060

4x4abc - 10-28-2019 at 12:04 PM

locations:

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ZipLine - 10-28-2019 at 01:16 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Mr. Bills  
Quote: Originally posted by ZipLine  

. . . Beat that, you peasants!


BTDT


Me too. That's why I want to do it again. If you don't want to do it again, you didn't do it right the first time. Try again...

Nikno - 10-28-2019 at 01:23 PM

Thank you for the clarification. I was misreading the map. The one I am talking about is an offshoot of Peralta. Might be called Canon de Huerfanita.


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Have you checked this one out before? Do you know the name?

4x4abc - 10-28-2019 at 01:53 PM

Arroyo El Huerfanito here:

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the arroyo north of Cerro El Huerfanito has no official name.
I tried the western entrance of it - did not find it suitable for 4x4
bikes should be OK

Nikno - 10-28-2019 at 04:53 PM

I found something pretty cool while poking around in Google Earth. It looks like there is an oasis in Arroyo Placer de los Peralta (*correction). It appears to be about 160 feet long and 80 feet wide with quite a few palm trees as well. Hard to know if it's accessible but I'm going to put it on my bucket list!

30.11135, -114.77563

Check it out and tell me what you think:


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DawnPatrol - 10-28-2019 at 05:52 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Great post... but just three days?

A bucket list is usually for things you want to do but haven't yet...
Since I have been fortunate to have seen so much of Baja and done so many fun explorations, there are for me these "bucket list" items:

1) Find the Melchior Diaz Grave (Walter Henderson's Rockpile).
2) Get to the Mission San Pedro Mártir site, preferably by helicopter.
3) Go with my wife on a whale encounter.

David; Finally convinced my wife to go to Ojo de Liebre and pet whales with Shari Bondy as guide...
AWESOME lifetime experience
you can tell people about it but until you experience it.... WOW


If the three days does not need to be at a new location but just at a favorite one, then it would be three days of relaxation on Shell Island.

Paulina - 10-28-2019 at 07:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by Paulina  


Zac,

I want a route from Bahia to the ranch so I can ride back and forth on a mule. I don't want to use the main road via San Borja. Guillermo knows the range and says it's possible, we just have to find the time to do it. He just asked me two nights ago when I want to go.
If you're up to adding company to your bucket list adventure, keep us in mind!

P>*)))>{


Is using the Terminal Canyon trail out of the question on a mule? This was how the gold/silver ore was brought down from San Juan before the cable tram bucket line was installed. The next known trail would be the Golfo Camino Real, past El Aguaje... then turn north off the Camino Real towards Las Flores.


David,
Guillermo and I talked about this route over the summer. He said that the way over the mountain is less steep south of Las Flores. I don't know exactly where and should have pulled out a topo map at the time. Darn it!

P>*)))>{

4x4abc - 10-28-2019 at 10:36 PM

this is the easiest one


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4x4abc - 10-28-2019 at 11:05 PM

here is the one at the terminal


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David K - 10-29-2019 at 06:46 AM

Harald, Doc (Camp Gecko) and I hiked some of the trail up from the terminal, and it was in the canyon and not on the ridgetop.

BajaBlanca - 10-29-2019 at 07:33 AM

What fun to dream!

For those who want to swim with the whale sharks, hurry up and do it because it was much more difficult than I imagined it to be! We did it in La Paz. Well, I went but can't say I was able to swim with them, they swam by me (does that count???).

Agua Verde,

The Observatory

Those are 2 places I want on my bucket list!


4x4abc - 10-29-2019 at 07:42 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Harald, Doc (Camp Gecko) and I hiked some of the trail up from the terminal, and it was in the canyon and not on the ridgetop.


I know that trail - but I did not have good enough sat images to create a file

4x4abc - 10-29-2019 at 08:00 AM

there is about a dozen or so trails going up and down those mountains
here is another one:


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David K - 10-29-2019 at 09:09 AM

This sidebar topic on San Juan would be great in its own thread in the hiking forum, perhaps?

thebajarunner - 10-29-2019 at 03:17 PM

Back to the question, if I may.....

1. Camping out under the stars in Catavina

2. Kissing a whale at Laguna San Ignacio

3. Driving a competitive vehicle in the Baja 1000

hmmmmm, done 'em all, guess I need to work on a new list
but cannot improve on this one, for sure!!!

bajamary1952 - 10-31-2019 at 10:25 AM

I went to Cabo Pulmo last winter and was shocked at the amount of development going on there and many areas I visisted in the past are now fenced. So I assume that area will become another Cabo San Lucas. So much for it being a "reserve" which has a dubious meaning here in Mexico.