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Spoons: with or without ? (swivels)

caj13 - 12-11-2019 at 08:08 AM

Ok guys,
I'm always confused, I see and hear people saying tie the spoon directly to the line, or it won't have the correct action.
On the other hand, I hear people say use a swivel, it will avoid the dreaded line twist, and it does not affect the action / effectiveness of the lure.

so I figured - why not come to the horses mouth.
any opinions, information,?

also - different from the beach as opposed to trolling?

[Edited on 12-11-2019 by caj13]

bkbend - 12-11-2019 at 10:28 AM

You'll probably get a 50/50 split of opinions and not solve your dilemma. I'm in the direct tie camp but I tend to troll or retrieve very slowly to keep a spoon near the bottom. I get a little twist (but not problematic) and I suspect that a fast troll would get you more twist.

In my case I tend to use other lures more often which do work better when tied directly so if I switch to a spoon type I don't have that swivel already on the line and just don't bother with it.

Paco Facullo - 12-11-2019 at 10:39 AM

I tie a swivel and have a 4' to 5' leader to the spoon...

Don Pisto - 12-11-2019 at 11:04 AM

snip em off and pitch em......if you feel you need one while trolling at least use a quality black one;)

BornFisher - 12-11-2019 at 11:33 AM

Using a shiny swivel will get you bitten off by sierra and other toothy critters.

John Harper - 12-11-2019 at 11:36 AM

Swivels work good for Krocodiles. For Kastmasters, install a split ring if there is not one already, and tie to the split ring, no swivel. I like using a Palomar knot for tying on spoons and hardbaits.

John

DaliDali - 12-11-2019 at 11:52 AM

The less hardware the better....

Alan - 12-11-2019 at 12:24 PM

I use a swivel then add a 4'- 5' flourocarbon leader to which I can run a spoon or slow troll a live bait. Not really required for a live bait but once they die they will spin like crazy

bajabuddha - 12-11-2019 at 12:28 PM

I use a double-eye black swivel with 2'-3' of heavy leader (like 30 lb test) in between the swivel and my crocodile. Schooling fish like barracuda and sierra will hit 2-3 fish at a time trying to get the 'bait' for themselves, check the leader often for frays.

Allwaters - 10-30-2020 at 08:07 AM

Quote: Originally posted by caj13  
Ok guys,
I'm always confused, I see and hear people saying tie the spoon directly to the line, or it won't have the correct action.
On the other hand, I hear people say use a swivel, it will avoid the dreaded line twist, and it does not affect the action / effectiveness of the lure.

so I figured - why not come to the horses mouth.
any opinions, information,?

also - different from the beach as opposed to trolling?

[Edited on 12-11-2019 by caj13]


GO WITH SWIVELS!!!!! The issue is not necessarily the action but it is about line twist, especially with a spinning reel. If the line gets a severe twist it will make fishing near impossible not to mention weakening at kinks too.

[Edited on 11-1-2020 by BajaNomad]