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Feb 3 2020 Wimps attempt from the South

PaulW - 2-10-2020 at 04:14 PM

Feb 3 2020 Wimps attempt from the South

Followed the usual route until just past El Gato. Then we found we found a heavily used track which we followed. It is a good track with some maintenance, and it bypasses the traditional track to La Trinidad. It intersects the traditional coast road and saves about 8 miles and a lot of rock crawling. We then proceeded to the first Playa to camp. This camp is 70 miles from the San Ignacio PMEX. The next day we drove passed the property boundary at the division between N and S Baja. There were several big new signs telling you not to proceed. Next, we kept driving up the coast to the turnaround at the substantial locked gate with more intimidating signs. 84 miles from Ignacio PMEX.




As we traveled east from El Gato the first deviation from the traditional track was when we bypassed the old track sand area. After that bypass a good 2wd road was followed.

Here are some useful WPS:
84 mile Locked gate 28 01.586, -112 48.287
Property boundary N/S Baja 28 0.031, -112 45.974
70 mile Camp 27 55. 269, -112 45.802
Jct at the coast old vs new 27 51.37, -112 46.093
Jct for sand area 27 49.808, -112 51.219
Jct across the arroyo to the new road 27 49.98, -112 50.993
Santa Marta 27 32.314, -11256.611
Goat Farm 27 32.606, -112 57.923
Hwy 1 27 21.577, -112 42.667



Locked gate

Sign @ 27 44 30.432, -112 53 44.052



El Triunfo
27 44 30.432, 112 53 44.052


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[Edited on 2-11-2020 by BajaNomad]

[Edited on 2-15-2020 by PaulW]

JZ - 2-10-2020 at 04:28 PM

Paul, this is incredible work and very appreciated.


John Harper - 2-10-2020 at 04:37 PM

I don't think it's La Caingada, try again, you're close. Nice report and great photos.

John


[Edited on 2-10-2020 by John Harper]

David K - 2-10-2020 at 05:20 PM

New post on Ride Baja (Facebook) by Shawn Packer shows photos of locked gate just 3 miles from El Barril, on the north end: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ridebaja/

mtgoat666 - 2-10-2020 at 05:24 PM

UMA La Independencia is a carlos slim project; in 2017 they proposed a development of housing, condos, airstrip, etc.


PaulW - 2-10-2020 at 05:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
New post on Ride Baja (Facebook) by Shawn Packer shows photos of locked gate just 3 miles from El Barril, on the north end: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ridebaja/

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sure would like to see. nothing so far just the first page.

David K - 2-10-2020 at 06:00 PM

It is the top post, just below the top...

PaulW - 2-10-2020 at 06:28 PM

Courtesy for Ride Baja
North gate





advrider - 2-10-2020 at 06:47 PM

Good stuff, sure would be nice to make the full ride...

AKgringo - 2-10-2020 at 07:12 PM

Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  

What do you suggest is the spelling?
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Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
I don't think it's La Caingada, try again, you're close. Nice report and great photos.

John




I think that John is implying that the first 'A' in Caingada is supposed to be an 'H'.

[Edited on 2-11-2020 by AKgringo]

4x4abc - 2-10-2020 at 07:28 PM

Casa de la (stupid Nomad software does not allow the real name) Caingada [replace the a with an h and you have it]

do they mean the Casona San Miguel?
no other houses around before getting to El Barril

[Edited on 2-11-2020 by 4x4abc]

4x4abc - 2-10-2020 at 07:32 PM

UMA Independencia: http://www.hiptex.com.mx/noticias/1173/tramita-slim-mega-des...

4x4abc - 2-10-2020 at 07:42 PM

I expected the "shortcut" road to be put in sooner or later
it is in Arroyo La Palmita
there always was a well established trail in this canyon
possibly from missionary times

I have driven it years ago

glad to see it to be "official now"

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4x4abc - 2-10-2020 at 07:50 PM

Goat Farm 27 32.606, -112 57.923 is Rancho El Sauce

4x4abc - 2-10-2020 at 08:00 PM

Rancho El Triunfo is one of the many Boleo cattle ranchos

most ranchos from the missionary times have christian names (like Santa Marta)

most ranchos from the early settlement period starting around 1820 have hopeful, prosperous names (like La Fortuna)

all newly founded Boleo ranchos around 1900 (about 50) follow that pattern
however some of the older ranchos they "adopted" kept their christian names (like El Rosarito and San Carlos in the area)

JZ - 2-10-2020 at 09:02 PM

I spent a good week or two researching the No Wimps trail a year ago. Really wanted to ride it in 2019, but we didn't make it. Because of the locked gates I had planned to do it from the South as Paul did.

Harold had already told me about the La Palmita short-cut, but he suggested it was bike only. Fantastic to hear it is good for a truck. That eliminates the hardest part of the trip (unless you want to run through the wash to have fun).

I compared Paul's way points to mine and they were spot on.

Here is the entire area that I have.




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JZ - 2-10-2020 at 09:28 PM

Here's a spot that has intrigued me for the last year or so. Haven't seen anyone talk about it, and I haven't worked out the full trail to it yet.

Has anyone been out to the lake bed near El Gato? 27.832763° -112.948953°

It looks like it would be fun as hell to rip down it. Very well flanked by mountains.






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4x4abc - 2-10-2020 at 11:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Here's a spot that has intrigued me for the last year or so. Haven't seen anyone talk about it, and I haven't worked out the full trail to it yet.

Has anyone been out to the lake bed near El Gato? 27.832763° -112.948953°

It looks like it would be fun as hell to rip down it. Very well flanked by mountains.



sure - you take the old Boleo roadbed first (not easy)
and then there will be truck track going to Laguna El Gato

the track you proposed (close to or in Arroyo El Gato) works too when you start at Rancho El Gato
there used to be a Boleo track from Cerro El Piojo that is shorter, but the first 1/3 is washed out and hard to find

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4x4abc - 2-10-2020 at 11:50 PM

For anyone going in from the south - I highly recommend driving up Arroyo San Juan
A waterfall will eventually stop you

Great Canyon Drive!

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JZ - 2-11-2020 at 01:26 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
For anyone going in from the south - I highly recommend driving up Arroyo San Juan
A waterfall will eventually stop you

Great Canyon Drive!


Where is this?

David K - 2-11-2020 at 01:49 PM

Just south of the 28° parallel and runs west to east.

Arrow: 27.9469, -112.8655

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4x4abc - 2-11-2020 at 09:03 PM

looks like you have a trail marked in your last image David.

I have been looking for that trail for a long time.
Haven't found it yet.
Goes to Visita San Juan de las Parras

I located a man made ramp going in and out of the arroyo, but not much more

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honda tom - 2-11-2020 at 10:15 PM

did it on bikes in 2003, did it in a 4 wheel drive (never engaged the front ) in 2013. when we got through we found out that Ricardo at Rice and beans in san Ignacio had purchased a large property around the La Trinadad area. He and a group of investors wanted to develop something out there. I think he would be the one to talk to if coming from the south..... he is an off road friendly guy.

4x4abc - 2-11-2020 at 10:55 PM

La Trinidad investors different than San Miguel investors

David K - 2-12-2020 at 07:09 AM

Harald, that is the road shown on the topo maps in Arroyo San Juan. The arrow I added so that JZ could see where it was...

What Arroyo San Juan were you talking about if not that one?

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
For anyone going in from the south - I highly recommend driving up Arroyo San Juan
A waterfall will eventually stop you

Great Canyon Drive!


Where is this?


[Edited on 2-12-2020 by David K]

4x4abc - 2-12-2020 at 08:45 AM

which set of topo maps, David?

and yes, that same canyon

David K - 2-12-2020 at 09:48 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
which set of topo maps, David?

and yes, that same canyon


https://caltopo.com/map.html (the aerial topo hybrid)