BajaNomad - California announcing its first death, which it linked to a cruise ship

California announcing its first death, which it linked to a cruise ship

Alm - 3-4-2020 at 03:13 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/04/health/us-coronavirus-update-...

Another case related to cruise ship, this time sailing between SF and Ensenada. Not clear whether Ensenada had anything to do with this.

WA remains a hot spot. Incidentally, there is a huge Chinese population there, as well as in the adjacent British Columbia.

[Edited on 3-4-2020 by Alm]

Bajazly - 3-4-2020 at 05:51 PM

The article said SF and Mexico, didn't see where it said anything about Ensenada although that is a popular port but a 10 day may skip over Ensenada to get further south quicker.

Alm - 3-4-2020 at 06:51 PM

The article that mentioned sailing to Ensenada was on secure page of my bank, pasting the link didn't work. The latest sailing of that ship was supposed to be SF-Hawaii with Ensendada call on the return leg, by that time the passenger from the previous voyage died and they cancelled stop in Ensenada: https://nypost.com/2020/03/04/grand-princess-cruise-cancels-...

[Edited on 3-5-2020 by Alm]

mtgoat666 - 3-4-2020 at 08:16 PM

That cruise ship reports 20+ people with flu-like symptoms, so it has been denied entry to San Fran,... I suppose it will float off nor cal coast until clear,... but winds are on shore, so you coastal NorCal people best put on your masks!

surabi - 3-5-2020 at 01:11 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Alm

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/04/health/us-coronavirus-update-...

WA remains a hot spot. Incidentally, there is a huge Chinese population there, as well as in the adjacent British Columbia.

[Edited on 3-4-2020 by Alm]

And what does resident Chinese populations have to do with it? It's a contagious virus, not something one manifests simply because they happen to be of Chinese heritage.

ehall - 3-5-2020 at 04:46 AM

Quote: Originally posted by surabi

Quote: Originally posted by Alm

And what does resident Chinese populations have to do with it? It's a contagious virus, not something one manifests simply because they happen to be of Chinese heritage.

Haha. People have also stopped eating Chinese food and going to Chinatown.

bajabuddha - 3-5-2020 at 06:26 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

,... but winds are on shore, so you coastal NorCal people best put on your masks!

Goathead, masks are for sick people to keep the virus from spreading. The 'mask pandemic' of everyone buying them up is shorting medical pro's who rely on 'em.

Get yer facts straight and quit eating beer cans.

mtgoat666 - 3-5-2020 at 07:02 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

,... but winds are on shore, so you coastal NorCal people best put on your masks!

Goathead, masks are for sick people to keep the virus from spreading. The 'mask pandemic' of everyone buying them up is shorting medical pro's who rely on 'em.

I guess it appears a bit hypocritical when the doctors scold the public and say masks are only for sick people, then the doctors all wear masks so they don’t get sick...

:lol:

mtgoat666 - 3-5-2020 at 08:15 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Alm

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/04/health/us-coronavirus-update-...

Another case related to cruise ship, this time sailing between SF and Ensenada. Not clear whether Ensenada had anything to do with this.

WA remains a hot spot. Incidentally, there is a huge Chinese population there, as well as in the adjacent British Columbia.

[Edited on 3-4-2020 by Alm]

Alm,
The “Chinese” in WA are primarily US Citizens, or “Americans.”

God bless America!

caj13 - 3-5-2020 at 09:54 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

,... but winds are on shore, so you coastal NorCal people best put on your masks!

Goathead, masks are for sick people to keep the virus from spreading. The 'mask pandemic' of everyone buying them up is shorting medical pro's who rely on 'em.

I guess it appears a bit hypocritical when the doctors scold the public and say masks are only for sick people, then the doctors all wear masks so they don’t get sick...

:lol:

Actually Goat - medical professionals wear specific spec masks in conjunction with gloves, and sanitization protocols and training to not touch the mask or face, and they actually have to get mask fit tests every year. That's a bit different than going out and buying a mask of unknown quality and using it without proper training, or any protocols.

The Chinese Menace

MrBillM - 3-5-2020 at 10:22 AM

Arriving home ayer en la tarde, my wife retrieves the mail and I find that my latest EBay order arrived from CHINA.

I considered whether or not to simply burn it, but since she (and I) had already handled it .............. Oh Well. Cacamas Occurs !

Que Sera Sera.

Given the FACT that the most-affected group (fatalities-wise) is US and (short of hiding in the house for months) the impossibility of avoiding daily contact, I figure that we're probably screwed, anyway. Having arrived at the worn-out aged stage, I wouldn't mind so much, but I imagine that it's a fairly miserable way to go.

We're hoping for something of a delay. Hate to miss one last St. Pat's Day.

I'd like to see Uncle Joe beat the Putz, too, but that seems to be too far down the road.

Concerned over probable panic-buying, we're heading out for necessary supplies. Stella Artois, Guinness, Jameson's and a few canned goods.

paranewbi - 3-5-2020 at 11:01 AM

Quote: Originally posted by caj13

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Quote: Originally posted by bajabuddha

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

,... but winds are on shore, so you coastal NorCal people best put on your masks!

Goathead, masks are for sick people to keep the virus from spreading. The 'mask pandemic' of everyone buying them up is shorting medical pro's who rely on 'em.

I guess it appears a bit hypocritical when the doctors scold the public and say masks are only for sick people, then the doctors all wear masks so they don’t get sick...

:lol:

Actually...they wear masks where pertinent to keep the patient from getting exposed to whatever those providing medical care MIGHT have due to the expected weakened state of the Patient. The patient is the one at risk in a hospital environment.

Bajaboy - 3-5-2020 at 11:44 AM

This is all fake news...Prez Trump says so...nothing to see here...now how about that stock market and the great economy

Lee - 3-5-2020 at 11:55 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy

This is all fake news...Prez Trump says so...nothing to see here...now how about that stock market and the great economy

Right. Market drops 1k points in last 30 minutes. Mass confusion and WH is adding to that. Way to go.

It would be credible for anyone posting about the virus to post facts rather than what they read one time on facebook, or Cosmo.

Believe everything you read and pass it off as facts if you want -- humor is always appreciated in the Land of Confusion.

Looking for FACTS ?

MrBillM - 3-5-2020 at 02:25 PM

Nobody in their right mind would listen to the White House occupant.

Whose latest is to blame (who else but ?) Obama for problems in rolling out testing.

Citing an Obama FDA rule that he (Trump) claims to have reversed.

The slight problem there is that the "proposed" rule under B.O. was discussed, weighed, discounted and NEVER adopted.

The Buck NEVER stops in this administration. Regardless of inconvenient FACTS.

The developing panic may be justified.

Speaking of which, in the Market free-fall this afternoon, there were bright spots. Mainly, suppliers of provisions such as Campbell (canned soups), Hunt (canned goods), Kroger (groceries), etc.

Incidentally, while Stater Bros. was busy earlier, it seemed relatively normal AND we saw only (1) person wearing a mask. Male, OLD, 300+ lbs., riding a cart.

John Harper - 3-5-2020 at 03:01 PM

Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM

Incidentally, while Stater Bros. was busy earlier, it seemed relatively normal AND we saw only (1) person wearing a mask. Male, OLD, 300+ lbs., riding a cart.

And he's worried about coronavirus. Hilarious. Diabetes and heart failure are far more likely causes of death.

John

mtgoat666 - 3-5-2020 at 04:39 PM

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper

Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM

Incidentally, while Stater Bros. was busy earlier, it seemed relatively normal AND we saw only (1) person wearing a mask. Male, OLD, 300+ lbs., riding a cart.

And he's worried about coronavirus. Hilarious. Diabetes and heart failure are far more likely causes of death.

John

Diabetes and heart disease are manageable conditions, well, manageable to a degree. Corona virus is serious for obese/elderly, so mask seems wise.

I know many people that smoke, and also wear seat belts when driving.
Their wearing seat belts and smoking is not hilarious (unless they are telling funny jokes).
Just managing each unique risk individually.

Different strokes for different folks, eh?

Bajazly - 3-5-2020 at 04:43 PM

The US is at #10 in the world on infections and #5 in deaths now, 55 new cases and 1 new fatality today.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

John Harper - 3-5-2020 at 05:01 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Diabetes and heart disease are manageable conditions, well, manageable to a degree. Corona virus is serious for obese/elderly, so mask seems wise.
Different strokes for different folks, eh?

If he wasn't 300 pounds in the first place, both those issues may not even exist. Goatster, aren't you the first one to criticize people's lifestyles?

And, it's most likely his stroke, not mine. My BMI is 23, how about you?

John

[Edited on 3-6-2020 by John Harper]

Ateo - 3-5-2020 at 07:06 PM

I believe this ship went to Manzanillo, Mazatlan, and Cabo - NOT Ensenada.

[Edited on 3-6-2020 by Ateo]

No Worries - Ignorance is Best ?

MrBillM - 3-6-2020 at 10:04 AM

Watching a discussion/Q & A this a.m. on C-Span, one caller voiced the opinion that there was just too much (24/7) coverage from the media frightening people. Her advice was that limited coverage should ONLY distribute known FACTS with NO expert opinions/advice, etc. that would SCARE people.

SO .................. there ya go. Stay Happy and the problem will go away.

BajaTed - 3-6-2020 at 06:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Ateo

I believe this ship went to Manzanillo, Mazatlan, and Cabo - NOT Ensenada.

[Edited on 3-6-2020 by Ateo]

Per the newscasts; the ship was diverted after leaving Hawaii from enroute to Ensenada to circling off of San Francisco. Mostly crew members most likely because they are the ones exposed to the viral source.
Strike 1# for baja

Ateo - 3-6-2020 at 06:20 PM

Sorry but I’m talking about the previous trip this boat made. Not the one that went to Hawaii and is awaiting docking in SF.

bajaguy - 3-6-2020 at 06:47 PM

Did not stop in Ensenada..............

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/mexican-offic...

No Worries !

MrBillM - 3-7-2020 at 10:26 AM

Heard straight from the Big Orange during his CDC visit that the administration response to the virus is PERFECT ! Well, almost as perfect as the DT Ukraine call, he says. It is also reassuring that Donnie revealed his "natural talent" for absorbing information resulting in EVERY doctor he spoke with there telling him that they were amazed at how much he knew.

Obviously, we could not be in better (though small) hands. Worry not. I've got a HUNCH that ALL will be OK.

Especially with Mikey praying.

mtgoat666 - 3-7-2020 at 10:46 AM

Unfortunately, trump and his administration have such a long history of telling lies, you cannot believe anything said by trump and his lackeys.
His base loved the lies and bluster up until 2 weeks ago. But now that the subject is our health, the pattern of 50-lies-per-day is haunting trump, no one believes him or his lackeys!
Beware of trump, he will spin any and all info to make himself look good, and if it is to his benefit, he will hide the info that you need to survive!
Beware of pence! Pence is a suck @ss who repeats lies in his fawning brown-nosing of trump. Pence is a spineless follower, he is just a puppet of trump, lies when told to lie!

Pence refuses to meet with female health professionals one-on-one. He refuses to meet with any female one-on-one. He is such a horn dog that he cannot control himself in the presence of a woman.

What a flocked up White House!

[Edited on 3-7-2020 by mtgoat666]

mtgoat666 - 3-8-2020 at 09:52 AM

Trump is preventing public health professionals from doing their jobs, and people WILL die due to trump’s irresponsible actions

3-7-20
NEW YORK (AP) — The White House overruled health officials who wanted to recommend that elderly and physically fragile Americans be advised not to fly on commercial airlines because of the new coronavirus, a federal official told The Associated Press.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention submitted the plan this week as a way of trying to control the virus, but White House officials ordered the air travel recommendation be removed, said the official who had direct knowledge of the plan. Trump administration officials have since suggested certain people should consider not traveling, but they have stopped short of the stronger guidance sought by the CDC.

Hunches and Hoaxes

MrBillM - 3-11-2020 at 06:43 PM

SO ................ After watching the D.T. "Blame the Chinese and Ban the (non-UK) Euros" spiel this p.m., I suppose that his Hunch the virus will just go away some day is no longer the WH line.