BajaNomad

Scenic Tire Repairs

geoffff - 3-24-2020 at 11:10 PM

Earlier this month I drove down to Baja for some more adventure. But, once again, multiple mechanical issues cropped up with my van and I didn't end up getting all that much done.

Last year my Baja trip was cut short when I ripped the sidewall of one of my tires out on Sierra los Galivanes, and then couldn't locate a suitably sized spare. Well, this year I wasn't such a tire wimp!

Actually, I didn't have much of a choice this time. I gashed two of my tires.

I was heading out to see Ensenada el Mangle to investigate the abandoned villas there [GPS:26.2775,-111.3951]. Just after passing the old entrance wall along the rocky entrance road, a huge boulder jumped out of the bushes and impaled its rocky tooth into *both* of my left-side tires. (Yeah... I'm not always so good at being "careful" when I'm driving.)




What to do? I knew I wasn't going to get out of there on three tires. I've plugged up many tire punctures with those sticky rope worm things, but I've always assumed a sidewall gash meant the tire was a goner.

But I've watched Youtube videos on field-repair! I've seen how people sew up their tire sidewall holes!

Me, I've never even removed a tire from its rim (bicycles don't count)... But why not try? I did have all day...

First, I had to get the tire off the rim. I wasn't having much luck with big screwdrivers. Then I remembered my van's big lug wrench handle has a pointy end. Aha! That must be what it's for! With ample hammering, I managed to use my lug wrench handle to get the tire off the rim.




Then I built a workstation out of rocks to raise one sidewall of the tire above the rim, so I could get access to the inside.




I used an awl, some wire, and a hand mirror to stitch the gashes closed.




With an angle grinder, some tire cement, and a piece of bicycle inner tube, I patched the inside of the tire. (Next time bring real patches!)




Wrestling the tire back onto the rim was just as much fun as the removal!




When it came time to set the bead again, I remembered a Youtube video where a spray can of flammable gas and a match can be used to explosively pressurize the tire. I did have some camping butane stove fuel... Sounds fun!

Actually, no, I decided not to have *that* much fun when I was out there alone in the middle of nowhere. I used a couple of ratchet straps tightened around the tread, and that worked great. With my onboard air compressor, I easily set the bead – without even needing to remove the valve core.

For good measure, I also added a bag of TireJect tire sealing liquid.




The whole process took me over five hours, but in the end - yes, I rolled on out of there!

Here's a 1-minute time-lapse video of my repair from my dash cam. My dash cam only captures motion – so it doesn't properly represent all the time I'm standing around pondering what to do next.

I drove on to the beach at El Mangle to sleep for the night. . .

geoffff - 3-24-2020 at 11:11 PM

The next morning I decided to repair my 2nd damaged tire as well – to double my chances of getting back to civilization. The beach was a far more comfortable workshop than the trail had been yesterday. And a group of fishermen showed up, providing some friendly advice and company.




Tire repair #2. Another masterpiece!




The abandoned villas of Ensenada el Mangle...




As I said, it worked! I made it out of there.

Wire, it turns out, isn't the best stitching material. I should have used Kevlar thread. Wire flexes with every tire rotation, and then the metal fatigues. My stitches all eventually snapped.

A few miles outside of Mulege, I started losing air – so I switched to my other repaired tire, and that got me to the tire shop.




The tire guy at Llantera Mulege shook his head at my work, but was able to provide me a "real" sidewall repair for $200 pesos that got me all the way back to the US, where I could buy two fresh tires.

-- Geoff

[Edited on 3-25-2020 by geoffff]

wessongroup - 3-25-2020 at 02:53 AM

Thanks brings back many memories .... when tubes were used and putting a "boot" in was SOP

Well done and thanks for the pics and report :):)

AKgringo - 3-25-2020 at 05:34 AM

I am impressed! :wow:

Great ingenuity

John M - 3-25-2020 at 06:38 AM

Your fortunate for having the bike tube and glue! Good for you. Think I'm gonna buy a couple of tire boots.

We can't carry everything but these look pretty good. If the link doesn't work you can google tyrepliers Bead Breaker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-TYxLyQh04

John

pacificobob - 3-25-2020 at 07:04 AM

Daaaamn, thats some genuine macgyver moves.
Well done.

Mulege Canuck - 3-25-2020 at 07:25 AM

Well done!

You gotta have a little Canadian in you my man.

honda tom - 3-25-2020 at 09:00 AM

I came to Ensenada Mangle by boat maybe 10-12 years ago.... at that time much of the main house structure was still there (although pushed over). The captain from Loreto, told us a wild story about an Italian doctor that was building the house. The small villas pictured were for guests and staff.
The story went that the doctor had been convicted of his part of a child kidnapping ring...... that harvested organs from the victims for sales on the black market.
After the doctors conviction the military came out and destroyed the partially constructed mansion.
I dont know how true.... but I still tell the story whenever we boat by.

David K - 3-25-2020 at 09:09 AM

You win, Geoff! :bounce::bounce::bounce::light:

Paco Facullo - 3-25-2020 at 09:53 AM

Geoff,

You had me laughing ALL the way through you're tires adventure !:bounce:

The video was the topper, reminded my of the old time Laurel and Hardy films... Hilarious !

surfhat - 3-25-2020 at 10:04 AM

Way to go Geoff. Talk about the mothers of invention, you got that going on.

Ever since the late 80's when I blew two tires and had to rely upon a friend to drive me back to the highway for a fix, I have always carried two spares on rims. Some here poopooed this years ago when I brought it up, but I remain convinced a little extra insurance is wise when one is on your own off-road.

Sewing up a sidewall never entered my mind. I do carry some fix a flat type spray cans that worked well decades ago on the East Cape, but I haven't needed those ever since. Fingers crossed.

Thanks for the great tire tutorial and an insurance carrier that I never go without when south of the border.


AKgringo - 3-25-2020 at 10:15 AM

I don't carry all the tools and gear that Geoff does, but I do carry an inner tube that I could have installed (with a boot) by a tire shop.

BornFisher - 3-25-2020 at 10:33 AM

That is amazing! WTG! Going to have to check out those YouTube vids!!

Pacifico - 3-25-2020 at 11:27 AM

Wow! Great repairs! I'm impressed that you pulled those off while on the trail!

geoffff - 3-25-2020 at 01:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by John M  
We can't carry everything but these look pretty good. If the link doesn't work you can google tyrepliers Bead Breaker


Yes, can't have too many tools!

The first tire broke its own bead in the collision. For the second tired I figured I could just drive up onto the tire, using the weight of the van to break the seal. One of my fisherman friends suggested adding the block of wood, and it worked!


thebajarunner - 3-25-2020 at 01:31 PM

Great report.... the true spirit of Baja resides within you.

We had many tire adventures in the 12 years that I raced, but never attempted a fix like this.

I remember changing tires in the 500 over on the "Sisters" without a jack (dummy co-pilot had left it at the last tire change alongside the road)

Made a pyramid of rocks under the axle, then dug out under the flat.
It was hard hard stuff, and not an easy task.

We called those nasty critters on the side of the ruts "side-biters"
All racers have experienced that sickening moment when a sidewall is shredded. Luckily I never had both go at the same rock.

JZ - 3-25-2020 at 02:17 PM

You are f'ing MacGyver. Bad ass.


AKgringo - 3-25-2020 at 07:51 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Mulege Canuck  
Well done!

You gotta have a little Canadian in you my man.


Geoff must have been a follower of Red Green!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh1Hxc3A2LA

[Edited on 3-26-2020 by AKgringo]

DouglasP - 3-26-2020 at 07:15 AM

Totally impressed! Nice job!

geoffff - 4-4-2020 at 04:17 PM

Quote: Originally posted by honda tom  
I came to Ensenada Mangle by boat maybe 10-12 years ago.... at that time much of the main house structure was still there (although pushed over). The captain from Loreto, told us a wild story about an Italian doctor that was building the house. The small villas pictured were for guests and staff.
The story went that the doctor had been convicted of his part of a child kidnapping ring...... that harvested organs from the victims for sales on the black market.
After the doctors conviction the military came out and destroyed the partially constructed mansion.
I dont know how true.... but I still tell the story whenever we boat by.


Wow!

The only reference I can find to this area is from book "Off Trail Adventures In Baja California" by geologist Markes Johnson. He visited the area in 1998 when the villas were still under construction. He assumed the place was going to be a hotel.
Quote:
One of those portentous gates that announces your arrival on the outskirts of a grand estate appeared around a curve in the road. [...] On closer inspection, we discovered that the chain could be unraveled and gates swung open to admit our vehicle.

The skeletons of three luxury homes sat at the bottom of die hill near a cobble beach. One was whitewashed and nearly complete with its orange-die roof securely in place, but another was still only half built, roughly shaped with bare concrete blocks. The third showed only the bare outlines of its foundation. Across die draw on the neighboring limestone promontory loomed the hulk of a steel-frame building. Its pretensions as a hotel were proclaimed by an enormous palapa shading a large patio overlooking the sea. Two dogs greeted us, barking excitedly as we drove up to the first dwelling. Soon after, there appeared a thin old fellow, a caretaker, who called off the dogs. His name was Hector. His job was to make sure that construction materials, such as the stockpile of concrete blocks, were not pilfered. On learning that we were harmless geologists, he granted permission to explore the surrounding limestone cliffs. Hector was not very forthcoming, however, in satisfying our curiosity about what sort of outfit was invested in developing the land around El Mangle. We never did come up with answers, even after asking discreetly around town back in Loreto.


-- Geoff


[Edited on 4-4-2020 by geoffff]

advrider - 4-4-2020 at 08:07 PM

Nice work, as a kid I worked in a tire shop. To seat the large skinny tractor tires we used starting fluid and a match to blow it on the rim.

Not a bad idea to pick up a couple of tubes for your size tire as a back up, most don't have the skill to install them but you would be just fine. You can get them to fit just about any size tire, I'm sure an online search would turn up something.

geoffff - 4-4-2020 at 08:46 PM

Quote: Originally posted by advrider  
Not a bad idea to pick up a couple of tubes for your size tire as a back up, most don't have the skill to install them but you would be just fine. You can get them to fit just about any size tire, I'm sure an online search would turn up something.


Great idea. I'll find one...

-- Geoff



[Edited on 4-5-2020 by geoffff]

Marc - 4-10-2020 at 07:57 AM

I am impressed! Do you travel with one spare? I always have two on board. That being said: next trip gonna take along a tube, more tools, and cement.

geoffff - 4-10-2020 at 10:09 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Marc  
I am impressed! Do you travel with one spare? I always have two on board. That being said: next trip gonna take along a tube, more tools, and cement.


Yeah, just one spare. A second spare would take up a lot of space in my van, unless I also mount it outside on the back. A friend recommended I bring a 2nd spare tire without a 2nd spare wheel - I could then fill that tire with tools and things. But still it's a heavy awkward item to move around. I'll probably stick with one spare, especially now that I have my new repair skills :)

-- Geoff

David K - 4-10-2020 at 10:50 AM

There's always the roof!

4x4abc - 4-10-2020 at 11:10 AM

2 spares means you have no clue why you have flat tires. Once you ask yourself - "why on earth do I have so many flat tires?", you might find answers that save you from carrying 2 spares and a repair shop with you. If "That's the way it is." is your answer, you should never leave pavement

geoffff - 4-10-2020 at 01:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
2 spares means you have no clue why you have flat tires. Once you ask yourself - "why on earth do I have so many flat tires?", you might find answers that save you from carrying 2 spares and a repair shop with you. If "That's the way it is." is your answer, you should never leave pavement


Hah! Well, I am slowly learning... And trying not to make the same mistake twice.

I have learned that tires are not impervious to cactus.
I have learned that cornering hard in washes when aired way down isn't a good idea.
I have learned that being sloppy about driving where I cannot see (into the bushes) can lead to blowing two tires at once on the same rock.

Mostly it's about learning I'm not invincible out there - even when I'm tired and impatient at the end of the day.

-- Geoff


Mulege Canuck - 4-10-2020 at 03:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by geoffff  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
2 spares means you have no clue why you have flat tires. Once you ask yourself - "why on earth do I have so many flat tires?", you might find answers that save you from carrying 2 spares and a repair shop with you. If "That's the way it is." is your answer, you should never leave pavement


Hah! Well, I am slowly learning... And trying not to make the same mistake twice.

I have learned that tires are not impervious to cactus.


I have learned that cornering hard in washes when aired way down isn't a good idea.
I have learned that being sloppy about driving where I cannot see (into the bushes) can lead to blowing two tires at once on the same rock.

Mostly it's about learning I'm not invincible out there - even when I'm tired and impatient at the end of the day.

-- Geoff



Everybody makes a mistake (except Harold) when your driving in the bush. No big deal. That is how we all get better and push the envelope a little more next time out.

I am pretty sure Harold would sheet his pants meeting a loaded logging truck on a 28% grade north of the 49 th 😎

TMW - 4-10-2020 at 04:33 PM

Great job Geoff. I carry two spares with me and I also carry a tube that fits the tire. I figure I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

David K - 4-10-2020 at 05:06 PM

I have gotten my share of flats with my Tacomas... Originally, it was my refusal to air down on dirt roads (I only aired down for sand). Once I dropped from 30-ish to 20 psi, the sharp rocks on Baja's graded roads stopped piercing the rubber... as easily.

I also (more-often) run less expensive tires (Hankook DynaPros, Destiny Dakotas). So, many here will say you have to spend $200+/ tire... to get that beefy name-brand (BFG usually)!

I did run Cooper Discoverer AT and Toyo Open Country AT on my second Tacoma, both were fine... I never had luck with BFG.
The one set of expensive 3-ply sidewall tires I ran were Cooper Discoverer STT... They were LOUD on the highway and terrible in the sand ("Gravediggers" my wife called them). They got the most looks as an aggressive mud-terrain tire and no flats... but I couldn't wait to replace them after a while.

I have run Hankook DynaPro ATM on two separate occasions. All my Baja Bound trips were on them 2016-2018. They are my favorite tire, so far... Quiet on the highway, terrific in sand, great in mud and snow, and they are wearing nicely...

[Edited on 4-11-2020 by David K]

TMW - 4-11-2020 at 03:28 AM

They better be DK cause I'm holding you to it. As soon as the Michelin street tires on my SUV wear out I'm putting Hankook DynaPro ATM on it. I already have a 2nd spare with it on, just waiting. The problem is the Michelins don't want to wear out.

David K - 4-11-2020 at 07:06 AM

What did you get (SUV)? I think I only know your Tacoma and GMC truck, yes? Maybe I recall you got a 4Runner???

There are two levels of Hankook DynaPro ATM, P-metric and LT. I have the cheaper P-metrics.

I run 265/75-16 (32") which is 1" taller than stock for my Tacoma (265/70-16). There is no rub, I get 1/2" more ground clearance, and the speedometer reads accurately! However, the odometer is 4% slow so I need to do math when I make my road logs... But, on dirt roads, lowering the pressure corrects the odometer, glory be!





[Edited on 8-21-2022 by David K]

David K - 4-11-2020 at 07:15 AM

Here is the Definity Dakota (made by Cooper for Pep Boys):





Bedman recommended them... I ran them on two occasions, very cheap, quiet running, good in sand where I do most of my four-wheeling... BUT they do NOT last long at all... 25,000 miles before the tread wasn't strong enough to resist flats.

RFClark - 4-11-2020 at 02:32 PM

Mexico is where I learned how to remount tubeless tires con gasolina (verde) about a table spoon for a standard pickup tire! Also to do a single pass with PVC pipe cement on the seal area of the rim prior to mounting. I’ve run Yokohama Tires in Mexico with good results for a long time.