BajaNomad - Took the dog to the lake for a few days

I suppose this was essential travel? Have you seen that there is a stay-at-home order and community cooperation is required for the public good?
Or rules and public health requests are just inconviences to be ignored in your selfishness?

My brother owns a business in Ohio that is critical infrastructure. He has two letters from DHS. 1) giving the right to travel no matter what local govt. curfew laws are in place and 2) the right to buy gas no matter what happens.

He gave me copies of the letters and sent me his company uniform.

Do you have such letters? Have fun hanging out in your condo.

Yesterday:

mtgoat666 - 4-7-2020 at 08:51 PM

So you got a letter allowing you to be an @sshat? :lol:

Like I said. Selfish dolts.

bajabuddha - 4-7-2020 at 10:00 PM

So Jizzy is an attorney. Reminds me of why they all wear ties.... keeps their foreskin from coming back over their heads.

pacificobob - 4-8-2020 at 07:49 AM

Its one thing to choose to be socially irresponsible... another to publish the actions on the WWW.
Reminds me of young thugs posing for photos on facebook with big stacks of cash after they stuckup the 7-11.
I am curious as to why you feel that your entertainment and convenience is greater than the needs of the society you are part of.

4x4abc - 4-8-2020 at 08:46 AM

the ability to go places is the new wealth
who would have thought
happy for you JZ!

John Harper - 4-8-2020 at 08:51 AM

So Jizzy is an attorney.

No, he said he went to law school. He has not said he passed the CA bar exam. He did stay at a nice hotel in Lake Las Vegas, maybe even a Holiday Inn.

But, judging by his clear lack of ethics (disregarding rules, fake documents, and fake identity/uniform) he probably should be an attorney, or even perhaps our President.

John

[Edited on 4-8-2020 by John Harper]

A-OK JZ

MrBillM - 4-8-2020 at 09:29 AM

Nice photo. Nice view. Great Dog. Good for JZ.

Be responsible (in your own defense) and maintain distancing, but go wherever you please for as long as possible.

Works for me. Having made (4) RTs (since the "shutdown") up to our travel trailer in the mountains and intending to make more so long as I'm not stopped once the weather clears, I've not come within 50 feet of another person at any time. Excepting the guard at the gate separated by his glass door and my pickup window.

And, although the traffic on I-10 during that 50 miles each way other than commercial trucking is lighter, I have seen hundreds of cars, pickups and even RVs going in both directions.

The problem is NOT the travel. The problem is with those social gatherings.

Being considered (as one former neighbor in Baja noted) "the most antisocial SOB around" and similarly described (in varying degrees) since childhood, social distancing is not a new concept. It is now simply a matter of degree. Actually, it's turned out to be a great excuse for what used to be considered my rude behavior.

John Harper - 4-8-2020 at 09:42 AM

Being considered (as one former neighbor in Baja noted) "the most antisocial SOB around" and similarly described (in varying degrees) since childhood, social distancing is not a new concept. It is now simply a matter of degree. Actually, it's turned out to be a great excuse for what used to be considered my rude behavior.

"Loner" or "lone wolf" was a more polite description for me. I understand completely. Today I realize why my childhood heroes were Jim Bridger and Jedediah Smith.

John

LancairDriver - 4-8-2020 at 09:44 AM

It doesn’t look like the dog or the lady with the bike in the pictures were anywhere near another person, and were within the parameters suggested. Most would be more exposed out on your beer runs.

motoged - 4-8-2020 at 10:00 AM

JZ wrote " Finished top 10% at Loyola Law School. Have an undergrad in electrical engineering, so I focused mainly on intellectual property and contracts law.

Decided not to practice. I like jobs that involve international travel too much."

Practicing law requires some sense of ethical obligations.

motoged - 4-8-2020 at 10:13 AM

:lol:

Geez.... some strange ol' dogs on this forum....

Now THAT'S one hand-sum Dog there !!!

If'n I was another Male Dog I'd be ALL up in that Sweet tail !!!

Sniffin' away and such

It is often said ..................

MrBillM - 4-8-2020 at 10:16 AM

............ That "Legal Ethics" is an Oxymoron.

It is, without doubt, a concept of great flexibility as practiced by a significant percentage of its membership.

With many incarcerated and far more deserving to be.

JZ - 4-8-2020 at 11:01 AM

Who loved the moon last night?

BajaBlanca - 4-8-2020 at 12:19 PM

It was an INCREDIBLE moon! Great shot.

Lake and dog! Great shot.

JZ - 4-9-2020 at 07:02 PM

Found some deep woods in Northern Arizona to explore today.

bajabuddha - 4-9-2020 at 07:16 PM

nice to see you doing your civic duty, jizzy.

mtgoat666 - 4-9-2020 at 07:25 PM

Jizz,
Go home and be the man your dog thinks you are.

bajabuddha - 4-9-2020 at 08:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho

nice to see you doing your civic duty, jizzy.

I don't get your comment, which I assume is sarcasm; is there something wrong with this, assuming he stays away from other people? :?:

YES, there's something desperately wrong with this egotisical azzhole going out and 'doing his thing'.

We're told by our gov't to STAY THE flock HOME RIGHT NOW, it's called Civic Duty. Like the bimbo sunbathing in a park, then everyone thinks they can 'do their own thing' which idiot Jizzy abides by. Ergo, everyone is a free-for-all.... liddle Jizzy is flexing his testicular enlargement capabilities. HE is the problem of containment right now, PERIOD.

What part of ''stay home'' do you not understand?????? Is it the BIG S OR THE LITTLE H CONFUSES YOU ALL?

I'm in one of the few counties in the land that's still virus-free, and we're ALL ABIDING the mandates of our SCIENTISTS. Jizzy claims to be an educated intelligent American, but his actions don't abide his statements.

Somebody please argue my points.

mtgoat666 - 4-9-2020 at 08:55 PM

Jizz is a short guy, his selfishness is wrapped up in his short-man-complex :?:

I wish we had our resident psychologist here to analyze jizz, but the expert was banned for uncouth behaviour

JZ - 4-9-2020 at 09:38 PM

Dog and I are gonna show up at your house tomorrow and give you a big Covid kiss.

bajabuddha - 4-9-2020 at 09:53 PM

OK, Jizzy, i'll wear a condom.

[Edited on 4-10-2020 by bajabuddha]

bajabuddha - 4-9-2020 at 10:15 PM

On second thought.... is penicillin OTC in the States, or do I have to risk a border run to protect me???? :biggrin:

mtgoat666 - 4-9-2020 at 10:27 PM

That’s a really ugly dog. What’s wrong with it?

paranewbi - 4-10-2020 at 05:04 AM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho

nice to see you doing your civic duty, jizzy.

I don't get your comment, which I assume is sarcasm; is there something wrong with this, assuming he stays away from other people? :?:

The above scares me way more than any virus.
And I think letting SCIENTISTS mandate how I take responsibility for myself is worse than letting the government do that. And by the way that's what our forefathers thought also.

Right now we're seeing a big debate starting about how SCIENTIST are covering their butts over wrong modeling...oh yea, they saved us. And ruined our liberties.

Doug/Vamonos - 4-10-2020 at 07:12 AM

Hi. I haven't followed your posts so maybe you mentioned it before? Is your dog an Akita?

bajaric - 4-10-2020 at 09:47 AM

JZ, the man, the myth, the maverick. He does not follow the rules. He will not allow a petty "stay at home" order to derail his heroic quest to stay in a hotel outside Las Vegas with the dog!

LancairDriver - 4-10-2020 at 10:13 AM

The barely mobile individuals are understandably upset with those who venture out independently and use their own judgement as to risk to themselves or others contrary to their government masters and science hero’s who they follow like sheep. Sweden, a socialist country, of all things, hasn’t imposed any restrictions on their citizens other than to use common sense and reportedly have very low infection numbers. The numbers of individuals who could measure up to the level of our nations founders has dramatically decreased over time.

Don't Roam - Stay Home ?

MrBillM - 4-10-2020 at 10:47 AM

Because THEY say so ?

Yeah, right. This is simply another example of reducing the problem to the lowest common denominator of control. Long before this, we have lived our lives constrained by laws/regulations written to control Morons. In this case, those Morons are the ones who can't control their impulses to congregate, especially those who allow their excessive young reproductive results to mingle without regard for the inherent danger to others.

Those of us who continue to Responsibly move about with care and discretion avoiding ANY unnecessary social proximity are expected to pay a symbolic price and attract mindless vilification should we violate the Herd rule.

So be it. I'm willing to cooperate with whatever distancing and personal protective measures instituted (including masking), BUT I'll continue to move about as I see fit. Equipped and prepared to defend those isolated travels against objections.

It's going to take roadblocks and checkpoints to alter that.

pacificobob - 4-10-2020 at 12:14 PM

scientists! they are the WORST!
I feel things like medicine, the space program and such would be miles ahead without them!
remember your ignorance is every bit as valid as their knowledge!

Excuse the Hackneyed Phrase BUT ..................

MrBillM - 4-10-2020 at 01:12 PM

It's NOT Rocket Science !

And, it's not about deferring to science. It's about striking a balance between safety, freedom and control. This constant drumbeat for blanket immobility is simply authority taking the most easily-applied method of control.

Long before there was scientific knowledge of Bacteria or Viruses and the scientific/medical "Experts" were utilizing Leeches and therapeutic Bleeding, the concept of Isolation was the only commonplace (effective) disease-control methodology.

[Edited on 4-10-2020 by MrBillM]

Lee - 4-10-2020 at 03:06 PM

Since I don't trust the government, and take all medical advice seriously, before making an executive decision about how it applies to my life, BillM nails it. It's possible the US can't have a scenario similar to Sweden (too bad), but that's not my problem.

JZ has the right idea. Get out of Dodge.

Some heavy handed judgment and opinions here. Don't mean a thing to me.

TMW - 4-10-2020 at 04:04 PM

Way to go JZ. Great looking dog. Have fun.

Dog and I are gonna show up at your house tomorrow and give you a big Covid kiss.

BajaTed - 4-10-2020 at 04:05 PM

"On the backs of others, I will rise"; Adam Smith
My primary residence is in SoCal, my corporation, work office & second home is in AZ, all vehicles registered in AZ, FMN & work permit for Sun Turbine in Otay Mesa. Bajamar is my third home. Constant circle for last ten years.
Been ratted out to CHP for AZ car registration, but got vetted by Blythe CHP office to be free to travel as desired. $20 CA DMV permit
Lots of the Blythe prison employees work in CA and reside in AZ.

Awaiting judgement day by my Aryan forefathers in Valhalla

Feathers - 4-10-2020 at 07:09 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajaric

JZ, the man, the myth, the maverick. He does not follow the rules. He will not allow a petty "stay at home" order to derail his heroic quest to stay in a hotel outside Las Vegas with the dog!

It's JZ's 'method' I find distasteful. Openly bragging about fake papers...fake uniform, etc. (Who does that?)

Talk about arrogance. Almost like he's thumbing his nose at the rest of us.

Just my impression.

[Edited on 4-11-2020 by Feathers]

mtgoat666 - 4-10-2020 at 07:17 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Feathers

Quote: Originally posted by bajaric

JZ, the man, the myth, the maverick. He does not follow the rules. He will not allow a petty "stay at home" order to derail his heroic quest to stay in a hotel outside Las Vegas with the dog!

It's JZ's 'method' I find distasteful. Fake papers...fake uniform, etc.

Talk about arrogance. Almost like he's thumbing his nose at the rest of us.

Just my impression.

He’s a mix of selfish privilege and short-man-chip-on-his-shoulder,... you just have to tolerate such @sshats, they are found everywhere.

mtgoat666 - 4-10-2020 at 08:59 PM

19,000 dead in USA as of today...
Don’t let the dead and sick get in the way of a good time!

JZ - 4-10-2020 at 09:03 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Feathers

Lol, I was f'ing with the board's troll.

The letters are actually real. I'll post part of one tomorrow. I did make up the bit about the uniform.

My biz is considered an essential service for the US govt. and I've made letters on the company's letter head for all my employees who need to travel to our SoCal office.

My brother's 2 letters are next level though, from DHS

Lee - 4-10-2020 at 09:03 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Feathers

Quote: Originally posted by bajaric

JZ, the man, the myth, the maverick. He does not follow the rules. He will not allow a petty "stay at home" order to derail his heroic quest to stay in a hotel outside Las Vegas with the dog!

Method? Distasteful? Just my opinion. You a snowflake?

Thumbing his nose at the rest of us? You've got to be kidding.

JZ is having fun. His kids are having a blast. Posts videos, writes interesting stories, and gets to Baja often. Posts great photos of his dog!

What do you contribute about Baja? Like Tom, rag on people that don't fit your idea of NOB ethics or morals. Grow up.

JZ - 4-10-2020 at 09:14 PM

19,000 dead in USA as of today...
Don’t let the dead and sick get in the way of a good time!

500 in California buddy. Out of 40M.

I know you are on your knees beside your bed every night praying that the numbers will go higher, so you can tell us all how smart you are.

What weird thing has to happen to someone to root for Americans to die, and the American way to end? Disgusting.

[Edited on 4-11-2020 by JZ]

Paco Facullo - 4-10-2020 at 09:15 PM

Plus one for Lee..... and JZ

Ya might as well get the MOST ya can out of life !

As long as you aren't jeopardizing yourself or others ...

bajatrailrider - 4-10-2020 at 09:41 PM

19,000 dead in USA as of today...
Don’t let the dead and sick get in the way of a good time!
[/rquote b. are you just a Baja blow hard or village idiot . Himmm no both who are you to talk about any body? Stay put slime ball thank you for staying in your shack. Ohh I forgot that's the only thing you can do anyway . :bounce:

More thanks to the feds in Mexico to keep you out.

bajabuddha - 4-10-2020 at 09:44 PM

Plus one for Lee..... and JZ

Ya might as well get the MOST ya can out of life !

As long as you aren't jeopardizing yourself or others ...

UNTIL YOU ARE, AZZHOLES.

Paco Facullo - 4-10-2020 at 11:30 PM

Hey, I'm hunkering down at home and NOT going anywhere that I don't have to..

But , I do so love a rebel....

Fixing the quote...

David K - 4-11-2020 at 07:20 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider

19,000 dead in USA as of today...
Don’t let the dead and sick get in the way of a good time!

b. are you just a Baja blow hard or village idiot . Himmm no both who are you to talk about any body? Stay put slime ball thank you for staying in your shack. Ohh I forgot that's the only thing you can do anyway . :bounce:

More thanks to the feds in Mexico to keep you out.

JZ - 4-11-2020 at 07:34 AM

It's getting ridiculous in Michigan.

https://www.wxyz.com/news/coronavirus/no-traveling-between-r...

paranewbi - 4-11-2020 at 07:35 AM

19,000 dead in USA as of today...
Don’t let the dead and sick get in the way of a good time!

And that's without any roadblocks, Communities refusing entry, hundreds of people lined up at Costco, Vons, Walmart, (AKA crowd gatherings), and free food lines in large venues for those who are suffering from Economic depression.

bajatrailrider - 4-11-2020 at 08:31 AM

Two days ago south of San Vicente fed check point with medic . Checking people if sick also if not living south. Sent back North as reported by nextdoor pastor . With closed church there they asked why go. It's closed anyway. . So far all open in my small City restaurants motels . T paper surgical gloves masks antibacterial soap . All markets full no patrol on beach as nobody there anyway except on us holidays. Two weeks ago two police trucks with two ambulances red lights on. Loud speaker ordered all people stay in house. Enforcement zero when it hits here maybe then enforcement people are using mask and gloves.

motoged - 4-11-2020 at 09:27 AM

Hey, I'm hunkering down at home and NOT going anywhere that I don't have to..

But , I do so love a rebel....

Rebels sometimes have a cause.....yahoos just blather on ,,, :light:

David K - 4-11-2020 at 09:36 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider

Two days ago south of San Vicente fed check point with medic . Checking people if sick also if not living south. Sent back North as reported by nextdoor pastor . With closed church there they asked why go. It's closed anyway. . So far all open in my small City restaurants motels . T paper surgical gloves masks antibacterial soap . All markets full no patrol on beach as nobody there anyway except on us holidays. Two weeks ago two police trucks with two ambulances red lights on. Loud speaker ordered all people stay in house. Enforcement zero when it hits here maybe then enforcement people are using mask and gloves.

Thanks Larry for the news from San Vicente!

Today's San Diego Union reported Tijuana Hospital maxed out with Coronavirus patients... I thought Baja was claiming to be almost free of it? Maybe fake news?

‘A war zone’: Tijuana hospitals overwhelmed by coronavirus patients

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-califo...

On the Road Again

MrBillM - 4-11-2020 at 09:59 AM

FINALLY. Some blue skies as the clouds and rain blow away for a day. Hopefully more. Much more.

Time for my "essential" 100 mile (RT) drive to check on the trailer, feed the critters and commune with nature while avoiding the people.

In doing so and assuming that the campground is still open, I have little doubt that I'll find (as I did last week) lots of people at the campground (with God on their side ?) practicing "social gathering" rather than "distancing". Especially, those dozens of kids grouping together. But, as long as they remain isolated from ME, mi esposa y mi chihuahua ........... that's life.

Speaking of essential services, I'm in a quandary over Haircuts. Wondering earlier in the week whether my usual barber was open for business, I drove by and saw that he was. "Great", I thought, but then .............. having been in there more than a couple of times when there were those suffering from colds and flus (including the barber at least once) ........... is it WORTH the risk ? So far NO !

I did go by Walmart and purchase a clipper/shaver, but it's obvious that I wouldn't be able to handle the entire surface (especially the back) and mi esposa is thoroughly unenthusiastic about trying to play barber.

Decisions, decisions.

John Harper - 4-11-2020 at 10:18 AM

Speaking of essential services, I'm in a quandary over Haircuts. Wondering earlier in the week whether my usual barber was open for business, I drove by and saw that he was. "Great", I thought, but then .............. having been in there more than a couple of times when there were those suffering from colds and flus (including the barber at least once) ........... is it WORTH the risk ? So far NO !

I did go by Walmart and purchase a clipper/shaver, but it's obvious that I wouldn't be able to handle the entire surface (especially the back) and mi esposa is thoroughly unenthusiastic about trying to play barber.

Decisions, decisions.

I'll cut your hair for a 12 pack of St. Pauli Girls.

John

JZ - 4-11-2020 at 10:33 AM

Wife and I use the same girl to cut our hair. Persian girl with huge knockers.

I'm going to have her do a house call next week.

Paco Facullo - 4-11-2020 at 10:45 AM

Hey, I'm hunkering down at home and NOT going anywhere that I don't have to..

But , I do so love a rebel....

Rebels sometimes have a cause.....yahoos just blather on ,,, :light:

90% of talk is just that "blather"

Changing bait?

AKgringo - 4-11-2020 at 10:46 AM

Good idea, the bite was falling off on the dog pictures. Will there be pictures of the haircut? :rolleyes:

motoged - 4-11-2020 at 10:48 AM

Wife and I use the same girl to cut our hair. Persian girl with huge knockers.

I'm going to have her do a house call next week.

Can't teach a pig to sing .... but this one knows how to troll.

Don Pisto - 4-11-2020 at 10:48 AM

Wife and I use the same girl to cut our hair. Persian girl with huge knockers.

I'm going to have her do a house call next week.

who couldn't use a little "trim"!

LancairDriver - 4-11-2020 at 11:28 AM

Wife and I use the same girl to cut our hair. Persian girl with huge knockers.

I'm going to have her do a house call next week.

Can't teach a pig to sing .... but this one knows how to troll.

It’s hard to tell who irritates GED more, JZ or DK. But it’s still entertaining either way. :bounce:

LancairDriver - 4-11-2020 at 11:33 AM

Wife and I use the same girl to cut our hair. Persian girl with huge knockers.

I'm going to have her do a house call next week.

Pictures please. It’s getting boring sheltering in place.

motoged - 4-11-2020 at 11:50 AM

Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver

It’s hard to tell who irritates GED more, JZ or DK. But it’s still entertaining either way. :bounce:

You got that right..... two dolts with different amperages :biggrin:

Dealing with arrogance requires different skills than dealing with a dough head..... One is intentionally aggravating....the other is just doesn't know better.

Oh well...... :rolleyes:

Paco Facullo - 4-11-2020 at 11:54 AM

It's a Dang Nomad Soap-opera, I'll tell ya ..........

AKgringo - 4-11-2020 at 12:21 PM

Well I have played enough for right now. Unless there are objections, I am going to leave my house, social distance myself in the middle of my forty acres, and cut some trees down.

Only back roads will be used, and no stores or gas stations will be visited. My dog will love me again when she can run loose!

bajabuddha - 4-11-2020 at 04:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver

It’s hard to tell who irritates GED more, JZ or DK. But it’s still entertaining either way. :bounce:

You got that right..... two dolts with different amperages :biggrin:

Dealing with arrogance requires different skills than dealing with a dough head..... One is intentionally aggravating....the other is just doesn't know better.

Oh well...... :rolleyes:

STELLAR QUOTE, Ged. I nominate this one "quote of the month". :smug:

And ANOTHER Thing ............ Speeding Along

MrBillM - 4-11-2020 at 05:11 PM

Since the "Stay at Home" advisories have (sort of) taken effect and reduced highway congestion, it has seemed (again today both directions on I-10) that there were a LOT more drivers going WAY over the limit.

Having mused over whether that "apparent" increase in numbers was accurate, the answer came from reading a news item today in the Riverside Press-Enterprise.

While overall (statewide) speeding citations were DOWN 18 percent this March versus March 2019, citations written for exceeding 100 MPH were up by 42 percent.

Zoom. Zoom.

mtgoat666 - 4-11-2020 at 05:46 PM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo

Good idea, the bite was falling off on the dog pictures. Will there be pictures of the haircut? :rolleyes:

Jizz gets his hair cut by the dog groomer, the old lady with mustache and saggy big boobs. Cheap, cheap!

bajatrailrider - 4-11-2020 at 06:42 PM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo

Good idea, the bite was falling off on the dog pictures. Will there be pictures of the haircut? :rolleyes:

Jizz gets his hair cut by the dog groomer, the old lady with mustache and saggy big boobs. Cheap, cheap!

n. Better then fat arm chair captain that loves hogs . :bounce:

JZ - 4-11-2020 at 06:52 PM

Sadly we had to start heading back from Arizona to LA today. Wife said we had to be back by Easter.

We did get in some mild off roading.

[Edited on 4-12-2020 by BajaNomad]

JZ - 4-11-2020 at 06:59 PM

Since the "Stay at Home" advisories have (sort of) taken effect and reduced highway congestion, it has seemed (again today both directions on I-10) that there were a LOT more drivers going WAY over the limit.

Having mused over whether that "apparent" increase in numbers was accurate, the answer came from reading a news item today in the Riverside Press-Enterprise.

While overall (statewide) speeding citations were DOWN 18 percent this March versus March 2019, citations written for exceeding 100 MPH were up by 42 percent.

Zoom. Zoom.

We were on the 10 today. Set the cruise on 90. Got passed a few times.

pacificobob - 4-12-2020 at 05:58 AM

Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver

It’s hard to tell who irritates GED more, JZ or DK. But it’s still entertaining either way. :bounce:

You got that right..... two dolts with different amperages :biggrin:

Dealing with arrogance requires different skills than dealing with a dough head..... One is intentionally aggravating....the other is just doesn't know better.

Oh well...... :rolleyes:

STELLAR QUOTE, Ged. I nominate this one "quote of the month". :smug:

BINGO...X3

DawnPatrol - 4-12-2020 at 06:40 AM

Sadly we had to start heading back from Arizona to LA today. Wife said we had to be back by Easter.

We did get in some mild off roading.

Love the Orange get-me-out-of-the-hole Trax. wouldn't go anywhere without mine. Carry on.....

[Edited on 4-12-2020 by DawnPatrol]

[Edited on 4-12-2020 by BajaNomad]

paranewbi - 4-12-2020 at 07:01 AM

Sunshine and a state where you can go out and shoot a few rounds off pretty much as you please. To bad you have to leave.

Welcome back to Cali JZ.

Some hope here to...went for a drive to Del Mar yesterday and pulling up to the intersection of Del Mar Heights and 101 (6th street reef in view for us surfers), the intersection was full of people biking. Adults, kids on bikes, people waiting to cross on foot towards the beach, runners jogging in place. I couldn't believe my eyes as I had not been out in a while. Most all of them in mid year range and not one with a mask on. Looked pretty much like locals who could afford to live in DM and most who can are educated to that state of wealth, out on a weekend day.

Gave me a good feeling that there might be actually some lefty's who stand with me when it comes to taking back our liberties...at least the ones who aren't crowding out the gun stores and ranges right now. There's a shift coming and it's in Cali.

[Edited on 4-12-2020 by paranewbi]

Signs of Normalcy Returning ?

MrBillM - 4-12-2020 at 10:11 AM

At the supermarket:

SPAM (the original) is back on the shelf at (more or less) normal levels.

Another positive sign may be that, although there is a continued absence of quality ALL-BEEF franks other than the more expensive Hebrew National, the Deli case has enough cheap "turkey- chicken- whatever" varieties to feed a Marine division.

Hopefully, an indication that good taste is overcoming desperation.

Toilet Paper was still non-existent, though. I was told that the TP (even with a limit of one/two) continues to disappear in the early a.m. soon after stocking. It's regular presence on the shelves will (apparently) be the LAST sign of abated fear.

Who'd have thunk that grocery trips would be one of the more interesting daily activities ?

AKgringo - 4-12-2020 at 10:21 AM

The local sewer utilities are begging the public to stop flushing anything but TP down the lines!
They are becoming overwhelmed unclogging drain lines and treatment plants.

[Edited on 4-12-2020 by AKgringo]

AKgringo - 4-12-2020 at 10:32 AM

You would have to risk a trip to the store for corn!
Most people already have paper towels, napkins, and so called "flushable wipes", which are some of the main problem items.

[Edited on 4-12-2020 by AKgringo]

John Harper - 4-12-2020 at 10:41 AM

Quote: Originally posted by paranewbi

Gave me a good feeling that there might be actually some lefty's who stand with me when it comes to taking back our liberties...at least the ones who aren't crowding out the gun stores and ranges right now.

As a life long gun owner and collector, I'm not sure what liberties you think I want to take back (or how a gun helps).

I'm actually very concerned about these panic purchases by first time gun owners. Was at a gun store last week, most everyone I talked to was a first timer buying a semi-automatic handgun. I personally can't think of a worse class of firearm to choose if you've never owned a gun. Can't wait to read about a spate of "accidental" discharges and gun cleaning "accidents" leading to innocent deaths. Watch yourself if you know one of these people, they could easily kill you.

OTOH, I just sold two guns that were on consignment (.30 M1 Carbine and a .30-06 Remington 700BDL), and am looking to get a nice .357 revolver for backcountry/travel carry. My .44 Magnum (6" Model 29 S&W) is just too bulky to carry around in the bush. I'm going to hold off until the panic subsides and I can get a better deal.

Don't forget the bullet left in the chamber, that's the one that gets you.

John

[Edited on 4-12-2020 by John Harper]

JZ - 4-12-2020 at 10:58 AM

At the supermarket:

SPAM (the original) is back on the shelf at (more or less) normal levels.

Another positive sign may be that, although there is a continued absence of quality ALL-BEEF franks other than the more expensive Hebrew National, the Deli case has enough cheap "turkey- chicken- whatever" varieties to feed a Marine division.

Hopefully, an indication that good taste is overcoming desperation.

Toilet Paper was still non-existent, though. I was told that the TP (even with a limit of one/two) continues to disappear in the early a.m. soon after stocking. It's regular presence on the shelves will (apparently) be the LAST sign of abated fear.

Who'd have thunk that grocery trips would be one of the more interesting daily activities ?

Last week the wife was able to get rice for her rice cooker for the first time in a month.

Gun-Buying Panic in Californy requires Patience

MrBillM - 4-12-2020 at 11:37 AM

Given that it still takes 10-days to actually acquire the firearm.

As to that "non-familiarity" concern, it is required that one demonstrates a fundamental level of familiarity with the particular firearm before it's released to the purchaser.

OK, so THAT (as applied by the vendor) is something of a perfunctory joke, BUT it's still hard to imagine the level of carelessness and 'cluelessness' that results in someone shooting themselves or someone else unintentionally. I've never been able to picture the sequence in which a "cleaning" results in a shooting. Obviously, it's a LOT different than any cleaning that I've ever done.

Speaking of handguns, this CV-19 business has probably ended my prospects of acquiring the one last semi-auto that I'd been looking forward to.

Ruger LCP. No longer available in California. I had arranged to receive one early this summer from back east. That's almost certainly off.

Bummer.

John Harper - 4-12-2020 at 12:27 PM

BUT it's still hard to imagine the level of carelessness and 'cluelessness' that results in someone shooting themselves or someone else unintentionally. I've never been able to picture the sequence in which a "cleaning" results in a shooting. Obviously, it's a LOT different than any cleaning that I've ever done.

The sad thing is over the years, I've read of more cops killing themselves "cleaning" their weapon, or discharging it "accidentally." Unless it's suicide being covered up?

Even experts make mistakes, it only takes one time. My dad almost made a fatal mistake one day out hunting, and I never, ever let him forget it. Ever.

Even though I have a Colt .45 Auto, I'd prefer to use a revolver for home defense and outdoors activity. Simple, safe, and foolproof. Currently my Colt Detective Special .38 fills that home/personal defense role. Just want a little more horsepower for bear country and/or hunting.

John

[Edited on 4-12-2020 by John Harper]

JZ - 4-12-2020 at 02:40 PM

Never been a gun guy. Always in a group when offloading.

But yesterday I was out in the middle of no where by myself. A car went by. Kinda spooked me and might be changing my tune on having a gun.

TMW - 4-12-2020 at 02:57 PM

I've had guns, shotguns and rifles, that I keep for other people but I've never owned a gun. I've hunted with a shotgun when I was young and I've shot other peoples hand guns including a 44 magnum. That gun destroyed all I thought about cowboy movies and TV shows or anywhere that bullets are bouncing off walls and wood fences. If you are shot at with that gun you are not safe behind anything except maybe a ten foot thick concrete wall.

I lined up two concrete blocks end to end with cans in holes and the bullet went thru it all.

John Harper - 4-12-2020 at 03:02 PM

Never been a gun guy. Always in a group when offloading.

But yesterday I was out in the middle of no where by myself. A car went by. Kinda spooked me and might be changing my tune on having a gun.

Look at a Taurus, Ruger, or Smith and Wesson .357 Magnum. You can shoot .38 Special in them too, more economical practice rounds.

Revolvers are safest and foolproof, no racking the slide or worrying about the safety being on at the wrong time when you are threatened. Just pull the trigger and BOOM.

I'm looking at a Taurus Model 66 with 4" barrel. I don't like the looks of the Ruger, and a Smith is too nice (and expensive) for backcountry abuse. Taurus seems to have quite good reviews, probably $500 OTD.

John

John Harper - 4-12-2020 at 03:06 PM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW

I've had guns, shotguns and rifles, that I keep for other people but I've never owned a gun. I've hunted with a shotgun when I was young and I've shot other peoples hand guns including a 44 magnum. That gun destroyed all I thought about cowboy movies and TV shows or anywhere that bullets are bouncing off walls and wood fences. If you are shot at with that gun you are not safe behind anything except maybe a ten foot thick concrete wall.

I lined up two concrete blocks end to end with cans in holes and the bullet went thru it all.

Yes, that's what I love best about my .44 Magnum. It's magic. Few people really appreciate them. Literally, a hand cannon.

John

Lee - 4-12-2020 at 03:49 PM

Appreciate the simplicity of a revolver and carried a Colt 4” as LE. Time moved on and semi-autos just aren’t accident prone. Maybe in the wrong hands.

Knife: SOG Flash ll.
Sidearms: Beretta 92FS or SIG Sauer P226.

Soon moving into a Glock 17.

15 rounds double stack and one in the chamber. When fire superiority is of the essence. Revolvers just can’t compete. There’s a reason LE and military use the arms I have.

John Harper - 4-12-2020 at 04:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Lee

15 rounds double stack and one in the chamber. When fire superiority is of the essence. Revolvers just can’t compete. There’s a reason LE and military use the arms I have.

Yes, and every LE shootout I read about involves tens, or even hundreds of rounds. Few of which hit anything at all. Just trigger happy cops. I'll bet marksmanship was a lot more important when you carried a revolver. And control under fire, not "spray and pray."

I'm talking personal defense, within 7 yards. You certainly don't need 15 rounds. LE and military have different missions than your average Joe confronting a home break in. One or two shots at most.

If the Zombie Apocalypse arrives, I've got a couple AR's with 30 round mags for that. But, it probably won't ever happen.

Of course, this is just my opinion. YMMV. I'm not shooting at anything I don't plan to kill, and that should happen with the first shot.

John

[Edited on 4-13-2020 by John Harper]

Making BIG Holes

MrBillM - 4-12-2020 at 04:10 PM

I've never owned or shot a .44 Special or Magnum. While I have two .357 Magnums, for "on the road" defense, I used to carry a (45ACP) series 70 M1911. No problem in the car or the motel, but problematic to conceal on the body. Next to impossible summertime. The wife bought me an AMT Backup in .45ACP. Smallest at that time in that caliber. DAO with a HEAVY trigger pull. I read at the time it was measured new at 23 lbs. BIG downside is the tendency for a feed jam on anything other than Jacketed-Ball rounds.

I still keep the Colt handy at night (along with a 12-guage Mossberg pump in the bedroom closet), but usually it's one of my .380s or a 9mm traveling. Less stopping power (way less with the .380), but (hopefully) up to the task should it arise.

Thirty+ years ago, I bought the wife a .380 Beretta, but she was never comfortable with the semi-auto. She now has has a 5-shot Rossi .38Spl 4-inch bbl. Lightweight, simple. Whether or not she'd use it ...........Quien Sabe ?

I have my doubts.

chippy - 4-12-2020 at 04:23 PM

Took the dog to the lake. What a stupidly bizarre derailment. You all must be some paranoid mofos.

Paco Facullo - 4-12-2020 at 04:44 PM

Hey, Dogs and guns often go hand in hand together .....

bajabuddha - 4-12-2020 at 05:08 PM

So do dogs and bunz. And gunz and little wieners.

[Edited on 4-13-2020 by bajabuddha]

Took my dog to the lake today...and a 9mm!

AKgringo - 4-12-2020 at 05:19 PM

Actually it was a pond (my pond). My neighbor just bought a Ruger LC9, and wanted to try it out. I have a lot of secluded land with a safe back stop to fire into, so we burned up some ammo!

Pacifico - 4-12-2020 at 06:16 PM

Never been a gun guy. Always in a group when offloading.

But yesterday I was out in the middle of no where by myself. A car went by. Kinda spooked me and might be changing my tune on having a gun.

A gun is a great equalizer and gives peace of mind. It is very comforting having a CCW. Last thing I want to do is shoot someone, but wouldn't hesitate if it came down to my safety or my family's safety. With all the craziness in this world, I have just never wanted to be a sitting duck.

John Harper - 4-12-2020 at 06:35 PM

Quote: Originally posted by chippy

What a stupidly bizarre derailment. You all must be some paranoid mofos.

Well, no one put a gun to your head to read, or comment. But, lots of us could, apparently.

John

LancairDriver - 4-12-2020 at 07:05 PM

So do dogs and bunz. And gunz and little wieners.

[Edited on 4-13-2020 by bajabuddha]

I’ve heard that said before and wonder if that is from first hand experience? 😁

LancairDriver - 4-12-2020 at 09:33 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Pacifico