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New fiber across the Sea of Cortés?

del mar - 5-23-2020 at 02:22 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Paco Facullo  
Personally, I hope it never happens...

There's a certain elated feeling when your in a place that there's NO phone signal nor internet,,,,

Keep Baja as wild as possible for as long as possible !


"SCT undersecretary Edgar Olvera said the new cable has two objectives: provide the certainty of connectivity for the next 25 years and give investors an incentive to do business in the state and provide a greater range of telecommunications services to residents.

The state’s tourism, commercial, industrial, health, government and education sectors will also benefit from the infrastructure project."

yup screw these people, they don't need telecommunications, more important that you tourist's get that adventurist warm off the grid glow.:smug:

Bajazly - 5-23-2020 at 05:03 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Paco Facullo  
Personally, I hope it never happens...

There's a certain elated feeling when your in a place that there's NO phone signal nor internet,,,,

Keep Baja as wild as possible for as long as possible !


X2. Keep those who can never not be touching a phone in the city and away from the wild places.

Elated? By whose standards?

Feathers - 5-23-2020 at 05:23 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Paco Facullo  
Personally, I hope it never happens...

There's a certain elated feeling when your in a place that there's NO phone signal nor internet,,,,

Keep Baja as wild as possible for as long as possible !


Ah, yes... Keep Baja as 'primitive' as your gringo/progressive/non-progressive(?) heart desires. Because it's all about YOU.

Reminds me of the hypocritical gringos lamenting a paved road from Abreojos to La Bocana... worried about a 'Gringo Invasion'... after they already 'moved' here. FOD. Heaven forbid Mexico determine it's own course of progress.

In-A-Nutshell PERFECTION.

Feathers - 5-23-2020 at 05:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by del mar  



yup screw these people, they don't need telecommunications, more important that you tourist's get that adventurist warm off the grid glow.:smug:

SFandH - 5-23-2020 at 06:05 PM

I liked the situation I had for the past 6 months on Bahia Concepcion. I had to drive 15 miles into Mulege to get a good Inet connection and about 10 miles to get a cell signal. Best of both worlds, off the grid, but close to it. It turns out about 1 hour a week on the Internet met my digital needs and when at "home" on the bay I didn't waste any time on the Internet, like I'm doing now.

Digital addictions.

Feathers - 5-23-2020 at 06:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Paco Facullo  
I don't know about all of you but I've traveled to a whole lot of 3rd. world Counties meny of them lot's and lot's of times.

What I have seen is that the people are a lot happier than most Americans.. Just sayin.....

Progress isn't always a good thing....


The most abhorrent, UNWOKE, Ugly-American example of 'Soft Bigotry' I've seen in a very long time.

Here's the deal: YOU DON'T GET TO CHOOSE what's best for Mexico.

Why don't you get that?

[Edited on 5-24-2020 by Feathers]

Feathers - 5-23-2020 at 06:22 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Paco Facullo  

What I have seen is that the people are a lot happier than most Americans.. Just sayin.....

Progress isn't always a good thing....


I want to say I AGREE with this statement. Paco. (I truly do.) But that is our own 'personal observation'. We don't get to decide what's best for Mexico.

I'll leave it as that.

[Edited on 5-24-2020 by Feathers]

Feathers - 5-23-2020 at 06:26 PM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
I liked the situation I had for the past 6 months on Bahia Concepcion. I had to drive 15 miles into Mulege to get a good Inet connection and about 10 miles to get a cell signal. Best of both worlds, off the grid, but close to it. It turns out about 1 hour a week on the Internet met my digital needs and when at "home" on the bay I didn't waste any time on the Internet, like I'm doing now.

Digital addictions.


You are speaking for YOURSELF. You certainly aren't speaking for the Mexican people.

Welcome to the Ugly American Club. You earned the membership. CONGRATS!

[Edited on 5-24-2020 by Feathers]

You opened the door and decide to single ME out?

Feathers - 5-23-2020 at 07:14 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by Feathers  
Welcome to the Ugly American Club. You earned the membership.

I realize it's gratifying find an excuse to hurl insults at each other, but does anybody have information relating to the original question of this thread? :rolleyes:


Google is everybody's friend.:rolleyes:

Feathers - 5-23-2020 at 07:32 PM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Quote: Originally posted by Feathers  
Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
I liked the situation I had for the past 6 months on Bahia Concepcion. I had to drive 15 miles into Mulege to get a good Inet connection and about 10 miles to get a cell signal. Best of both worlds, off the grid, but close to it. It turns out about 1 hour a week on the Internet met my digital needs and when at "home" on the bay I didn't waste any time on the Internet, like I'm doing now.

Digital addictions.


You are speaking for YOURSELF. You certainly aren't speaking for the Mexican people.

Welcome to the Ugly American Club. You earned the membership. CONGRATS!

[Edited on 5-24-2020 by Feathers]



Wow, I don't understand that reaction. The Mexicans in Mulege all have excellent cell and Internet service if they want it. In Loreto too. The spots in between are sparsely populated. The capability for cell and Internet is there, but there's not enough customers for the provider companies to profitably provide the service. Heck, there's not even electricity or running water.

???????

[Edited on 5-24-2020 by SFandH]


Shocked? You just made my case. I lived on the B de C for 2 years via Solar power. Mi amigo had spotty sattelite internet that he shared with us.

Why is it up to you what BCS needs, or not?

[Edited on 5-24-2020 by Feathers]

Feathers - 5-24-2020 at 07:54 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Paco Facullo  
Feathers,

"That's just like, your opinion, man"


OK Dude. ;)

Alm - 5-25-2020 at 10:16 AM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho  

Depending on how fluid things are, this might be a time to advocate for more connectivity for smaller towns like Bahía de los Ángeles.

This cable will bring faster and cheaper inet to La Paz and Cabo where they already have both DSL and wireless. BOLA is 900 km from La Paz, I doubt they will get anything out of this.

RFClark - 5-25-2020 at 10:28 AM

Space X will be selling their LEO internet service next year. It will do voice and data for $60/month as well as be portable. Satellite currently works OK but you can’t do voice on it. Cell service is nonexistent where we are.

SFandH - 5-25-2020 at 12:01 PM

Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
Space X will be selling their LEO internet service next year. It will do voice and data for $60/month as well as be portable. Satellite currently works OK but you can’t do voice on it. Cell service is nonexistent where we are.


https://www.starlink.com/

Changing Times

MrBillM - 5-25-2020 at 12:52 PM

Cell Phones, Sat Phones, WiFi, Fiber Optics ....................

Where/when did you see the first phone in Baja ? Below the border towns ?

Early/mid-70s, I still remember leaving (now long gone) Arnold's in San Felipe one night after dinner and was surprised to encounter a pay phone on the walk. Wow ! Turned out the phone service was local only, still ............

Once service was extended to Mexicali and beyond, we'd go over to Panaderia Linda where they had a table with handsets. You'd give the proprietor the number you wanted to call, she'd point you to a phone, call the operator and start a timer when you picked up. An older couple we knew would instead always go over to the switching office and use one of the two pay phones outside claiming the service was more reliable. Knowing their habits well, I think it was because they were just too cheap to pay the Panaderia rate.



ranpar01 - 6-10-2020 at 08:44 PM

Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
Space X will be selling their LEO internet service next year. It will do voice and data for $60/month as well as be portable. Satellite currently works OK but you can’t do voice on it. Cell service is nonexistent where we are.


Do you know what speeds they will provide? Sounds good, but knowing Musk's history the real release date is probably a couple years beyond what he is projecting. He is usually way overly optimistic about the timeline - but he eventually gets it done no question. Just finished his biography, good read if anyone is interested.

RFClark - 6-10-2020 at 11:50 PM

They (Musk) are talking gigabit speeds ultimately! They say part of the U.S. and Canada this year most everywhere else by the end of next year. Our military is already testing it. The delay will be around 10MS rather than the 800MS with Hughes and Exide the current common choices.

BajaTed - 6-11-2020 at 06:58 AM

Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  
Cell Phones, Sat Phones, WiFi, Fiber Optics ....................

Where/when did you see the first phone in Baja ? Below the border towns ?

Early/mid-70s, I still remember leaving (now long gone) Arnold's in San Felipe one night after dinner and was surprised to encounter a pay phone on the walk. Wow ! Turned out the phone service was local only, still ............

Once service was extended to Mexicali and beyond, we'd go over to Panaderia Linda where they had a table with handsets. You'd give the proprietor the number you wanted to call, she'd point you to a phone, call the operator and start a timer when you picked up. An older couple we knew would instead always go over to the switching office and use one of the two pay phones outside claiming the service was more reliable. Knowing their habits well, I think it was because they were just too cheap to pay the Panaderia rate.




When our family built our Bajamar home in 1978, we had to use marine radio service to communicate from our SoCal home by pretending to be a ship at sea. Others did this too and it was very entertaining to listen to the ship to shore calls around 5:00pm each day. c-cktail hour was a blast back then. One idiot called his GF to hook up and forgot he was on the radio, very entertaining, later on every one ratted him out to his wife.

In 1988 the first Telcel phone line pedestal was installed in Bajamar. We leveraged it to create our own private phone network for the homes along the bluff.
Two, 24 pair cables enclosed in buried irrigation tubing was installed by our family and we sold the phone circuits to 20 homes. Subsequent private efforts eventually served both misions. Fully operational still

David K - 6-11-2020 at 07:34 AM

LOL... and I wish they never paved a road beyond where the black devil ended in 1966! LOL

Things change but it's nice to reminisce about the old Baja we were first entranced by...

55 years have passed since I was introduced to Baja California, much has changed, more roads paved, more people live there, more fences and locked gates, and other 'evils' of civilization like 24-hour electricity and cell service, Internet, etc.

Yet, I still love the place and hope to go back... at least one more time!