BajaNomad

No More Green Angels in BCS

karenintx - 6-18-2020 at 12:59 PM

Say it ain't so...

https://californiahoy.net/2020/06/17/sacaron-de-circulacion-...

tiotomasbcs - 6-18-2020 at 01:46 PM

Huge cuts in gov't spending...I'm sure glad Hwy 5 has been completed and the big Hill outa Santo Tomas Valley and all those pot holes near Catavina et cetera!! Until the next storms come along !!





[Edited on 6-18-2020 by tiotomasbcs]

David K - 6-18-2020 at 04:10 PM

Calling private enterprise... Opportunity is alive!

thebajarunner - 6-18-2020 at 04:33 PM

Ah yes, the Green Angels
Always somehow reassuring to see them parked alongside the road.
Generally parked alone, having a snack or a cool sip

In 49+ years of trekking up and down the Mex 1 I can truthfully say that I can never remember seeing them actually helping someone.

But hey, great to know that they were on the job and ready to assist.

pacificobob - 6-18-2020 at 04:51 PM

I've seen them assisting folks road side countless times.

David K - 6-18-2020 at 05:00 PM

In 1974 at Cataviña:




In 2004, pushing a truck, east of Ensenada:



geraldalexander7 - 6-18-2020 at 05:34 PM

Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner  


In 49+ years of trekking up and down the Mex 1 I can truthfully say that I can never remember seeing them actually helping someone.


3 years back I was driving my 95’ Suburban from La Paz to PTO San Carlos and the fan belt on my truck broke. One of the Angels pushed me with a tire between our bumpers 30 miles to Las Pocitas.....
I was sooo grateful!

Barry A. - 6-18-2020 at 05:39 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Calling private enterprise... Opportunity is alive!

According to that article I linked above, "These [austerity] measures imply that the [federal] government will go into hibernation from now till December."

So how do you think private enterprise can step in here?


In a Democracy, whenever there is a vacuum (no "Green Angels") Private-Enterprise inevitably steps in to fill it-----for a price and profit. Someone will figure it out if feasible.

honda tom - 6-18-2020 at 09:30 PM

had a guy in a bread truck push me 60 plus miles or so one time with a tire between our bumpers..... he was very happy with th 40 dollars i gave him..... i think everyone will be fine

mtgoat666 - 6-18-2020 at 09:37 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Calling private enterprise... Opportunity is alive!

According to that article I linked above, "These [austerity] measures imply that the [federal] government will go into hibernation from now till December."

So how do you think private enterprise can step in here?


In a Democracy, whenever there is a vacuum (no "Green Angels") Private-Enterprise inevitably steps in to fill it-----for a price and profit. Someone will figure it out if feasible.



Bullchit.
If you break down in remote baja, you got 2 options: (1) flag down help from a passing motorist, or a lift to next town, or (2) hang out waiting for private enterprise to fill the vacuum and someone will stop and rob you after sundown.

Doubtful you will find private-enterprise good Samaritans roaming the Baja roads looking for tourists to save for a fee.

paranewbi - 6-19-2020 at 04:13 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Calling private enterprise... Opportunity is alive!

According to that article I linked above, "These [austerity] measures imply that the [federal] government will go into hibernation from now till December."

So how do you think private enterprise can step in here?


In a Democracy, whenever there is a vacuum (no "Green Angels") Private-Enterprise inevitably steps in to fill it-----for a price and profit. Someone will figure it out if feasible.



Bullchit.
If you break down in remote baja, you got 2 options: (1) flag down help from a passing motorist, or a lift to next town, or (2) hang out waiting for private enterprise to fill the vacuum and someone will stop and rob you after sundown.

Doubtful you will find private-enterprise good Samaritans roaming the Baja roads looking for tourists to save for a fee.


Yea, if private enterprise was a solution...you would find people selling gas out of barrels in between those long distant gas stations. Sheesh!:lol:

David K - 6-19-2020 at 08:50 AM

LOL...

Barry A. and paranewbi understand reality... Good replies, and to that I can't add anything more! ;)

SFandH - 6-19-2020 at 08:57 AM

Cruising the highway all day burning up gasoline looking for broken down motorists to help is certainly a money-losing proposition.

Sitting on your butt all day hoping to sell 5 gallons of gas now and then might bring in a few dollars once-in-awhile.

wilderone - 6-19-2020 at 09:07 AM

In the good ole days of traveling Baja, when everybody used to wave at each other, it was an unwritten rule to stop and inquire if you saw a vehicle on the side of the road and ask if they needed help. I've helped, I've received help. Last time I received help (limping on Mex. 1 with a flat tire, trying to get to a spot to pull off), a gringo in a shiny white truck drove past about 60 mph without giving me a glance. Second car that came along was a local, with wife and child. They slowly drove by, took in the situation, stopped on the side of the road ahead and asked if I needed help - and changed my tire. Turned out I had no jack (when did that happen?) - I was so grateful he came along. I think all Baja travelers can step up in some way to fill the Green Angel void.

The Price of Free Enterprise

MrBillM - 6-19-2020 at 09:15 AM

The skeptics have it right on this one.

It's absurd to think that a free-enterprise (profitable) equivalent to the Green Angels could be provided at a cost affordable to those needing the service.

That said, in the past, there has been a private insurance option available providing roadside assistance insurance for travelers between Mexicali and San Felipe. I once (years ago in August) stopped just north of Laguna Salada to assist a motorist who made the error of "thinking" that his oil pan would clear a roadside rock. Having never traveled in Baja before, he (wisely, as it turns out) bought the additional insurance.

I assume, though, that it's unlikely most would take advantage of said insurance if still available.

Hook - 6-19-2020 at 10:14 AM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Cruising the highway all day burning up gasoline looking for broken down motorists to help is certainly a money-losing proposition.

Sitting on your butt all day hoping to sell 5 gallons of gas now and then might bring in a few dollars once-in-awhile.



Bingo!

The time of the Green Angel has probably passed. Once upon a time, the highway was little traveled, and a passing car might take an hour or two. Not so, anymore.

Don Pisto - 6-22-2020 at 11:32 AM

hey they're back! part time anyway....

http://www.californiahoyusa.com/2020/06/good-news-green-ange...

del mar - 6-23-2020 at 10:51 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
hey they're back! part time anyway....

http://www.californiahoyusa.com/2020/06/good-news-green-ange...


we'll take any good news we can get!:yes: