BajaNomad

Final Baja trip episode.

blue.yota - 11-9-2020 at 01:25 PM

Hi Folks,

Just wanted to share my last video from our March 2020 trip. Love to hear your thoughts opinions? If I made any errors let me know of course respectfully. If you have more info related to where we travelled I'd love to hear what you know?

https://youtu.be/_nJ80wuxCKM


Best,

Hugh

David K - 11-9-2020 at 02:43 PM

Hi Hugh,
Thanks for the video!
I had not seen a video of the Pioneer Mine Trail drive before... only some photos. That road was the first road to Gonzaga Bay in the mid 1950s... following a mine cart trail from the Pioneer Mine to Molino de Lacy (by Punta Final resort) where the ore was processed.

If you wanted to edit some spellings, I noticed only three (here are the correct spellings:
Punta Chivato
Punta Final
San Borja

Nice mission photos!
Make Mission Santa María a goal since you like tough roads!

AKgringo - 11-9-2020 at 03:57 PM

Thanks for letting me crawl over the Pioneer mine road with you. Now I don't have to do that to my Trooper!

Seriously, thanks for posting the link!

blue.yota - 11-9-2020 at 05:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Thanks for letting me crawl over the Pioneer mine road with you. Now I don't have to do that to my Trooper!

Seriously, thanks for posting the link!


Your most welcome. We would like to do it in the opposite direction one of these days.

Hugh

blue.yota - 11-9-2020 at 05:16 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Hi Hugh,
Thanks for the video!
I had not seen a video of the Pioneer Mine Trail drive before... only some photos. That road was the first road to Gonzaga Bay in the mid 1950s... following a mine cart trail from the Pioneer Mine to Molino de Lacy (by Punta Final resort) where the ore was processed.

Glad you enjoyed it David! Oh I love the history thank you Sir.
Glad you enjoyed it David! Oh I love the history thank you Sir.


If you wanted to edit some spellings, I noticed only three (here are the correct spellings:
Punta Chivato
Punta Final
San Borja

Darn, how embarrassing, spelling has never been a strong suit for me. I appreciate the corrections, unfortunately YouTube doesn't have a way to replace an uploaded video with a new one. I would have to delete it permanently and upload a new correct one. I think I'll have to just live with my mistakes. I will make the corrections in the video description.

Nice mission photos!

Oh thank you Sir.Darn, how embarrassing, spelling has never been a strong suit for me. I appreciate the corrections, unfortunately YouTube doesn't have a way to replace an uploaded video with a new one. I would have to delete it permanently and upload a new correct one. I think I'll have to just live with my mistakes. I will make the corrections in the video description.

Nice mission photos!

Oh thank you Sir.

Make Mission Santa María a goal since you like tough roads!

I'll start looking at the maps. Can you give me a hint where it's located?I'll start looking at the maps. Can you give me a hint where it's located?Text



Best,

Hugh

David K - 11-9-2020 at 06:01 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
...mine cart trail from the Pioneer Mine to Molino de Lacy

So, who was this "Lacy" character??


The ore mill was originally called Molino de San Francisquito (after the bay nearby (Ensenada de San Francisquito, the bigger half of 'Gonzaga Bay'). William Lacy died and is buried at his mill. Punta Final (resort) was originally Puerto de San Francisquito, not to be confused with other one near El Barril!
The full story (links on VivaBaja.com):

Part 1: http://www.sanfelipe.com.mx/articles_stories/Articles2002/ki...

Part 2: http://www.sanfelipe.com.mx/articles_stories/Articles2002/ki...


David K - 11-9-2020 at 06:07 PM

Quote: Originally posted by blue.yota  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Hi Hugh,
Thanks for the video!
I had not seen a video of the Pioneer Mine Trail drive before... only some photos. That road was the first road to Gonzaga Bay in the mid 1950s... following a mine cart trail from the Pioneer Mine to Molino de Lacy (by Punta Final resort) where the ore was processed.

Glad you enjoyed it David! Oh I love the history thank you Sir.
Glad you enjoyed it David! Oh I love the history thank you Sir.


If you wanted to edit some spellings, I noticed only three (here are the correct spellings:
Punta Chivato
Punta Final
San Borja

Darn, how embarrassing, spelling has never been a strong suit for me. I appreciate the corrections, unfortunately YouTube doesn't have a way to replace an uploaded video with a new one. I would have to delete it permanently and upload a new correct one. I think I'll have to just live with my mistakes. I will make the corrections in the video description.

Nice mission photos!

Oh thank you Sir.Darn, how embarrassing, spelling has never been a strong suit for me. I appreciate the corrections, unfortunately YouTube doesn't have a way to replace an uploaded video with a new one. I would have to delete it permanently and upload a new correct one. I think I'll have to just live with my mistakes. I will make the corrections in the video description.

Nice mission photos!

Oh thank you Sir.

Make Mission Santa María a goal since you like tough roads!

I'll start looking at the maps. Can you give me a hint where it's located?I'll start looking at the maps. Can you give me a hint where it's located?Text



Best,

Hugh


Hey, no big deal amigo! You asked for corrections, and other than the Baja norte border being shown before Santa Rosalia and those tiny spelling things, it was a nice production! You should be proud!!

Mission Santa María is about 15 miles east of Cataviña, and next to the Pioneer Mine Road, one of the toughest in Baja! It is west from Punta Final. See www.vivabaja.com/msm and www.vivabaja.com/msm2010



blue.yota - 11-9-2020 at 06:18 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by blue.yota  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Hi Hugh,
Thanks for the video!
I had not seen a video of the Pioneer Mine Trail drive before... only some photos. That road was the first road to Gonzaga Bay in the mid 1950s... following a mine cart trail from the Pioneer Mine to Molino de Lacy (by Punta Final resort) where the ore was processed.

Glad you enjoyed it David! Oh I love the history thank you Sir.


Glad you enjoyed it David! Oh I love the history thank you Sir.


If you wanted to edit some spellings, I noticed only three (here are the correct spellings:
Punta Chivato
Punta Final
San Borja

Darn, how embarrassing, spelling has never been a strong suit for me. I appreciate the corrections, unfortunately YouTube doesn't have a way to replace an uploaded video with a new one. I would have to delete it permanently and upload a new correct one. I think I'll have to just live with my mistakes. I will make the corrections in the video description.

Nice mission photos!

Oh thank you Sir.Darn, how embarrassing, spelling has never been a strong suit for me. I appreciate the corrections, unfortunately YouTube doesn't have a way to replace an uploaded video with a new one. I would have to delete it permanently and upload a new correct one. I think I'll have to just live with my mistakes. I will make the corrections in the video description.

Nice mission photos!

Oh thank you Sir.

Make Mission Santa María a goal since you like tough roads!

I'll start looking at the maps. Can you give me a hint where it's located?I'll start looking at the maps. Can you give me a hint where it's located?Text



Best,

Hugh


Hey, no big deal amigo! You asked for corrections, and other than the Baja norte border being shown before Santa Rosalia and those tiny spelling things, it was a nice production! You should be proud!!

Mission Santa María is about 15 miles east of Cataviña, and next to the Pioneer Mine Road, one of the toughest in Baja! It is west from Punta Final. See www.vivabaja.com/msm and www.vivabaja.com/msm2010

Thanks David really appreciate it.



JZ - 11-9-2020 at 07:20 PM

Cool video. Here is the route for the Pioneer Mine Trail.

We made it about 1/4 of the way going North to South when my kid's bike overheated with a radiator problem. So we turned around. It was very rocky, but doable on bikes. You have to have a pretty capable 4x4 to do it.



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blue.yota - 11-9-2020 at 08:09 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Cool video. Here is the route for the Pioneer Mine Trail.

We made it about 1/4 of the way going North to South when my kid's bike overheated with a radiator problem. So we turned around. It was very rocky, but doable on bikes. You have to have a pretty capable 4x4 to do it.


Thanks! And thanks for the route I have it but others may want it. Moto's can definitely make it no problem and sound fun.

ehall - 11-10-2020 at 10:44 AM

Great video. Thanks for taking the time to make it.

David K - 11-10-2020 at 05:21 PM

Hugh, do you or your friend have a GPS track of your route (from an inReach or other device)?

I am curious about what dirt roads you were on in the video (besides the Pioneer Mine road)?

blue.yota - 11-10-2020 at 07:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ehall  
Great video. Thanks for taking the time to make it.


Glad you liked it and thanks!

blue.yota - 11-10-2020 at 07:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Hugh, do you or your friend have a GPS track of your route (from an inReach or other device)?

I am curious about what dirt roads you were on in the video (besides the Pioneer Mine road)?


Hi David. Please DM me and I'll see what I can get you.

David K - 11-11-2020 at 08:52 AM

u2u sent, thanks!

honda tom - 11-11-2020 at 09:32 AM

5 of us went through north to south on M/C about 10 years ago. I had been told it was called the "rock trail".

super rocky but fun.....

at the time I thought it would be M/C only from here on out.

Good Job!

David K - 11-11-2020 at 11:42 AM

The Bill Nichols Trail (south of Puertecitos west to El Rosario) is also called the Rock Trail, isn't it?

I wonder when Mina de San Francisquito became known as the "Pioneer Gold Mine"? It first is called that by Howard Gulick's map (1956), I think... Howard interviewed locals like Arturo Grosso (Laguna Chapala) and Dick Daggett back in those days for data on the old mines, the Camino Real, and other such things. Both Grosso and Daggett worked mines and mills in the area.

Daggett operated the King Richard Mine (also called La Josefina) south of the Pioneer Mine, along the road to Calamajué.

honda tom - 11-11-2020 at 07:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
The Bill Nichols Trail (south of Puertecitos west to El Rosario) is also called the Rock Trail, isn't it?

I wonder when Mina de San Francisquito became known as the "Pioneer Gold Mine"? It first is called that by Howard Gulick's map (1956), I think... Howard interviewed locals like Arturo Grosso (Laguna Chapala) and Dick Daggett back in those days for data on the old mines, the Camino Real, and other such things. Both Grosso and Daggett worked mines and mills in the area.

Daggett operated the King Richard Mine (also called La Josefina) south of the Pioneer Mine, along the road to Calamajué.

Yep ... that true.

PaulW - 11-12-2020 at 08:59 AM

Yes, many names. Near San Felipe we have multiple names for the common trails. Persons that do not know the real name just make up something. Then they pass it along and that is what we all get.

I like a names that have prominent place along the way, maybe a destination, or a geographical name that INEGI uses.
I am obviously in the minority
I plead guilty to creating names like Pinta Pass E and W..