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Baja Whale pictures from Sputnik News

LancairDriver - 4-5-2021 at 07:16 PM

Very nice collection of Whale photos from Guerrero Negro compliments sputnik news. Might spot someone you know?

https://sputniknews.com/photo/202104021082519257-mexicos-tou...

David K - 4-5-2021 at 09:20 PM

"Mexico's Tourists Graced With Unique Opportunity to Pet Whales in Gulf of California"

Is this a Russian disinformation source?
The whale petting is NOT in the Gulf of California.

LancairDriver - 4-5-2021 at 09:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

"Mexico's Tourists Graced With Unique Opportunity to Pet Whales in Gulf of California"

Is this a Russian disinformation source?
The whale petting is NOT in the Gulf of California.

Obviously no. Are you really serious? Are you paranoid about Russian dis-information? I think you can relax, the Russians are not coming. This looks like a typical lack of geographical Baja terrain familiarity from an editor whose life is not totally immersed in Baja lore.

mtgoat666 - 4-5-2021 at 10:11 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

The Russians were not a threat the past 4 years but that may soon change

LancairDriver - 4-5-2021 at 10:26 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Quote: Originally posted by David K

The Russians were not a threat the past 4 years but that may soon change

your delusions are showing, hike up your pants!

Trump was elected in 2016 only by Russian support.
Then trump proceeded to kowtow to Putin.
I think we are safe with Joe in charge, Joe is a patriot, unlike the last guy who nearly turned USA into a Russian fiefdom.

Goat, where were you in the past four years that were wasted trying and failing to prove Russian support for Trump?
Also have you missed the obviously demented patriot Biden stumbling up stairs and looking continuously bewildered and led and guided around and wondered when his handlers will finally give up and turn over the reins to Kamala?

Where are the pee tapes? John McCain last had them as far as I know and he’s not talking.

[Edited on 4-6-2021 by LancairDriver]

LancairDriver - 4-5-2021 at 10:34 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

See the winking emoji?

The Russians were not a threat the past 4 years but that may soon change! :light:

Sorry, I saw that emoji after I posted. And yes, the Russians and also the Chinese pose a more than credible military threat and lead in a lot of high tech weaponry while we spend our resources dealing with supporting a collapse of our southern border.

mtgoat666 - 4-5-2021 at 11:20 PM

Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver

Goat, where were you in the past four years that were wasted trying and failing to prove Russian support for Trump?

Driver,
You trump lemmings are delusional. I bet you think the Jan 6 insurgent attack on capital was antifa :lol:

The Russian support was proved by many, what wasn’t proved was Trump’s collusion with Russians. Lack of proof does not mean trump did not solicit help from Russians, or sell out himself or USA to Russians.

Hard to convict trump when Moscow Mitch was leading the senate jury of GOP lemmings that followed trump over the edge...

caj13 - 4-6-2021 at 07:54 AM

I find it highly confusing, DK rotinrely posts here of the evils of communism, but he bends over backward to support the clown who was nothing more than a russian asset in the whitehouse.

and before all of you defenders of the orange jump in here. do yourself a favor - actually go in and read the Mueller report - the whole thing.

But I know - thats hard 400 plus pages of facts that directly conflict with your personal political leanings and fantasy world!

mtgoat666 - 4-6-2021 at 08:45 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Don't let the facts get in the way of your illusions!
Just how low do you want America to drop because you hated a president, who loved this country instead of the rest of the world?

Trump does not love his country. Trump only loves himself.

Trump was a nasty stain on USA history. He was a con man who conned most all of the GOP. In a few years, after his staff publish their memoirs, the GOP will realize they were conned. Thank god he is gone. Hopefully his toxic children fade away too.

Terry28 - 4-6-2021 at 08:49 AM

I agree 100% with goat...the orange anus was a global embarrassment.

LancairDriver - 4-6-2021 at 09:49 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Terry28

I agree 100% with goat...the orange anus was a global embarrassment.

I wonder about that. Biden has surpassed Trump in the embarrassment category in his first few months. He has out done comedian Chevy Chase in his stair climbing acrobatics that entertained the entire world. His bewildered expression when he is allowed to speak in partial sentences just adds to the embarrassing spectacle. The show goes on...at least until his handlers decide enough is enough.

Just for perspective.....

AKgringo - 4-6-2021 at 11:05 AM

The whales have no affiliation with Russia, or China, and have never endorsed a political party, candidate, or office holder.

Another pleasant thread goes off topic!

mtgoat666 - 4-6-2021 at 11:23 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo

The whales have no affiliation with Russia, or China, and have never endorsed a political party, candidate, or office holder.

Another pleasant thread goes off topic!

actually, the eastern pacific gray whales that visit baja have been known to intermingle with the western pacific gray whales that go southward on Russian shoreline for breeding/birthing. Baja gray whales are known to visit Russia. Baja gray whales have an affiliation with Russia (and I know for fact, that if they could vote, they would vote for liberals as they care about global warming depleting their feeding grounds!).
Just saying...

Don Pisto - 4-6-2021 at 11:24 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo

The whales have no affiliation with Russia, or China, and have never endorsed a political party, candidate, or office holder.

Another pleasant thread goes off topic!

evidently its all good....long as you add the wink :rolleyes:

LancairDriver - 4-6-2021 at 12:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo

The whales have no affiliation with Russia, or China, and have never endorsed a political party, candidate, or office holder.

Another pleasant thread goes off topic!

LOL.

That didn’t take long did it. I thought a few nice whale pictures wouldn’t be too provoking, but I guess the Russian news outlet that published them and wasn’t familiar with Baja geography caused the furor. Actually in retrospect there wasn’t a good way to pirate the pictures without exposing the dreaded Russians who got Trump elected.

mtgoat666 - 4-6-2021 at 12:58 PM

Trump’s friends, the Russians, are very bad people. They are whaling in the Bering sea, and take 100 to 200 gray whales per year, for feeding animals at fur farms. Double bad: whaling to support raising/killing animals for fur.

Skipjack Joe - 4-6-2021 at 01:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Trump’s friends, the Russians, are very bad people. They are whaling in the Bering sea, and take 100 to 200 gray whales per year, for feeding animals at fur farms. Double bad: whaling to support raising/killing animals for fur.

You're out of your f**ckin mind. You're no different than the right media followers except on the opposite side. You spout lies like the other side except yours are those your group passes around. You're a puppet, a stooge for your party.

John Harper - 4-6-2021 at 02:53 PM

All I found was subsistence whaling by indigenous groups in Russia, nothing I saw about providing for "fur farms." I believe indigenous groups here in the USA and Canada are allowed to take whales as well for subsistence and cultural uses.

https://iwc.int/russian-federation

Perhaps Goat has some other sources? Maybe this is the "Russian disinformation" that DK was alluding to?

John

[Edited on 4-6-2021 by John Harper]

thebajarunner - 4-6-2021 at 03:19 PM

Yeah, under Federal law the indigenous people can take 1 to 3 per year, for their own consumption.

Goat..... tell us where you learned this dark, deep and significant fact.
We all need to know your source.

mtgoat666 - 4-6-2021 at 03:34 PM

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper

All I found was subsistence whaling by indigenous groups in Russia, nothing I saw about providing for "fur farms." I believe indigenous groups here in the USA and Canada are allowed to take whales as well for subsistence and cultural uses.

https://iwc.int/russian-federation

Perhaps Goat has some other sources? Maybe this is the "Russian disinformation" that DK was alluding to?

John

[Edited on 4-6-2021 by John Harper]

"A Greenpeace group revealed that some whale meat and blubber acquired through the program are used to feed foxes farmed for fur, even though the practice of using whale meat for fur farming violates the IWC rules for subsistence hunting."

"In 2018, Russia harpooned and landed 106 gray whales. Unlike US Inuit hunters, who use small boats and shoulder-mounted guns to kill bowhead whales for their subsistence needs, the Russian hunters operate modern boats donned with harpoon guns. Between 2013 and 2018, an IWC quota of 744 gray whales allowed Russian whalers to slaughter and land 716 whales."

http://savedolphins.eii.org/news/entry/the-plight-of-gray-wh...

When Environmentalists Crossed the Strait: Subsistence Whalers, Hippies, and the Soviets
RCC Perspectives, No. 5, NEW HISTORIES OF PACIFIC WHALING (2019), pp. 81-88 (8 pages)
https://www.jstor.org/stable/26850625

[Edited on 4-6-2021 by mtgoat666]

John Harper - 4-6-2021 at 04:19 PM

How much is "some whale meat and blubber?" One pound, one ton?
Perhaps that meat was from the "stinky" whales that the indigenous folks could not use? Are you "shocked" there may be a black market for that unused meat?

Also, looks like the IWC gave them a quota of 744 whales, but only 716 were taken? Sounds like a regulated and managed resource to me. Unless you think the IWC is a sham?

As far as method of take, do you expect sealskin kayaks and walrus tusk harpoons? I think a more efficient method of take would be more humane, rather than dragging sealskin buoys around for hours until exhaustion sets in, don't you?

IDK, seems like you could have chosen a far better hill to die on, tovarisch.

John

thebajarunner - 4-6-2021 at 04:50 PM

Methinks that what died on this hill is whatever credibility the Goat might have had (not much, we all will recognize)

As usual, the Bloviator in Chief is huffing and puffing and not hitting much.

For one who consistently makes fun of Trump he sure does a great job of imitating the man. Guess it just proves the old saw "Takes one to know one"

mtgoat666 - 4-6-2021 at 08:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe

Skippy,
The truth hurts, don’t it? Lashing out at the truth teller won’t change the truth. You will get past the pain only when you admit that your emperor, lord marmalade, has no clothes.

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper

IDK, seems like you could have chosen a far better hill to die on, tovarisch.

Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner

Methinks that what died on this hill is whatever credibility the Goat might have had (not much, we all will recognize)

As usual, the Bloviator in Chief is huffing and puffing and not hitting much.

Johnboy, thebajabummer,
My info was truthy, cited sources. Your response lacked substance, were hollow noise typical of conservatives that repeat dogma but don’t begin to understand the dogma and propaganda they repeat.

Do you hate whales? Do you hate dogs too?

[Edited on 4-7-2021 by mtgoat666]

del mar - 4-6-2021 at 10:05 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe

Skippy,
The truth hurts, don’t it? Lashing out at the truth teller won’t change the truth. You will get past the pain only when you admit that your emperor, lord marmalade, has no clothes.

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper

IDK, seems like you could have chosen a far better hill to die on, tovarisch.

Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner

Methinks that what died on this hill is whatever credibility the Goat might have had (not much, we all will recognize)

As usual, the Bloviator in Chief is huffing and puffing and not hitting much.

im just curious, are you drunk, high, or stupid?

motoged - 4-7-2021 at 02:58 AM

Bit of a dog pile, fellas.

another Dave - 4-9-2021 at 08:36 AM

Sorry, new here, but WOW.
Now at least I know who the deep thinkers are!
From whales to admiting how stupid one is was amazing, thank you!

mtgoat666 - 4-9-2021 at 09:13 AM

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper

Also, looks like the IWC gave them a quota of 744 whales, but only 716 were taken? Sounds like a regulated and managed resource to me. Unless you think the IWC is a sham?

All whaling is wrong. iWC exists to “manage” whaling. Of course it is a sham. The org allows massive takes under false pretense of science, such as Japanese whaling done for “research.” Japan was not happy with killing 300 whales per year (2018) under research sham, and left IWC in 2019 so they could resume commercial whaling and kill even more...

700 whales per year for indigenous subsistence in Russia? I doubt it. Another sham to harvest cheap meat for animal feed.

[Edited on 4-9-2021 by mtgoat666]