BajaNomad - Who all has signed up for Starlink?

Who all has signed up for Starlink?

JZ - 6-1-2021 at 11:15 AM

We just signed up for the Loreto area. They are saying it will be available by the end of 2021. Think they will make that?

I wonder if they will ship the gear to you in the US to take to MX?

Any good articles out there specific to MX?

Having 200Mbps speeds in Baja will be incredible.

cactuspete1970 - 6-1-2021 at 11:24 AM

Did you give Elon a deposit? :rolleyes:

gnukid - 6-1-2021 at 11:25 AM

I signed up, I recall there was an option to choose separate location from destination at time of delivery notification.

FAQ

When will I receive my Starlink?

When you place your order, you will receive an estimated shipping timeline in your confirmation email, which you can also view on your account page. We typically ship Starlink kits out within 2 weeks. If you are placing an order or deposit in an area where we don’t have coverage yet, you’ll receive an email when service becomes available in your area, and you’ll have the opportunity to update your shipping, service or billing details, or cancel your order.

[Edited on 6-1-2021 by gnukid]

willardguy - 6-1-2021 at 11:48 AM

I forgot I had posted this back in 2018.....check the plan pricing!

JZ - 6-1-2021 at 11:53 AM

Any competent junior product manager that runs a business line could tell you those prices were ridiculously low. So not sure how that ever got out.

No one should have ever expected it to be that cheap.

[Edited on 6-2-2021 by JZ]

mtgoat666 - 6-1-2021 at 02:18 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

We just signed up for the Loreto area. They are saying it will be available by the end of 2021. Think they will make that?

I wonder if they will ship the gear to you in the US to take to MX?

Any good articles out there specific to MX?

Since starlink is not even operating yet (except for a few beta users), i doubt you will find any substance in “reviews” or user experience…

rts551 - 6-1-2021 at 02:26 PM

https://in.pcmag.com/networking/141477/what-is-starlink-spac...

JZ - 6-1-2021 at 02:38 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Since starlink is not even operating yet (except for a few beta users), i doubt you will find any substance in “reviews” or user experience…

There are a bunch of YT videos from the beta users in the US. They show installation and speed tests.

One guy showed a chart of his performance over 6 months. The last several months he's been hitting 300Mbps on downloads. They show latency as well. 20-30ms.

It's coming along pretty quickly.

Don Pisto - 6-1-2021 at 02:44 PM

Quote: Originally posted by rts551

https://in.pcmag.com/networking/141477/what-is-starlink-spac...

good info! I had no idea it won't be available in cities or suburbs!

JZ - 6-1-2021 at 03:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto

Quote: Originally posted by rts551

https://in.pcmag.com/networking/141477/what-is-starlink-spac...

good info! I had no idea it won't be available in cities or suburbs!

If you request for LA it says the end 2022 is the best case.

Baja this year. Still some regulatory hurdles with MX govt.

Don Pisto - 6-1-2021 at 03:49 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy

I forgot I had posted this back in 2018.....check the plan pricing!

im gonna go with the Professional X :biggrin:

SFandH - 6-1-2021 at 04:26 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto

Quote: Originally posted by rts551

https://in.pcmag.com/networking/141477/what-is-starlink-spac...

good info! I had no idea it won't be available in cities or suburbs!

If you request for LA it says the end 2022 is the best case.

"SpaceX CEO Elon Musk has pointed out the satellite technology would struggle to supply enough internet bandwidth to users residing in heavily populated locations. “Starlink is great for low to medium population density. But satellites are not great for high-density urban,”

https://in.pcmag.com/networking/141477/what-is-starlink-spac...

A large high-density cluster of users will overload the satellite currently "in-view". There are high-speed options (fiber optics lines) in urban areas that work just fine and are probably cheaper.

[Edited on 6-1-2021 by SFandH]

RFClark - 6-1-2021 at 05:44 PM

Rodriguez Communications is now servicing Gonzgaza Bay. We went through the military checkpoint north of there today and it had point to point from Rodriguez. It’s new in the last month.

JZ - 6-1-2021 at 05:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by RFClark

Rodriguez Communications is now servicing Gonzgaza Bay. We went through the military checkpoint north of there today and it had point to point from Rodriguez. It’s new in the last month.

They are about 20 years too late. Hope these guys aren't investing too much. Starlink is gonna crush them and others like them.

[Edited on 6-2-2021 by JZ]

RFClark - 6-1-2021 at 06:10 PM

Well, probably but the Mexican Government can’t be happy about the guys at Langley being able to control their communications that easly!

RFClark - 6-1-2021 at 06:43 PM

Paper notes got hacked! In fact clay tokens got hacked, that’s why they put them inside of a sealed clay ball!

Encrypted notes on rice paper are best cause you can eat them!

mtgoat666 - 6-1-2021 at 08:08 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho

Quote: Originally posted by RFClark

Well, probably but the Mexican Government can’t be happy about the guys at Langley being able to control their communications that easly!

Yeah, I see single-sourcing so much of the world's digital communications as a huge minus in the Starlink system.

It's too juicy a target to believe it won't get hacked.

It’s not even close to single source. The majority of world will still be on land line system, cell phone system, etc.

Other satellite operators are already in the race to be satellite-comm vendors…

Bajaboy - 6-1-2021 at 08:11 PM

Yes, I signed up awhile ago and paid my deposit. We're moving down full time in 17 days and will have the dish shipped to our mail service. Email said we would have service before the end of the year.

BigBearRider - 6-1-2021 at 08:44 PM

What is the link to sign up for Baja starlink? US or Mexican site?

JZ - 6-1-2021 at 09:07 PM

Starlink.com

Type in the address. Or if you don't have an address, use Google Maps to get a Plus Code. Use that instead of an address.

white whale - 6-2-2021 at 07:59 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Starlink.com

Type in the address. Or if you don't have an address, use Google Maps to get a Plus Code. Use that instead of an address.

Plus Code - late to the party on that one. Interesting.

cactuspete1970 - 6-2-2021 at 02:30 PM

Have any of you heard of PT Barnum?

mtgoat666 - 6-2-2021 at 08:51 PM

Quote: Originally posted by cactuspete1970

Have any of you heard of PT Barnum?

The Greatest Showman — great movie, catchy numbers!

But you do have a point, amusing to see people signing up for satellite internet service that does not yet exist,… will they in combination with starlink prove the adage that ‘a sucker is born every minute?’

[Edited on 6-3-2021 by mtgoat666]

JZ - 6-2-2021 at 09:00 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Let's do a little bet, if you are a gambling man?

I'll bet you Starlink will be providing service in Baja by Q1 2022. I'd say sooner if there weren't regulatory challenges with the MX govt. It's not a technology challenge.

$1,000? We can let Doug hold the prize in escrow? You game?

Btw, ppl can get their deposit refunded by clicking a button.

[Edited on 6-3-2021 by JZ]

mtgoat666 - 6-2-2021 at 09:35 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

I have little interest in starlink, and really care very little about it, so you’ll have to find someone else to bet with….

JZ - 6-2-2021 at 09:45 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

I have little interest in starlink, and really care very little about it, so you’ll have to find someone else to bet with….

Then why are you in this thread piping up about something you don't care about and know very little about?

Actually, I think that can be asked in a much boarder sense?

SFandH - 6-3-2021 at 12:00 AM

A bit of quick googling indicates there are 7,389 satellites in earth orbit and Starlink will eventually consist of 30,000 satellites.

30,000 communication satellites controlled by Elon Musk. Can you imagine the huge amount of private communication data that will be flowing through this privately owned SpaceX system?

Sorta scary proposition doncha think?

Big brother, "big data", Elon.

DouglasP - 6-3-2021 at 07:07 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

I have little interest in starlink, and really care very little about it, so you’ll have to find someone else to bet with….

Then why are you in this thread piping up about something you don't care about and know very little about?

Actually, I think that can be asked in a much boarder sense?

HAHAHAHA!
JZ, you should change your screen name to goatowner, cause you own this clown on a regular basis.

BajaBill74 - 6-3-2021 at 11:41 AM

Starlink is facing legal challenges from competitors.

https://www.space.com/spacex-starlink-megaconstellation-fcc-...

motoged - 6-3-2021 at 11:51 AM

Quote: Originally posted by DouglasP

Then why are you in this thread piping up about something you don't care about and know very little about?

Actually, I think that can be asked in a much boarder sense?

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HAHAHAHA!
JZ, you should change your screen name to goatowner, cause you own this clown on a regular basis.

Jz is omniscient with all things. We should all bow down and give him the recognition he so desperately needs....he is right about everything he says..... just ask him....

He is trolling the goats here..... and there seem to be a few. :rolleyes:

55steve - 6-3-2021 at 06:22 PM

Here's a good recent review:

https://www.theverge.com/22435030/starlink-satellite-interne...

[Edited on 6-4-2021 by 55steve]

wiltonh - 6-4-2021 at 09:41 AM

A friend of mine in Oregon purchased Starlink. The one thing that she did not understand was that you needed a North view that is not restricted by trees. She ended up having to cut down some trees to make it work.

I am not sure that would be the same in Baja but I am sure there will be some section of the sky that will need to be open and the larger the view the better the service will work because you need to view more than one satellite at any given time.

AKgringo - 6-4-2021 at 09:51 AM

When I had a DirecTV dish on my home in CA, the service was hindered by trees, and occasionally by storm cells! I know that they are different technologies, but I can't imagine the satellite signals would be stronger than the units that ATT was transmitting from.

JZ - 6-4-2021 at 09:59 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 55steve

Here's a good recent review:

https://www.theverge.com/22435030/starlink-satellite-interne...

The guy comes off like a whiny b#tch. He cries a lot about having to be above the tree line and how it has some interruptions (as advertised, since it's in Beta and they are launching a bunch more satellites). Then he cries how many satellites it will have.

Journalism is full of hacks with an agenda these days. Don't believe half of what you read. Go to YT and watch videos from real ppl.

motoged - 6-4-2021 at 12:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

The guy comes off like a whiny b#tch......

Not a real man like you?

He offers some valid points....if there is room in your head for the opinions of others. :light:

As the article points out: " Reality, it must be emphasized, is very irritating. "

[Edited on 6-4-2021 by motoged]

SFandH - 6-4-2021 at 01:05 PM

About obstructions and Starlink:

"If you could see the connection between a Starlink satellite and your Starlink, it would look like a single beam between the two objects. As the satellite moves, the beam also moves.

The area within which this beam moves is the “field of view”. If any object such as a tree, chimney, pole, etc. interrupts the path of the beam, even briefly, your internet service will be interrupted.

In early service, the required clear field of view is a 100-degree cone around the center of the dish (after tilting) with a 25 degree elevation minimum. Some obstructions are worse than others. Obstructions low in the sky will cause more outages because satellites are in this area of the sky more frequently.

The best guidance we can give is to install your Starlink at the highest elevation possible where it is safe to do so, with a clear view of the sky. Users who live in areas with lots of tall trees, buildings, etc. may not be good candidates for early use of Starlink. However as more satellites are launched, the field of view constraints will decrease, enabling a wider variety of users.

Most people do not accurately assess their Starlink's field of view. To ensure the best possible service, download the Starlink app to assess field of view in your desired install location before installing."

https://www.starlink.com/faq

SFandH - 6-4-2021 at 01:08 PM

Can I travel with Starlink, or move it to a different address?

"Starlink satellites are scheduled to send internet down to all users within a designated area on the ground. This designated area is referred to as a cell.

Your Starlink is assigned to a single cell. If you move your Starlink outside of its assigned cell, a satellite will not be scheduled to serve your Starlink and you will not receive internet. This is constrained by geometry and is not arbitrary geofencing."

https://www.starlink.com/faq

[Edited on 6-4-2021 by SFandH]

JZ - 6-4-2021 at 03:03 PM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH

Can I travel with Starlink, or move it to a different address?

"Starlink satellites are scheduled to send internet down to all users within a designated area on the ground. This designated area is referred to as a cell.

Your Starlink is assigned to a single cell. If you move your Starlink outside of its assigned cell, a satellite will not be scheduled to serve your Starlink and you will not receive internet. This is constrained by geometry and is not arbitrary geofencing."

https://www.starlink.com/faq

[Edited on 6-4-2021 by SFandH]

Musk quote in April 2021:

"Yeah, should be fully mobile later this year, so you can move it anywhere or use it on an RV or truck in motion. We need a few more satellite launches to achieve compete coverage & some key software upgrades."

End of this year sounds overly optimistic, but it shows the direction they are headed.

Think about being anchored out on a boat on an island in the middle of the Sea of Cortez and being able to do a high quality video call with someone.

[Edited on 6-4-2021 by JZ]

mtgoat666 - 6-4-2021 at 04:19 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH

Current starlink system wont work on an unstable platform like boat rocking or swinging at anchor

white whale - 6-4-2021 at 04:32 PM

Bezos and Musk have figured out get into peoples homes cause that's where all the "monthly" cash is. Starlink and Ring Prime et al are financing these two trips into space.

I knew the geofence was off the table but looks like a hex cell for travel. Assume pricing will eventually shake out to screw it into the roof, stay in the cell or leave the cell.

This is a great source for how the roll out is going:
you can click on a cell to see what areas in the hex cell have consistent coverage.

https://sebsebmc.github.io/starlink-coverage/index.html

PaulW - 6-4-2021 at 04:34 PM

Going to need a state of the art advanced antenna and they are not cheap.
The military has been using them for years.
I even saw an article of a Sat antenna used on an automobile.
Used on ocean going yachts nowadays. Not for for Starlink yet.

[Edited on 6-4-2021 by PaulW]

JZ - 6-4-2021 at 05:05 PM

Quote: Originally posted by white whale

Bezos and Musk have figured out get into peoples homes cause that's where all the "monthly" cash is. Starlink and Ring Prime et al are financing these two trips into space.

I knew the geofence was off the table but looks like a hex cell for travel. Assume pricing will eventually shake out to screw it into the roof, stay in the cell or leave the cell.

This is a great source for how the roll out is going:
you can click on a cell to see what areas in the hex cell have consistent coverage.

https://sebsebmc.github.io/starlink-coverage/index.html

Interesting.

That shows Loreto as currently having coverage 97.9% of the time with a 25 degree minimum user terminal angle.

[Edited on 6-5-2021 by JZ]

tecatero - 6-5-2021 at 06:58 AM

Does anyone really have a date when Starlink systems will be shipped ? In Baja Sur it was supposedly Nov 2021......... just curious if this is a reality. Saludos

gnukid - 6-5-2021 at 07:59 AM

According to what we've seen, they are launching the mass of satellites and they have to go to there positions and then when there is sufficient coverage for a "Cell" based on a coverage rating s noted earlier in this thread for the location where you applied by sharing your address or google marker, then you will notified by email, choose plan, complete the order, confirm shipping location, optional roof mount, pay and receive equipment and setup.