BajaNomad - B.C. is hotter than B.C.?

B.C. is hotter than B.C.?

AKgringo - 7-1-2021 at 05:26 PM

When British Columbia has higher temperatures than Baja California, it is not good! I can't believe that at the end of June, Kamloops was hotter than San Felipe or Mexicali!

I have met a lot of folks from B.C., some of them are Nomads, and I am thinking of you guys now. Stay safe, and here's hoping for a cooling trend soon!

motoged - 7-1-2021 at 07:19 PM

The heat dome seems to be dissipating a bit. Yesterday it was
48.5 C (119 F ) in the shade on my covered deck with very light breeze.

Air is thick w/forest fire smoke....

AKgringo - 7-1-2021 at 07:36 PM

Ged, I spent half my life in Northern CA, and I have never experienced any heat quite that high, but I did have to work in 107 F once....never again! What is a Kamloops summer usually like, and do you even need air conditioning?

surabi - 7-1-2021 at 07:52 PM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo

What is a Kamloops summer usually like, and do you even need air conditioning?

At what temperatuure do you feel you need AC? It's a totally subjective thing. Plenty of people seem to "need" AC in the summer where I live just north of Puerto Vallarta, and claim you can't survive without it (in which case all the local Mexicans would be dead by now) but I exist just fine with fans.

When my daughter lived in Kelowna and I would go visit in the summer, I had to close the AC vent in the guest room because I was uncomfortably cold at the temp she found comfortable.

I read that the 121 degrees that Lytton registered was the hottest temp ever recorded on earth above 50 latitude N.

AKgringo - 7-1-2021 at 08:13 PM

Even further north, Prudhoe Bay saw 80 F earlier this month. That is about 70 degrees north latitude. I worked there for three years and never saw it that warm!

mtgoat666 - 7-1-2021 at 08:13 PM

Global warming! Climate change! Addicted to oil! And half the world (and all of the GOP) denies it or say it is hopeless so not worth going to rehab!

What would Jesus do?

Jesus would stage an intervention and drag you addicts to rehab!

willardguy - 7-1-2021 at 08:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by surabi

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo

What is a Kamloops summer usually like, and do you even need air conditioning?

what is it that brings you to a Baja forum?

motoged - 7-1-2021 at 08:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo

Ged, I spent half my life in Northern CA, and I have never experienced any heat quite that high, but I did have to work in 107 F once....never again! What is a Kamloops summer usually like, and do you even need air conditioning?

Summer temps can get into the 90's F for a week or two in an average summer.....this year is an anomalie ( but regular for climate changed future).

Housing here usually has air conditioning....older places not so much. I am sure glad I have it and set it to around 75F during such spells.

But have also been outside watering the gardens and working on my tan..... pretending I am somewhere in Baja.... :biggrin:

4x4abc - 7-1-2021 at 09:15 PM

since we are at the beginning of the planet getting warmer, the coming years will be interesting

mtgoat666 - 7-1-2021 at 09:23 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

since we are at the beginning of the planet getting warmer, the coming years will be interesting

global warming started 200 years ago, with beginning of industrial revolution. GHG emissions have been steadily increasing for 200 years now...

BornFisher - 7-1-2021 at 09:50 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

since we are at the beginning of the planet getting warmer, the coming years will be interesting

The beginning??? 20,000 years ago the sea level was 400 feet lower. That is a huge number in a short time. What caused it to rise? Maybe the sun?

motoged - 7-2-2021 at 12:05 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

since we are at the beginning of the planet getting warmer, the coming years will be interesting

Yep.... we are all frogs in that proverbial pot ....saying, "Geez, this ain't too bad...."

RFClark - 7-2-2021 at 01:36 AM

Here’s a chart of current sea temps. Onshore the temps in BCS are running in the mid 60s most mornings because of the cold water offshore!

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Mulege Canuck - 7-2-2021 at 05:42 AM

It was 42C in the bush on the west coast of Vancouver Island. I went through 4 gallons of water in 8 hours of working. Crazy heat! Two days later it was raining.

DouglasP - 7-2-2021 at 06:17 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

What would Jesus do?

He would smite you for being such an insufferable fool. 🤣

white whale - 7-2-2021 at 09:58 AM

Surprised it wasn't mentioned already - the Canadian town in the record book officially has been pretty much razed in a wildfire during this heat dome event. Lytton BC. On Canada Day no less. Had overnighted back in january, it has always been a drive through, this time I made the detour off the highway. Very sad looking event.

[Edited on 7-2-2021 by white whale]

surabi - 7-2-2021 at 12:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy

what is it that brings you to a Baja forum?

My daughter and family live in Baja, I have been there many times, as well as driven the length of the peninsula several times.

motoged - 7-3-2021 at 12:19 AM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho

Quote: Originally posted by white whale

Surprised it wasn't mentioned already - the Canadian town in the record book officially has been pretty much razed in a wildfire during this heat dome event. Lytton BC.

Actually, it was mentioned in another thread.

Looks like BC (Canada) is getting plastered with lightning-caused wildfires right now.

Cool fire map

Ged, hope you aren't in the middle of a bunch of dry fuel...

[Edited on 7-3-2021 by lencho]

Fire last night at east end of town....no houses lost. I was at a good vantage point watching lightening strikes all over the place and saw that and another fire start north of town.

https://www.kamloopsthisweek.com/news/video-shows-lightning-strike-as-fire-burns-on-strawberry-hill-1.24337870

https://www.kamloopsthisweek.com/news/with-video-fire-between-valleyview-and-juniper-ridge-flares-up-again-1.24338120

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia

Air is thick with smoke. I posted earlier it was 48 C (118 F)in the shade two days ago.... over 100 F for past week or so....temps have started to drop....only 36 C (97 F) today.

Very dry..... very dangerous conditions......shared by some western states in similar conditions.

Appreciate the concern :saint:

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mtgoat666 - 7-3-2021 at 06:11 AM

And here in Mexico it was so hot the ocean caught on fire
https://youtu.be/Xl0pljyC8dc

del mar - 7-3-2021 at 10:06 AM

maybe you guys could send us on the road to Ensenada a little of that warmth? been sweater weather here on the beach

Eat smart, stay healthy, reuse/conserve

mtgoat666 - 8-17-2021 at 08:36 PM

A couple lessons to wrap up summer…

(1) Climate change: July world's hottest month ever recorded

July was the world's hottest month ever recorded, a US federal scientific and regulatory agency has reported.

The data shows that the combined land and ocean-surface temperature was 0.93C (1.68F) above the 20th Century average of 15.8C (60.4F).

It is the highest temperature since record-keeping began 142 years ago. The previous record, set in July 2016, was equalled in 2019 and 2020.

Experts believe this is due to the long-term impact of climate change.

In a statement, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said that July's "unenviable distinction" was a cause for concern.

"In this case, first place is the worst place to be," NOAA administrator Rick Spinrad said in a statement.

(2) Obesity Epidemic May Contribute to Climate Change

Rising obesity rates worldwide may be contributing to the climate crisis, researchers report.

"Our analysis suggests that, in addition to beneficial effects on morbidity, mortality and health care costs, managing obesity can favorably affect the environment as well," said study corresponding author Faidon Magkos, from the department of nutrition, exercise and sports at the University of Copenhagen, in Denmark.

Like other oxygen-dependent creatures, humans emit carbon dioxide that's produced by metabolic processes necessary to live, the scientists explained.

The amount of carbon dioxide -- a greenhouse gas -- produced by a species is determined by its average metabolic rate, average body size and the total number of individuals of the species.

Obese people produce more carbon dioxide than those of normal weight, the researchers said.

Obese people consume greater quantities of food and beverages that need to be produced and transported to them, and transportation of obese people requires more consumption of fossil fuels. This means higher carbon dioxide emissions related to food production and transportation for obese people, the study authors explained.

The researchers estimated that obesity contributes to an extra 700 megatons of carbon dioxide emissions per year worldwide, or about 1.6% of all human-caused emissions.

Overall, being obese is associated with about 20% more greenhouse gas emissions (carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide) than being a normal weight, according to the study published online Dec. 20 in the journal Obesity.

"This has important implications for all those involved in the management of obesity," Magkos added in a journal news release.

The researchers stressed that these findings should not lead to more stigmatization for obese people, who already face negative attitudes and discrimination.

Ted Kyle is founder of ConscienHealth, an organization that works to find sound approaches to health and obesity. "This study makes it clear that we pay a steep price for making it difficult to access care for obesity. Not only does obesity affect the health of the individuals who have it, untreated obesity might also contribute to environmental issues," said Kyle.

[Edited on 8-18-2021 by mtgoat666]

AKgringo - 8-17-2021 at 08:51 PM

I am in Anchorage right now, and it has been cool and damp, with an occasional glimpse of the sun!

Last week Nome had it's earliest freezing temperature at 31 F.

JDCanuck - 8-17-2021 at 11:59 PM

Lytton Kamloops and Port Alberni are special cases up here, but this time around it spread out a lot wider. Don't think we can do much about a 20,000 year trend, so we might do better to learn to adapt than argue about how to reverse it. For what it's worth, tropical areas are supposed to rise less, so Baja might be more stable in the future than we are up here.

[Edited on 8-18-2021 by JDCanuck]

JDCanuck - 8-18-2021 at 01:44 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo

I am in Anchorage right now, and it has been cool and damp, with an occasional glimpse of the sun!

Last week Nome had it's earliest freezing temperature at 31 F.

Japan is doing poorly too:
Japanese City Suffers Coldest Summer Temperature in 128-Years of Records, + Noctilucent Clouds Persist into August as the Atmosphere Continues to Cool
https://electroverse.net/japan-suffers-coldest-summer-temp-i...
The mercury plunged even lower overnight, as you’d expect — an astonishing 36.7F (2.61C) was logged early Thursday morning, Aug 11, according to local news station TV Asahi.

[Edited on 8-18-2021 by JDCanuck]

motoged - 8-18-2021 at 08:10 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck

..... Don't think we can do much about a 20,000 year trend, so we might do better to learn to adapt than argue about how to reverse it. ....

[Edited on 8-18-2021 by JDCanuck]

That kinda sounds like the frog in the pot saying "Gee this pool is getting hotter.....put more ice in my next marg".

Reduction of influencing factors should be the first step, rather than a wardrobe change. :light:

JDCanuck - 8-18-2021 at 09:25 AM

We do what we can as individuals...I just have a problem with elite individuals who fly their private jet to receive a climate czar award and burn more jet fuel in one trip than i will in 20 years and then tell me I'm the problem.

David K - 8-18-2021 at 10:10 AM

Bravo! :light:

JDCanuck - 8-18-2021 at 10:22 AM

309: The number of private jets that flew into two Davos-area airports during the 2019 conference.

Heres the only common sense statement i saw that came out of Davos:
Davos attendees are frequently criticized for flying across the globe on private jets to discuss the perils of climate change, CNN Business reported. "I think it's very insane and weird that people come here in private jets to discuss climate change. It's not reasonable," Thunberg told CNN at Davos in 2019.

mtgoat666 - 8-18-2021 at 11:21 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck

We do what we can as individuals...I just have a problem with elite individuals who fly their private jet to receive a climate czar award and burn more jet fuel in one trip than i will in 20 years and then tell me I'm the problem.

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Bravo!

Ok, I understand why you are upset when rich people tell you something.
But plenty of poor and middle class people are telling you the same thing.
Stop being a dufus.

[Edited on 8-18-2021 by mtgoat666]

JDCanuck - 8-18-2021 at 01:12 PM

Mtgoat: You entirely miss my point. The governments are telling us they are going to take our funds and redirect them to reduce overall carbon footprints. They have proven over the past decades they will actually take our funds and increase their own personal footprints while we could have used those same funds to accelerate our own footprint reduction.

At best, they have used the funds to relocate alternate energy production to their own constituencies from the areas they would otherwise have been manufactured generally at a higher cost to the end purchaser.

So what has actually been accomplished?

JDCanuck - 8-18-2021 at 01:37 PM

A very good example of how those energy taxes are spent. This while raising duties and tariffs on cheaper imported solar panels from outside the US. Net effect: higher costs to the consumer and wasted taxes

https://nypost.com/2013/02/01/energy-secretary-chu-steps-dow...

[Edited on 8-19-2021 by JDCanuck]

JDCanuck - 8-18-2021 at 04:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by motoged

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck

..... Don't think we can do much about a 20,000 year trend, so we might do better to learn to adapt than argue about how to reverse it. ....

[Edited on 8-18-2021 by JDCanuck]

Hi Motoged: Thats exactly my point. Rather than stay in the pot and slowly boil from a 20000 year trend of warming temps, arguing about who can possibly reduce the heat, jump out of the pot! Turning the heat from high to medium high isn't going to help a whole lot if it just keeps getting hotter anyway.

[Edited on 8-18-2021 by JDCanuck]

Glidergeek - 8-18-2021 at 06:07 PM

Ok, I understand why you are upset when hypocrites' tell you something.

there I fixed it for you goat

motoged - 8-19-2021 at 11:46 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck

Quote: Originally posted by motoged

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck

..... Don't think we can do much about a 20,000 year trend, so we might do better to learn to adapt than argue about how to reverse it. ....

[Edited on 8-18-2021 by JDCanuck]

No....you totally don't get my point. It appears you are suggesting to NOT make any efforts to address human contributions to climate change....and "adapt".

Maybe you could expand on your plan and help us better understand how to adapt while continuing to contribute to global warming effects.

I asked you a while ago what your agenda was on BN with your recent arrival. I see what it is now.

Enjoy your dinner with Gunkid and Jizzy.

JDCanuck - 8-21-2021 at 11:25 AM

Motoged: Not what I was saying at all. There are massive numbers of people looking at how to reduce the human contribution to climate change and I have stated in several posts a lot of headway has been made in the past 30 years. I CLEARLY stated we must all do our part as individuals, and I include myself in that effort. Hope this clears up that misunderstanding. Meantime, don't build a long term residence on the beach hoping the levels won't rise, and prepare to adapt to live in warmer temps.

But...a 20000 year trend of warming precedes man's contribution and even with negating all of man's contributions it may very well continue in the same direction.

[Edited on 8-21-2021 by JDCanuck]

RFClark - 8-21-2021 at 11:44 AM

JDC,

Those “Climate Change is all man made” Liberals never seem to answer when you point out that sea levels have risen 350’ over the last 20K years!

FYI, take a look at the satellite sea temp map. The sea temps are actually lower than normal around N. America!