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Baja 1000 Map

HeyMulegeScott - 10-9-2021 at 08:43 AM



http://score-international.com/raceinfo/course-map-2021-baja...

David K - 10-9-2021 at 09:25 AM

Thank you, Scott!



ligui - 10-9-2021 at 09:27 AM

Going to be there ! viva Baja !

:bounce:

Bajaboy - 10-9-2021 at 09:35 AM

Thinking we might catch it at Checkpoint 2.

StuckSucks - 10-9-2021 at 09:56 AM

My passport is in the process of being renewed, so I will have to sit this one out, very depressing. Was hoping to spectate somewhere in Baja Sur. The peninsula runs are the best!

SFandH - 10-9-2021 at 11:23 AM

If you want to download the original, zoomable image of the map, click the link provided in the map post above and move your cursor over the map. A download icon will pop up at the bottom of the map. It's a pdf file.

SFandH - 10-9-2021 at 11:28 AM

What time will they start reaching Loreto? Mile 900+.

Bajazly - 10-9-2021 at 11:38 AM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
What time will they start reaching Loreto? Mile 900+.


About 18 hours after the start, usually start about 10 AM.

David K - 10-9-2021 at 11:58 AM

Motorcycles get a head start with a few hours gap until the Trophy Trucks and the rest of the classes.
The First Trophy Truck generally stars at 10 am.
The average speed is a bit over 50 mph, so 18 or a bit less hours after 10 am is a good guess for Loreto.
Maybe be ready about 15-16 hours after the start, so 1am-2am (and after), if it is a fast race. Now rain will make mud and that could slow things down, but the Loreto action will begin before sunrise.

willardguy - 10-9-2021 at 12:37 PM



that just means 84 days till Dakar!:coolup:

[Edited on 10-9-2021 by willardguy]

bajatrailrider - 10-10-2021 at 02:41 PM

Hola David I'm trying to figure out this map . Is it going past El coyote and. San Vicente like most racing?

motoged - 10-10-2021 at 02:47 PM

Quote: Originally posted by willardguy  


that just means 84 days till Dakar!:coolup:

[Edited on 10-9-2021 by willardguy]


:biggrin: Two things to look forward to....

Dakar is the penultimate major off-road race.... a week full of Baja 1000's

David K - 10-10-2021 at 02:57 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  
Hola David I'm trying to figure out this map . Is it going past El coyote and. San Vicente like most racing?


Hi Larry,
The map shows the race heading west from Valle de la Trinidad to Hwy. 1, just south of San Vicente, then down to Colonet where it will continue to the Pacific coast then south... No passing through Mike's or El Coyote. It will be 13 kms. south of San Vicente (at Km. 103).

PaulW - 10-11-2021 at 06:41 AM

10/10 road report Valley Trinidad to Hwy 1
The west slope was a bit rough, cornering ruts, rocks, etc.
East slope is more sandy and road held up better, not bad.

bajatrailrider - 10-11-2021 at 07:47 PM

Thank you David I can ride my moto and not get run over

honda tom - 10-12-2021 at 06:42 AM

Looks as though the course will leave Hwy 1 at Chapala... head to Cocos... then back out through Calamuje wash to Crucero.... been quite a few years since it ran Calamuje.

David K - 10-12-2021 at 08:09 AM

Quote: Originally posted by honda tom  
Looks as though the course will leave Hwy 1 at Chapala... head to Cocos... then back out through Calamuje wash to Crucero.... been quite a few years since it ran Calamuje.


Calamajué wash was a big issue when were were helping Baja Pits at El Crucero in 2006... It was extra wet that year and there was a bottleneck with stuck race vehicles in the mud/ creek water. I drove the entire wash road in 2012 and 2016, and you would never know a race had been through there. The water level was also just a trickle in the road and one big puddle was all.

Previous trips using that road were in 2002, 1979, 1975, 1974, and 1967. Before 1983, it was the route of 'Hwy 5'!


The deepest water (2012).


The Jeep that followed us in 2012 that Coco warned not to go via Calamajué because of "deep water"!


Water in the road, 2016.

[Edited on 10-12-2021 by David K]

honda tom - 10-12-2021 at 09:30 AM

I went through nov. 2021... water was there but not much of an issue. The new growth makes the path very narrow at points, one of the best routes ever!

David K - 10-12-2021 at 11:32 AM

Quote: Originally posted by honda tom  
I went through nov. 2021...


A time traveler! Love it!!!

Paulina - 10-13-2021 at 01:04 PM

We will be making the 7 hour mule trek to the mountain top above the San Juan mine, overlooking the Las Flores valley, Bahia de Los Angeles. Working emergency radio relay again for BFGoodrich. We ride up the day before, set up camp, secure mules. Day two work starts mid day through the night and into the morning. Depending on when we are released we may stay third night as it's another 7 hour ride back to the ranch. Can't wait!

P>*)))>{









honda tom - 10-16-2021 at 07:07 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by honda tom  
I went through nov. 2021...


A time traveler! Love it!!!


Yeah.... all of 2020 / 2021 trips kind of run together...

steekers - 10-16-2021 at 03:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
Thinking we might catch it at Checkpoint 2.


We will be in Catavina area a few days before start of race, staying at the famous Santa Ines Rancho. Catch up with Ralph who had his birthday yesterday, October 15th. Plan to pit at the Baja Pits Cocos Corner night before race. Bikes to come through around 9 am.

If anyone interested in meeting up during those days, give me a U2U. Will be riding my XR400.

[Edited on 10-17-2021 by steekers]

David K - 10-17-2021 at 10:16 AM

Quote: Originally posted by steekers  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
Thinking we might catch it at Checkpoint 2.


We will be in Catavina area a few days before start of race, staying at the famous Santa Ines Rancho. Catch up with Ralph who had his birthday yesterday, October 15th. Plan to pit at the Baja Pits Cocos Corner night before race. Bikes to come through around 9 am.

If anyone interested in meeting up during those days, give me a U2U. Will be riding my XR400.

[Edited on 10-17-2021 by steekers]


Nice invite!
Will keep this in mind.
Love Baja, love off-road racing!

TMW - 10-17-2021 at 12:15 PM

We went thru Calamajue wash a week ago. water was not deep but there was a place or two to be careful of because of the mud. Basically we had no trouble getting thru. Coco had a locked gate put up not far from his old place toward Calamajue. Ironically there is a short road around it so I'm not sure what it's suppose to prove or imply.

BajaBlanca - 10-18-2021 at 05:36 AM

Many here in La Bocana getting excited about going to the see the race! They set up tents and cheer everyone along!

Bajaboy - 10-19-2021 at 10:07 PM

Quote: Originally posted by steekers  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  
Thinking we might catch it at Checkpoint 2.


We will be in Catavina area a few days before start of race, staying at the famous Santa Ines Rancho. Catch up with Ralph who had his birthday yesterday, October 15th. Plan to pit at the Baja Pits Cocos Corner night before race. Bikes to come through around 9 am.

If anyone interested in meeting up during those days, give me a U2U. Will be riding my XR400.

[Edited on 10-17-2021 by steekers]


Right on! Once we get a better grip on our plans, I'll post it here.

David K - 10-20-2021 at 09:43 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
We went thru Calamajue wash a week ago. water was not deep but there was a place or two to be careful of because of the mud. Basically we had no trouble getting thru. Coco had a locked gate put up not far from his old place toward Calamajue. Ironically there is a short road around it so I'm not sure what it's suppose to prove or imply.


Hi Tom... Coco had nothing to do with it and does not have a key for it like when he was at his old corner. The gate was installed to prevent the taking of rocks, green rocks from the canyon by landscape material thieves. This per posts on a m/c Facebook page.

matthew_mangus - 10-21-2021 at 12:42 PM

I'll be camping and watching the race along the coast somewhere around race mile 200. looking forward to it!

Lost Roadie - 10-21-2021 at 07:44 PM

PDF maps are neat, digital files are very useful. I thought I should share the Baja1k 2021 files here with fellow nomads.

I'll probably be watching the race and fishing around here if any nomads are going to be in the area.
N24.40811° W111.51126°

GPX:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/14habohj3p3smwi/fc.gpx?dl=0


KML file anyone can open in google earth:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vrrop85zfa8jzx/fc.kml?dl=0


For the uber nav geeks here's a couple transparent maps to overlay the race course over the map on your Garmin units. (on compatible devices like Montana series)
This is the way I like to manage tracks, instead of having a bunch of tracks/waypoints I make maps to turn on and off easily.

One file with tracks and waypoints, one with just tracks and no waypoints.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9vtr8uv1apitf1u/AADtl1sDkCZa9R05m...





[Edited on 10-22-2021 by Lost Roadie]

mtgoat666 - 10-21-2021 at 07:58 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Lost Roadie  
PDF maps are neat, digital files are very useful. I thought I should share the Baja1k 2021 files here with fellow nomads.

I'll probably be watching the race and fishing around here if any nomads are going to be in the area.
N24.40811° W111.51126°

GPX:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/14habohj3p3smwi/fc.gpx?dl=0


KML file anyone can open in google earth:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vrrop85zfa8jzx/fc.kml?dl=0


For the uber nav geeks here's a couple transparent maps to overlay the race course over the map on your Garmin units. (on compatible devices like Montana series)
This is the way I like to manage tracks, instead of having a bunch of tracks/waypoints I make maps to turn on and off easily.

One file with tracks and waypoints, one with just tracks and no waypoints.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9vtr8uv1apitf1u/AADtl1sDkCZa9R05m...



The gps files are on the score website
https://score-international.com/raceinfo/gps-files-2021-baja...

[Edited on 10-22-2021 by mtgoat666]

PaulW - 10-22-2021 at 02:19 PM

Lost Roadie,
I think you will find the GPX version pretty poor compared to the USR version. This is why most of the racers use USR.
The GPX version is highly filtered to get it to a reasonable size. This means missing sharp curves and dropoffs.
The soultion is to view the USR files on a compatible device without the filtering.

geoffff - 10-26-2021 at 10:14 PM

Paul, where do you find the USR version?

PaulW - 10-27-2021 at 08:05 AM

Both GPX and USR

http://score-international.com/raceinfo/special-gps-files/

Race Course on newer Satellite image (Hwy. 5 completed)

David K - 10-28-2021 at 10:21 AM

Thanks to 'geoffff' for some pointers, I figured out how to put the Baja 1000 course and notes (little squares) onto the ArcGIS satellite map, which has the completed Hwy. 5. The Score link map used Google Earth and they do not have imagery showing anything new in the Coco's Corner area.

Check it out and zoom way in...

https://arcg.is/LCiuf

PaulW - 10-28-2021 at 12:57 PM

Very good map

matthew_mangus - 10-28-2021 at 01:32 PM

FYI - Contingency will NOT be open to the public due to Covid

I'm personally bummed about this but I guess it gives our crew more time to get S to find a good campsite along the water.

honda tom - 10-29-2021 at 08:45 AM

dang... no Calamuje... cocos old road.

David K - 10-29-2021 at 10:00 AM

Quote: Originally posted by honda tom  
dang... no Calamuje... cocos old road.


Apparently, Calamajué Canyon will never be used for racing again, for environmental reasons, I guess?

PaulW - 10-29-2021 at 12:54 PM


The Govt declared that Calamajué Canyon racing was forbidden several years ago and the next race went thru the canyon. Could be the original forbidden use is now being honored?
Of course non racing use is good.

StuckSucks - 11-1-2021 at 10:02 AM

Here's the Baja 1000 Course Map embedded in Google Maps (and cleaned up a bit).

tiotomasbcs - 11-1-2021 at 03:31 PM

What fun, Paulina! A view few witness! Can you feel the excitement...sure you can. Esp with radios blaring! enjoy!!

StuckSucks - 11-2-2021 at 08:53 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  

Cool... maybe one slight edit? "Point-to-point race: 1,2227 miles"


What am I missing?

Paulina - 11-2-2021 at 01:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by tiotomasbcs  
What fun, Paulina! A view few witness! Can you feel the excitement...sure you can. Esp with radios blaring! enjoy!!


The view is amazing. We rarely get to see the race as we are usually off on a mountain top. From this location we will see the lights from the racers down on the Valley floor as they leave Bahia de Los Angeles.
Two weeks to go before we head to the ranch.

David K - 11-2-2021 at 01:49 PM

Paulina, if you could take photos of any ruins of the mine buildings, railroad line, etc., that would make for good historical photographic preservation. I would also like share them on my Facebook Baja Mission/History page.
Thanks!
Have fun up there and stay warm!

Paulina - 11-2-2021 at 02:10 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Paulina, if you could take photos of any ruins of the mine buildings, railroad line, etc., that would make for good historical photographic preservation. I would also like share them on my Facebook Baja Mission/History page.
Thanks!
Have fun up there and stay warm!


Will do! I have some photos from 2017 that I can send you, if I didn't share them with you then.

P>*)))>{

PaulW - 11-17-2021 at 09:52 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
https://www.autoweek.com/news/a36490799/scg-baja-1000-fuel-c...

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No doubt the guy can build the thing. Apparently he has the dollars and smarts and that is all it takes. But to drive it in Baja he will have to have a semi with a cryo trailer to refill his tanks. Maybe more thatn one of them if the distance is significant?

4x4abc - 11-17-2021 at 12:53 PM

Paulina, which mountain top are you on?
Any crosses?

Bajaboy - 11-17-2021 at 02:35 PM

Took my daughter up to San Diego to get her Covid shot. We stopped at Baja Cactus to see if we could get a room for the following night. Unfortunately, they were booked.

But on the bright side, we were able to assist the couple in front of us who needed language assistance with the front desk staff. It was none other than Ivan Ironman Stewart and his wife.

My daughter and I geeked out on all the buggies, trucks, and bikes pre-running on our quick trip to the States. We're back on the better side of the border now.

We recently had some stairs custom made by a guy in Vizcaino. His shop is .2 of a mile from checkpoint 2. He is letting us camp at his place for the night. Can't wait!

David K - 11-17-2021 at 03:31 PM

Ivan is cool...
Harald, they are at the San Juan Mine area. Photos from up there are special!

100X - 11-17-2021 at 03:46 PM

This race is almost as magical and wonderful as the peninsula it takes place on. Both are rare and one of a kind for sure. So glad so many enjoy both!

I will be up all night chasing a motorcycle from Loreto to La Paz, after staying up most or all night on several occasions helping him pre-run his section.

The course and conditions are ever changing. Between the whoops, rocks, silt, dust, cliffs, southern Pacific fog (!!!), animals, cacti, spectators, hallucinations and possibly even chupacabras it is a surreal experience that demands 100% focus for hours on end, both day and night. This year we even get a blood moon and a lunar eclipse!

The logistics, preparation and time it takes to make a serious attempt at this race are huge. The trophy trucks and cars are way cool, but the bike riders (and the class 11 stock VW's) are the real tough guys/gals in my book!

Bajaboy - 11-18-2021 at 10:25 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Live Tracking Map, Weatherman Radio, Live Score Video: https://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/2021-score-baja-10...


I'm watching the live stream on my tv via YouTube....almost as good as being there in person....which will happen in a few hours

mtgoat666 - 11-18-2021 at 01:59 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Live Tracking Map, Weatherman Radio, Live Score Video: https://www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/2021-score-baja-10...


i tried viewing that live feed to see what all the excitement was about. i saw a minute of people standing around by the course (no cars, no racing), followed by the longest commercial break ever! clicked goodbye to that waste of time!

one commercial break, with multiple redbull ads separate by multiple ads for the mex navy and baja jerky -- why would i want to watch duplicate ads in series?
and baja jerky appears to be usa company, and does not appear to be made of anything from baja. wtf?

David K - 11-19-2021 at 08:28 AM

Good morning race fans... Looks like the first bike and truck to La Paz are:

#1x Mark Samuels Pro Motto Unlimited
#11 Rob MacCachren Trophy Truck

David K - 11-19-2021 at 08:34 AM

Finishers list right now:

Mark Samuels... 1x FIN
Derek Ausserbauer... 5x FIN
Jason Alosi... 97x FIN
Shane Redline... 22x FIN
Greg Bardonnex... 308x FIN
Jano Montoya... 325X FIN
Oskar Espinoza... 8A FIN
Rob MacCachren... 11 FIN
Christopher Gil... 109x FIN
Tavo Vildosola... 21 FIN
Ryan Liebelt... 408x FIN

PaulW - 11-19-2021 at 02:04 PM

Tough race for trucks
only 10 TT in the top 40
3 quads in the top 17
7 bikes in the top 10

Wild rollover in La Turquesa Canyon

David K - 11-19-2021 at 05:04 PM

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2...

Baja Nomad 'steekers' camped at the top of the steep drop off... I bet he will have some stories!

PaulW - 11-19-2021 at 05:30 PM

At 4:22PM SCORE tracker says Steele is at RM 257.7 and Robby is at RM 252.9
I also read that Robby lost his motor. Nothing about Steele.
Of course it means nothing becasue the onboard trackers a known to fail. Racers wanting to go for the overall championship carry two trackers.

Bajaboy - 11-19-2021 at 06:52 PM

My view from last night
https://youtu.be/81o6KQ1vH60

AKgringo - 11-19-2021 at 08:02 PM

If the trackers were not working, is there any way to monitor their speed in controlled speed zones?

Bajaboy - 11-20-2021 at 08:59 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
If the trackers were not working, is there any way to monitor their speed in controlled speed zones?


During the race, we heard a motorcycle had lost his tracker. The officials asked if his chase team was looking for it. They said no and race officiials reminded them there would be a time penalty for each checkpoint.

100X - 11-20-2021 at 11:17 AM

Great video Bajaboy. Such a professional team, right down to how calmly Andy leaves the pit.

PaulW - 11-20-2021 at 04:45 PM

About SCORE Trackers
They put 2 or 3 trackers on every car, we had 2. Only one of them transmits, the others just data log as backups.

At the finish if one tracker has incomplete data then they look at the next. Also the system that calls the data in via iridium could fail (tree hits XM it antenna) but unit could still be data logging. What you see on tracking website is not what officials review.

Lost Roadie - 11-20-2021 at 05:42 PM

Some shots from my perspective of the race, I didn't record as many bikes as I would like, was busy cheering them on.:D


https://vimeo.com/648159328/b5b6c32cd8





[Edited on 11-21-2021 by Lost Roadie]

David K - 11-20-2021 at 07:07 PM

Here is the 'unofficial' 2021 Baja 1000 results:

The Overall positions:

https://score-international.com/raceinfo/overall-finish-orde...

The class positions:

https://score-international.com/raceinfo/unofficial-class-su...


Seems the fastest Trophy Trucks were doing around 58 mph average and the fastest bike was close to 53 mph. So horsepower was king for speed!

[Edited on 11-21-2021 by David K]

mtgoat666 - 11-21-2021 at 08:19 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Here is the 'unofficial' 2021 Baja 1000 results:

The Overall positions:

https://score-international.com/raceinfo/overall-finish-orde...

The class positions:

https://score-international.com/raceinfo/unofficial-class-su...


Seems the fastest Trophy Trucks were doing around 58 mph average and the fastest bike was close to 53 mph. So horsepower was king for speed!

[Edited on 11-21-2021 by David K]


Did the race wrap up without anybody dieing? It would be good to hear the race managed to not kill anyone this year!

bent-rim - 11-22-2021 at 05:42 PM

Is misspelled snark still snark?

David K - 11-22-2021 at 06:08 PM

Counter-snark: If goat wants to see senseless death and destruction he need only go to any number of cities governed by the people he likes to vote for!