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checking covid vaccine cards

Smellslikefish - 2-16-2022 at 01:50 PM

A German friend would like to fly to Baja and then drive to the U.S.
afterwards.
She's wondering if customs is asking for proof of vaccines from non
U.S. citizens.
Has anyone had any direct experience with this?

gnukid - 2-16-2022 at 06:18 PM

There is no point that a covid injection of genetic experiment vaccine is required either on a trip to Baja or to USA either by car, walking or by plane.

There is no entry point that a vaccine test is required to arrive in Baja by plane, car or walk, or to drive or walk into USA.

[Edited on 2-17-2022 by gnukid]

mtgoat666 - 2-16-2022 at 10:17 PM

Friends told me that at SY land border CBP sometimes ask for traveler to attest to vaccine status,… and occasionally they ask to see proof.

mtgoat666 - 2-16-2022 at 10:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
There is no point that a covid injection of genetic experiment vaccine is required either on a trip to Baja or to USA either by car, walking or by plane.


Paul,
You are wrong. Again.

Alm - 2-17-2022 at 10:37 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
There is no point that a covid injection of genetic experiment vaccine is required either on a trip to Baja or to USA either by car, walking or by plane.


Paul,
You are wrong. Again.

x2. Uninformed. US require proof of vaccination of foreigners on land crossings since opening the border on Nov 8, 2021. On air arrivals US require testing results, either fresh negative or old positive (regardless of citizenship).

Also, leaving Mexico by air the airline may require testing again, type of test depends on the destination country.

Smellslikefish - 2-17-2022 at 12:02 PM

US require proof of vaccination of foreigners on land crossings since opening the border on Nov 8, 2021. On air arrivals US require testing results, either fresh negative or old positive (regardless of citizenship).

Also, leaving Mexico by air the airline may require testing again, type of test depends on the destination country.

this is my understanding as well, but hoping to find out how it is being handled in practice.

JZ - 2-17-2022 at 12:11 PM

Someone on here just reported they drove back across and weren't asked about vax status.

Maybe they are doing it case by case as Goat suggested.

David K - 2-17-2022 at 12:35 PM

Last I heard, they never have asked U.S. citizens (since they cannot deny your return to your home country). It is non-U.S. citizens they can ask for proof.

ehall - 2-17-2022 at 01:33 PM

I have crossed 8 or 10 times last 2 years. Never asked.

BajaMama - 2-17-2022 at 01:55 PM

Border Patrol won't ask if you are a U.S citizen, but I believe if you are a foreigner you will be asked.

David K - 2-17-2022 at 02:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  
Border Patrol won't ask if you are a U.S citizen, but I believe if you are a foreigner you will be asked.


It is actually CBP (Customs) who is at the border crossing, and since you are an informed traveler, you must know that a passport is the document you present to the officer when you pull up to the booth. That document (or similar proof) is how he knows you are a U.S. citizen.
Before the passport requirement was initiated a few years ago, the officers ALWAYS asked (first) what country we were citizens of.

TMW - 2-18-2022 at 03:12 PM

We came back in Oct 2021 at Mexicali west and was not asked. Just wanted to know how far down I went.

Alm - 2-19-2022 at 05:34 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Smellslikefish  

this is my understanding as well, but hoping to find out how it is being handled in practice.

I crossed their border 3 times in the past 3 months. On two occasions they asked whether I'm vaccinated - after seeing Canadian passport. Didn't ask to show the proof. Like Dirty Harry says - do you feel lucky? :)


[Edited on 2-20-2022 by Alm]

Alm - 2-19-2022 at 05:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  
I believe if you are a foreigner you will be asked.

Your belief is correct. Only foreigners are required to have a proof of vaccination.

Bajaboy - 2-19-2022 at 06:42 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Someone on here just reported they drove back across and weren't asked about vax status.

Maybe they are doing it case by case as Goat suggested.



You still promoting taking Ivermectin:lol:

gnukid - 2-19-2022 at 07:24 PM

Ivermectin is proven to be effective globally against a variety of issues including covid type infections. It is commonly used prophylactically and also prescribed commonly for early use against covid symptoms in Mexico.

Ivermectin has a long history, as safe, commonly used medicine with little to no risk when used as prescribed, it is also very affordable.

USA is one of a few countries that does not prescribe Ivermectin for a variety of prophylactic and early infection treatments, and even prohibits its use, even though hundreds of studies show efficacy.

In USA under Fauci and CDC, Remdesevir is among the only treatments for covid type infection and that drug has proven to cause more than 35% deaths from distinct negative responses, Kidney failure, Hypertension, water retention flooding lungs resulting in death.

Remdesevir has been proven to be harmful in almost every study, it's use is being investigated as in intentionally harmful.

Remdesivir and Acute Renal Failure: A Potential Safety Signal From Disproportionality Analysis of the WHO Safety Database
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33340409/


Kidney disorders as serious adverse drug reactions of remdesivir in coronavirus disease 2019: a retrospective case–noncase study
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7907730/


Remdesivir Causes Renal Failure, Hospital Protocols Are Killing People
https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/09/02/remdesivir-causes-renal-fa...


Ivermectin has been proven effective and is commonly prescribed for covid in Mexico and around the world with broad success

A five-day course of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 may reduce the duration of illness
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/

Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/



[Edited on 2-20-2022 by gnukid]

mtgoat666 - 2-19-2022 at 07:38 PM

Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
Ivermectin is proven to be effective globally against a variety of issues including covid type infections. It is commonly used prophylactically and also prescribed commonly for early use against covid symptoms in Mexico.

Ivermectin has a long history, as safe, commonly used medicine with little to no risk when used as prescribed, it is also very affordable.

USA is one of a few countries that does not prescribe Ivermectin for a variety of prophylactic and early infection treatments, and even prohibits its use, even though hundreds of studies show efficacy.

In USA under Fauci and CDC, Remdesevir is among the only treatments for covid type infection and that drug has proven to cause more than 35% deaths from distinct negative responses, Kidney failure, Hypertension, water retention flooding lungs resulting in death.

Remdesevir has been proven to be harmful in almost every study, it's use is being investigated as in intentionally harmful.

Remdesivir and Acute Renal Failure: A Potential Safety Signal From Disproportionality Analysis of the WHO Safety Database
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33340409/


Kidney disorders as serious adverse drug reactions of remdesivir in coronavirus disease 2019: a retrospective case–noncase study
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7907730/


Remdesivir Causes Renal Failure, Hospital Protocols Are Killing People
https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/09/02/remdesivir-causes-renal-fa...


Ivermectin has been proven effective and is commonly prescribed for covid in Mexico and around the world with broad success

Ivermectin for COVID-19: real-time meta analysis of 78 studies
https://ivmmeta.com


Dumbkid,
Every time you post I think you can’t write anything more stupid. You topped yourself today. Congratulations!

gnukid - 2-19-2022 at 08:37 PM

WHO has issued a conditional recommendation against the use of remdesivir in hospitalized patients, regardless of disease severity, as there is currently no evidence that remdesivir improves survival and other outcomes in these patients.” World Health Organization

https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/who-rec...

JZ - 2-19-2022 at 08:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy  


You still promoting taking Ivermectin:lol:



I know this is hard for you to understand:

- Ppl can be pro vax and anti-mandate
- You can realize it is a very severe illness and not want to shut down society, but instead do things to protect the vulnerable

I mean, the last time I checked only about a quarter of 5-11 yo's were vaxxed. And that is after the huge uptick in case counts from Omicron. Are the 75% of ppl who choose to not get their kids vaxx'd evil anti-vaxxers?

I've never promoted Ivermectin. But have said we need to make more investment/research into the monoclonal antibody therapeutics. Why the hell wouldn't we?

I've also said from the beginning it was tragic to keep kids out of school. And also very bad to force them to wear masks for 8 hours a day, especially younger kids who need to develop emotionally.

With what has come out over the last 4-6 months and continues to come out, this has pretty much all been proven to be true. Many studies saying just that.

If you want to get vaxxed get vaxxed. If you want your kids to get vaxxed, get them vaxxed. If you want to wear a mask until the end of time, do it.

Just don't take away the choice from others. I've told you this before, I think you are putting your kids in a lot higher risk by raising them in Baja. But I think it is really great that you are raising them down there. And I'm certainly not gonna judge you on it.


[Edited on 2-20-2022 by JZ]

LancairDriver - 2-19-2022 at 11:00 PM

JZ, and Gnukid, you clearly understand Doctors much more qualified to provide reliable information of the effectiveness of Ivermectin than old woke’s who always drink the koolaid passed around by the media “experts”.

[Edited on 2-20-2022 by LancairDriver]

Glidergeek - 2-20-2022 at 10:25 AM

I gave my Son (38 y/o) hydroxychloroquine in the early stages of covid last thanksgiving and also ivermectin. They were both ineffective. He ended up in the hospital about 7 days into it with pneumonia and his Dr. treated it with remdesivir it was effective and he was out in 5 days. He's full recovered.

surfhat - 2-20-2022 at 12:11 PM

Are you now choosing not to follow the hypocritical Rogan dis-ease?

Progress! We will have to take that as it comes, apparently.

The easier path to protection is none other than the proven vaccines.

The deniers deserve what they get. If their influence causes death, does anyone think they give a sheet?

And this mostly comes from those who chose to get vaccinated and then tries to influence others to not protect themselves.

The height of hypocracy astounds me. I would hope others would feel the same.

If not for yourselves alone, please try to consider others you may come across.

Our Baja friends deserve nothing less from us.

For all it is worth. Baja and its people is surely worth at least this much from us, whether we visit or live there.

Peace and love is reflected by each our individual actions.

What do you want to be known for in your position in relation to the people of Baja during the pandemic?

It is so clear to all but a few. Considering others is, or should be, primary.

The people of Baja deserve nothing less from us.



JZ - 2-20-2022 at 12:28 PM

The Queen has Covid. Good to see she is doing well.

“Buckingham Palace confirm that the queen has today tested positive for Covid,” the palace said in a statement. “Her Majesty is experiencing mild coldlike symptoms but expects to continue light duties at Windsor over the coming week."

Don Pisto - 2-20-2022 at 12:56 PM

back in the green tomorrow....although nothing will change.
https://ensenada.net/noticias/nota.php?id=67124&fbclid=I...

Glidergeek - 2-21-2022 at 07:53 AM

"The deniers deserve what they get. If their influence causes death, does anyone think they give a sheet?"

Nice

JDCanuck - 2-21-2022 at 08:19 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Glidergeek  
I gave my Son (38 y/o) hydroxychloroquine in the early stages of covid last thanksgiving and also ivermectin. They were both ineffective. He ended up in the hospital about 7 days into it with pneumonia and his Dr. treated it with remdesivir it was effective and he was out in 5 days. He's full recovered.


If I remember right, Remdesivir was one of the very first treatments that was suggested before the several Operation Warpspeed vaccines were developed. Glad to hear your son recovered through it's use. I'm still unaware of the full range of additional treatments that have worked so well in Europe, especially the several Scandinavian countries. Treatments in general over here still seem to be downplayed unfortunately.

JDCanuck - 2-21-2022 at 08:25 AM

The list of well known elderly people who have contracted the virus despite being double and triple vaccinated and then recover continues to grow. It would be extremely encouraging to know what special treatments they receive to get this high a recovery rate.

JDCanuck - 2-21-2022 at 08:41 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
The Queen has Covid. Good to see she is doing well.

“Buckingham Palace confirm that the queen has today tested positive for Covid,” the palace said in a statement. “Her Majesty is experiencing mild coldlike symptoms but expects to continue light duties at Windsor over the coming week."


I continue despite modern anti colonial thinking to admire the Queen as an admirable example of tolerance and common decency among a growing disrespect for people of her generation. Our basis in British law has been one of our greatest strengths over the centuries.

Glidergeek - 2-21-2022 at 08:51 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  
Quote: Originally posted by Glidergeek  
I gave my Son (38 y/o) hydroxychloroquine in the early stages of covid last thanksgiving and also ivermectin. They were both ineffective. He ended up in the hospital about 7 days into it with pneumonia and his Dr. treated it with remdesivir it was effective and he was out in 5 days. He's full recovered.


If I remember right, Remdesivir was one of the very first treatments that was suggested before the several Operation Warpspeed vaccines were developed. Glad to hear your son recovered through it's use. I'm still unaware of the full range of additional treatments that have worked so well in Europe, especially the several Scandinavian countries. Treatments in general over here still seem to be downplayed unfortunately.


Thanks

mtgoat666 - 2-21-2022 at 08:57 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Glidergeek  
I gave my Son (38 y/o) hydroxychloroquine in the early stages of covid last thanksgiving and also ivermectin. They were both ineffective. He ended up in the hospital about 7 days into it with pneumonia and his Dr. treated it with remdesivir it was effective and he was out in 5 days. He's full recovered.


It is concerning to think that people are treating serious diseases with unproven and disproven medicines based on what they hear on right wingnut talking heads like Joe Rogan, Trump and Hannity.
Next time your son gets sick, tell him to seek treatment from a reputable doctor! Do not seek treatment advice from right wingnut media! Glad to hear your son survived the ridiculous and poor treatment someone have him!

JZ - 2-21-2022 at 09:17 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by Glidergeek  
I gave my Son (38 y/o) hydroxychloroquine in the early stages of covid last thanksgiving and also ivermectin. They were both ineffective. He ended up in the hospital about 7 days into it with pneumonia and his Dr. treated it with remdesivir it was effective and he was out in 5 days. He's full recovered.


It is concerning to think that people are treating serious diseases with unproven and disproven medicines based on what they hear on right wingnut talking heads like Joe Rogan, Trump and Hannity.
Next time your son gets sick, tell him to seek treatment from a reputable doctor! Do not seek treatment advice from right wingnut media! Glad to hear your son survived the ridiculous and poor treatment someone have him!


You do know that Rogan supported Bernie Sanders, no?

mtgoat666 - 2-21-2022 at 10:46 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by Glidergeek  
I gave my Son (38 y/o) hydroxychloroquine in the early stages of covid last thanksgiving and also ivermectin. They were both ineffective. He ended up in the hospital about 7 days into it with pneumonia and his Dr. treated it with remdesivir it was effective and he was out in 5 days. He's full recovered.


It is concerning to think that people are treating serious diseases with unproven and disproven medicines based on what they hear on right wingnut talking heads like Joe Rogan, Trump and Hannity.
Next time your son gets sick, tell him to seek treatment from a reputable doctor! Do not seek treatment advice from right wingnut media! Glad to hear your son survived the ridiculous and poor treatment someone have him!


You do know that Rogan supported Bernie Sanders, no?


And now Rogan is infamous for his racism and covid misinformation.

JZ - 2-21-2022 at 12:35 PM

Well, he's from your party. Take it up with Nancy.

Bajaboy - 2-21-2022 at 12:50 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Well, he's from your party. Take it up with Nancy.


Naw, he saw the dollar signs that your pal Tucker, Hannity, and all the others on your side are chasing....easy money. Pander the culture wars, the invasion of dark skinned, and the attack on Christianity. Oh and don't forget to mention that they are coming for your guns once in awhile too:lol:

gnukid - 2-21-2022 at 07:30 PM

What a fraud, the USA has the highest death from diagnosis of covid positive which is predominantly from the treatment using Remdesevir and Intubation to harm patients.

caj13 - 2-22-2022 at 08:18 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
We came back in Oct 2021 at Mexicali west and was not asked. Just wanted to know how far down I went.

I did not realize you were a german citizen

BajaMama - 2-24-2022 at 09:40 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  
Border Patrol won't ask if you are a U.S citizen, but I believe if you are a foreigner you will be asked.


It is actually CBP (Customs) who is at the border crossing, and since you are an informed traveler, you must know that a passport is the document you present to the officer when you pull up to the booth. That document (or similar proof) is how he knows you are a U.S. citizen.
Before the passport requirement was initiated a few years ago, the officers ALWAYS asked (first) what country we were citizens of.


I was referring to a vaccine card, not a passport. Of course a passport is required to enter the US if you are a foreigner, but these days I believe foreigners must show proof of vaccination.

Alm - 2-24-2022 at 05:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  

If I remember right, Remdesivir was one of the very first treatments that was suggested before the several Operation Warpspeed vaccines were developed. Glad to hear your son recovered through it's use. I'm still unaware of the full range of additional treatments that have worked so well in Europe, especially the several Scandinavian countries. Treatments in general over here still seem to be downplayed unfortunately.

Wake up. Here in Canada it's "we" as the people who are being downplayed, not the treatments. Drugs in general are not as commonly available as in the US - for most any disease. Approvals come slowly and indications are more restrictive. To my observations, Canadian socialized healthcare is half-notch below similar Australian system and a good one notch below the UK. Remdesivir is available, same indications as in the US, don't remember since when. Regeneron has been approved but the availability is limited, ~30 times less shots are available per capita than in the US, you might not get one when you need it. Evusheld is not available in any of these 3 countries and unlikely will become available this year.

[Edited on 2-25-2022 by Alm]