BajaNomad

Baja needs more tourists!

4x4abc - 4-5-2022 at 07:54 PM

lets bring in a few million more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G6C-Z7fvbU

David Nuevo - 4-5-2022 at 08:47 PM

ICK! :mad: Maybe we can get la la policía to assign a special mordida patrol to cover them.

JZ - 4-5-2022 at 10:42 PM

Most of us on this board have enjoyed many of the activities in that video. And we can relate to it 100%.

We can also be sad that Baja is going to become more crowded and commercialized in the future.

But are we good ppl if we don't want the locals to prosper and other ppl to experience the same joys we have found in Baja?

The real problem is that the govt. in Baja doesn't have the ability to make the transition happen in an orderly way that benefits the most people in the future.



4x4abc - 4-6-2022 at 12:39 AM

how the locals "prosper"
100 bucks a week
10 hours a day - 6 days a week


work rates.png - 119kB

paranewbi - 4-6-2022 at 04:56 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
lets bring in a few million more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G6C-Z7fvbU


Early morning Santispac 1.31.2022

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mtgoat666 - 4-6-2022 at 06:15 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
lets bring in a few million more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G6C-Z7fvbU


Is there much difference between tourists like you that have been here for a while and the new tourist mexico needs to grow business?
Primary differences i can see are (1) you are older/retired, and new tourist will be younger and perhaps spend more money due to actively working, and (2) you happened to come to baja a bit earlier than later tourists, and you think earlier arrival qualifies to complain about late arrivees.

[Edited on 4-6-2022 by mtgoat666]

John Harper - 4-6-2022 at 07:08 AM

Here we go again. This time it's Ukrainians.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/06/us/ukraine-refugees-us-bo...

John

4x4abc - 4-6-2022 at 08:17 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


Is there much difference between tourists like you that have been here for a while and the new tourist mexico needs to grow business?
Primary differences i can see are (1) you are older/retired, and new tourist will be younger and perhaps spend more money due to actively working, and (2) you happened to come to baja a bit earlier than later tourists, and you think earlier arrival qualifies to complain about late arrivees.


no difference - tourist is tourist. It is an invasive species (in flora and fauna we know how to handle those).
I am not kidding myself - I am part of the problem.

Expats might even be worse than tourists.

Yes, both groups pump immense amounts of money into the country.
But most of it goes to people who have already more than enough.
The locals are not benefitting.
The opposite is true.
Gentrification makes their neighborhoods no longer affordable.

And I am not kidding myself about the future either.
Tourism will grow.
Investors make sure it does.
None of us will change that.

Now the next plague has arrived.
Remote workers.
With SF high end wages they are looking for houses with pool near the beach and strong wifi.
For $300 a months.

https://slate.com/technology/2021/11/digital-nomad-mexico-ci...

pacificobob - 4-6-2022 at 08:29 AM

In my 17 years as a resident i have seen various changes.
Local families i have known have prospered [materially] greatly. Are they better off with an improved house, a newer car?
Their happiness seems about the same.

4x4abc - 4-6-2022 at 09:42 AM

over the last 20 years the pay for workers has not changed from around $100 a week
many now drive new cars - you are right
but that is due to the fact that about 10 years ago cars were available on credit
average people in Mexico never had credit before

bajarich - 4-6-2022 at 10:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
lets bring in a few million more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G6C-Z7fvbU


Reminds me of Utah's "Mighty Five" ad campaign. Now you need reservations to get into Arches, and pretty soon it will be like that at all the attractions. Places where you used to have to yourself now look like an Amazon parking lot with all the Sprinter-like Vans.

Of course, then there's iOverlander.

pacificobob - 4-7-2022 at 07:00 AM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob  
In my 17 years as a resident i have seen various changes.
Local families i have known have prospered [materially] greatly.


To what do you attribute that?


I think it's a matter of higher paying jobs. Construction workers in san Jose del cabo used to make a lot more than todos santos for example. Now I think the wages are more similar. I find it likely that other factors exist as well.

Ateo - 4-7-2022 at 07:44 AM

All of these worries and anxieties can be solved with a little meditation. ;);););)