BajaNomad - Anyone else experience a Moon-set and Sunrise at the same time in Baja?

Anyone else experience a Moon-set and Sunrise at the same time in Baja?

JZ - 4-18-2022 at 10:51 PM

April 18, 2019 at Puerto Gato.

[Edited on 4-19-2022 by JZ]

larryC - 4-19-2022 at 07:09 AM

Your photo has me scratching my head. Usually on the day of a full moon the sun sets in the west at very nearly the same time as the moon rises in the east. Your photo seems to show them very much closer together than they should be. Interesting. Special lens or photo shop or? Anyway nice photo.

David K - 4-19-2022 at 07:21 AM

Seen from earth, the moon and sun are nearly identical in size, thus we have total eclipses. In JZ's photo, the "moon" is tiny compared to the sun.

[Edited on 4-19-2022 by David K]

AKgringo - 4-19-2022 at 07:59 AM

I have seen the same thing that LarryC describes, but not what your photo shows. Your camera is pointing east, so they would have to both be rising at the same time.

Do you happen to recall what the tide change was like that day?

[Edited on 4-19-2022 by AKgringo]

mtgoat666 - 4-19-2022 at 08:16 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

Anyone else experience a Moon-set and Sunrise at the same time in Baja?

April 18, 2019 at Puerto Gato.

Since a full moon occurs monthly, the better question is “anyone not experienced a Moon-set and Sunrise at the same time in Baja?”

your picture appears to misleadingly show a new moon, but is incorrectly showing that a new moon has appearance of full moon. It does not.

BornFisher - 4-19-2022 at 09:26 AM

Full moons rise at sunset. In this photo, there doesn`t appear enough separation.

JZ - 4-19-2022 at 10:19 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BornFisher

Full moons rise at sunset. In this photo, there doesn`t appear enough separation.

It was sunrise. Look at the moon phase for the day I listed in the op.

"If you have ever spotted a Full Moon just after sunrise or just before sunset, it is very likely that you saw it at least one day before or after the actual Full Moon phase. Very rarely, if the conditions are just right, you may also be able to see an actual Full Moon very close to the horizon and opposite to the Sun, during sunrise or sunset. In general, however, the Moon is always below the horizon while the Sun is up on the date of the Full Moon."

[Edited on 4-19-2022 by JZ]

Possibly a refraction phenomenon?

AKgringo - 4-19-2022 at 10:38 AM

I worked at Prudhoe Bay for three years, and during our period of 24/7 sunlight, we often had times when we could see over the horizon. I believe it was caused by layers of differing air temperatures and/or humidity, but sometimes we could see the processing facilities at Kuparuk, which would slip back below the horizon as conditions changed!

Sometimes it was an inverted image or reflection, and other times the buildings were upright but taller than reality, and other times they were just appeared to be much closer than they were.

4x4abc - 4-19-2022 at 11:27 AM

Quote: Originally posted by larryC

Your photo has me scratching my head. Usually on the day of a full moon the sun sets in the west at very nearly the same time as the moon rises in the east. Your photo seems to show them very much closer together than they should be. Interesting. Special lens or photo shop or? Anyway nice photo.

definition of full moon is that sun and moon are 180 degrees apart - earth in between them

4x4abc - 4-19-2022 at 11:29 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

April 18, 2019 at Puerto Gato.

[Edited on 4-19-2022 by JZ]

if the moon is that close to the sun it would be backlit (and not visible)

larryC - 4-19-2022 at 12:40 PM

I'm wondering if maybe that "moon" isn't really a reflection of the sun on an inner lens surface of your camera lens. What ever, its a good photo that shows the the impossible isn't always impossible.

BornFisher - 4-19-2022 at 03:42 PM

Full moons rise at sunset (or within 1 hour).
Full moons set at sunrise (or within 1 hour).
The moon and sun are on opposite sides of the horizon when the moon is full.
Yo no comprendo this pic!!
The moon should be behind you in this pic., and below the horizon.

[Edited on 4-19-2022 by BornFisher]

4x4abc - 4-19-2022 at 07:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BornFisher

Full moons rise at sunset (or within 1 hour).
Full moons set at sunrise (or within 1 hour).
The moon and sun are on opposite sides of the horizon when the moon is full.

[Edited on 4-19-2022 by BornFisher]

definition of full moon is that sun and moon are 180 degrees apart
that could be at 1 am in the morning
many hours after sunset
many hours before sunrise

it could be at 1 pm
many hours after sunrise

https://www.timeanddate.com/moon/phases/
many hours before sunset

JZ - 4-19-2022 at 08:06 PM

All I know is I pointed the camera and took the shot.

mtgoat666 - 4-19-2022 at 08:12 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ

All I know is I pointed the camera and took the shot.

Observe the sky every evening for a month, you may learn about moon phases.

BornFisher - 4-19-2022 at 10:41 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

Quote: Originally posted by BornFisher

That is a wonderful definition of a full moon. My definition of a full moon is, if the moon looks really big, it is full or nearly so. Hopefully, someone wouldn`t correct me and point out the moon is not full. It was actually full at (insert time here).

BajaTed - 4-20-2022 at 06:35 AM

When I look @ the Moon and ponder, I can't help but wonder how many others are doing the same :?:

AKgringo - 4-20-2022 at 06:46 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaTed

When I look @ the Moon and ponder, I can't help but wonder how many others are doing the same :?:

It sure beats staring at the sun!

4x4abc - 4-20-2022 at 07:12 AM

there is:
"Wow! That is unusual. I have to take a picture!"

and then there is
while checking your 200 pictures end of day you find one and say
"Wow. I did not see that."

shari - 4-21-2022 at 12:42 PM

its easy to see here in Bahia Asuncion up on the hill at the point...makes you dizzy imagining how fast we are spinning.