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Great sticker!

David K - 7-9-2022 at 06:52 AM

Just saw this on the Baja Overlanding Facebook group:



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chippy - 7-9-2022 at 08:30 AM

I like the sticker but they shouldn´t try to dictate the psi. I generally go down to 22 lbs for almost all my offroading with lower psi in really loose stuff. I run 36 psi on the pavement. These are 33 in. e rated tires.

4x4abc - 7-9-2022 at 09:05 AM

typical Republican sticker
simple solution for a complex task
one size fits all
science?
can't be trusted!

JZ - 7-9-2022 at 11:15 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
typical Republican sticker
simple solution for a complex task
one size fits all
science?
can't be trusted!


At least our trucks aren't identifying as Camry's.

mtgoat666 - 7-9-2022 at 11:29 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
typical Republican sticker
simple solution for a complex task
one size fits all
science?
can't be trusted!


Why would anyone put such a sticker on their car?

I have never understood why adults feel need to put messages on their car or t-shirts. No stranger wants to know what you think. Your friends and acquaintances probably already know what you think.


David K - 7-9-2022 at 11:55 AM

Wow Harald, are you and goat sleeping together? The sticker was not telling how much, just lower to what works and that can be 18 psi or lower.

In fact my tires and traction control allows my truck to float at 18 psi. Maybe that caught my eye?

RFClark - 7-9-2022 at 12:40 PM

A sticker about tire pressure is political! Right now there’s a fire burning north of Cabo is that political too! Conservatives burning witches at the stake perhaps?

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JZ - 7-9-2022 at 04:10 PM

Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
A sticker about tire pressure is political! Right now there’s a fire burning north of Cabo is that political too! Conservatives burning witches at the stake perhaps?



It appears the organization behind the sticker is for keeping OHV access open on their local beaches over the wishes of rich property owners and eco freaks who can't give up 5 miles of beach access in a thousand mile coastline.

I'm guessing that caused ppl in this thread to make the leap to suspect a certain freedom loving group that still knows what a woman is.


[Edited on 7-9-2022 by JZ]

AKgringo - 7-9-2022 at 04:19 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


Why would anyone put such a sticker on their car?

I have never understood why adults feel need to put messages on their car or t-shirts. No stranger wants to know what you think.



How about "If You Can Read This...You Are Too Close"?

RFClark - 7-9-2022 at 04:53 PM

JZ,

Those ppl are represented by leaders who can't follow instructions on a teleprompter or spell, perhaps not even read and who definitely slept through civics. (Or were in the can smoking joints!)

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Ateo - 7-9-2022 at 05:09 PM

This thread is perfect example of what's wrong with "social" interactions on the internet.

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

RFClark - 7-9-2022 at 05:14 PM

We could always bring back dawn, a choice of pistols and 20 paces!

pacificobob - 7-9-2022 at 06:46 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
typical Republican sticker
simple solution for a complex task
one size fits all
science?
can't be trusted!


At least our trucks aren't identifying as Camry's.


Is that the best ya got jiz?

RFClark - 7-9-2022 at 07:15 PM

Actually Harold should read some of OSHA’s work rules if he wants to see “One Size Fits All” madness! Then there’s the “Science” behind not being able to define a woman, while having a large body of law that directly applies to a woman!

Can’t be trusted does cover it!

mtgoat666 - 7-9-2022 at 07:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
…a certain freedom loving group that still knows what a woman is.


Aha! You mean the angry old white man party that hates transgender people!
Half pint: don’t be such a transphobe!





JZ - 7-9-2022 at 08:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

Aha! You mean the angry old white man party that hates transgender people!
Half pint: don’t be such a transphobe!



Remember meeting some really cool Brazilian trans in Paris back in 2003.

I encourage you to watch this. It's from your team.





[Edited on 7-10-2022 by JZ]

4x4abc - 7-9-2022 at 08:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  


Remember meeting some really cool Brazilian trans in Paris back in 2003.

I encourage you to watch this. It's from your team.






thank you for the video JZ!

helped me to blow away some of my anger

bajatrailrider - 7-9-2022 at 08:48 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Just saw this on the Baja Overlanding Facebook group:
Cool sticker David wonder what all the baja blow heads up set about . Just a sticker



RFClark - 7-9-2022 at 08:50 PM

Goat,

Pew Research says, “Democrats’ views also differ by race and ethnicity. Some 55% of black Democrats and 41% of Hispanic Democrats say a person’s gender is determined by their sex assigned at birth, a view shared by just 24% of white Democrats.”

So that old white guy party seems to have friends of color who agree with their values!

November is just around the corner!

mtgoat666 - 7-9-2022 at 09:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
Goat,

Pew Research says, “Democrats’ views also differ by race and ethnicity. Some 55% of black Democrats and 41% of Hispanic Democrats say a person’s gender is determined by their sex assigned at birth, a view shared by just 24% of white Democrats.”

So that old white guy party seems to have friends of color who agree with their values!

November is just around the corner!


While the right wing nuts of current Supreme Court apparently do not agree, the great thing about our constitution is the rights of the minority are protected from the tyranny of the majority.
You queer haters may be a majority, but hopefully usa will eventually stand up for minority rights.

clarkie: don’t be such a bigot. Your grandkids are embarrassed at your behaviour.

JZ - 7-9-2022 at 09:44 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


While the right wing nuts of current Supreme Court apparently do not agree, the great thing about our constitution is the rights of the minority are protected from the tyranny of the majority.
You queer haters may be a majority, but hopefully usa will eventually stand up for minority rights.

clarkie: don’t be such a bigot. Your grandkids are embarrassed at your behaviour.


I like/respect you, because at the end of the day I know you don't believe anything you post and are a master at what you do.



[Edited on 7-10-2022 by JZ]

RFClark - 7-9-2022 at 09:54 PM

Goat,

You have no clue, if you think that the majority of the Democrats of Color are bigots because they don’t agree with you drum them out of your party if they don’t leave on their own first that is!

No, the great thing about our constitution is that the rules are written down. Especially the 10th amendment which limits the scope of the federal government and its agencies as the Supreme Court has noted several times recently.

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

If you disagree with that amend the constitution if you have the votes!

JDCanuck - 7-9-2022 at 11:33 PM

Back to the 18 psi thing. Is this practically doable if you drive 16 miles of sand/rough road and then 70 miles of pavement to get to and from doctors' appointments? I'm going to need to find a convenient compromise here someplace. On 18 inch wheels carrying BFGoodrich AT tires, maybe 30 psi? What would be the minimum psi to drop down to without making the highway portion risk unacceptably high?

JZ - 7-9-2022 at 11:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  
Back to the 18 psi thing. Is this practically doable if you drive 16 miles of sand/rough road and then 70 miles of pavement to get to and from doctors' appointments? I'm going to need to find a convenient compromise here someplace. On 18 inch wheels carrying BFGoodrich AT tires, maybe 30 psi? What would be the minimum psi to drop down to without making the highway portion risk unacceptably high?


We run F load tires.

When towing we put them up to 70-85 psi.

Normal driving 60-65 psi.

On the dirt trails 35 psi.

In the sand 22 psi.

Emergency sand 15 psi.

JDCanuck - 7-10-2022 at 12:48 AM

Thanks JZ: Standard listed hiway pressure for these tires (T/A KO2 LT255/70R18 D on Canyon 35psi and max 65 according to what I read, so I will adjust accordingly when i need to in emergencies. Long way on pavement to an air service.


[Edited on 7-10-2022 by JDCanuck]

David K - 7-10-2022 at 03:07 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  
Thanks JZ: Standard listed hiway pressure for these tires (T/A KO2 LT255/70R18 D on Canyon 35psi and max 65 according to what I read, so I will adjust accordingly when i need to in emergencies. Long way on pavement to an air service.


[Edited on 7-10-2022 by JDCanuck]


You need a quick pump to refill. Do not run pavement underinflated.

John Harper - 7-10-2022 at 06:17 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  

You need a quick pump to refill. Do not run pavement underinflated.


I'm with DK on this.

A portable compressor is about $75. Lots less expensive than a visit to the ER if you have a low pressure blowout/rollover on pavement.

Just got back from Wyoming where I had to air down and air up several times. Only takes a few minutes. I have a Viair 85P, but others can suggest their choices. It's worked great for close to 7 years now. But, I take exceptional care of my gear.

20-22 psi on dirt, 34 psi on pavement seems to work for me. 235/75-15 tires.

John

[Edited on 7-10-2022 by John Harper]

4x4abc - 7-10-2022 at 06:17 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  


You need a quick pump to refill. Do not run pavement underinflated.


you can run highway underinflated as long as you want - but not at the speed you want.
You can only do that at a slow speed
but as far as you want
and as long as you want

4x4abc - 7-10-2022 at 06:21 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  
Back to the 18 psi thing. Is this practically doable if you drive 16 miles of sand/rough road and then 70 miles of pavement to get to and from doctors' appointments? I'm going to need to find a convenient compromise here someplace. On 18 inch wheels carrying BFGoodrich AT tires, maybe 30 psi? What would be the minimum psi to drop down to without making the highway portion risk unacceptably high?


on which vehicle (weight matters)?

mtgoat666 - 7-10-2022 at 06:43 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  


You need a quick pump to refill. Do not run pavement underinflated.


you can run highway underinflated as long as you want - but not at the speed you want.
You can only do that at a slow speed
but as far as you want
and as long as you want


Bad advice.
Inflate your tires properly for pavement driving.

mtgoat666 - 7-10-2022 at 06:49 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  
Back to the 18 psi thing. Is this practically doable if you drive 16 miles of sand/rough road and then 70 miles of pavement to get to and from doctors' appointments?


Not practical. Airing down is impractical for daily driving/commuting.
If you are traveling an unpaved road daily, the road should be maintained.
A maintained (even washboarded) road is driveable at normal street tire pressure.






[Edited on 7-10-2022 by mtgoat666]

bajatrailrider - 7-10-2022 at 07:34 AM

HAAA tree huger how would you know anything living in basement calif. People on off road here do know off road witch you know nothing. Do you thing anyone on listens to your bad wrong wrong tales. :?:

4x4abc - 7-10-2022 at 07:44 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  

Bad advice.
Inflate your tires properly for pavement driving.


by all means - if you have a compressor, air your tires back up to street pressure

my comment aims at people who had their compressor die (cheap compressors are very popular)
my point is - if you don't have anything to inflate your tires - don't give up
you can, without damage, drive to the next filling station at slow speeds

I ran Rubicon trail trips for 30 years
on the way back to Georgetown (40 miles) we almost never aired up from 10 psi
so, 40 miles pavement at max 40 mph will do no damage
minimum 10 trips a year for 30 years = no damage, no flat, no de-beat.

the negatives:
unstable in curves
stopping power more than doubles (your face in the steering wheel)

TMW - 7-10-2022 at 07:59 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
typical Republican sticker
simple solution for a complex task
one size fits all
science?
can't be trusted!


Why would anyone put such a sticker on their car?

I have never understood why adults feel need to put messages on their car or t-shirts. No stranger wants to know what you think. Your friends and acquaintances probably already know what you think.

I had a T shirt that said "The Older I get The Faster I was". I got a lot of comments from women.



JDCanuck - 7-10-2022 at 08:13 AM

Thanks Harald: A very well used GMC Canyon crew cab 4by4. As you understand my situation best, I am in agreement with you. I will deflate slightly to 30 psi for a moderate reduction from the 35 psi recommended for hiway pressure. Hopefully this reduces the overly stiff suspension shake a bit. I can deflate more if I run into exceptional trouble and then drive slowly to the first air service. The Canyon has been jacked 2 inches and the 15 inch wheels replaced with 18 inch wheels, so manufactured specs no longer apply.
I am not one of those guys trying to take those 60kph curves at 90 anyway. Life really is not that short that I need to save the 1-2 minutes getting to town.



[Edited on 7-10-2022 by JDCanuck]

4x4abc - 7-10-2022 at 08:29 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  
Thanks Harald: A very well used GMC Canyon crew cab 4by4. As you understand my situation best, I am in agreement with you. I will deflate slightly to 30 psi for a moderate reduction from the 35 psi recommended for hiway pressure. Hopefully this reduces the overly stiff suspension shake a bit. I can deflate more if I run into exceptional trouble and then drive slowly to the first air service.
I am not one of those guys trying to take those 60kph curves at 90 anyway. Life really is not that short that I need to save the 1-2 minutes getting to town.

[Edited on 7-10-2022 by JDCanuck]


30psi sounds good for a start

have you ever done a chalk test?
if not - do one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FabWgDAulGg&t=341s

I'll tell you after the test what to do with it

JDCanuck - 7-10-2022 at 08:31 AM

Chalk test...I will have to look into that when I get down there. Thanks and sounds like a good idea .

John Harper - 7-10-2022 at 10:06 AM

Nothing wrong with carrying a compressor and tire plug kit. I have helped quite a few others with flat tires. Plugged it for them and aired them up, and sent them on their way. I even found a tiny nail in one of my tires before I left for Wyoming. Plugged it in my garage rather than somewhere on the road or in the dirt.

John

JDCanuck - 7-10-2022 at 10:24 AM

Plug repair kit I have, as well as the cans of repair/reinflate mix. Compressor and those rescue boards JZ mentioned are on the list of things to add to the spares we carry. Thanks again everyone for coming up with all these suggestions, has been extremely helpful.

JZ - 7-10-2022 at 10:59 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  
Plug repair kit I have, as well as the cans of repair/reinflate mix. Compressor and those rescue boards JZ mentioned are on the list of things to add to the spares we carry. Thanks again everyone for coming up with all these suggestions, has been extremely helpful.


Compressor is a must have. Airing down gives you a much more comfortable ride in the dirt.

Get a set of 4 tire deflators. Makes airing down MUCH easier, especially on full size trucks.

I have these:
https://www.amazon.com/Staun-Automatic-Tire-Deflators-Standa...

You can get cheaper ones for $30 with excellent reviews on Amazon.


[Edited on 7-10-2022 by JZ]

David K - 7-10-2022 at 11:01 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  
Chalk test...I will have to look into that when I get down there. Thanks and sounds like a good idea .


My post with photos of the chalk test, from 10 years ago, on Tacoma World: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/chalk-test-dynapro-atm-a...

chippy - 7-10-2022 at 11:24 AM

I picked up one of these last year https://ezflate.com/products/ez-flate-hyperflex . It´s so easy now to deflate/inflate but there's no time for a beer :(. Super fast!!

[Edited on 7-10-2022 by chippy]

John Harper - 7-10-2022 at 11:59 AM

I found I can deflate my tires faster with just the end of a cheap pencil type gauge than when I used the deflators I purchased. The deflators worked, but I found I can do it manually much faster. I check it with a good/accurate dial gauge as it drops, takes just a second. I gave up on the digital gauge I use on my motorcycle (in the garage) as I could not read it with the sun overhead.

John

[Edited on 7-10-2022 by John Harper]

AKgringo - 7-10-2022 at 12:19 PM

I have occasionally used thorns through the sidewalls to achieve a lower pressure.

That is why I carry an inner tube in my emergency kit! Even a good tire shop cannot safely repair a sidewall, but any tire shop can pull the thorns and install the tube.

It beats the hell out of trying to find a matching tire when you are out away from the major towns!

Edit; Plugs are a great emergency fix to get you to a tire shop, but they can fail, especially on back roads or off road.

[Edited on 7-10-2022 by AKgringo]

David K - 7-10-2022 at 12:46 PM

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
I found I can deflate my tires faster with just the end of a cheap pencil type gauge than when I used the deflators I purchased. The deflators worked, but I found I can do it manually much faster. I check it with a good/accurate dial gauge as it drops, takes just a second. I gave up on the digital gauge I use on my motorcycle (in the garage) as I could not read it with the sun overhead.

John

[Edited on 7-10-2022 by John Harper]


Me too!
After a lifetime of using the cap on the end of a pen or small screwdriver to release the air, I got a set of devices to screw on and auto release the pressure.
As I said earlier, one of the four let out too much. The time savings even if that didn't happen were not much better than the couple minutes per tire to manually deflate using a small tool, sea shell, or ball point pen capped end.

bajatrailrider - 7-10-2022 at 12:55 PM

so again the village idiot lashes out:bounce::bounce: Poor David shows a picture of a sticker? You marooons are now on politics showing your old age . With nothing better in life Im going riding enough of you marooons:?:

SFandH - 7-10-2022 at 02:12 PM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
I have occasionally used thorns through the sidewalls to achieve a lower pressure.



That happened to me. I couldn't believe that I got a puncture on an all-terrain truck tire on a 3/4 ton pickup by driving over a plant. Only in Baja.

Slow leak though. Didn't notice the soft tire until the next morning and didn't find out about the cactus spine until I got to the tire shop.

bajatrailrider - 7-10-2022 at 03:17 PM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
I have occasionally used thorns through the sidewalls to achieve a lower pressure.

That is why I carry an inner tube in my emergency kit! Even a good tire shop cannot safely repair a sidewall, but any tire shop can pull the thorns and install the tube.

It beats the hell out of trying to find a matching tire when you are out away from the major towns!

Edit; Plugs are a great emergency fix to get you to a tire shop, but they can fail, especially on back roads or off road.

[Edited on 7-10-2022 by AKgringo]
My Luck with plugs different then yours AK . most all my tires have plugs driven off and on road . never a fail in 20 years even put plug in my SXS not a hole but tear. still working i just got lucky

John Harper - 7-10-2022 at 03:29 PM

I have not had a problem with plugs as a permanent fix.

John

AKgringo - 7-10-2022 at 04:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
I have not had a problem with plugs as a permanent fix.

John


I have to admit that I have only had one plug failure that I installed, and it was a manageable slow leak until I could get it fixed. My brother-in-law borrowed one of my vehicles and ruined one of the tires by hitting the road right after plugging and driving until the rim hit the pavement.

I have probably had several successful plugs replaced with permanent patches unnecessarily, but down in Baja I will continue doing that.

John Harper - 7-10-2022 at 04:50 PM

Nothing wrong with being sure of the fix by having it patched. I would do the same if I was detecting any failure of the plug.

John

David K - 7-10-2022 at 05:36 PM

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Nothing wrong with being sure of the fix by having it patched. I would do the same if I was detecting any failure of the plug.

John


I have made many sharp-rock-puncture repairs on Baja's graded roads, before wising up and lowering the pressure for them (to 20 psi from 34) which ended these kind of punctures! I had only lowered pressure for the beach, previously.

Anyway, for the rock or other-caused holes, I made the easy plug-kit repair on the spot, adding air with my MV-50 quick pump. Once back to El Rosario or where-ever, I had the tire repaired with a patch. When I get back to the U.S., Discount Tires usually then wants to replace the tire charging only for the % used, as I recall.

It has been ages since I bought a new set of tires! Since my last time driving to Baja was 2018 (in my truck) and that was about when I retired my business, too! I used to drive 100 miles or more a day, on average, driving to customers' homes to estimate, repair, or install irrigation systems... Now, my truck drives 100 miles a month, maybe!

Chup - 7-10-2022 at 07:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
typical Republican sticker
simple solution for a complex task
one size fits all
science?
can't be trusted!


Love IT:cool:

Chup - 7-10-2022 at 07:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Just saw this on the Baja Overlanding Facebook group:





Where do I send my 2 pesos to for some of these STEEEKERS?

JZ - 7-10-2022 at 07:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
I found I can deflate my tires faster with just the end of a cheap pencil type gauge than when I used the deflators I purchased. The deflators worked, but I found I can do it manually much faster. I check it with a good/accurate dial gauge as it drops, takes just a second. I gave up on the digital gauge I use on my motorcycle (in the garage) as I could not read it with the sun overhead.

John

[Edited on 7-10-2022 by John Harper]


You aren't doing it faster by hand on truck tires that hold 75 psi. Also fantastic for heavy duty trailer tires. Start 3 tires airing down in 15 seconds.




[Edited on 7-11-2022 by JZ]

bajatrailrider - 7-10-2022 at 08:44 PM

Little story for sxs guys of all the flats I got . On my SXS none of the tires patched. By the truck shop here worked and they do have good patches and glue. They recheck put tire in water new patch leaks. few guys here w razors report same deal tires patched other place. Rip patch off plug it done on my trucks Patch works good. I like air deflaters screw them on all 4 tires . Preset 16psi 33in tires normal 26psi. Truck warms up while I load it remove them leave. Mexican truck drivers something else . We are off road tractor trailer he gets front flat. The air tank on truck for brakes runs air hose fills tire with air. Tell me drive truck few feet he puts water on tire yells stop. Puts sheet metal screw in tire off we went whole day . Till he could get to tire shop:D