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Home water delivery

BajaKim - 7-12-2022 at 08:02 AM

Can anyone recommend a service for home delivery of purified water jugs?

David K - 7-12-2022 at 08:18 AM

Wouldn't your location be an important factor in getting an "good" answer?

Baja is about the length of California and Oregon combined.

Otherwise, I agree with 'lencho' as we have Sparketts home delivery and like it, here in San Diego County!

BajaKim - 7-12-2022 at 08:28 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Wouldn't your location be an important factor in getting an "good" answer?

Baja is about the length of California and Oregon combined.

Otherwise, I agree with 'lencho' as we have Sparketts home delivery and like it, here in San Diego County!

BajaKim - 7-12-2022 at 08:31 AM

Good point David K! Los Barriles area. Thank you

mtgoat666 - 7-12-2022 at 08:41 AM

Ask your neighbors.
Watch for delivery trucks, then chat them up.

SFandH - 7-12-2022 at 09:15 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaKim  
Can anyone recommend a service for home delivery of purified water jugs?


Go to the local purified water store (agua purificada) and ask them about delivery.

A "water jug" is called a garrafón. Typically 5 gallons.

David K - 7-12-2022 at 09:18 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaKim  
Good point David K! Los Barriles area. Thank you


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BajaKim - 7-12-2022 at 10:36 AM

Thank you!!

gnukid - 7-12-2022 at 10:46 AM

The water truck will pass your house daily playing a song with garçon jugs to exchange, usually about 12 pesos, ask neighbors.

tiotomasbcs - 7-12-2022 at 02:37 PM

Make sure to tip them well for carrying the heavy bottles up and into your house. Food deliveries, restaurants
and groceries too are new business in bcs. Some offer to shop for you at Costco...for a price$$.

Alm - 7-12-2022 at 05:43 PM

Unless you use RO water for things that most people don't, the frequency of refilling a garaphon or two is roughly the same as frequency of grocery shopping. Going to town, taking garaphones.

I found 3 gallon jugs to be much more manageable than 5 gallon ones.

windgrrl - 7-13-2022 at 06:59 PM

I don’t think there is a service that delivers bottled water in the big blue bottles in Los Barriles. These are sold and refilled at the Tienda Popular in Buena Vista.

You might try posting to the local Baja Pony Express bulletin:
https://www.thebajaponyexpress.com/wp/

…or posting on “Everything Los Barriles” on Facebook.

You might be able to make a private arrangement to have bottles delivered.

It is only the Gas Pasa truck that precedes is arrival with a musical announcement.

The smaller bottles available at grocery stores are more manageable, but recycling the containers may be a concern.


Don Pisto - 7-13-2022 at 07:22 PM

https://hourlesslife.com/los-barriles-baja/

"purificador el dorado" now I don't know anything about LB but up here norte where everyone's a crook:no: every couple of years one of the delivery guys get busted for filling the garrafon's out of a garden hose, who knows how often it happens? anyway have you considered an under sink RO system? I love mine.

Alm - 7-13-2022 at 07:37 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
I don't know anything about LB but up here norte where everyone's a crook:no: every couple of years one of the delivery guys get busted for filling the garrafon's out of a garden hose, who knows how often it happens? anyway have you considered an under sink RO system? I love mine.

If you want to do it right, do it yourself :). I just take empty 3 gal bottles when going to town for whatever my other needs might be. Can see the RO machine, they've been there for years if not decades.

windgrrl - 7-13-2022 at 08:34 PM

Purificada El Dorado in Los Barriles was closed indefinitely last season.

We have used a simple charcoal filter on the central town system with no problems for many years.

The water supply and infrastructure are overburdened and predicted to be more so as the area continues to boom with development.

Alm - 7-13-2022 at 09:09 PM

Activated carbon filters very little. All minerals, nitrates and bacteria go through. If there is no RO station in town, I would consider an under-sink system.

jedge42 - 7-13-2022 at 09:16 PM

Quote: Originally posted by windgrrl  

It is only the Gas Pasa truck that precedes is arrival with a musical announcement.


fwiw, the Gas Pasa truck that plays 'El gas ...' should be avoided at all costs ... Joaquin is a bandido ... not sure what the other options in LB are, but you should find one if you can ... that's just ... like ... my opinion, dude :)

jake

windgrrl - 7-14-2022 at 04:32 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Alm  
Activated carbon filters very little. All minerals, nitrates and bacteria go through. If there is no RO station in town, I would consider an under-sink system.


Depends on your filtration needs and water source quality. The filter I mentioned is used to trap a bit of sediment.

4x4abc - 7-14-2022 at 07:30 AM

the first stores for purified water in La Paz have closed - no water
water trucks (Pipas) no longer delivering in La Paz - no water

we are at the beginning of bad times

mtgoat666 - 7-14-2022 at 08:37 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
the first stores for purified water in La Paz have closed - no water
water trucks (Pipas) no longer delivering in La Paz - no water

we are at the beginning of bad times


Is the problem due to mechanical failure in 1 well? Or is problem due to overdrafting of aquifer resulting in well running dry? According to first article, it is the former.

https://www.eluniversal.com.mx/estados/se-agudiza-crisis-de-...

https://www.diarioelindependiente.mx/2022/07/inicia-cierre-d...

https://www.diarioelindependiente.mx/2022/07/a-punto-del-col...

[Edited on 7-14-2022 by mtgoat666]

pacificobob - 7-14-2022 at 08:42 AM

Under sink RO systems are cheap. Amazon has a lot of them.
Small systems are capable of 50 USG @day. I have had mine for years.

SFandH - 7-14-2022 at 08:49 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
the first stores for purified water in La Paz have closed - no water
water trucks (Pipas) no longer delivering in La Paz - no water

we are at the beginning of bad times


Is the problem due to mechanical failure in 1 well? Or is problem due to overdrafting of aquifer resulting in well running dry? According to first article, it is the former.

https://www.eluniversal.com.mx/estados/se-agudiza-crisis-de-...

https://www.diarioelindependiente.mx/2022/07/inicia-cierre-d...

https://www.diarioelindependiente.mx/2022/07/a-punto-del-col...

[Edited on 7-14-2022 by mtgoat666]


This article doesn't mention the cause but the last paragraph does say that the Coca-Cola bottling plant has its own private well. Mexico's favorite drink is in good supply. So that's good news.........

https://www.diarioelindependiente.mx/2022/07/inicia-cierre-d...

[Edited on 7-14-2022 by SFandH]

4x4abc - 7-14-2022 at 08:53 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


Is the problem due to mechanical failure in 1 well? Or is problem due to overdrafting of aquifer resulting in well running dry? According to first article, it is the former.

https://www.eluniversal.com.mx/estados/se-agudiza-crisis-de-...

https://www.diarioelindependiente.mx/2022/07/inicia-cierre-d...

https://www.diarioelindependiente.mx/2022/07/a-punto-del-col...

[Edited on 7-14-2022 by mtgoat666]


I have no knowledge of the cause(s)
whatever the water officials are publishing might or might not be true
the ones responsible tend to blame someone/something else
like all average politicians

fact is that parts of La Paz have no water
not intermittend - nada for weeks

mtgoat666 - 7-14-2022 at 08:54 AM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
the first stores for purified water in La Paz have closed - no water
water trucks (Pipas) no longer delivering in La Paz - no water

we are at the beginning of bad times


Is the problem due to mechanical failure in 1 well? Or is problem due to overdrafting of aquifer resulting in well running dry? According to first article, it is the former.

https://www.eluniversal.com.mx/estados/se-agudiza-crisis-de-...

https://www.diarioelindependiente.mx/2022/07/inicia-cierre-d...

https://www.diarioelindependiente.mx/2022/07/a-punto-del-col...

[Edited on 7-14-2022 by mtgoat666]


This article doesn't mention the cause but the last paragraph does say that the Coca-Cola bottling plant has its own private well. Mexico's favorite drink is in good supply. So that's good news.........

https://www.diarioelindependiente.mx/2022/07/inicia-cierre-d...

[Edited on 7-14-2022 by SFandH]


Article states only one well location and only certain neighborhoods are w/o water….

Any pacenos got some on the ground info on the matter?


AKgringo - 7-14-2022 at 08:54 AM

Harald, are places that have private wells losing their ground water?

Campestre Maranatha has two or three wells supplying their needs, but they are just a few feet above sea level, so going deeper to reach more water is not an option without installing a treatment system.

Don Pisto - 7-14-2022 at 08:59 AM

for the first time in a dozen years our well can't keep up and im having water trucked in, ensenada corridor area:(

SFandH - 7-14-2022 at 09:03 AM

I recently read a report written in 2019 by scientists at a university in BC saying that the aquifer that supplies Ensenada 30% of its water is being drained at twice its recharge rate. The vineyards in Valle de Guadalupe, between Ensenada and Tecate, draw irrigation water from the same aquifer.

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"Official reports made by the Comisión Nacional del Agua (CONAGUA) [29] in 2018 estimated that the annual water balance values of the aquifer are currently in a deficit. At the date the report was published, the average annual recharge was 18.8 million m3. However, the groundwater volume of concessions for extraction was 36.92 million m3; therefore, there is a deficit of approximately 18.22 million m3."

https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4441/11/8/1586/htm




[Edited on 7-14-2022 by SFandH]

4x4abc - 7-14-2022 at 10:31 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Harald, are places that have private wells losing their ground water?

Campestre Maranatha has two or three wells supplying their needs, but they are just a few feet above sea level, so going deeper to reach more water is not an option without installing a treatment system.


I have heard that some of the wells have turned salty

that is also a complaint about the water delivered by the Pipa trucks - salty

4x4abc - 7-14-2022 at 10:36 AM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
I recently read a report written in 2019 by scientists at a university in BC saying that the aquifer that supplies Ensenada 30% of its water is being drained at twice its recharge rate. The vineyards in Valle de Guadalupe, between Ensenada and Tecate, draw irrigation water from the same aquifer.

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"Official reports made by the Comisión Nacional del Agua (CONAGUA) [29] in 2018 estimated that the annual water balance values of the aquifer are currently in a deficit. At the date the report was published, the average annual recharge was 18.8 million m3. However, the groundwater volume of concessions for extraction was 36.92 million m3; therefore, there is a deficit of approximately 18.22 million m3."

https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4441/11/8/1586/htm




[Edited on 7-14-2022 by SFandH]


90% of the water in Baja (both states) goes to agriculture.
Those are established rights.
BIG money behind it.
They will not give up their water rights.

as always - less for the common folks.

Your condo/house in Baja may have been a bad idea

Cheers to all who laughed about Al Gore etc.
You are not changing reality by claiming it is a liberal hoax.

no need to bring up the palm tree again
some never learn

MAD MAX

Don Pisto - 7-14-2022 at 11:01 AM

https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/columnas/La-escasez-de-a...

SFandH - 7-14-2022 at 11:35 AM

Yup, anybody that has a house anywhere in Baja needs a backup water supply. A tank connected to the house plumbing with a pump controlled by a pressure switch to keep the system pressurized is the best. When the water is flowing, fill up.

Tijuana has had planned conservation outages where different sections of the city lose water supply for 24 hours on different days. It's all planned out and well publicized.

pauldavidmena - 7-15-2022 at 06:13 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
the first stores for purified water in La Paz have closed - no water
water trucks (Pipas) no longer delivering in La Paz - no water

we are at the beginning of bad times


Here is an article in BCS Noticias describing the closed purificadoras. It indeed sounds like a dire situation.

4x4abc - 7-15-2022 at 07:08 AM

not looking good in La Paz

no water in La Paz copy.jpg - 122kB

David K - 7-15-2022 at 07:25 AM

The land can only support so much.
People and animals migrate to find new land when the land they are in can no longer sustain them.
Baja is 'almost an island' yet people keep moving to it from the mainland or the north.

Fortunately, hurricane season is upon us and the annual rains are coming (hopefully). To support this many people on a long, skinny peninsula, full of farms and now cities, reservoirs and dams need to be built or seawater desalinization plants. A pipeline across the gulf from a Sinaloa river could be another option... Or, the masses can move back to the mainland or the north... Options are there.


4x4abc - 7-15-2022 at 07:35 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
The land can only support so much.
People and animals migrate to find new land when the land they are in can no longer sustain them.
Baja is 'almost an island' yet people keep moving to it from the mainland or the north.

Fortunately, hurricane season is upon us and the annual rains are coming (hopefully). To support this many people on a long, skinny peninsula, full of farms and now cities, reservoirs and dams need to be built or seawater desalinization plants. A pipeline across the gulf from a Sinaloa river could be another option... Or, the masses can move back to the mainland or the north... Options are there.



what a radical leftist view!

sounds like A Gore in his best years

David K - 7-15-2022 at 07:41 AM

Well, no, Al Gore peddled an idea that humans can change the climate and the polar ice would vanish (and he pocketed millions). I heard one of Al's (many) mansions he bought, was on the beach! Very odd if you believe the sea was rising and going to flood the coastal cities.

John Harper - 7-15-2022 at 07:44 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
To support this many people on a long, skinny peninsula, full of farms and now cities, reservoirs and dams need to be built or seawater desalinization plants. A pipeline across the gulf from a Sinaloa river could be another option.



what a radical leftist view!

sounds like A Gore in his best years


Who's going to pay for all this? The Mexican government?

But, isn't that SOCIALISM????

And, how did the corporate farms secure most the water rights? No corrupt practices involved, I'm sure.

John

mtgoat666 - 7-15-2022 at 07:47 AM

So what is the cause?
Did well run dry?
Or is it mechanical failure in well/pump system?


pacificobob - 7-15-2022 at 08:00 AM

Large worldwide human migration will be a component of our not to distant future.
Work, food and climate the motivation

pauldavidmena - 7-15-2022 at 11:11 AM

Based on this article in Diario El Independiente, it looks like the water trucks are no longer on strike, but the purificadoras remain shuddered.