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La Paz cruise ship terminal

4x4abc - 1-22-2023 at 08:22 AM

so it has been decided
La Paz will get a cruise ship terminal in Pichilingue

all commercial shipping at Puerto Pichilingue will move to a new port at San Juan de la Costa

the area around Pichilingue will be developed into a tourist attraction
city officials dream of a second Los Cabos

realtors and businesses are already salivating

baja-chris - 1-22-2023 at 08:58 AM

How's that cross baja yacht portage project coming along?
Or the transpeninsular railroad?

BTW, where cruise ships stop, crime starts.
Progress.

mtgoat666 - 1-22-2023 at 09:03 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

so it has been decided
La Paz will get a cruise ship terminal in Pichilingue

all commercial shipping at Puerto Pichilingue will move to a new port at San Juan de la Costa

the area around Pichilingue will be developed into a tourist attraction
city officials dream of a second Los Cabos

realtors and businesses are already salivating

Where is San Juan de la Costa?

4x4abc - 1-22-2023 at 09:13 AM

24.376737°, -110.690281°
San Juan de la Costa
Rofomex mine
Walmart fish farming
deep sea port

AKgringo - 1-22-2023 at 09:20 AM

San Juan de La Costa is where the nitrate mine loads ore. It is across the bay, north and west of Piqhilinque.

David K - 1-22-2023 at 09:22 AM

Gee goat, get a map! Free ones at www.vivabaja.com/maps

Scary photo at Venice, Harald. Can we say 'doctored' lol.

chippy - 1-22-2023 at 09:37 AM

I wonder if they will move the ferry terminal?

surfhat - 1-22-2023 at 09:48 AM

Cruise ships are floating petri dishes.

I must have a character flaw that ever taking a cruise ship is not on my radar.

If they could become more responsible in dealing with their 'leftovers' in all their forms than dumping it all offshore, maybe i would feel more of an attraction.

mtgoat666 - 1-22-2023 at 09:57 AM

Quote: Originally posted by surfhat

Cruise ships are floating petri dishes.

I must have a character flaw that ever taking a cruise ship is not on my radar.

If they could become more responsible in dealing with their 'leftovers' in all their forms than dumping it all offshore, maybe i would feel more of an attraction.

I generally am not a fan of cruise ships. But I have done two cruises and both were great: Alaska cruise, and river cruise on Danube.
It would never have occurred to me to do these trips, I only went as they were family trips. But I was pleasantly surprised.
Still, the cruises in the tropics and other high heat areas look horrible, and the larger the cruise ship, the less appealing….

mtgoat666 - 1-22-2023 at 10:03 AM

Quote: Originally posted by surfhat

Cruise ships are floating petri dishes.

Every indoor crowd and food service establishment is a potential mass-spreader event: airliners, restaurants, theatres, bars, cruise ships, casinos, parties, busses, trains, etc.

surfhat - 1-22-2023 at 10:05 AM

Alaska's inner passage would be the one on my list if I could be assured they observe and respect Mother Nature in every way they can by zero dumping anywhere.

Is there such a thing?

The crystal clean waterways up there deserve nothing less.

4x4abc - 1-22-2023 at 10:49 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Gee goat, get a map! Free ones at www.vivabaja.com/maps

Scary photo at Venice, Harald. Can we say 'doctored' lol.

not doctored - it is the currently largest cruise ship
Height, 72 m (236 ft 3 in) above water line
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_of_the_Seas

David K - 1-22-2023 at 11:06 AM

That ship photo is super-imposed on that Venice photo to look as big as the Death Star behind the city harbor. But, I don't disagree that cruise ship sizes are ridiculous!

wilderone - 1-22-2023 at 11:38 AM

"Alaska's inner passage would be the one on my list if I could be assured they observe and respect Mother Nature in every way they can by zero dumping anywhere."
There are hundreds of cruise ships, the Alaska state ferry, hundreds of fishing boats, etc. up and down the Inside Passage, and for quite some time. I have to assume there would be quite a "stink" from all concerned -- government, environmental, citizens, native cultures - if this were to occur. And it would be obvious to see a huge spill in these bays and channels. Just my opinion - but when taking the state ferry from Bellingham to Juneau, everything looked wonderfully clean. It's in their interest to keep it clean. I'm doing a 9-day in August - I'll keep this issue in mind.
As for La Paz, perhaps it would be a tender port. In Belize City the ships anchor way out to protect the environment. Retail and excursions will start smallish and grow. The Cabo ship port seemed reasonable to me (went Thanksgiving) in terms of what I'd expect to find. A few restaurants, but mostly small operators holding signs for day tours. I got a water taxi to the beach and spent the day ($5 RT).

4x4abc - 1-22-2023 at 11:39 AM

the Basilica San Marco dome height is 43 meters (141 ft)
Wonder of the Sea height is 72 m (236 ft 3 in) above water line
explain the "doctored"

I think it is "photo shopped."

AKgringo - 1-22-2023 at 11:56 AM

Follow the tree line from the left side of the photo. the last tree on the right appears to be between the ship and the camera pov.

If that is Venice, it would be interesting to find out if their port is even deep and wide enough to accommodate that ship.

wilderone - 1-22-2023 at 12:01 PM

I just did a quickie research inquiry about cruise ship trash (not dumping). Said most trash is disposed of at the ports where they start. However, Juneau accepted tons of garbage from cruise ships. Some of the cruise ship port fees go toward city infrastructure - so I'd think waste management might benefit from these fees. Research also said that cruise ships have incinerators to take care of a lot of trash, but that emissions reductions advocates made them cut down on fewer incinerators. As for La Paz, I would hope the city would take in millions of dollars to help with City infrastructure that benefits the cruise ship endeavor and citizens as well. I could work out well. Likely years away from fuition.

mtgoat666 - 1-22-2023 at 12:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Gee goat, get a map! Free ones at www.vivabaja.com/maps

Scary photo at Venice, Harald. Can we say 'doctored' lol.

not doctored - it is the currently largest cruise ship
Height, 72 m (236 ft 3 in) above water line
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_of_the_Seas

You old people will believe any picture if you see it on the internet. I have news for you, Mr 4, the internet is full of misinformation and faked photos, and you have been suckered by one.

David K - 1-22-2023 at 12:34 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

the Basilica San Marco dome height is 43 meters (141 ft)
Wonder of the Sea height is 72 m (236 ft 3 in) above water line
explain the "doctored"

The two are not side by side, the ship is behind, far behind the dome.

Look at the bottom of the ship's bow. It is behind the trees way in the distance, outside the Venice lagoon/harbor, in the Adriatic Sea. Even goat sees it and his eyes are slotted! :lol:

mtgoat666 - 1-22-2023 at 01:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

the Basilica San Marco dome height is 43 meters (141 ft)
Wonder of the Sea height is 72 m (236 ft 3 in) above water line
explain the "doctored"

In what world do you think it is ok to refer to my Asian eyes as a negative? You maga types just can’t control your racism, eh?

BornFisher - 1-22-2023 at 01:14 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

so it has been decided
La Paz will get a cruise ship terminal in Pichilingue

La Paz HAS a cruise ship terminal in Pichilinge. And no tenders are necessary, you walk off your ship. Nice, small facility, taxi to Tecolote is $25. Buses to town were free so not many cruisers at Tecolote jaja!

mtgoat666 - 1-22-2023 at 01:26 PM

Cruise ships getting too big

Cruise ships no longer fit in the ports of Los Cabos, La Paz, Puerto Vallarta, Ensenada, Mazatlán

https://mexicodailypost.com/2022/02/25/cruise-ships-no-longe...

[Edited on 1-22-2023 by mtgoat666]

4x4abc - 1-22-2023 at 02:43 PM

more photoshop

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=AJOqlzUIHHyt-rUMrB9HrwIk...

[Edited on 1-23-2023 by 4x4abc]

David K - 1-23-2023 at 06:06 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

more photoshop

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=AJOqlzUIHHyt-rUMrB9HrwIk...

[Edited on 1-23-2023 by 4x4abc]

Actually, those are mostly genuine photos...

RFClark - 1-23-2023 at 09:54 AM

La Paz needs a container port more than it needs a cruse ship dock!

Whiskey Witch - 1-24-2023 at 07:41 AM

Interesting article. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jul/09/us-cruis...