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no more overnight in San Ignacio

4x4abc - 4-2-2023 at 05:21 PM

I have seen occasional youtubers overnighting with their vans at the San Ignacio town square

no mas!

townspeople have just decided that they don't like that anymore

I wonder what the Sprinter crowd did to pee off the San Ignacio people

mtgoat666 - 4-2-2023 at 05:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
I have seen occasional youtubers overnighting with their vans at the San Ignacio town square

no mas!

townspeople have just decided that they don't like that anymore

I wonder what the Sprinter crowd did to pee off the San Ignacio people


In san diego, most communities dislike homeless parking their RVs on street overnight.

David K - 4-2-2023 at 05:43 PM

GOOD!
There are two nice campgrounds just before the town square and others closer to the river crossing.

KurtG - 4-2-2023 at 05:54 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
I have seen occasional youtubers overnighting with their vans at the San Ignacio town square

no mas!

townspeople have just decided that they don't like that anymore

I wonder what the Sprinter crowd did to pee off the San Ignacio people

If they can afford a Sprinter they can afford a campground or just go out into the desert. I just can't imagine the mindset that says its ok to set up camp in the town square. I've met some interesting good folk among the overlander crowd but there are also some insufferable self centered jerks with a great sense of entitlement.

A while back a buddy and I agreed that while the old Baja crowd from 40-50 years ago may have been a little rough around the edges we generally preferred them to many, but certainly not all, that we meet these days.

Or maybe I'm just an old guy with "get off my lawn!' syndrome.

Bajazly - 4-2-2023 at 06:30 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
I have seen occasional youtubers overnighting with their vans at the San Ignacio town square

no mas!



Good!! Every time I see a sprinter over priced entitled piece of crap van come thru town I throw up in my mouth a little bit.

BornFisher - 4-2-2023 at 07:29 PM

San Ignacio plaza is not Walmart! I`m sure many locals would love to volunteer to deliver the dreaded midnight knock on the door!

Cancamo - 4-2-2023 at 07:57 PM

Kind of a plague these days, the Overlander sheep. Just add Starlink and there goes the neighborhood.
Now get off my lawn!

mtgoat666 - 4-2-2023 at 08:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by KurtG  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
I have seen occasional youtubers overnighting with their vans at the San Ignacio town square

no mas!

townspeople have just decided that they don't like that anymore

I wonder what the Sprinter crowd did to pee off the San Ignacio people

If they can afford a Sprinter they can afford a campground or just go out into the desert. I just can't imagine the mindset that says its ok to set up camp in the town square. I've met some interesting good folk among the overlander crowd but there are also some insufferable self centered jerks with a great sense of entitlement.

A while back a buddy and I agreed that while the old Baja crowd from 40-50 years ago may have been a little rough around the edges we generally preferred them to many, but certainly not all, that we meet these days.

Or maybe I'm just an old guy with "get off my lawn!' syndrome.


I know sprinter owners that travel extensively in their van and they hate “van lifers.” “Van lifers” give vans a bad name!

“Overlanders?” Stupid name for car campers!

Full disclosure, my car camping outfit is sleeping on the ground, cooking on the tailgate of my truck.

4x4abc - 4-3-2023 at 12:53 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Cancamo  
Kind of a plague these days, the Overlander sheep. Just add Starlink and there goes the neighborhood.
Now get off my lawn!


no Sprinter is complete without Starlink.

wilderone - 4-3-2023 at 07:34 AM

"townspeople have just decided that they don't like that anymore
I wonder what the Sprinter crowd did to pee off the San Ignacio people"

A blatant disrespect of the town. No situational awareness.
Good for San Ignacio. I hope there are "no overnight parking" signs all through town and local policia issuing tickets - good revenue source.

geoffff - 4-3-2023 at 12:07 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly  
Good!! Every time I see a sprinter over priced entitled piece of crap...

Are Sprinters really crap? I've only seen them from the outside, but I can certainly see the attraction of a van I could actually... stand up in.
[Edited on 4-3-2023 by lencho]


I keep looking at Sprinters (and Ford Transits) to replace my current geriatric van, but everything about them is built lightweight. Thin materials, smaller scale. I would break one way too soon. Too bad, because they are so common.

Most Sprinters out there, with their clean orange Maxtrax proudly displayed on the outside (where tree branches would rip them off if they actually went somewhere interesting) are just going for the look & feel of an "overlander" but can't get themselves much past gravel roads.

4x4abc - 4-3-2023 at 12:27 PM

Sprinter vans are the #1 choice for the surfer crowd - not only in Baja.

Lotsa room - good on gas.
very comfy!
it has replaced luxury limos in Hollywood

DO NOT leave pavement unless you have a raised 4WD version

AKgringo - 4-3-2023 at 02:52 PM

I read recently that Ford is going to discontinue sales of the Transit Connect van in the US after this year.

mtgoat666 - 4-3-2023 at 04:18 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  


DO NOT leave pavement unless you have a raised 4WD version


Friends bought a sprinter shell and gad a custom interior made. They got 2wd because it is lighter, and these rigs are more than adequate for unpaved roads on blm lands, etc. they carry mountain bikes and kayaks to leave the accessible roads…

They can get it plenty remote in 2wd, and lighter vehicle handles better, gets better mileage. The vans are too low and too big for leaving typical FS and BLM unpaved roads…

wiltonh - 4-3-2023 at 04:54 PM

I have seen at least 2 diesel Sprinters that have had Blue def issues in Southern Baja. It related to a recall for an electronic problem that could not be fixed down there. One was put on a trailer and hauled out and the other one drove from Cabo to San Diego with out shutting off the engine.

Once there is an issue they give you so many starts and then the system is locked up. A dealer in San Diego had the equipment to fix the issue.

Cliffy - 4-4-2023 at 10:19 AM

Straight 6 and 3 on the tree!! :-) :-)

AKgringo - 4-4-2023 at 10:30 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Cliffy  
Straight 6 and 3 on the tree!! :-) :-)


Cool....and do you need to double clutch to downshift to first gear?

sancho - 4-4-2023 at 01:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by KurtG  


A while back a buddy and I agreed that while the old Baja crowd from 40-50 years ago may have been a little rough around the edges we generally preferred them to many, but certainly not all, that we meet these days.









Weekly a new youtuber pops up, congratulating themselves
for finding the fmm office and sucessfully entering Baja.
Eating a taco in San Felipe and finding a spot to wedge in
at Conception Bay. Where do these 20 somethings get the
$150,000 + for a sprinter and not work for months,
grandma? Back in the day, a colemn tent, or a slidein truck
camper and a couple weeks off from the construction job
most had

surabi - 4-4-2023 at 03:22 PM

Quote: Originally posted by sancho  
Quote: Originally posted by KurtG  


A while back a buddy and I agreed that while the old Baja crowd from 40-50 years ago may have been a little rough around the edges we generally preferred them to many, but certainly not all, that we meet these days.









Weekly a new youtuber pops up, congratulating themselves
for finding the fmm office and sucessfully entering Baja.
Eating a taco in San Felipe and finding a spot to wedge in
at Conception Bay. Where do these 20 somethings get the
$150,000 + for a sprinter and not work for months,
grandma? Back in the day, a colemn tent, or a slidein truck
camper and a couple weeks off from the construction job
most had


They make money off their youtube subscribers. The ads that run on their youtube channels pay them so many cents per hit on their videos.

What I love is when they plunge to their deaths off some cliff, standing on the edge to get the perfect selfie.

4x4abc - 4-4-2023 at 06:45 PM

it's a glorious life with lotsa money on youtube
a few licks and the money is pouring in
or is it?
https://teachable.com/blog/how-much-does-youtube-pay#:~:text...

Cliffy - 4-5-2023 at 10:36 PM

AK
Yes and I even had a VW back in the early 60s that I had to do that to Had to go real high on the rpms and real slow to get it to drop in. VW didn't get a syncro first gear until about 65!!! I went lots of places on dirt/gravel roads with just a VW jack , a small army folding shovel and 2 6 ft long by 2 foot pieces of chain link fence material. Drop into a sand hole. jack it up. fill the hole and lay down the fence material Drop the car and drive away out of the hole. Worked every time. 4X4? We don't need no stinkin 4X4!

In a mid 60s Chevy panel van I could actually get it into reverse going 40 forward by dumping the clutch pulling on the parking brake to stop the rear wheels dropping the 3 on the tree into reverse gun the engine and release the parking brake. :-) We stopped in a cloud of tire smoke

shari - 4-7-2023 at 08:24 AM

Good for the fine folk of San Ignacio to address this growing problem of OHverlanders and VAn lifers who park in public places and neighbourhoods. Go camp outside of town dudes or in one of the lovely camps there.
In Guerrero Negro the ratas love that these expensive vehicles that are parking in areas close to town and are a target for theft. Campers have reported someone trying to break into their rig at night. Beware!

JDCanuck - 4-8-2023 at 07:14 PM

I am seeing more and more people going "homeless" buying some sort of travel van and spending 6 months a year south of Canada. The high unaffordable price of houses? A fully equipped Sprinter is really cheap compared to the 2 million plus alternative to buy a home in Vancouver. I wish them all the best. Imagine this scenario:
You raised a family, struggled to pay off a 65000 dollar home in Vancouver while working at Canadian Tire. Now the government has decided to tax your minimal retirement income because your home is worth 2 million plus. What do you do to survive on 3000 per month income? You sell, buy a travel unit, rent a space at a community campground 6 months a year, and travel south the other 6. Makes perfect sense to me. We have a whole new class of homeless people out there, the ones the government has taxed out of their lifetime savings.



[Edited on 4-9-2023 by JDCanuck]

surabi - 4-8-2023 at 09:01 PM

I read an article about there being a demographic of seniors who just live on cruise ships. They figured out it was cheaper to live on cruise ships, where the rooms, meals, entertainment, etc, are all included than to pay a mortgage or even if their house was paid off, property taxes, vehicle insurance, food, home maintenance, utilities, etc. They have developed a network of friends who all do this, too, so they have friends to hang with, play cards with, etc. And they get to see a lot of different places in the world without having to pay for hotels and flights.
Not something I'd be interested in, but I can see why some people would find it a nice lifestyle.

mtgoat666 - 4-8-2023 at 10:49 PM

Quote: Originally posted by surabi  
I read an article about there being a demographic of seniors who just live on cruise ships. They figured out it was cheaper to live on cruise ships, where the rooms, meals, entertainment, etc, are all included than to pay a mortgage or even if their house was paid off, property taxes, vehicle insurance, food, home maintenance, utilities, etc. They have developed a network of friends who all do this, too, so they have friends to hang with, play cards with, etc. And they get to see a lot of different places in the world without having to pay for hotels and flights.
Not something I'd be interested in, but I can see why some people would find it a nice lifestyle.


Assisted living? All-you-can-eat ice cream bar? Where do I sign up?!?!

Mulege Canuck - 4-9-2023 at 07:24 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
I have seen occasional youtubers overnighting with their vans at the San Ignacio town square

no mas!



Good!! Every time I see a sprinter over priced entitled piece of crap van come thru town I throw up in my mouth a little bit.


I have to agree with you on that one.

David K - 4-9-2023 at 07:46 AM

LOL, you guys are funny!

It is just an adaptation of the times.
First, it was Jeeps and Power Wagons.
Next, it was campers on 4WD pickup trucks.
Then, they built a paved highway and caravans of Airstreams and other travel trailers arrived.
Motorhomes were next, en-mass.
Now, we see the Mercedes Sprinter vans and an occasional Unimog.

What will the future look like... ??
Tesla motor coaches, but dead without enough charging stations or on fire with burning lithium batteries??
Maybe a train will take us to Baja... and we camp along the tracks, better still, locals will ferry us to their beaches and ranchos????

mtgoat666 - 4-9-2023 at 08:34 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Mulege Canuck  
Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly  
Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
I have seen occasional youtubers overnighting with their vans at the San Ignacio town square

no mas!



Good!! Every time I see a sprinter over priced entitled piece of crap van come thru town I throw up in my mouth a little bit.


I have to agree with you on that one.


‘Overpriced?’ ‘Entitled?’ Why the hate for sprinter vans? Nothing wrong with people buying nice vehicles. It’s their money, not your money. Y’all sound like a bunch of jealous children.

And if you are going to throw shade on expensive vehicles, throw some shade on big/shiny/new pickups, expensive SUVs, Raptors, etc. I see many gringos driving around in super-expensive late model 4x4s, while 99% of Mexicans drive cheap and/or old cars.

Wonder how many people hating on “overpriced” sprinters are themselves driving super-expensive vehicles relative to what Mexicans are driving.

[Edited on 4-9-2023 by mtgoat666]

KaceyJ - 4-9-2023 at 08:42 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  
I am seeing more and more people going "homeless" buying some sort of travel van and spending 6 months a year south of Canada. The high unaffordable price of houses? A fully equipped Sprinter is really cheap compared to the 2 million plus alternative to buy a home in Vancouver. I wish them all the best. Imagine this scenario:
You raised a family, struggled to pay off a 65000 dollar home in Vancouver while working at Canadian Tire. Now the government has decided to tax your minimal retirement income because your home is worth 2 million plus. What do you do to survive on 3000 per month income? You sell, buy a travel unit, rent a space at a community campground 6 months a year, and travel south the other 6. Makes perfect sense to me. We have a whole new class of homeless people out there, the ones the government has taxed out of their lifetime savings.


Or Inflated out of them

[Edited on 4-9-2023 by JDCanuck]


[Edited on 4-9-2023 by KaceyJ]

JDCanuck - 4-9-2023 at 12:04 PM

Quote: Originally posted by surabi  
I read an article about there being a demographic of seniors who just live on cruise ships. They figured out it was cheaper to live on cruise ships, where the rooms, meals, entertainment, etc, are all included than to pay a mortgage or even if their house was paid off, property taxes, vehicle insurance, food, home maintenance, utilities, etc. They have developed a network of friends who all do this, too, so they have friends to hang with, play cards with, etc. And they get to see a lot of different places in the world without having to pay for hotels and flights.
Not something I'd be interested in, but I can see why some people would find it a nice lifestyle.


Yes, that's another one they often use to avoid the high cost of seniors' 1 room batchelor suites in "ïndependent living". Comes with excellent food, medical services included, lots of social planning and events provided and you get to see the world in your final years at the same time. Reportedly far less cost than that overpriced one room suite with two meals per day and no medical, not to mention being locked away from any family or other visitors during covid.

BajaMama - 4-23-2023 at 07:24 AM

I think the point of the "sprinter haters" is that the owners park on the street and not in campgrounds where they belong. If a sprinter van parked in front of my house I'm not sure how comfortable I would feel. Walmart allows overnight parking, but not local businesses. As far as "where do these whipper snappers get the money for a Unimog?" They are techies from the Bay Area. No worries though, they are being laid off left and right. Soon a plethora of used sprinters and mogs will hit the market!

JDCanuck - 4-23-2023 at 07:56 AM

I don't see much difference in a self contained small van and the big semis that are also parked on streets while the drivers get some much needed sleep time. Residential is maybe not the best place longer term, I always assume its a visitor to the area and treat them like I would any other guest in our neighbourhood.
Much better than the growing number of tents in our city centers springing up everyplace i go (except Baja). Now there are a bunch of desperate people who can't cope with the inflationary pressures and unwillingness to provide basic health services our leaders have created.

David K - 4-23-2023 at 09:18 AM

Maybe the beef is more about these tourists, with money, not using the local businesses created for overnight visitors?

BajaMama - 4-24-2023 at 01:12 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Maybe the beef is more about these tourists, with money, not using the local businesses created for overnight visitors?


Exactly - that was my point. Go to a campground or hotel, eat in a restaurant if you're staying in town.

mtgoat666 - 4-24-2023 at 07:18 PM

Argentinian van lifers whining like spoiled children!

Turistas argentinos acusan que fueron sacados de Mulegé; no fue así, denuncian en redes

Mulegé, Baja California Sur (BCS). Genera diversas opiniones el video de una familia Argentina que se encontraba de visita en Mulegé, el cual fue titulado “Policía nos echa de la ciudad de México”, esto al no permitirles dejar su camioneta frente a la iglesia para poder pasar la noche; señalan internautas que no ocurrieron así las cosas.

En el video en cuestión —que ya cuenta con más de 102,400 reproducciones—, comparten su estadía por el pueblo de San Ignacio, donde visitaron diversos lugares, pero casi al finalizar el día, pretendían quedarse frente a la iglesia, sin embargo, un policía les hace saber que eso ya no es posible, pero los invita a otra zona (con costo) donde si pueden pasar la noche, algo que no les pareció y optaron por retirarse.

“Se complicó la tarde, teníamos anotado este punto para dormir, donde estamos estacionados, en frente de la iglesia, teníamos unos amigos que habían dormido y estábamos ya dispuestos a ponernos a ver que íbamos a almorzar y se acercó un señor y nos dijo que ya no se puede dormir más acá, que lo prohibieron, como que hay varios Airbnb parkings por la zona y medio que se habían quejado, no se puede más, así que evidentemente no se puede, no hay lugar ‘free’ (gratis) en todo el pueblo, nos toca seguir camino”, detallaron.

Si bien en los comentarios del video, que fue subido el 19 de abril, no se encontraron mensajes fuertes referentes al titular del mismo, fue gracias a otra publicación en Facebook donde detallan que no fueron echados, solo los invitaron a moverse a un lugar donde si está permitido quedarse.

“El detalle no fue así, como la youtuber dice (…) el detalle fue que cuando se quisieron quedar a dormir en la iglesia, en lo que es la plaza el policía les dijo que había airbnb parkings y que ya no estaba permitido dejarse dormir a la gente ahí, entonces fue la molestia de los youtubers.

“Se trata aquí de que el título que puso ahí, no lo ponga tan escandaloso, en San Ignacio se le trató de la mejor manera (…) agradecidos deberían de estar que en Baja California Sur los trataron con el corazón”, mencionó un medio local.

La cuenta “Creciendo en el Camino” cuenta con 97,600 suscriptores en YouTube y se trata de una familia conformado por la madre Jorgelina, el padre Diego y su hijo Tomás, quienes se han dedicado por 7 años a viajar por el mundo a bordo de su camioneta; desde hace un par de semanas que se encuentran en la península de Baja California.

https://www.bcsnoticias.mx/turistas-argentinos-acusan-que-fu...

And

https://youtu.be/3cWGp9cO47w



[Edited on 4-25-2023 by mtgoat666]

wilderone - 4-25-2023 at 08:55 AM

Pretty obnoxious of them of make a big deal out of that. Highlights their self-centeredness and disrespect where they are but a guest. Boo

The video of an Argentine family that was visiting Mulegé, which was titled "Police throw us out of Mexico City", generated diverse opinions, this by not allowing them to leave their truck in front of the church to spend the night; Internet users point out that things did not happen that way.
In the video in question —which already has more than 102,400 views—, they share their stay in the town of San Ignacio, where they visited various places, but almost at the end of the day, they intended to stay in front of the church, however, a police officer He lets them know that this is no longer possible, but he invites them to another area (at a cost) where they can spend the night, something they didn't think so and they chose to leave.
“The afternoon got complicated, we had written down this point to sleep, where we are parked, in front of the church, we had some friends who had slept and we were already ready to start to see that we were going to have lunch and a man came up and told us that You can no longer sleep here, they prohibited it, as there are several Airbnb parking lots in the area and a half that had complained, you can't anymore, so obviously you can't, there is no 'free' place in the whole town, we have to continue on our way ”, they detailed.
Although in the comments of the video, which was uploaded on April 19, no strong messages regarding the owner of the video were found, it was thanks to another publication on Facebook where they detail that they were not fired, they were only invited to move to a place where if you are allowed to stay.
"The detail was not like that, as the youtuber says (...) the detail was that when they wanted to sleep in the church, in what is the square, the police told them that there were airbnb parking lots and that it was no longer allowed to let them sleep to the people there, then it was the trouble of the youtubers.
"It is a question here that the title that he put there, does not make it so scandalous, in San Ignacio he was treated in the best way (...) they should be grateful that in Baja California Sur they treated them with their hearts," said a media outlet. local.

The account "Growing up on the Camino" has 97,600 subscribers on YouTube and is about a family made up of mother Jorgelina, father Diego and their son Tomás, who have spent 7 years traveling the world aboard their van; They have been in the Baja California peninsula for a couple of weeks.


surabi - 4-25-2023 at 10:16 AM

Seem to be a lot of people these days with a huge sense of entitlement. Here's a great takedown of a youtube "influencer" who tries to get free hotel stays.
https://www.boredpanda.com/social-media-influencer-hotel-fre...

wilderone - 4-25-2023 at 10:34 AM

Love the push-back. "industry" ?? These days Tripadvisor and website creators are all any establishment needs. Freeloaders should be shunned, and if they lash out, expose their self-important freeloading ways.

"As influencers united to defend their industry and condemn the business owner’s attitude, Mr. Stenson upped the ante by announcing a complete ban on influencers, saying that any that try to enter the premises and ask for free services would be “ejected.”

surabi - 4-25-2023 at 09:12 PM

As far as I can tell, the "influencer industry" is a euphemism for "Actually working for a living is SO lame."

pauldavidmena - 4-26-2023 at 06:30 AM

Quote: Originally posted by surabi  
As far as I can tell, the "influencer industry" is a euphemism for "Actually working for a living is SO lame."


I'm about a month away from retiring and only now I realize I picked the wrong career!

AKgringo - 4-26-2023 at 07:16 AM

I spent a couple of hours on the internet yesterday....where's my check?

SFandH - 4-26-2023 at 07:21 AM

Quote: Originally posted by pauldavidmena  


I'm about a month away from retiring........


Congratulations!! It's been 17 years for me and it's wonderful.

I soon discovered that I do nothing really well. :cool: