Clarkles:
You best remember that as an elderly person you are at high risk of serious covid respiratory disease…. You should still avoid licking door knobs!
Covid is not gone, article just today about risk of super-variant:
(CNN) In March, the White House reached out to about a dozen Covid-19 experts who are closely following the evolution of the coronavirus to ask a
simple question: What did they think were the chances of the world seeing a highly mutated variant, akin to Omicron, within the next two years?
The experts came up with a surprisingly narrow range of probabilities, between 5% and 30%, according to Dr. Eric Topol, founder and director of the
Scripps Research Translational Institute. He said the data was shared with him on the phone after he gave his own estimate of 15% to 20%.surabi - 5-6-2023 at 10:45 AM
So let's see if I have this right- when the WHO declared COVID a global health emergency and recommended vaccination, lockdowns and masking, you all
poo-pooed it, claimed it was a hoax designed to control everyone, but then when they say it's no longer considered a global health emergency, it's not
a hoax?
In other words, you only believe in what is said if it aligns with your own ideas.JDCanuck - 5-6-2023 at 11:05 AM
This is what WHO actually said when we were over 1 year into the pandemic and after Operation Warpspeed" produced the first immunity boosting
injections. Politicians of course, had their own "Science" on both sides
My fervent hope is never again do we fund "gain of function" studies that permit the release of even more deadly diseases. If my understanding is
correct, these were made illegal in the US during Obama's time due to the obvious dangers, and the studies went offshore as a result, Wuhan just
happened to be one of the largest.
[Edited on 5-6-2023 by JDCanuck]pauldavidmena - 5-6-2023 at 11:18 AM
So let's see if I have this right- when the WHO declared COVID a global health emergency and recommended vaccination, lockdowns and masking, you all
poo-pooed it, claimed it was a hoax designed to control everyone, but then when they say it's no longer considered a global health emergency, it's not
a hoax?
In other words, you only believe in what is said if it aligns with your own ideas.
He's being sarcastic. Cliffy - 5-6-2023 at 12:08 PM
Popcorn in hand as I'm going to watch this show develop for a while :-)JZ - 5-6-2023 at 12:14 PM
Went to 10 states during 2020. Half of them 3-4 times. Flew across country 3 times. Did a 4 day boating trip in Key West. Stayed ~40 nights in
hotels in 2020 starting in April. Went to our favorite restaurant once a week and the owner let us and a few others dine in.
Went to a two packed football stadiums in the Fall of 2020. Went skiing in Colorado in Jan 2021. Sent our kids out of state to go to in person
college.
Glad we didn't hide in the basement, double masked. This thing was handled so, so poorly. So many lies and false statements about the so call
"science."
[Edited on 5-6-2023 by JZ]surabi - 5-6-2023 at 01:41 PM
Went to 10 states during 2020. Half of them 3-4 times. Flew across country 3 times. Did a 4 day boating trip in Key West. Stayed ~40 nights in
hotels in 2020 starting April. Went to our favorite restaurant once a week and the owner let us eat in.
Went to a two packed football stadiums in the Fall of 2020. Went skiing in Colorado in Jan 2021.
Glad we didn't hide in the basement, double masked.
[Edited on 5-6-2023 by JZ]
No one hid in their basement, double masked. No one. Just another right-wing "Covid is a hoax" fabrication to denigrate those who cared about not
spreading a deadly contagious disease around.
And what is the first part of your post, a boast about your white privilege? Aw, you had to leave the state, travel to 10 states, fly across the
country 3 times, went on a 4 day boating trip, attended sports events and concerts, went skiing and ate out once a week. While half the country had no
work and were struggling to put food on the table, or were in the hospital on a ventilator or dying.
How incredibly tacky and tone deaf to boast about your white privilege while millions of people were suffering.JZ - 5-6-2023 at 02:18 PM
And what is the first part of your post, a boast about your white privilege? Aw, you had to leave the state, travel to 10 states, fly across the
country 3 times, went on a 4 day boating trip, attended sports events and concerts, went skiing and ate out once a week. While half the country had no
work and were struggling to put food on the table,
They were suffering because the idiots in charge took away their ability to work while they kept their cushy jobs and dined on $1,000/plate dinners
and sent their kids to private in-person schools while shuttering all the public schools.
The govt. officials should have protected the vulnerable while acknowledging the "science" that the risk to healthy people under 50 was exceedingly
low.
Instead of crushing people financially and setting children's education back 30+ years.
[Edited on 5-6-2023 by JZ]JZ - 5-6-2023 at 02:31 PM
Why do race baiters equate Hard Work with White Privilege?
Btw, my wife is Asian. During 2020 she went into her office from 9am to 7pm every single day, but for maybe 2 weeks in March.
[Edited on 5-6-2023 by JZ]surabi - 5-6-2023 at 03:22 PM
Why do race baiters equate Hard Work with White Privilege?
[Edited on 5-6-2023 by JZ]
No one has done that. And you have no idea what "hard work" is. Going to an office every day isn't "hard work". Hard work is roofing all day, carrying
materials up a ladder in the hot sun. Hard work is nannying someone else's kids all day, cleaning their house, doing their shopping and cooking their
meals, then having to go home to do the same thing for their own family and falling into bed exhausted every night.
Not only that, you oppose diversity hiring and diversity programs for university acceptance. That you refuse to understand that POC are at a
disadvantage in getting to even have a chance at the kind of work that would earn them enough money to be able to galavant all over the country having
fun without working, without those equal opportunity programs, is part of your white privilege mentality. As is bragging about how privileged you are.
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[Edited on 5-6-2023 by surabi]RFClark - 5-6-2023 at 06:56 PM
S,
MLK gave his life for the goal of all Americans being equal. “Diversity Programs” are set-asides based on the amount of pigment in someone’s
skin and/or which bathroom door they use! MLK would never have approved of such a program! Totally without regard to any ability they might possess.
Asian Americans including Japanese Americans (The Americans FDR locked up in concentration camps) are excluded from your Diversity Programs! I wonder
why that is? (Not!)
That said you are the one who doesn’t understand what makes a job hard. Try working for decades doing something you hate next to people you loath
because you can’t do anything else and you have bills to pay.
That is both hard and it will kill you!
Not only won’t physical exercise kill you (generally) many people pay money to perform physical exercise! It’s called going to the gym!surabi - 5-6-2023 at 07:20 PM
"Totally without regard to any ability they might possess."
Complete myth concocted by white people. You are apparently ignorant of the fact that minorities and women have been passed over for generations in
favor of men and whites who had less ability, education, and experience than they do. Diversity programs were designed to force workplaces and
institutions not to discriminate- to choose the best person for the job regardless of the color of their skin or their sex.
And how arrogant to think you know what MLK would have thought of it. I dare say he would have been dismayed to see that such programs are needed
because discrimination is still not only practiced, but escalating, so long after the civil rights movement came into being.
[Edited on 5-7-2023 by surabi]RFClark - 5-6-2023 at 07:53 PM
S,
I don’t need to dare to imagine. I can read the words on the subject from members of his family!
What Asians aren’r women and haven't been discriminated against? JZ - 5-6-2023 at 08:01 PM
Anyone want to post some statistics on success rates for 2nd generation immigrants who are Asia, Indian, and Black?
I'm pretty sure you'll find that America isn't near as racist as some ppl present it to be.
If you want America to be racist, keep calling people racist. The net effect will be that both sides will resent it and act the opposite of what you
hope. But the truth is, this is exactly what some folks want. They want America to be divided. JZ - 5-6-2023 at 08:21 PM
Back to Covid. For 2+ years I helped support two Mexican families on the mainland in Sonora.
They are boat captains. I have known them for almost 15 years. They couldn't work that much because the marinas were shut down at first and then the
clients were limited.
Got this photo on WhatsApp today from one of them.
I wonder how much hard work it is to put yourself through University, working on the side to cover expenses at various odd jobs, then shift into
starting your own business, dealing with the bureaucracy involved and putting in 60 to 80 hours a week while raising a family. Wasn't my path, but I
have watched others do it and admire their commitment. Or working at two jobs, both well below average wages to raise a family and try to give your
children a bit easier time than you had to success. This was the path I and a lot of my friends chose, most of them Eastern European immigrants and
fully embracing multiple nationalities now to be called racist and abusers, when they contributed far more in their lifetimes than average to the
growth of our economy over the last decades.
We seem to want to judge others based on our own built in prejudices and ignoring the obvious facts far too easily , racial or not.
Just my own humble observation.
[Edited on 5-7-2023 by JDCanuck]
I had a full time job and went to law school at night for 4 years. The last two years were 4 nights a week at school. Was married, two dogs, but
held off having kids. Had next to zero social life during that time.
Both of my parent died at the beginning of my 3rd year when I was 27. My parents were lower middle class.
My wife's story is very similar. She was born in Tokyo.
But now I'm some how White Privileged? The biggest privilege I had was my parents stayed together and gave me guidance. The nuclear family is so
important to a healthy society.
[Edited on 5-8-2023 by JZ]Cliffy - 5-8-2023 at 08:25 AM
My son has been a high school teacher for 20+ years
He says its all contained in the family unit
Those parents that participate in the kids education succeed
Those that skip Parent's Night fall by the wayside.
How many Asian parents participate in their kids education ?
Could that be why they succeed?
Black out of wedlock birth rate is over 70%
Why is that?
What is the consequence? surabi - 5-8-2023 at 09:12 AM
"Out of wedlock birth rate" ???
What an out-of-date mentality.
Officially getting married means you got a legal piece of paper. It has nothing to do with commitment or healthy family life. There are couples who
have been together for 40 years, without ever being officially married, and are totally committed to the relationship and raised children who are
model citizens.
And plenty of people who got married who have dysfunctional relationships and raise kids who end up being criminals.
Nothing about a marriage license confers responsible parenting status.
Then there are the "good" Christian fathers, pillars of the community, looking to all the world like the perfect nuclear family man, who has been
sexually abusing his daughter for years.
And lots of these guys- gets caught having plied a 19 year old intern with alcohol and having sex with her, then claims he's resigning to "spend more
time with his young family". Another "moral majority" right-wing Christian. https://www.rawstory.com/bryan-slaton-resigns/
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[Edited on 5-8-2023 by surabi]RFClark - 5-8-2023 at 07:22 PM
S,
What cliffy should have said is the single parent birthrate is 70%! The same statistic for Asian women is 12.6%!
One must wonder if that is why Asians are effectively banned from the race and gender set-asides even though they have been discriminated against in
the recent past.mtgoat666 - 5-8-2023 at 07:31 PM
You right wingnuts ramble on about social conditions of blacks, but you refuse to admit that CRT is true and systemic racism exists in the USA in
local, state and federal govt.
Perhaps you right wingnuts will see the light, admit racism is rampant in your party peers, and and admit affirmative action, systemic change and
reparations are required to fix the broken system and right the wrongs.RFClark - 5-8-2023 at 07:42 PM
Goat,
The Asians were ‘wronged” too, in fact if you recall the Supreme Court 14th amendment case that finally settled the “If you’re born here,
you’re a citizen here” issue featured an Asian as the plaintiff.
So why are they as a class different?surabi - 5-8-2023 at 08:10 PM
"What cliffy should have said is the single parent birthrate is 70%!"
Why? Because you also have ignorant, stereotyped, prejudiced notions about single parent households? Every single parent I know, both dads and moms,
and I've known lots, have raised wonderful, hard-working, successful kids, not a dead beat or criminal among them.
[Edited on 5-9-2023 by surabi]RFClark - 5-8-2023 at 08:26 PM
S,
Asians - 12.6% single parent births not 70% and they’re banned from the race and gender set-asides! You still haven't answered why!
They are the decedents of laborers who were sold by their own governments to those building the railroads after the civil war. Most were illiterate
in their own language and certainly in English. Before the great WW2 internment those in California were primarily gardeners, fisherman and farmers.
Yet just a generation or two later they don't qualify for free stuff from the Left.
So exactly why are they treated differently?JDCanuck - 5-8-2023 at 08:33 PM
The US Dept of Justice did a large study on this issue a few years back and came to these conclusions: https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/single-p...
A significant shift in social interventions came about in an attempt to help struggling families stay together.surabi - 5-8-2023 at 09:20 PM
First off, that study starts with a false premise of considering "single parent families" to be "fatherless", when there are also single dads raising
their kids, and furthermore, just because it's a "single parent household" does not mean the children are either "fatherless" or "motherless", it
simply means the parents don't live together. The kids may very well have strong, healthy relationships with the parent they don't live with all the
time. It also presumes that just because children live with one parent that they don't have strong male or female role models in their lives- which
could be a relative or adult friends. It also presumes that lesbian couples' children are at risk because there is no father, which is totally false
and prejudiced.
A study that starts out with erroneous presumptions isn't one I would consider to be unbiased and scientific.
[Edited on 5-9-2023 by surabi]surabi - 5-8-2023 at 09:23 PM
Asians - 12.6% single parent births not 70% and they’re banned from the race and gender set-asides! You still haven't answered why!
What does the single parent rate have to do with diversity programs? You are conflating 2 totally different issues.
As usual, cognitive dissonance from right wingers.
[Edited on 5-9-2023 by surabi]JDCanuck - 5-8-2023 at 09:35 PM
I think you misread that abstract Surabi; These were the conclusions of the attached study by the Dept of Justice, not the presumptions they began
with. I can only conclude that the vast majority of single parent families at the time were indeed absent a father rather than a mother. Perhaps this
is no longer the case. However, the vast majority of teachers, police and co-students questioned were evidently in agreement with the conclusions.
