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[*] posted on 3-30-2015 at 12:54 PM


which one is Arroyo Thule?



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[*] posted on 3-30-2015 at 01:28 PM


Tule is same as Jaquegel
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[*] posted on 3-30-2015 at 05:20 PM
Bad Hill


This area around Jaquegel sounds like the canyons south of Neal Johns' "Bad Hill". Real sharp hills for a canyon in that area.



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[*] posted on 3-30-2015 at 05:31 PM


Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
Tule is same as Jaquegel

Correct! Spelled Jaquejel as well.

1962:



1941:


1930:



1905 published 1919:
Here is where 'Tule' is used...






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[*] posted on 3-30-2015 at 05:54 PM
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Wow! That's a funny name!



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[*] posted on 3-30-2015 at 10:35 PM


OK amigos with sharp eyes on Google Earth, find the rock-pile so we can photograph it from the ground.

Here are the three best arroyos in my opinion based on the letter.

The top one is Arroyo B... PaulW hiked into it from the north and found an impassable waterfall between the long valley and Arroyo Grande.

The middle one is Arroyo A... TW and XRPhil found a small dam that may hinder entering the inner area.

The lower one is about the last option... ???





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[*] posted on 3-31-2015 at 12:16 AM


I vote for "A"



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[*] posted on 3-31-2015 at 08:18 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
I vote for "A"


Then it's settled!

I hope elbeau is looking hard in those canyons for a rock-pile! Do you all remember the Santa Isabel Mission search we did in 2011 down Arroyo el Volcan?

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Baja Nomads Searching for a Lost Mission and finding so much more!


One of the great things the Baja Internet does is bring us Baja nuts together on adventures. Baja is a land of mystery and adventure, and it doesn't take a lot of effort to drive a few hours and be in the middle of it all!

IT'S QUALITY, NOT QUANTITY of Baja trips you can have that makes the best memories.

A little over 3 years ago, with some satellite image hints provided by Baja Nomad member 'elbeau', we had a chance to search for one of the most famous LOST MISSIONs in Baja California, Santa Isabel!

No official record ever mentions it, but the legend was born following the quick round-up of all the Jesuit priests from the peninsula at the end of 1767 and their forced removal across the Sea of Cortez in February, 1768.

When the Spanish authorities found only impoverished churches and no gold, pearls or silver (other than altar pieces), it was deemed that the Jesuits received advanced warning of their removal and created one final secret mission to hide the treasures they must have collected in their 72 years on the California peninsula.... a mission named Santa Isabel.

Nomads dtbushpilot, XRPhlang, BAJACAT, bajalou, David K, El Vergel, TW (and his brother Bill) met up along the way and at the campsite location where the vehicles could go no further (Arroyo el Volcán, 2 miles from El Mármol, the onyx mine).

Please enjoy a first or repeat look at the many photos and story, and I hope it inspires you to seek an adventure in Baja, or at least dream of one at home!

SEE: Desert Adventure, Interesting Geology, The Lost Mission site, Barite and Onyx mines, a COLD water geyser, and much more...

PART 1: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=52696

PART 2: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=52735

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[*] posted on 3-31-2015 at 10:09 AM


Interesting landmark.
31 deg. 23' 42.57 N
115 deg. 12' 33.13" W
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[*] posted on 3-31-2015 at 04:57 PM


Quote: Originally posted by ehall  
Interesting landmark.
31º 23' 42.57" N
115º 12' 33.13" W


Edited the waypoint to plug into Google Earth. To get the degree symbol, Alt + 0186.

That's quite a survey cross... but not the cross or rock pile... but not far from where Walter parked the Model A!




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[*] posted on 3-31-2015 at 05:00 PM


Thanks, didn't know how to do the deg. Symbol. I have looked at Google Earth and bing maps till it felt like my eyes would bleed.
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Quote: Originally posted by ehall  
Thanks, didn't know how to do the deg. Symbol. I have looked at Google Earth and bing maps till it felt like my eyes would bleed.


Thank you for your interest and support of solving this decades long mystery!

Where are the TV crews... this has got to be as good as America Unearthed or the Superstition Mountain series!




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[*] posted on 3-31-2015 at 07:18 PM


Google Earth does not need any degrees etc
try this:

31 23 42.57 N, 115 12 33.13 W




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[*] posted on 3-31-2015 at 07:45 PM


In any case, that is not a grave-like pile of rocks... Thanks Harald for letting us know Google made it easy to look at waypoints.

Ken came by here tonight and we had a meal and discussed the weekend coming up...





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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 09:49 AM


This sounds like a great adventure. I really hope you are successful in finding the long lost rock pile!



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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 09:57 AM


I'll pay real money for someone to go build a fake Diaz rock-pile at one of their locations before they get there this weekend!

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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 10:06 AM


I would spot the fake from 100 yards away




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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 10:11 AM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
I would spot the fake from 100 yards away


Take it easy, I was just joking.:bounce::biggrin::bounce:
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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 11:59 AM


I was joking, too!



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[*] posted on 4-1-2015 at 04:27 PM


The Henderson discovered rocks had desert varnish on one side, indicating they were moved to the pile MANY years ago (400+ in this case).

Any fake rock piles would look freshly moved, not be coated with desert varnish, and this guy would not be under them...



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