BajaNomad - Is there a direct road from Agua verde to el secreto del mechudo

Is there a direct road from Agua verde to el secreto del mechudo

chrishaynesusa - 8-29-2024 at 10:02 PM

Looking for a few additional nights close to Agua verde that have few to no people.
does anyone know of a dirt road linking the two or points south?

[Edited on 8-30-2024 by chrishaynesusa]

David K - 8-30-2024 at 07:53 AM

Have you looked at the satellite view for a road? On the INEGI topo map at/near your marker is a Rancho Santa Martha (you can see on satellite imagery: 25.4509, -111.0293 ). The ranch looks active, behind palm trees from a nice looking beach. However, I see no roads to it??!!

Harald, you got anything?

El secreto del mechudo

AKgringo - 8-30-2024 at 09:15 AM

That has an interesting translation to English! I have not explored the area south and west of Agua Verde, but it is on my bucket list.

Using Google earth I see trails of unknown level of difficulty, but none going directly to that beachfront. You might have to use a combination of trails and I.F.A. (I follow arroyos)

geoffff - 8-30-2024 at 09:53 AM

I don't see a way in. That looks like a wall of impassably steep slopes to the west. And north and south look pretty bad too. The nearest road is La Cumbre de Santa Martha, which is a house perched at the edge of cliffs.

4x4abc - 8-30-2024 at 06:06 PM

it is a super easy hike to Rancho Santa Marta
you can drive about the first 1/3 of the way

mtgoat666 - 8-30-2024 at 07:37 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

it is a super easy hike to Rancho Santa Marta
you can drive about the first 1/3 of the way

Looks like you can drive to SE from agua verde bay, in the arroyo, and get about half way to santa marta, then a 1.5 mi walk. Easy peasy. Backpack and beach umbrella, and you are all set for a day trip, or overnite.

Allwaters - 9-27-2024 at 08:57 PM

Quote: Originally posted by chrishaynesusa

Looking for a few additional nights close to Agua verde that have few to no people.
does anyone know of a dirt road linking the two or points
You can drive (4x4) thru town and thru the dump to the base of the cliff/old waterfall. Beyond that there are no roads back there. Skirt left and find the trail, and follow it thru in and out of different washes, there is animal traffic so just follow hoof prints... take plenty of drinking water.

4x4abc - 9-28-2024 at 08:10 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

3 miles from where you park your car
new gate at 25.483113°, -111.053058°
Rancho Santa Marta might not want visitors
they have always been very private

it was owned by Tim Means of Baja Expeditions
don't know whether his family or his company owns it after his death

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Means_(environmentalist)

surabi - 9-29-2024 at 11:47 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

Rancho Santa Marta might not want visitors
they have always been very private.

This reminds me of a Mexican trip I was on way back in the early 70's.

We were staying for a couple of months at a town on Lake Chapala, on the mainland. One day, a bunch of other young hippies my husband and I had become friendly with decided to spend the day going out to the countryside and taking some LSD one of them had. I think I was the only one who didn't take any- ingesting hallucinogens was something I had only done once before, and I wasn't comfortable doing with a lot of people, especially ones I didn't know that well, nor in a strange place I was not familiar with.

So there we were out in the countryside, people tripping, thinking we were all alone, when suddenly an old Mexican man appeared, was quite agitated, talking a million miles an hour. None of us spoke Spanish, aside from a bit of useful tourist words and phrases.

This was "ruining" peoples' LSD trip, and someone said "I wish he would go away". A few minutes later, as the old man carried on, a light when on in someone else's brain, who said, "Maybe it's his land".

Duh. We were so clueless and entitled it had never occurred to us that we couldn't just assume that we could go anywhere we wanted to, just because we weren't in someone's private fenced yard.

[Edited on 9-29-2024 by surabi]

JZ - 9-29-2024 at 11:52 AM

Quote: Originally posted by chrishaynesusa

Looking for a few additional nights close to Agua verde that have few to no people.
does anyone know of a dirt road linking the two or points south?

[Edited on 8-30-2024 by chrishaynesusa]

There are panga fishermen down in Agua Verde. I'm sure one will take you down the coast for a fee.

I've taken boats down there from Loreto to AV and beyond many times, but we always cruise right by that spot. Will have to check it out.

[Edited on 9-29-2024 by JZ]

mtgoat666 - 9-30-2024 at 11:59 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666

Is it maybe part of all the lands that christine walton gobbled up? Where is all that BCS land that walton bought, continues to buy?

roldanojr - 10-10-2024 at 09:40 AM

Hi Does someone know if there is a paved road from Loreto to Agua Verde?
I’m doing plans to go there on late January 2025.
Thank you

mjs - 10-10-2024 at 09:43 AM

Quote: Originally posted by roldanojr

Hi Does someone know if there is a paved road from Loreto to Agua Verde?
I’m doing plans to go there on late January 2025.
Thank you

Paved on top but was still dirt going down the hill as of last spring.

4x4abc - 10-10-2024 at 07:56 PM

paved for the first 10 km of the road - the remaining 30 km are dirt

David K - 10-11-2024 at 08:00 AM

This was the case in 2017, paved for the first 6.2 miles (10 km). I have seen videos showing improvements on the big grade with guard rails and some concrete paving.