chrishaynesusa
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Is there a direct road from Agua verde to el secreto del mechudo
Looking for a few additional nights close to Agua verde that have few to no people.
does anyone know of a dirt road linking the two or points south?
[Edited on 8-30-2024 by chrishaynesusa]
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David K
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Have you looked at the satellite view for a road? On the INEGI topo map at/near your marker is a Rancho Santa Martha (you can see on satellite
imagery: 25.4509, -111.0293 ). The ranch looks active, behind palm trees from a nice looking beach. However, I see no roads to it??!!
Harald, you got anything?
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El secreto del mechudo
That has an interesting translation to English! I have not explored the area south and west of Agua Verde, but it is on my bucket list.
Using Google earth I see trails of unknown level of difficulty, but none going directly to that beachfront. You might have to use a combination of
trails and I.F.A. (I follow arroyos)
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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I don't see a way in. That looks like a wall of impassably steep slopes to the west. And north and south look pretty bad too. The nearest road is La
Cumbre de Santa Martha, which is a house perched at the edge of cliffs.
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it is a super easy hike to Rancho Santa Marta
you can drive about the first 1/3 of the way
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Looks like you can drive to SE from agua verde bay, in the arroyo, and get about half way to santa marta, then a 1.5 mi walk. Easy peasy. Backpack and
beach umbrella, and you are all set for a day trip, or overnite.
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Quote: Originally posted by chrishaynesusa  | Looking for a few additional nights close to Agua verde that have few to no people.
does anyone know of a dirt road linking the two or points
You can drive (4x4) thru town and thru the dump to the base of the cliff/old waterfall. Beyond that there are no roads back there. Skirt left and find
the trail, and follow it thru in and out of different washes, there is animal traffic so just follow hoof prints... take plenty of drinking water.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
Looks like you can drive to SE from agua verde bay, in the arroyo, and get about half way to santa marta, then a 1.5 mi walk. Easy peasy. Backpack and
beach umbrella, and you are all set for a day trip, or overnite.
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3 miles from where you park your car
new gate at 25.483113°, -111.053058°
Rancho Santa Marta might not want visitors
they have always been very private
it was owned by Tim Means of Baja Expeditions
don't know whether his family or his company owns it after his death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Means_(environmentalist)
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This reminds me of a Mexican trip I was on way back in the early 70's.
We were staying for a couple of months at a town on Lake Chapala, on the mainland. One day, a bunch of other young hippies my husband and I had become
friendly with decided to spend the day going out to the countryside and taking some LSD one of them had. I think I was the only one who didn't take
any- ingesting hallucinogens was something I had only done once before, and I wasn't comfortable doing with a lot of people, especially ones I didn't
know that well, nor in a strange place I was not familiar with.
So there we were out in the countryside, people tripping, thinking we were all alone, when suddenly an old Mexican man appeared, was quite agitated,
talking a million miles an hour. None of us spoke Spanish, aside from a bit of useful tourist words and phrases.
This was "ruining" peoples' LSD trip, and someone said "I wish he would go away". A few minutes later, as the old man carried on, a light when on in
someone else's brain, who said, "Maybe it's his land".
Duh. We were so clueless and entitled it had never occurred to us that we couldn't just assume that we could go anywhere we wanted to, just because we
weren't in someone's private fenced yard.
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| Quote: Originally posted by chrishaynesusa | Looking for a few additional nights close to Agua verde that have few to no people.
does anyone know of a dirt road linking the two or points south?
[Edited on 8-30-2024 by chrishaynesusa] |
There are panga fishermen down in Agua Verde. I'm sure one will take you down the coast for a fee.
I've taken boats down there from Loreto to AV and beyond many times, but we always cruise right by that spot. Will have to check it out.
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | | Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 |
Looks like you can drive to SE from agua verde bay, in the arroyo, and get about half way to santa marta, then a 1.5 mi walk. Easy peasy. Backpack and
beach umbrella, and you are all set for a day trip, or overnite.
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3 miles from where you park your car
new gate at 25.483113°, -111.053058°
Rancho Santa Marta might not want visitors
they have always been very private
it was owned by Tim Means of Baja Expeditions
don't know whether his family or his company owns it after his death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Means_(environmentalist)
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Is it maybe part of all the lands that christine walton gobbled up? Where is all that BCS land that walton bought, continues to buy?
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Hi Does someone know if there is a paved road from Loreto to Agua Verde?
I’m doing plans to go there on late January 2025.
Thank you
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| Quote: Originally posted by roldanojr | Hi Does someone know if there is a paved road from Loreto to Agua Verde?
I’m doing plans to go there on late January 2025.
Thank you |
Paved on top but was still dirt going down the hill as of last spring.
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paved for the first 10 km of the road - the remaining 30 km are dirt
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David K
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This was the case in 2017, paved for the first 6.2 miles (10 km). I have seen videos showing improvements on the big grade with guard rails and some
concrete paving.
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