BajaNomad - SAN FELIPE NEWS?

I've been hearing about cartel trouble in San Felipe; crime, attacks, a 7:00pm curfew, etc. What's the consensus on risk if I get past town by mid-afternoon in 1 or 1 1/2 weeks? Gracias!

Ignore media, pay attention to State Dept. recommendations, relax. Worry about bad hombres on Mainland, not Baja.

Well that's not good to hear!

AKgringo - 12-26-2024 at 03:15 PM

I am in Calexico at the moment, and if the line isn't too bad at west crossing, I will be in Baja very shorty.

I don't have a phone plan that allows me to use a WIFI hot spot, so I will be checking for any updated info when I find another place to log in.

David K - 12-26-2024 at 03:26 PM

Something to do with the assassination of two people, the sons of a politician??

stillnbaja - 12-26-2024 at 04:03 PM

"San Felipe is simply NOT SAFE right now…
In light of the most recent wave of violence in San Felipe and only a minimum response from the local or state authorities, we feel it is our responsibility to speak out and advise our members to avoid travel to the San Felipe area for the time being.
There is a struggle for power in San Felipe right now between the Cartels and the government.
In recent days there have been a chain of violent attacks and homicides on private citizens in the area as well as a Cartel imposed curfew on the town under the threat of violence / death. In the video threat posted online, it also said that any taxis out circulating after dark would be stopped and burned.
The only official response from the local Municipal Government was an announcement of “increased patrols and checkpoints” while at the same time insisting that it is safe for tourists to travel to the port city on the Gulf of California.
State public security authorities have routinely been responsive when we have reached out to them with such concerns but have not responded to our recent concerns, possibly because of the timing in this Holiday Season.
Reviewing Spanish language social media for the local San Felipe area, the general population is taking this threat seriously, with the mostly barren streets at night in town evidence of their fear.
Living down here full-time for well over 2 decades has taught me to pay attention to what the locals say and do in such scenarios, especially in the void of a strong, official response.
OUR ADVICE
If you were planning to travel to the San Felipe area in the coming days, we recommend you delay those plans or consider an alternative itinerary to another region of the peninsula.
If you are already in San Felipe for a visit, consider your options and whether it makes sense to leave right now. If you stay, remain indoors as much as possible, especially after dark. There are transport options in town to get food/supplies safely delivered to your door if needed.
Please do not risk driving in San Felipe after dark right now, you should take the curfew threat seriously…"

this from Ron and posted on Gbay site by Dick Hansen

[Edited on 12-26-2024 by stillnbaja]

PaulW - 12-26-2024 at 05:43 PM

Last I heard 5 dead, all about the same time. Two los Arcos 2 in front of Alex House north of town. One location not listed.
Report is there is a 7Pm curfew in town

mtgoat666 - 12-26-2024 at 05:49 PM

So the curfew is imposed by cartel sicarios?
And is it sunset to sunrise?
What is the point of curfew, just simple terrorism? Or is there a demand that must be met before stopping curfew?

mtgoat666 - 12-26-2024 at 05:52 PM

"San Felipe is simply NOT SAFE right now…

this from Ron and posted on Gbay site by Dick Hansen

[Edited on 12-26-2024 by stillnbaja]

Who is ron? Who is hansen?

PaulW - 12-26-2024 at 06:00 PM

Some folks see lots of stuff on social media I just forward their comments.
I am delaying my return to SF for now.

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PaulW - 12-26-2024 at 06:10 PM

Fake report?
Here is the city response

Ayuntamiento de San Felipe

San Felipe, December 26, 2024 – In view of the recent rumors that have been circulating through various media and social networks, we inform the citizens that the announced curfew is NOT true. This information is completely FAKE.
We urge all residents of San Felipe to stay informed only through the official channels of the City Council and the relevant authorities.
We ask you to avoid spreading rumors and always check official sources.
Carefully,
Ayuntamiento de San Felipe.

stillnbaja - 12-26-2024 at 06:25 PM

"San Felipe is simply NOT SAFE right now…

this from Ron and posted on Gbay site by Dick Hansen

[Edited on 12-26-2024 by stillnbaja]

Who is ron? Who is hansen?

Ron hoff, you know "Baja gringo" Dick Hansen is a famous Baja off roader

surabi - 12-26-2024 at 06:32 PM

Worry about bad hombres on Mainland, not Baja.

??? I sure read a lot more accounts of random disappeared people and burnt-out vehicles in Baja than on the mainland. There's definitely hot spots to avoid on the mainland, but plenty of safe areas, too. Of course, very few places in the the world are guaranteed safe. You can be unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time anywhere.
And worrying is always pointless. Staying informed and keeping your wits about you, not doing dumb things like driving at night and changing your plans if it seems warranted.

[Edited on 12-27-2024 by surabi]

cupcake - 12-26-2024 at 06:36 PM

"San Felipe is simply NOT SAFE right now…

this from Ron and posted on Gbay site by Dick Hansen

[Edited on 12-26-2024 by stillnbaja]

Who is ron? Who is hansen?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/754786093504810/posts/916917...

You might be able to get some more info from this Facebook link.

mtgoat666 - 12-26-2024 at 07:36 PM

On TB some are advising that southbound travelers to bcs avoid the 5 and stick to the 1.
What say the nomad hive?

mtgoat666 - 12-26-2024 at 08:00 PM

Just surfed the san felipe social media….
A mess of misinfo…
Usual baja fanboys saying san felipe is safer than anywhere in usa… ya, sure, you betcha (world is full of idiots)…
Some telling 3rd hand stories of doom and gloom..
City govt saying the curfew is fake news…
No apparent truth visible…

mjs - 12-26-2024 at 08:10 PM

I was in town this morning. Seemed to be about normal activity level with stores and gas stations open. Did notice one taco stand closed that is normally open. Calimax was crowded. Police activity normal and no extra security at the military base. Plenty of RVs on the road.

Take this what it's worth tomorrow's a new day.

freediverbrian - 12-26-2024 at 08:48 PM

Since San Felipe separated from the Mexicali municipality it seems the violence has increased. Don't know if it's San Felipe police and leadership vs the cartel. Or cartel vs cartel. But it has increased. Very sad used to be a small quiet town no more.

[Edited on 12-27-2024 by freediverbrian]

pacificobob - 12-27-2024 at 08:00 AM

It doesn't take much for the gringos to commence the pearl clutching.

mtgoat666 - 12-27-2024 at 08:25 AM

Quote: Originally posted by pacificobob

It doesn't take much for the gringos to commence the pearl clutching.

Hey, if pearl clutching avoids being maimed or killed by sicarios, i am happy to clutch my pearls.

Lee - 12-27-2024 at 09:56 AM

Worry about bad hombres on Mainland, not Baja.

Yes to disappearances in Baja. Not aware of burned vehicles and hot spots in Baja. Where are they? (Places I avoid re cops: Mexicali, Tecate, TJ. Places I can't avoid re cops: CC

And, yes to areas to avoid on Mainland. No areas to avoid in Baja. Are there? (Well, I'd avoid TJ but that's me.)

surabi - 12-27-2024 at 01:52 PM

No areas to avoid in Baja? Isn't that exactly what this thread is about, an area to avoid in Baja?

Not aware of burned-out vehicles in Baja? Have you just missed all the threads on this forum talking about those incidents?

mtgoat666 - 12-27-2024 at 02:03 PM

Not aware of burned vehicles and hot spots in Baja. Where are they?

this post just told you of a hot spot to avid, San Felipe! Other hot spots to avoid: several neighborhoods in TJ, rosarito, rural areas around mexicali, much of mexicali, valle trinidad, clandestine pot farms (some of the valleys with permanent water flows), just about all rural areas after dark,...

re burned vehicles,... in the news periodically. there are frequent car jackings at night.

AKgringo - 12-27-2024 at 02:48 PM

On my way south from Mexicali yesterday, I observed at least a dozen or more police vehicles headed north in groups of three or four vehicles, and two military trucks with troops on board.

I pulled off the highway well north of San Felipe in a spot I have camped at before. It is well off the road, and the only fresh tracks were from animals.

I gassed up at the Pemex, and was going to shop at Calimax, but it was way overcrowded. I did a loop through town, intending to use the WIFI at a restraunt that I like, but it was closed.

Everything else seemed normal, but crowded. I notice quite a few police vehicles, but nothing that would normaly draw my attention.

I am at La Poma right now using their WIFI and having a delishous lunch. I don't need urban drama on my Baja trips!

surabi - 12-27-2024 at 04:48 PM

Burned out cars in Baja made the media years ago. 3 surfers killed and truck burned last Summer. Is that it?

Here's a recent one.

https://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=100907

I do agree about people asking "is it safe?" No one can guarantee anyone's safety anywhere. There are random acts of violence everywhere. And if other countries put out warnings about areas in the US with high rates of violent crime, no one would ever travel there.

A couple I know who had a small house in a bustling little Mexican tourist town told me their friends and family thought they were "so brave" to vacation in Mexico and told them "We pray for you every day you're there". Their friends were firmly convinced that tourists getting gunned down on the street is a daily occurance everywhere and that vacationing in Mexico is surely risking your life.

[Edited on 12-28-2024 by surabi]

freediverbrian - 12-27-2024 at 06:47 PM

For all the pearl grabbers, you are good. The info is there was a note note on the bodies with a drawing of a piece of pizza. "Piece of the pie" it is cartel. Extortion. Feel better now. ???? Still a chit reason.

[Edited on 12-28-2024 by freediverbrian]

mtgoat666 - 12-27-2024 at 07:25 PM

I dont see any of you tough guys reporting that you drove around downtown san felipe last night after curfew…

freediverbrian - 12-27-2024 at 08:03 PM

The curfew was reported by the mayor of San Felipe as fake news. Please goat go troll some where else.

mtgoat666 - 12-27-2024 at 08:16 PM

Quote: Originally posted by freediverbrian

The curfew was reported by the mayor of San Felipe as fake news. Please goat go troll some where else.

The video released on social media was cartel announcing curfew to be enforced by cartel.
The politician said this was fake news.
Who you gonna believe? Video creator of freediverbrian/mayor?

dutra - 12-28-2024 at 09:17 AM

Quote: Originally posted by freediverbrian

The curfew was reported by the mayor of San Felipe as fake news. Please goat go troll some where else.

The video released on social media was cartel announcing curfew to be enforced by cartel.
The politician said this was fake news.
Who you gonna believe? Video creator of freediverbrian/mayor?

Post the link for the video please

mtgoat666 - 12-28-2024 at 09:52 AM

Quote: Originally posted by freediverbrian

The curfew was reported by the mayor of San Felipe as fake news. Please goat go troll some where else.

The video released on social media was cartel announcing curfew to be enforced by cartel.
The politician said this was fake news.
Who you gonna believe? Video creator of freediverbrian/mayor?

Post the link for the video please

dont have the link. go to facebook talk baja and look for the recent san felipe thread. i also saw it posted in a few other FB san felipe news feeds.

dutra - 12-28-2024 at 10:10 AM

https://m.facebook.com/groups/TalkBaja/

I dont have facebook. Nothing on this at all about a video

baja-chris1 - 12-28-2024 at 11:33 AM

https://puntonorte.info/2024/12/26/ejecutan-a-joven-en-san-f...

dutra - 12-28-2024 at 11:41 AM

https://puntonorte.info/2024/12/26/ejecutan-a-joven-en-san-f...

Ok so no video?

baja-chris1 - 12-28-2024 at 11:42 AM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mexican-president-depar...

baja-chris1 - 12-28-2024 at 11:46 AM

Ok so no video? [/rquote]

Me? I never saw the video nor stated there was one and it was likely in spanish anyway which I would not have watched as I'm not fluent enough to follow a spanish video. I can barely read and communicate in spanish but I do try.

dutra - 12-28-2024 at 11:48 AM

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mexican-president-depar...

Ok so the video does not exist. I live close to Oakland, Richmond, and san Francisco. Murders happen daily. I just want to see the cartel threat video.

mtgoat666 - 12-28-2024 at 12:19 PM

https://www.facebook.com/reel/484613561314992

dutra - 12-28-2024 at 12:35 PM

https://www.facebook.com/reel/484613561314992

Thanks. I will see if my friend can see it on his facebook. The usual cartel websites have nothing on san felipe

mtgoat666 - 12-28-2024 at 12:43 PM

https://www.facebook.com/reel/484613561314992

Thanks. I will see if my friend can see it on his facebook. The usual cartel websites have nothing on san felipe

What are you smoking? The cartels dont run websites where they post their info.

https://podermx.tv/politica-sociedad/investigan-ola-de-homic...

Tioloco - 12-28-2024 at 12:45 PM

https://www.facebook.com/reel/484613561314992

Thanks. I will see if my friend can see it on his facebook. The usual cartel websites have nothing on san felipe

What are you smoking? The cartels dont run websites where they post their info.

https://podermx.tv/politica-sociedad/investigan-ola-de-homic...

Borderlandbeat

Noticiasdesanluisrc

etc etc

Lots of websites that pick up cartel violence but all of them miss a lot of stories. Unfortunately, there are too many cartel killings for any of the news sites to run all the stories.

[Edited on 12-28-2024 by Tioloco]

SFandH - 12-28-2024 at 12:57 PM

The video link works for me.

Here's where the image used in the video came from:
https://www.freepik.es/fotos-premium/rostro-hombre-encapucha...

I guess we should assume it's a real threat. Who knows?

Sounds like the business agreement between the drug runners and the local cops has broken down. I wonder how many drugs are offloaded from boats in San Felipe and driven up to the border, the "Tijuana Plaza."

I recommend folks drive through TJ.......................

[Edited on 12-28-2024 by SFandH]

surabi - 12-28-2024 at 01:43 PM

"Okay boomer" is a snotty, disrespectful phrase used by arrogant know-nothings who think they know more than people with far more life experience. Makes whoever uses the phrase sound like a 14 year old.

SFandH - 12-28-2024 at 02:12 PM

https://zetatijuana.com/2024/12/asesinan-a-dos-hijos-del-exd...

cupcake - 12-28-2024 at 05:31 PM

Murder in Oakland yesterday im scared

No need for you to be scared, youngen. Oakland has a population of over 430,000. Now, if you were in San Filipe with what has been reported this week, you might have cause for concern, as it has a population of only 17,000.

[Edited on 12-29-2024 by cupcake]

surfhat - 12-29-2024 at 10:43 AM

There appears to be some disrespect to those who have dedicated decades toward preserving the love of Baja that we all share in our ways on this forum and others.

The thought that comes to my mind is derived from a fellow Baja lover.

'Youth is wasted on the young'. I will also add, inexperienced. Time passed gives us all a perspective that is gained only through time spent.

Any shortsightedness should be forgivable. it is more than easy for me after fifty plus years to see what certain less time spent individuals need to open their minds to embrace.

Most of our respected elders on this forum have always been an enduring treasure deserving of respect and why I check in here every day.

Is that too much to ask?

cupcake - 12-29-2024 at 02:35 PM

https://podermx.tv/politica-sociedad/investigan-ola-de-homic...

Below is an English translation of the article linked by Goat. My appologies for any errors that there might be.

"MEXICALI. The Prosecutor for Crimes Against Life of the State Attorney General's Office, Miguel Ángel Gaxiola, commented that they are carrying out the relevant investigations in relation to the 4 homicides that recently occurred in San Felipe.

On Friday, December 20, Francisco Javier García Arce, 37, lost his life in the port. The deceased apparently has a criminal record for robbery and drug dealing. On the afternoon of December 24, the brothers Andrés and Alejandro Mandujano Ramírez, 50 and 42 years old respectively, were found dead and a message from a criminal group was placed on one of the bodies.

On the same day, Pablo Meza Lugo also lost his life by gunfire.

In this regard, the FGE official stated that so far they have no information that indicates that the events are related, in addition, he said that they are investigating to determine the motive for the homicides.

Finally, he explained that they work in coordination with the Secretary of the Navy, who has provided them with certain information. He also commented that they are investigating whether the attacks perpetrated correspond to a reaction to the security actions established in the municipality.

On the subject, Mayor José Luis Dagnino López expressed that before the acts of violence in the Municipality of San Felipe, there was coordination between the three levels of government that guarantees the tranquility of citizens.

Through social networks, he detailed that deployment of elements and units have been implemented, the installation of control points in strategic areas, in addition to the control center (C5) being active, working together to respond in a timely and effective manner to any situation that arises."

cupcake - 12-29-2024 at 02:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH

https://zetatijuana.com/2024/12/asesinan-a-dos-hijos-del-exd...

Below is an English translation of the article linked by SFandH. My apologies for any errors that there might be.

"On Christmas Eve, two brothers were murdered in the municipality of San Felipe, who, presumably, were children of the person who served as port delegate, whose last name is Mandujano.

The events occurred on the afternoon of December 24, when agents of the San Felipe municipal police, after receiving an anonymous report to the emergency numbers, went to a business located at kilometer 181.4 of federal highway number 5.

Upon arriving at the scene, the agents located the lifeless body of a man, covered with a colorful blanket. Additionally, on the side of the premises, they found the body of another subject, who was wearing a black sweatshirt and blue pants. The latter had gunshot wounds to the head, so the intervention of experts from the State Attorney General's Office was requested to begin the corresponding investigations.

The victims were identified as Andrés Mandujano Ramírez, 50 years old, and Alejandro Mandujano Ramírez, 42 years old. Last November, an armed attack was recorded in the same port of San Felipe, specifically at a home on Olmos Street, in the Los Arcos neighborhood. In that event, a 16-year-old minor and a 27-year-old man, identified as Pedro, lost their lives."

cupcake - 12-29-2024 at 03:19 PM

Both article translations are a combination of Google Translate and what I think the articles are saying. I have not added anything to the Google translation, but I have made a few deletions and changes of grammar.

David Nuevo - 12-30-2024 at 11:51 AM

I'm the "boomer" (77) who started this thread; I should mention that I have only 50 years of driving, camping, surfing, fishing and home-building in Baja and mainland Mexico. Gracias to those who have contributed useful information as I prepare to travel South on Sunday...yes, through S. Felipe.
To some of the other commenters: It seems that you were just lying in wait for a chance to ridicule us tribal elders and trot out the trendy "pearl-clutching" trope. Sorry you had to wait years for GPS coordinates, online weather forecasts, trip and road condition reports and the rest of the conveniences brought by social media before daring to cross the border. Have a nice day.

Bajazly - 12-30-2024 at 01:15 PM

David, things seem to have settled down now so I wouldn't give it a second thought.

For reference, a good friend of mine in town who matters here has not had much worry about all this from the start. If he had I would be nervous.

David Nuevo - 12-30-2024 at 01:20 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly

David, things seem to have settled down now so I wouldn't give it a second thought.

For reference, a good friend of mine in town who matters here has not had much worry about all this from the start. If he had I would be nervous.

Good to know...thanks!

David K - 12-30-2024 at 02:03 PM

I'm the "boomer" (77) who started this thread; I should mention that I have only 50 years of driving, camping, surfing, fishing and home-building in Baja and mainland Mexico. Gracias to those who have contributed useful information as I prepare to travel South on Sunday...yes, through S. Felipe.
To some of the other commenters: It seems that you were just lying in wait for a chance to ridicule us tribal elders and trot out the trendy "pearl-clutching" trope. Sorry you had to wait years for GPS coordinates, online weather forecasts, trip and road condition reports and the rest of the conveniences brought by social media before daring to cross the border. Have a nice day.

Pretty well said!
Thanks for saying it.
Happy New Year, from a younger boomer (67).

fishmaster - 12-31-2024 at 02:29 AM

Just drove through SF on 12/27. No problems. Nothing unusual. No extra military or police presence noticed. Travel in daylight (duh!!!) and all will be ok.

AKgringo - 12-31-2024 at 08:49 AM

As I stated earlier in this thread, the large police presence I noticed was headed back toward Mexicali on the 25th.

KurtG - 12-31-2024 at 02:58 PM

Pretty well said!
Thanks for saying it.
Happy New Year, from a younger boomer (67).

As one who is a couple years too old to be a Boomer I never hesitate to blame my slightly younger friends for anything that might offend me in the world they created. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it.

David Nuevo - 1-1-2025 at 07:52 AM

Quote: Originally posted by KurtG

Pretty well said!
Thanks for saying it.
Happy New Year, from a younger boomer (67).

I hear ya! The world will never run out of ways to annoy me.

bill erhardt - 1-1-2025 at 09:58 AM

Quote: Originally posted by KurtG

Pretty well said!
Thanks for saying it.
Happy New Year, from a younger boomer (67).

I hear ya! The world will never run out of ways to annoy me.

I'll drink to that.

AKgringo - 1-1-2025 at 10:20 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bill erhardt

Quote: Originally posted by KurtG

Pretty well said!
Thanks for saying it.
Happy New Year, from a younger boomer (67).

I hear ya! The world will never run out of ways to annoy me.

I'll drink to that.

That really annoys me! (just kidding)

mtgoat666 - 1-5-2025 at 05:31 PM

dont know the details, just reporting the reported highlights...

https://oem.com.mx/lavozdelafrontera/analisis/en-voz-baja-la...
Reports of:

tire-punctures (arrested in tecate a man who was caught with more than 400 "flat tires" devices)

woman who was chased on the highway to San Felipe by hooded men,

false checkpoint at Kilometer 86

car of former PRI candidate for governor, enrique acosta fregoso, driving on the toll road from Tecate to La Rumorosa when a rock hit the windshield of car, reportedly thrown.

[Edited on 1-6-2025 by mtgoat666]

bajadogs - 1-6-2025 at 09:52 AM

I stayed in San Felipe after a moto ride to La Ventana. It was beautiful, quiet and peaceful. I felt no intimidation at all. The Malecon was empty but I'm cool with that. I don't get the fear.

San-Felipe-Malecon.jpg - 121kB

baja-chris1 - 1-6-2025 at 01:18 PM

Well a policeman was assanated there yesterday. But I guess that's not intimidating nor reason to be fearful.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=562095699988960&...

baja-chris1 - 1-6-2025 at 01:21 PM

assassinated. Sorry for my typo.

surabi - 1-6-2025 at 02:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajadogs

It was beautiful, quiet and peaceful.

Lots of places are, until they're not. One's anecdotal experience doesn't negate reasons for people being fearful.

Baja Window

bajadogs - 1-6-2025 at 03:45 PM

Anecdotal for 40 years. I have more anxiety in Alta California than Baja. Not trying to pick a fight but when I see little girls and boys running around at sunset in "blah blah Mexican town" it reminds me of my youth. I guess I'm getting old. I've had bad days but there is always someone to help. Anecdotal is a great word so thanks for that. But I promise surabi, my experience has been positive and I've never felt fear when I'm south of the border towns.

Sorry to sidetrack.

Bajazly - 1-6-2025 at 06:22 PM

Still a checkpoint first stop sign after the arches going into town. Scary full garb military with machine guns, lots of them most days.

Hook - 1-6-2025 at 07:39 PM

MANY reports on TB from SF locals who have noticed an increased presence of Guardia Nacional and the military since the cartel video.

I guess the GN and the military are pearl-clutchers and boomers, too.......

Oh wait. it was all FAKE NEWS! They were duped as well!!!!

[Edited on 1-7-2025 by Hook]

cupcake - 1-6-2025 at 07:44 PM

Well a policeman was assanated there yesterday. But I guess that's not intimidating nor reason to be fearful.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=562095699988960&...

Translation of the headline and first paragraph:

San Felipe Citizen Report

COWARDLY ATTACK TAKES LIFE OF OFF-DUTY MUNICIPAL POLICE OFFICER

"A Municipal Police Officer who was heading home after finishing his shift was killed by unknown individuals on the night of Sunday, January 5, 2025.
The response of the police in the port was once again ineffective, since up to this moment there is no news of people detained in relation to the fatal attack."

This is someone posting on Facebook. I haven't yet found a report of this from a recognized news organization.

[Edited on 1-7-2025 by cupcake]

surabi - 1-6-2025 at 09:12 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajadogs

Anecdotal for 40 years. I have more anxiety in Alta California than Baja. Not trying to pick a fight but when I see little girls and boys running around at sunset in "blah blah Mexican town" it reminds me of my youth. I guess I'm getting old. I've had bad days but there is always someone to help. Anecdotal is a great word so thanks for that. But I promise surabi, my experience has been positive and I've never felt fear when I'm south of the border towns.

I have also had 95% positive experiences all over Mexico for 50 years. But when someone puts out warnings about an area because of recent bad events there, they are just trying to help others stay safe by being informed. It doesn't really add anything to the conversation for others to say "Oh, I was just there, it's fine" just because we didn't see or experience bad stuff there. And it's sort of a slap in the face to those who posted about crimes happening there.

Of course, that's different than correcting misinformation or unsubstantiated rumors that would scare people unnecessarily if we know for sure there's no truth to it.

[Edited on 1-7-2025 by surabi]

Lee - 1-7-2025 at 11:45 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajadogs

Consider the source. Anyone putting out ''warnings'' about ''bad events'' may or may not be a seasoned traveler. Info may or may not be first hand. I don't believe the media, FB, Talk Baja, LA Times, San Diego Tribune. I will believe Bajazly because he lives there.

Bad hombres breeze into San Felipe, shoot the place up, and are gone tomorrow. Safe/dangerous today? Opinions vary.

I've been stopped once in 60 years driving Baja. I expect to be stopped every time I'm on the road, though. Maybe it's luck but think luck can run out. I prepare for that mentally.

I've never felt fear in Baja. Concern, nervous, on guard, oh yeah.

I'd say for anyone who fears things, don't go South.

I stay outside of SF when there, and am not out at night.

https://casalavida.com

https://www.sandollarresort.com

Results vary, always. Take your chances. Be positive.

mtgoat666 - 1-7-2025 at 12:02 PM

Not sure what your msg is. If bad hombres are breezing into town to shoot up the place, then sounds like things are lawless anarchy, eh? Or maybe bajazly says they are only shooting blanks or rubber bullets?

surabi - 1-7-2025 at 12:06 PM

For sure, someone who actually lives in an area is a good person to listen to, unless they are one of those gringoes who speak no Spanish, so pass on gringo rumors, or think their gardener is a great source of accurate information.

I'd say that people who are easily fearful should not just not travel south, they should not leave home.

. I find it weird that people go out and about in their own hometown up north without fear even if some violent incident took place there, yet are terrified to go somewhere in Mexico where the same thing took place.

stillnbaja - 1-7-2025 at 12:54 PM

For sure, someone who actually lives in an area is a good person to listen to, unless they are one of those gringoes who speak no Spanish, so pass on gringo rumors, or think their gardener is a great source of accurate information.

I'd say that people who are easily fearful should not just not travel south, they should not leave home.

if it takes an entourage of bodyguards to feel safe you might want to stay home.

mtgoat666 - 1-7-2025 at 01:12 PM

if it takes an entourage of bodyguards to feel safe you might want to stay home.

never got out at night! Anywhere! Vampires! Sicarios! werewolves!

AKgringo - 1-7-2025 at 04:47 PM

I am at Pete's Camp right now talking to some of the locals. No one seems too concerned about this issue.

Stormytama - 1-7-2025 at 06:34 PM

Lol I love these forums. I just canceled all my trips to san felipe, san quintin, bola, and la bocana. Baja is just cartel controlled its not safe. I hope I can get my deposits back :bounce:

Ha I hope you’re joking! :lol:

stillnbaja - 1-7-2025 at 06:48 PM

Lol I love these forums. I just canceled all my trips to san felipe, san quintin, bola, and la bocana. Baja is just cartel controlled its not safe.

some wish they had that option.......

mtgoat666 - 1-7-2025 at 08:23 PM

Lol I love these forums. I just canceled all my trips to san felipe, san quintin, bola, and la bocana. Baja is just cartel controlled its not safe.

some wish they had that option.......

This is a broken record with you guys. Those 3 surfers was a tragedy. Im just glad there are never murders at all in the states so just stay up here. Clutch those pearls and stay on your couch for your glory years. Im done with you boomers :lol:

Where are Kat Hammontre and Mary Ann Humfreville?

David K - 1-8-2025 at 07:40 AM

Where are Kat Hammontre and Mary Ann Humfreville?

Well said mtgoat, well said... :no:

Lee - 1-8-2025 at 10:06 AM

Lol I love these forums. I just canceled all my trips to san felipe, san quintin, bola, and la bocana. Baja is just cartel controlled its not safe.

some wish they had that option.......

Where are Kat Hammontre and Mary Ann Humfreville?

Cute. Enough people know where they are. Sarcasm, right?

PaulW - 1-8-2025 at 10:28 AM

More than a citizen report. Published here:

LA CRONICA Jan 6 9:53PM
Police officer killed after gunfire attack in San Felipe
Officer Germán Rubio Gaxiola died after receiving multiple bullet shots; authorities investigate the facts
A municipal police officer, identified as Germán Rubio Gaxiola, died early Monday after being shot in San Felipe.
The incident occurred on Sunday night on Estrella Marina Street, where multiple firearm detonations were reported near the "Emmanuel" grocery store.
The assault was reported at 11:09 p.m. by a witness, who called 911 and indicated the officer was injured inside his vehicle.
Surveillance cameras captured the presence of a white Ford Mustang and a white Toyota Celica speeding away from the scene.
Rubio Gaxiola was taken to San Felipe Community Hospital in critical condition by Red Cross paramedics; he had various injuries, including a fractured jaw and at least ten visible bullet strikes to his body.
However, at 00:05 hours, he was declared dead after a cardiac arrest, while being treated for gunshot wounds.
The site of the attack remained secured while the first investigations were carried out and it was the officer's wife who confirmed her identity.
Regarding these facts, the State Prosecutor General's Office was notified for investigations of the case, without immediately further information about the aggressors.

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Publishen

Quote: Originally posted by cupcake

Well a policeman was assanated there yesterday. But I guess that's not intimidating nor reason to be fearful.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=562095699988960&...

dutra - 1-8-2025 at 11:04 AM

Lol just love the censorship on these forums. What N-zi deleted my posts? Nothing was bad. Must have hurt a boomers feelings. I will continue to drive down Baja and dodge the cartel. You boomers just stay home and get those covid jabs. Stay home and save lives

cupcake - 1-8-2025 at 12:04 PM

I'd say that people who are easily fearful should not just not travel south, they should not leave home.

I try to get a feel for all the variables involved. Myself, I have no desire to go to San Felipe at this time, but if I did, I would be concerned about not getting caught in the crossfire of what is going on there recently (like the young US tourist who was killed in Mexico City not too many years ago when she was struck by gunfire intended for someone else). I would also be concerned about not wanting to be a victim of mistaken intension (like the young US tourist who was murdered in the Copper Canyon a few years ago because the drug people mistakenly thought he was exploring the possibility of moving into their territory).

If no more murders take place in San Felipe for the next 10 months, the per-capita murder rate there will be 35 per 100,000 / year (I know San Felipe has a population of only 17,000). Contrast that to Los Angeles, USA, where the per capita murder rate for all of 2023 was 8.4 per 100,000.

There are many more variables involved, but looking at these numbers, and knowing that most murders in Los Angeles, a large city, occur in areas that I don't frequent, while San Felipe is a comparatively small area, you can see why someone would be more concerned about going about San Felipe than Los Angeles, even though Los Angeles has many more murders in any given year than does San Felipe.

When it comes to risk management, I don't worry about what other travelers think of me. I follow my own compass, not easily swayed by the opinion of others.

[Edited on 1-8-2025 by cupcake]

cupcake - 1-8-2025 at 12:22 PM

Quote: Originally posted by PaulW

More than a citizen report. Published here:

LA CRONICA Jan 6 9:53PM
Police officer killed after gunfire attack in San Felipe

Thanks for posting the recognized news report ^^

Mulege Canuck - 1-8-2025 at 05:36 PM

I drove through San Felipe on Sunday. Lots of cops on the street with two check points. Just a gas stop for me but I would not stay there until things settle down.

surabi - 1-8-2025 at 05:47 PM

Lol just love the censorship on these forums. What N-zi deleted my posts?

You should study history. Deleting posts isn't part of a N-zi agenda.

mtgoat666 - 1-8-2025 at 07:44 PM

Lol just love the censorship on these forums. What N-zi deleted my posts? Nothing was bad. Must have hurt a boomers feelings. I will continue to drive down Baja and dodge the cartel. You boomers just stay home and get those covid jabs. Stay home and save lives

Not censorship. The publisher chooses to edit your screeds.

Lee - 1-8-2025 at 07:57 PM

Lol just love the censorship on these forums. What N-zi deleted my posts?

You should study history. Deleting posts isn't part of a N-zi agenda.

Here's an idea. Lighten up on calling forum moderators and The Man that bad word. Poor form. :lol:

surfhat - 1-9-2025 at 09:23 AM

Who is the N-zi? The moderator or the poster?

"Youth is wasted on the young" comes to mind.

dutra - 1-10-2025 at 06:44 PM

Lol you boomers crack me up. Oh, I just came across this. Mods you can delete since it doesnt spread mass fear.

https://ground.news/article/san-felipe-municipal-police-offi...

Stormytama - 1-10-2025 at 07:14 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho