MrBillM - 11-11-2005 at 12:49 PM
I found this on Fred Metcalf's board this a.m. regarding the loss of DirecTV ODD Transponders:
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Here is a definitive explanation of the loss of so many channels on DirecTV. This was published by DirecTV in response to questions from Los Cabos.
Insight into changes at DTV.
From what I can tell from these threads is that most, if not all of these people live down in Mexico. We do have lots of customers who have vacation
houses down there that can get our programming, but not legally. They are doing this on their own. In order to receive our signal, they need large
dishes, which have very narrow beam evens are located. In order to see the odds again, they will either need to repoint their dishes, or add a second
dish and an AB switch, one dish odd polawidths. On Oct 12, we moved programming from D1R and D2 to D8, all at 101, which was all of the odd
transponders, 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 21, 23, 25, 27, 29, & 31. The beam squint on D8 is tighter than it was on D1R or D2, so what most
likely happened, beacuse of the tighter beam width of their dishes, they can now only see one satellite, D1R, where the rity, second dish even
polarity. We do not remove transponders from our customers. This is not an issue in the US where we are using smaller dishes. This is not a DIRECTV
issue, but theirs.
comitan - 11-11-2005 at 06:37 PM
It was informative info did not need rep-ly, I personally I printed it out and gave it to my DTV neighbors, thanks, it was not welcomed by all. It
took away all their hope.
JZ - 11-11-2005 at 07:40 PM
Can someone re-state in english! Does this only impact users south of a certain point.
bajalou - 11-11-2005 at 11:26 PM
I thought it was pretty plain. DirTV doesn't support anything south of the USA. I think you can expect to loose the rest when they move to a new
satallite again.
"We do have lots of customers who have vacation houses down there that can get our programming, but not legally. "
Jack Swords - 11-12-2005 at 08:06 AM
Good info here:http://dbstvforum.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000235.html
see post from October 28. Looks like I have a 1.2 meter dish for sale in La Paz. Just going to use my XM radio unit for USA news. It still works in
Baja.
rpleger - 11-12-2005 at 08:19 AM
Thank You very much for the info......................
No Loss, Lou
MrBillM - 11-12-2005 at 10:06 AM
There is no reason for anyone to Lose ANY of their DirecTv stations. The release made that clear. They are simply on a different
satellite in a different position. Utilizing a larger dish or reaiming your existing dish allows you to bring in all of the channels. Even IF DTV
were to move other stations to differnet satellites, you could still reaim your dish to receive them. They won't be putting the majority of the
stations on Spotbeam Transponders because of the duplication required.
comitan - 11-12-2005 at 10:25 AM
Bill
It really sounded like you will need two dishes and an AB switch to get all of the channels, or possibly one large dish.
You May be Right
MrBillM - 11-12-2005 at 05:56 PM
The language used in reference to buying a larger dish doesn't appear to be a suggestion, but rather an acknowledgement of existing practice in Baja
Sur. A second dish would seem to be the most practical approach since reaiming the existing dish for different channels would get to be a pain. I do
it on my motorhome, but the antenna mast is right outside the door so it's not that much trouble.
I'm wondering why a combiner switch such as the SW21 wouldn't work rather than an A/B switch that you had to operate each time you switch feeds. ?
comitan - 11-12-2005 at 06:07 PM
Did a little research it looks like the way to go.
http://ethnicsatellite.com/os/catalog/product_info.php?produ...
Bob and Susan - 11-12-2005 at 06:28 PM
when you said AB switch I laughed...
I just got a ribbing from my kid about this last week
...AB switch with a printer.
AB switches are OLD SCHOOL!!!!
This SW21 Switch is the way to go..Auotmatic!!!
The last time I looked I thought you could get a cople of spotbeam local channels with your service
Right now we don't pay for TV only the FREE stuff and Susan thinks I watch too much of that
[Edited on 11-13-2005 by Bob and Susan]
JZ - 11-12-2005 at 06:33 PM
So is this just impacting LA PAZ / Cabo, or also the Mulege area.
No impact has been reported in San Carlos which is roughly the same distance from the border as Mulege.
comitan - 11-12-2005 at 06:38 PM
I can only say La Paz and south.
Bob and Susan - 11-12-2005 at 06:43 PM
no one has complained in Mulege yet....
but I'm not allowed to watch TV there...YET!!!
SpotBeams
MrBillM - 11-12-2005 at 06:44 PM
You can buy access to local channels depending upon what city you're Billing is located, but down South it wouldn't do any good if they were on a
spotbeam transponder since that city's spotbeam is good for only a 150 mile radius around the focal point. With Dish Network L.A., NY, Denver and
Atlanta are still on NON Spotbeam feeds.
A couple of years back, during the glory days of Pirate TV, the local network feeds available on the receiver were staggering.
New York, Los Angeles, San Diego, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Dallas, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville, Raleigh-Durham, Boston, etc. It was glorious. I miss
those days, not to mention two years of MLB Pay channels with every game available. All gone now.
Bajabus - 11-13-2005 at 07:01 AM
I can tell you that a 1.8 meter in Cabo will not work. Trying to get a 2.4 mt down there but that is an expensive proposition for a test.