BajaNomad - Food For Thought

Food For Thought

longlegsinlapaz - 6-29-2006 at 11:05 AM

MY thoughts on BajaNomad site?........

It is a phenomenal site with an amazing wealth of information. I think that Doug did; and continues to do; a HUGE service to anyone interested in the Baja by creating & maintaining the site. I don?t think that some members realize or appreciate the amount of blood, sweat & tears that Doug puts into it. In MY opinion, the occasional thanks he gets is vastly diminished by a few people who are rude, abusive & disrespectful to people who post, and by extension, are rude & disrespectful to other members, as well as Doug. Does anyone honestly believe that Doug created the site as a forum for a few to be rude, offensive & abusive to many? Think of what the phrases ?Tarred with the same brush? & ?One bad apple spoils the whole barrel? mean.

When I first discovered the site, I lurked?.I started with viewing topics I was interested in & worked my way through years of information; some I found to be credible & of value to me personally, some held less value for me. The thing that stood out to me; beyond the wealth of information contained herein; was what I?ll call a distinct ?Post-At-Your-Own-Risk? factor. When I finally got up the nerve to make my first post, I took flack, I defended myself, but soon realized that my defense was simply adding fuel to the fire. I rapidly learned which members to avoid, if a bully had added a sarcastic or rude comment to a post, I stopped coming to the defense of the original poster, which goes against my grain. I?m the kind of person who does go to the defense of people, even at personal physical risk.

This week, I?ve been furious over two posts on this site; the beheadings in Rosarita & Pilar?s. I posted on the Rosarito thread, only to be told?.basically?.to lighten up on Bruce & understand this is life here & Bruce needs to keep up his humor in order to not succumb to the bad things that happen here! That was my last post. Then along came what I view as Pilar?s innocent post & the rabid attack on her. It infuriates me that so many members attacked her, the manner in which they attacked her, and then when she stood her ground, she was attacked for standing her ground! On top of that, she gets crucified for responding in kind!!! I fully understand why Pilar2006 came out swinging; she was attacked with the first response to her post, and as with school yard bullies, others immediately banded together & jumped on the ?Let?s attack Pilar wagon?!! There are other ?Real Estate Available? ads on this site that never received one comment! If you truly have a problem with any post on here, why is it that a small number of people kick into attack mode? It's not cute & it's not funny! There are as many polite, respectful ways to ask a question or state your opinion, as there are rude & offensive!! An even more important question is WHY DO OTHER MEMBERS TOLERATE IT? There appear to be a few members who DO take the time & effort to speak up, however, IMHO, the abuse they too take makes them think twice about ever speaking up again. It?s really sad what the majority allow the minority to do in THEIR name. Each and every member is a BajaNomad!!! Most convey personal pride in being associated with the site & seem to enjoy BajaNomad status....in whatever uniquely individual way they view it. What you need to keep in mind is that each & every rude/crude/lewd offensive attack is a personal reflection on every single member.

I?m angry with myself for not coming to Pilar?s defense, but I?m furious at the few members on here for whom I have absolutely NO respect who put me in the position of deciding against posting. I knew if I did post that it would just add fuel to the fire & it would become exactly what it did become?.a peeing match!! Are you mudslingers proud of how you treat a first-time poster? Or do you have so little respect for others that you just flat don't give a damn?

Initially, I was inclined to stay away from the site for a while, to just slink quietly off into the night....but I doubt that would make the bullies magically disappear, any more than it might make more people speak up & shout the bullies down with LOUD & CLEAR objections to abusive posts. IMHO, we should all be ashamed of allowing things to get to a point where Doug is forced to become a ?Hall Monitor?. Doug has a helluva lot of time & effort invested in this site & it?s too bad that a few people apparently forget that & devalue his efforts! IMHO, this is the reason that other sites have failed & faded?.do you want BajaNomad to go the way of other sites? Is that all the respect that you have for Doug? For other BajaNomad members? For future potential members?

It?s really a shame that I?ve allowed a few people to make me ashamed of being a member!!! I usually scoff at the people who say ?You?re known by the company you keep?. It disgusts me that I?ve allowed a few abusive bullies to make me stand back & watch without coming to the defense, but a few quiet little voices in the wilderness don?t appear to carry too much weight; sadly, it appears to have the adverse effect of adding fuel to the fire. SHAME ON ME FOR KNUCKLING UNDER TO THE BULLIES!

I know I?m not alone in my feelings, and hopefully the time & energy I put into writing this will prompt some creative thinking on the part of everyone. If my views would force one thoughtless immature bully into seeing themselves through the eyes of others & changing their approach, it?d be a beginning; if it will cause more people to speak up when they?re offended, maybe it could snowball! I personally have enough ?Pollyanna? left in me to believe that there are more people in the world who would come to the aid of someone being physically attacked, why should it be any different when someone is being verbally attacked? What ever happened to ?Do unto others?..??? Common human decency & courtesy for other?? "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all"?? While I do believe that we all have a right to voice our opinions, I also believe that there are socially acceptable parameters to do so in!

Come on people, take a stand, speak up! Don't let the minority taint the majority! I can?t be the only one who feels this way, nor the only one who just decided to dust off her big brass balls!

Bruce R Leech - 6-29-2006 at 11:56 AM

Boy I was hoping that every one was going to drop this thing. I think you have been a good person and have posted some good things here. but sense you are dragging it out in to the open again and seem to be determined to start sling mud again here we go. I seem to be the only one that you named so you force me to defined myself. If you would have read the thread carefully you would have seen that I attacked here only after she attacked me and I only attacked her personally for her actions and behavior. I never attacked here project , business or her right to post on the Baja Nomad Forum. I don't see what I have done to you to make you want to pick a fight with me. your post seems a little hypocritical to me. most of the people here can take care of them selves and don't really need someone baby sitting them. but if that is your thing go right ahead but I'm not going to give you the satisfaction of fighting with you :?:

I think the main reason some people jumped on pilers case is that they relay don't like to see someones first post on the forum to be some advertisement for anything as a good thing . this usually is a strong indicator that it is spam and that they will never post anything interesting for all the Baja readers here. and this seem to be the case with her. it is the only contribution she made here is to promote a project that may very well be good. but in my opinion it takes more than that to be a good nomad. you received a good welcome here after making some exultant and informative posts.

read the thread again and tell me what you think. I know it is difficult because of all of the editing and deleting that took place by here heavy report button finger.

[Edited on 6-29-2006 by Bruce R Leech]

Bob and Susan - 6-29-2006 at 12:33 PM

The post by pilar2006 was NOT an offer to sell property in baja....
I'm glad you didn't stick of for someone you don't even know..

Remember this is the internet and pilar2006 MAY NOT even be a woman!!!
It wouldn't suprise me in the least.
Just because its on the internet it MAY not be true.

It was a post to solicit money for a partnership.
That partnership DOES NOT own the property in question.

I think Nomads deserve to be warned of any questionable profit making schemes...period.

If these people really have good intentions...I wish them the best of luck but....
They cannot show a track record of investment profit or sucess in realestate transactions in Mexico.

Talk is cheap...the loss of money invested is horrible...just beware.

And unless you know some personally, on the internet you should beware.

longlegsinlapaz

Baja Bernie - 6-29-2006 at 02:01 PM

Lady, I assume you are a lady because I would have great difficulty in believing any real Baja Guy would use your handle.

I share with you your comments on a seeming lack of civility that arises, in what seem to be cycles on this board. I see absolutely no need for crudeness or attacks until someone attacks. Right out of the barn this woman attacked everyone in sight. Even if she were legal I would never buy anything from her.

This is the only board I post on and I have been doing that for more than 6 months and I have been kicking around Baja for almost 50 years and some of the people you are painting black have been around more than long enough to realize that one of the most dangerous things you can do is fall for the siren songs of flyby night ?real estate? people in Baja. Stop and evaluate the motives of many of the posters and you will find that they raise up when something like this comes along because they do not wish other Nomads or lurkers to get drawn into this kind of deal. These people just offend their sense of decency.

I quit becoming interested in voicing my opinion on this stuff a long time ago when some newby?s wanted to argue with experienced ?old-timers? and assumed that they could ask questions and then argue with the answers if they were not what they wanted to hear. If someone asks me I am happy to share my limited knowledge as I have invested in both Californias and my wife was a broker in San Diego for a few years

I have encouraged lurkers to come out of the shadows (especially women because I think the board needs more of their viewpoints) and join the discussion---however, as with anyone new to any organization or group of people it always pays to get to know the personality?s of the ?senior? guys and gals so that the new kids on the block do not ruffle to many feathers without meaning to.

You will note that the only real interest I showed in this thread was asking the lady if she knew Bill and Bertha Steele?she didn?t bother to respond and from that I got the information that I needed because they are well known investors and developers in that area and have been for about 15 years (they have been in Baja Norte for close to 40 years)?I have found that they know almost everyone in that area and most people know them?Bill is the Gringo and Bertha is his wonderful Mexican wife and help mate.

On the Rosarito thing I agree that a few peoples ?humor? was way out of line and I believe they know it. Cops use this kind of humor (I retired as one) among themselves and ER nurses as a means of surviving while dealing with terrible events. They seldom if ever shared this black humor with civilians because it is so easy to be misunderstood.

I think we all forget that there are always people out at the fringes evaluating both individuals and the board by what we post.

If you will stop and think the only reason most folks join the Nomads is because we have a wealth of information and experience that is available to anyone who asks?but we do get a little put out when newby?s with brass balls get a bit too carried away with their constructive (yes! I mean that) criticisms. Bear with us and you will find that we may fight a little with each other but by and large we do care about each other and other Baja people.

Hope this makes a little sense! And welcome

I agree with Longlegs

bajabound2005 - 6-29-2006 at 02:45 PM

Longlegs, I completely agree with you. Have felt the same way many times. Some good people have left this board due to the attacks other choose to make. You will note, Longlegs, that the same ones attacking you on this very post are the same ones attacking Pilar. They are a small but very vocal minority on the board, something I'm only beginning to understand.

Bruce, it may have been a Freudian slip but I think you meant you were forced to DEFEND yourself; but perhaps if you defined yourself as well that would be helpful.

Quote:

Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
I seem to be the only one that you named so you force me to defined myself.

Anyway, this board has a lot to offer so you just have to skim over the bad and absorb the good!

Bruce R Leech - 6-29-2006 at 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bajabound2005
Longlegs, I completely agree with you. Have felt the same way many times. Some good people have left this board due to the attacks other choose to make. You will note, Longlegs, that the same ones attacking you on this very post are the same ones attacking Pilar. They are a small but very vocal minority on the board, something I'm only beginning to understand.

Bruce, it may have been a Freudian slip but I think you meant you were forced to DEFEND yourself; but perhaps if you defined yourself as well that would be helpful.

Quote:

Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
I seem to be the only one that you named so you force me to defined myself.

Anyway, this board has a lot to offer so you just have to skim over the bad and absorb the good!

is it fun to be a hypocrite bajabound2005. you are one of two people that have attacked some one by name on this thread. what is with you people everyone wants to fight. I'm sorry I don't spell that good but at least it gives you reason to feel good about your self when you can find fault with others.

[Edited on 6-29-2006 by Bruce R Leech]

bajabound

Baja Bernie - 6-29-2006 at 03:58 PM

I didn't attack anyone and I responded to the lady in a very reasonable manner.

Did you bother to read my post in your haste to condemn others?

You paint with a very wide brush.

The edit was to correct a run on word. Didn't wish you to have another excuse to find fault.

[Edited on 6-29-2006 by Baja Bernie]

bajabound2005 - 6-29-2006 at 04:29 PM

Bernie, I carefully read your post and took no issue with you. You did not attack in that post. It was quite thoughtful, in fact. Neither did you attack in Pilar's post (and your point about her lack of response is well taken)! Others have been out of line and from your post you obviously agree with that much! Peace!

longlegsinlapaz - 6-29-2006 at 04:43 PM

Baja Bernie, thank you for your well thought out response! While you haven't changed my thoughts or feelings about what I feel to be abusive or offensive posts, I do sincerely appreciate & respect the straightforward & respectful manner you presented your response. You GOT the fact that what I meant to convey truly was constructive criticism; some thoughts to hopefully get others thinking about keeping this a well-respected site where newbies don't need to worry about making a post then ducking as fast as they can!

Bajabound2005, Thank you also for your well thought out response, and I'm pretty sure you left out the word "some" in your comment about who posted what where....because when I read it I didn't feel you were knocking Baja Bernie. As I stated above, I respect his thoughts & feel he expressed himself in a respectful manner. Nothing in his response offended me or gave me cause to pause! I totally agree that this board has a lot to offer & will do my best to steer clear of the rabblerousers.

Bruce, I apologize for your's being the only name I used in the post, I should have taken the time & gone back & named each & every one whose posts I felt were out of line...or NONE at all! It was not intentional, it's something I overlooked in the heat of the moment getting my thoughts out! Again, I apolgize for having given the appearance of singling you alone out!

Anonymous - 6-29-2006 at 05:05 PM

After many years in Baja and mostly in Baja Sur and taking a recent trip from Tecate to La Paz I decided that I did not have the time to to waste on this Board.

I started out on the old Amigos board then switched to Dougs board.
The insults, especially if you are a Christian, The Porn, the bragging about excessive Drinking and smoking DOPE finally tuned me off.

I have asked several times to have all of my Posts deleted from this Forum, I no longer want to have my name associated with several of the "Child Like Bashers" that seems to occur on nearly all Posts.

Let the first timers go to Baja and find out from the Good People of Baja through experience not "Monday Morning Quarterbacks"!

There are and still are some fine people on this board-Now they are outnumbered by the"Children with ego Problems".

Anonymous - 6-29-2006 at 05:28 PM

Skeet if you do not have time for this board why do you keep coming back and whining and sniveling?

bajabound your first couple of post here were loaded with sarcasm and drew enough heat that you deleted them...Talk about hypocrites.

bancoduo - 6-29-2006 at 05:35 PM

Soon PILAR2006$ will jump into this and it will start all over again :no:

On second thought :yes:

[Edited on 6-30-2006 by bancoduo]

The Sculpin - 6-29-2006 at 05:36 PM

HOOOOOOOO Boy!

Here we go again!

This reminds me of the 'ole Amigo days when the new crew got all upset over posts on where to find the best cat houses, and which dirt road was the most trecherous.

There's no doubt Pilar was itchin for a fight, and that's why there were so many hits - it was damn entertaining...and if it wasn't, don't click in! Why she felt she had to defend or explain herself to a bunch of losers like us was way beyond me. Either he/she/it (say that one fast 3 times) knew people on this board and tried to goad them, or he/she/it is a monumental idiot for letting personal feelings get in the way of a classified ad. Just post an email addy and get on with it!

Anyway, what makes this board so great is the interaction between the posters. Yes, it's a club, and yes anyone can join, and yes sometimes there are little get togethers, and yes it might appear cliquish at times, but overall it's pretty damn inclusive and a pretty good refelection of the people who love baja. Basically, alot of us are a little rough around the edges, and have never been hesitant about walking up to a campfire and peeing in it! That's the baja spirit. Another way to put it is, yeah sure, if we see you stuck in the middle of nowhere we'll stop and do whatever it takes to get you unstuck, but that doesn't mean we can't have a little fun at your expense while doing it!

This board is also highly addictive. Just look at the plight of the poor poster above. The guy posts to say he no longer posts and had all his posts deleted! What's going on there? The shame is that everybody loves the guy and wishes him the best!

Oh well, like I have said before, it sure is fun being on this board, but I hope I never see you guys crossing the sand dunes into my campsite - I'll just leave!

Bruce R Leech - 6-29-2006 at 05:46 PM

If I could writ gud Id say whet The Sculpin sad :lol:

The Sculpin thank you
Bruce

Bedman - 6-29-2006 at 07:57 PM

Sculpin,

I love this line!!

"Basically, alot of us are a little rough around the edges, and have never been hesitant about walking up to a campfire and peeing in it!"

Says quite a lot in a few words.

Bedman

jimgrms - 7-24-2006 at 03:48 PM

O K Sculpin where is the best cat house in baja

DanO - 7-24-2006 at 04:00 PM

Don't be silly, there are no cats in Baja. The coyotes keep eating them.

thebajarunner - 7-24-2006 at 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimgrms
O K Sculpin where is the best cat house in baja

Doug, can we do a topic on "Great Cat Houses of Baja"???

Just wondering...
I have no first hand info, of course, just lots of great stories we have all heard about.
(that's my story, I'm stickin' with it)

Bernie...are u sure?

Sharksbaja - 7-25-2006 at 01:00 AM

"Bear with us and you will find that we may fight a little with each other but by and large we do care about each other and other Baja people."

I guess I haven't garnered a private response for my efforts of peace with you. Such is life.... :smug:

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Sculpin.... if I know it's you....yer welcome into my camp anytime. Good post! You nailed it! :yes:

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Legs. I'm still digesting what you said....

[Edited on 7-25-2006 by Sharksbaja]

longlegsinlapaz - 7-25-2006 at 07:14 AM

Sharksbaja, the Reader's Digest Condensed Version would be.....Any & all who post here have a right to do so without being subjected to personal attack. I was in no way, shape or form, supporting the substance of Pilar's post; merely her right to post...without being subjected to attack. It's very telling to me that the majority of people who commented overlooked what to me is obvious, Pilar didn't START the venom, she merely responsed in like! But were the rude, abusive agitators taken to task? Nope, for the most part only the victim was. Like breeds like; you attack someone & they're most likely going to respond in kind.

We all have our own unique experiences, thoughts & feelings!! I believe that there are just as many respectful ways to disagree with someone as there are rude, offensive & abusive ways! I was simply asking people to think about "doing unto others......." I made the mistake of only using those two thread examples, when in reality, I was speaking towards ALL threads & ALL posts.

Alright already you cat house guys!! :no:

I can see my next "contribution" is gonna be entitled "Proper Etiquette on Thread Hijacking!!!!! (((Whoa!! She DOES have a sense of humor!!))) :bounce:

Cypress - 7-25-2006 at 11:27 AM

peeing on a persons campfire? Go for it! Might lead to some hurt feelings, or other things.

DanO - 7-25-2006 at 11:39 AM

Steam burns.

flyfishinPam - 7-25-2006 at 02:53 PM

I read the thread that's being discussed and agree with Longlegsinlapaz.

Bruce R Leech - 7-25-2006 at 03:35 PM

flyfishinPam you cant tell now the thread has been trashed buy editing and deleting of posts and everything is out of context. I was supporting that woman until she attacked me. everyone drooped the issue because we were tired of it also. and now longleggs insists on dragging this thing through the fire one more time just to stir the pot. :barf:

be careful who you support. :light:

[Edited on 7-25-2006 by Bruce R Leech]

flyfishinPam - 7-25-2006 at 06:34 PM

Yeah I didn't take into consideration how chpooed up the thread became. I read it only after it received attention somewhere but the lady posted a promo which is allowed and the first one who responded called it spam. The way I see it is that the promo was in a place that was designated for such postings so the person wasn't out of line. However the person did go off in a weird way and shouldn;t be in a position of customer service. The whole thing drew lots of negative attention and likely backfired on the poster n the long run. Anyway colonet is too cold for me.

bajalou - 7-25-2006 at 06:48 PM

Except she had nothing to sell - was looking for investors and then buy something. Not quite the same as selling a lot.

Bob and Susan - 7-25-2006 at 07:08 PM

yes no lots for sale even thought they acted like it was a done deal....

only investment ops

and...

we all know you're a girl, pam but....

was this really a girl posting...maybe not...

Paula - 7-25-2006 at 08:00 PM

Pilar had every right to post her ad under real estate for sale.

Those who responded attacked the post that she made, and I think they raised reasonable questions, perhaps somewhat somewhat tactlessly.

She went on to make personal attacks on those who responded to her ad. Her assumptions about the posters were unfounded and outrageous.

Some posts inspire less than polite responses, and that is how conversation sometimes works. I don't really have a problem with that, especially when the banter is witty and to the point,

I stop short of feeling this is OK in any news of tragedy, such as Roger's untimely death, and other tragic news. I would hope that in the future in those threads we all put away our egos and senses of "humor", and offer our condolences, contribute meaningfully and respectfully, or simply remain quiet.

Let's all do our own self-censorship in these cases, and not make Doug come in and clean up after our childish rantings. Some things are sacred. Real estate isn't one of them.

[Edited on 7-26-2006 by Paula]

Don Alley - 7-25-2006 at 08:33 PM

Ok, I lampooned her post with a graphic of a Spam can.

I felt that a first time post, that offered no land, lots, or buildings for sale, but was a solicitation for investors in an unusual investment scheme, met the description of "spam."

Some disagreed. I was, and continue to be, "taken to task" by some posters. And I believe that the contentions that I am a stupid, lonely, friendless, greedy, big developer may be construed by some (although apparently not by all) as personal attacks. But, unlike others, I did not hit the report button and ask that those posts be deleted. I understand that if and when I criticize a post I can't whine to the moderator if I don't like the responses.

I flatly disagree with the contention that anyone should be able to post any message on any board that is automatically free of criticism. I disagree with the contention that any criticism of the content of a message constitutes a personal attack. And I believe that if someone posts soliciting people to participate in more development of beachfront land, responses should not be limited to "attaboys" or expressions of interest.

I shouldn't have to agree with, or ignore, those with their waterfront development plans, no matter how much greenwash they apply. That doesn't mean that I'm going to jump all over any and every mention of development in Baja, but troll one by me with a lot of eco-babble and I just might bite.

But don't count on me to stay hooked long; I spit the hook on that thread after just a couple of jumps and may spit this one now too.

Oh, it's raining here in Loreto.

Brass balls

Baja Bernie - 7-25-2006 at 08:46 PM

I admire you ability to stay on topic--but I wonder if there will be any results.

Come on Lady! You have much more than this to contirbute to your fellow Nomads. Please do it.

Am I in for it or what?

bajalou - 7-25-2006 at 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paula
Pilar had every right to post her ad under real estate for sale.

[Edited on 7-26-2006 by Paula]

She did NOT have real estate for sale so why should she post there?
:?:

Paula - 7-25-2006 at 09:39 PM

Quote:

Oh, it's raining here in Loreto.

Not to hijack a thread or anythng, :saint:

, but how hard is it raining in Loreto?!?

flyfishinPam - 7-26-2006 at 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paula

Quote:

Oh, it's raining here in Loreto.

Not to hijack a thread or anythng, :saint:

, but how hard is it raining in Loreto?!?

Seemed it rained oly about 1/1000 th of an inch. Man we really need it too, maybe next time.

flyfishinPam - 7-26-2006 at 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Don Alley
Ok, I lampooned her post with a graphic of a Spam can.

No te precoupes I thought it was funny but what it turned into? weird

longlegsinlapaz - 7-27-2006 at 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
flyfishinPam you cant tell now the thread has been trashed buy editing and deleting of posts and everything is out of context. I was supporting that woman until she attacked me. everyone drooped the issue because we were tired of it also. and now longleggs insists on dragging this thing through the fire one more time just to stir the pot. :barf:

be careful who you support. :light:

[Edited on 7-25-2006 by Bruce R Leech]

Please note: I created my original post 6/29, it was active until 6/30, then it sat idle until it was resurrected by someone other than me on 7/24, at which time I did respond to a comment directed at me.

The warning for Pam to be careful who she supports was real cute, although I doubt she was "supporting" me so much as she was simply agreeing with what I said in this one thread.

Bruce R Leech - 7-27-2006 at 07:39 AM

the problem here is know one has anything to go back and refer to the thread was co chopped up that nothing means what it was intended to. I think if a thread goes bad and needs attention the whole thread should be scratched. when you take out every other post and edit the ones you leave it is a disservice to all who read it from then on. then some one like longlegs who obversely wants to drag this thing out and milk it for all it is worth comes along reads it and thinks she is going to flame the ones responsible for picking on the poor little girl :lol:

[Edited on 7-27-2006 by Bruce R Leech]

longlegsinlapaz - 7-27-2006 at 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Baja Bernie
I admire you ability to stay on topic--but I wonder if there will be any results.

Come on Lady! You have much more than this to contirbute to your fellow Nomads. Please do it.

Am I in for it or what?

Bernie, I'm crushed that you feel my contributions have been less than satisfactory.

Bruce R Leech - 7-27-2006 at 08:21 AM

Well longlegs why do you make a new thread with the obviously only purpose is to slam me and pick a fight. I don't want to fight with a fellow nomad but you force me to defined myself.

I think what Baja Bernie is trying to say is you have made many good posts here in the past and this thread is a little out of caricature for you.

[Edited on 7-27-2006 by Bruce R Leech]

thebajarunner - 7-27-2006 at 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bruce R Leech

I think what Baja Bernie is trying to say is you have made many god posts here in the past and this thread is a little out of caricature for you.

I thought only skeets did "god posts"

Bruce R Leech - 7-27-2006 at 03:03 PM

sorry

Pilar Colonet

bancoduo - 7-28-2006 at 02:43 PM

Google it! You will find out what this b-tch and her husband are up too. Do your research before some of you are critisizing people that are exposing a scam. But then again; a lot of you people could be opportunists using this forum to your own selfish means. :no:

Skeet/Loreto - 7-28-2006 at 02:56 PM

Hey Runner!
Glad to hear that you remember me as a Beleiver!!I have been a Sinner-Just check out the "CatHouses of Baja" Thread.
Just for your info; My Wife's Mare came from Oakdale, Ca.Now I am a Stable Boy, Shoveling Poop, Carrying Feed, and really enjoying the Horse Colt Produced- Now a 16 month Gilding my Wife is preparing to Show at the Tri-State Fair.
Youall come down anytime Ya Hear!!

Skeet/Texas
Formerly Skeet/Loreto and Anon the Preacher

longlegs

Baja Bernie - 7-28-2006 at 03:03 PM

I an very sure that nothing I 'would' say would crush you.

So please start a new thread this one is getting a bit worn.

Bruce did get my attention! Do those things come with thunder and lightening?