BajaNomad - smoke free restaurants

smoke free restaurants

sylens - 7-24-2006 at 10:00 AM

mexico lindo on calzada cortez, two blocks east of reforma
la finca on blvd. costero

there must be more in ensenada, but these two are the only ones that come to mind.

help??

:?:

capt. mike - 7-25-2006 at 04:46 AM

too bad......tobacco is my favorite vegetable......right Bob??

well, a section for us is all i ask. i respect the rights of those who don't enjoy the sweet taste and smell of fine quality puros...

to paraphrase El Gato Loco, "life is too short to ........puff crappy butts".

argh

mulege marv - 7-25-2006 at 06:47 AM

smoke free restaurants ? in mexico ? argh ! whats next ? smoke free cantinas ? smog checks ? DUI checkpoints ? budwieser & coors light ? traffic lights that work ? no, no, no, no !

Bruce R Leech - 7-25-2006 at 06:49 AM

there goes the neighborhood

Capt. George - 7-25-2006 at 06:21 PM

farting on thursday in a taco joint will get you deported.

new law, no kidding!

Al G - 7-25-2006 at 06:23 PM

You all need to develop some humanity.
People who smoke live in the same cage as the drunk driver that murders people. You don't want to know what I really feel.

Sallysouth - 7-25-2006 at 06:46 PM

Altho I sympathise with Sylens and agree that no one should be subjected to anyones second-hand smoke, who cares what you really think ,Al G?

Paulina - 7-25-2006 at 06:46 PM

I read this somewhere:

Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool.

Sallysouth - 7-25-2006 at 06:55 PM

Sounds about right Paulina! I agree, it is a very offensive odor and dangerous environment, specially for kids and older folks (well, everyone actually).

Anti Smoking rant removed

vgabndo - 7-25-2006 at 07:42 PM

You didn't miss anything. :lol:

[Edited on 7-26-2006 by vgabndo]

And I apologized at 9:00 PM, and I haven't said ANYTHING since.

[Edited on 7-28-2006 by vgabndo]

bajabound2005 - 7-25-2006 at 08:48 PM

Gracias, vgabndo and others SUPPORTING this thread! This was a new thread about NON SMOKING RESTAURANTS. Smokers, advocates of smokers or those not interested in the topic NEED NOT APPLY, READ OR REPLY. My mother died from lung cancer though she had not smoked in over 40 years. But I was there and it was painful and ugly for all of us. Enough about that...I just like enjoying great food without the enhancement of cigarette smoke --- I think all real Nomads can respect that....so we respectfully request that any other "replies" be limited to those that include names of restaurants that do not allow smoking. Gracias!

roundtuit - 7-25-2006 at 09:24 PM

smokers on the left, tokers on the right, stuck in the middle with
you :lol:

Mea Culpa

vgabndo - 7-25-2006 at 10:04 PM

I did bust the thread. Sorry. I don't know of any place where smoking is explicitly prohibited. That said, I have noticed that at Cafe Ole in Loreto, the smokers tend to use the outside tables when they are available.

Dave - 7-25-2006 at 10:08 PM

The deli is not 'smoke free' but neither is it encouraged. We decided to let our customers police their preference. When someone enquires "may I smoke?", we ask that they receive adjacent table/s permission. Most don't even go there. On the other hand, If a non-smoker picks a table next to smokers and then complains about it...They'll get an earful.

We find that most of our smokers are polite and considerate of others. They all ask for permission.

However, the real inconsiderate bast*rds are cell phone users. Anyone know of any 'cell phone free' restaurants?

roundtuit - 7-25-2006 at 10:13 PM

I smoke and have since I was 15 now 64 but I tend to respect those that don't and try to give them thier space but when they step into mine and whine about the smoke I have no sympathy

come on

mulege marv - 7-26-2006 at 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Al G
You all need to develop some humanity.
People who smoke live in the same cage as the drunk driver that murders people. You don't want to know what I really feel.

you gotta be kidding ! and your right i dont !
lighten up

Bruce R Leech - 7-26-2006 at 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mulege marv

Quote:

Originally posted by Al G
You all need to develop some humanity.
People who smoke live in the same cage as the drunk driver that murders people. You don't want to know what I really feel.

you gotta be kidding ! and your right i dont !
lighten up

I gotta go along with Marv on this one

TWO MORE RESTAURANTS IN ENSENADA AREA

bajabound2005 - 7-26-2006 at 02:27 PM

One restaurant that is NO FUMAR in Ensenada is El Rincon on the Reforma in the same shopping center as the Super Gigante. They call it Comida Mexicana Rapida but it is excellent. Today we had their sopes (fantastico)!

Another place that is NO FUMAR in Maneadero is Cafe Jalisco on the Transpenisular on the West side of the hiway. Excellent Mexican food, especially the Cocido del Res.

mariscos bahia azul

sylens - 7-26-2006 at 04:49 PM

kitty corner from tortuga just off calle primera (lopez mateos) in ensenada is also smoke free. even in the outside dining area! :bounce:

anyone know (or remember) that the state legislature passed a law that supposedly went into effect january 1, 2006, outlawing smoking in restaurants in baja california?? (norte, not sur) :lol:

for awhile casamar went smoke free, but apparently succumbed to pressure and now allows smoking (upstairs only).

Al G - 7-26-2006 at 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by Sallysouth
Altho I sympathise with Sylens and agree that no one should be subjected to anyones second-hand smoke, who cares what you reallyThink ,Al G?

I never used this word! I don't "think", I "feel", as I stated.
To think something implies. an expertise. I only feel
for my father, Mother, brother. and My friend.
Except for my friend, who lives on asthma sprays, oxygen, and nitroglycerin sublingual, They are all dead from nicotine.
Linda denies she is an addict, but has cried on my shoulder for a way to quit. She is 58, Looks 78, an has had her first stroke.
Strange thing is, it is still more important for her to have a cigarette then the fact her left side of her face droops badly.
I remember as a young boy waking up night after night, with the hacking and coughing of my father, trying desperately to catch his breath, and then the sound of his Zippo clicking and that deep sucking sound followed closely by AAHHH.
I didn't know what all this meant then, until I joined the navy in 1961. When I reported to NAS North Inland, after recruit training, the barracks I was assigned to was a temp, and of course no one over 17 years old, It is my believe it was supported by R.J. Reynolds. I wasn't an early Hotshot, so I was intimidated by all the smoke. I had to wave my hand in front of my face to find my way to my bunk. I immediately went to the commissary and bought a pack of Salem. I got laugh at because they were not Lucky Strike or at least Pall Mall. Best thing that could have happened! Made me realize I wasn't that intimidated, but it took a couple years to realize it. I will never forget the taste in my mouth when I woke in the morning or even worst when I had a cold and still was forced by my addition to suck on a butt. My kid brother followed me into the Navy and was Intimidated too, but he did not survive. 54 Years young. If you ask, "was it weak genes"? My father was born 9/11/1902, Mother 8/18/1911. Before their generation both sides normally lived into their 90s and 100s. None smoked, but was told some chewed. Talk about disgusting! If you smoke nobody wants to be near you. YOU STINK.
For all of you really smart Nomads out there, that are nicotine drug addicts, the day is not far off that when you cough and cough and cough and cough until you head is still making the motion but there is no air left, but you still try, WAKE up the end is not far off. To the butt suckers out there that want to say "it is my life and I will live it as I please" , your surviving children will disagree. I hope they are not the last one as I am. There is nobody of my generation left but me,
Sally South, No bad feelings, no bad thoughts, I want to be friends, if you won't ask me if you can to pollute my lungs. It is a stupid question and you know NOBODY wants you to harm them. That is a real problem with nice people. They will tell you "go ahead", but they really want to shove that cigarette down your throat. This subject is the only one that will alienated me. As the smoke addicts die off and the vast majority of intelligent young people realize the addictive power of nicotine, it will not be long before we make it a felony to smoke. Hope I live long enough to see it. I know you smokers will not.

i thought it was clear

mulege marv - 7-27-2006 at 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Al G
You all need to develop some humanity.
People who smoke live in the same cage as the drunk driver that murders people. You don't want to know what I really feel.

humm, i didnt read where one person wanted to know "what i really feel" as you put it (but we got it anyway) . i dont believe your post has anything to do with baja, its an opinion and i would think there are lots of people in maybe, berkley calif, that would love to hear it, post it there! get off the soap box & again lighten up !

RULE # 1 Topics within the BajaNomad.com forums will pertain the Baja California, Mexico peninsula.

[Edited on 7-27-2006 by mulege marv]

[Edited on 7-27-2006 by mulege marv]

bajabound2005 - 7-27-2006 at 08:05 AM

Right on, Mulege Marv! So, to of all you who aren't contributing to the spirit of the thread, which is, in case you all forgot, listing non-smoking restaurants in Baja: please stop polluting the thread!

[Edited on 7-27-2006 by bajabound2005]

Tobacco-free restaurants

Cypress - 7-27-2006 at 10:33 AM

No problem with smoke/smokers unless they're blowing it in my face. Was a long time smoker. started at the age of 12, quit at 28. The few places I've been lucky enough to dine at down in Baja where pretty much wide open with lots of ventilation. Would like to see somebody puffing enough to smoke-up the the great outdoors.

comitan - 7-27-2006 at 11:01 AM

Well for whatever its worth thread crashing or not I'm with Al. and I'll stay on my soapbox untill somebody knocks me off physically. :rolleyes:

well

mulege marv - 7-27-2006 at 03:29 PM

RULE # 1 Topics within the BajaNomad.com forums will pertain the Baja California, Mexico peninsula

[Edited on 7-28-2006 by mulege marv]

does anyone get this comment?

bajabound2005 - 7-27-2006 at 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mulege marv
RULE # 1 Topics within the BajaNomad.com forums will pertain the Baja California, Mexico peninsula.

how macho !

[Edited on 7-27-2006 by mulege marv]

Marv -- how many Tecates did you have when you wrote this? And how does it fit into the conversation?

Oh, I know! IT DOESN'T!

humm

mulege marv - 7-28-2006 at 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by comitan
Well for whatever its worth thread crashing or not I'm with Al. and I'll stay on my soapbox untill somebody knocks me off physically. :rolleyes:

i dont drink tecate ! maybe your question should be directed at, ahhhh never mind, not worth it , i give. going to post something positve and nice ABOUT BAJA.

bajajudy - 7-28-2006 at 06:35 AM

Rossy's Tacos in San Jose del Cabo....smoke free

Al G - 7-28-2006 at 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by bajajudy
Rossy's Tacos in San Jose del Cabo....smoke free

Judy, Can I get directions please say from Aeroporto (spell??)

BTW until this thread I had not seen very many Baja people smoking and none in restaurants. Come to think of it I have not seen anyone smoking in Todos Santos. It bothers me enough I think I would have notice especially The Hotel California Bar. Maybe my memory is worst then I think :rolleyes:

[Edited on 7-28-2006 by Al G]

Smoke-free places to munch.

Cypress - 7-28-2006 at 10:46 AM

Like roundtoit's take on this issue! :tumble:

bajajudy - 7-28-2006 at 03:03 PM

Al
Coming into San Jose from the airport. you will go through 7 traffic lights. After the 7th one you will pass the big Pemex on the left then there is a Formula Uno(there are two, this is the second one) on the right and you will see a traffic light ahead, look to your right after the nursery for an orange building with Rossy's on it. If there is no parking in front, take a right at the light and park along there.
Provecho

I wonder

Baja Bernie - 7-28-2006 at 03:31 PM

Should we ask Doug to set up a smoking section and a non-smoking section right here on the forum. No windows and very good ventilation.

Sadly, it now seems that Baja is exposed to another sort of Gringo biases.

Camping out is great for the soul and the lungs too!

I'll bet there are one or perhaps even two very nice people who smoke and post here. Should we get together and ban them.

And what about the non-smokers who say, so forceable, things others do not wish to hear.

I don't smoke and I don't like the smell of smoke but until someone can really come up with direct proof that second hand smoke will really shorten my life (now 70) then I guess I will still keep my wonderful friends who happen to smoke.

But I sure would never think of expecting our hosts in this once fantastic country to change "more" of their culture to accommodate ours.

Let's all lighten up a bit--No, I didn't say light up.

comitan - 7-28-2006 at 04:13 PM

Bernie

I'm heavy on smoking when your friends start needing oxygen and while taking oxygen light up I always worried they would blow themselves up but no they just died. In my own case having heart disease iv'e had two doctors tell me if I smoked I would be dead!!!!!!!!!!

capt. mike - 7-28-2006 at 04:25 PM

what were we talking about.............??

i prefer 1st hand smoke, but will take 2nd hand whenever i can get it.

Everything in moderation can't be all bad.......

Marv - when i get back, lets go have some of that good AZUL tequila and puff a few!! :lol:

Comitin

Baja Bernie - 7-28-2006 at 06:20 PM

All I was getting at was this----Let's all lighten up a bit--No, I didn't say light up.---and that is what I meant.

I didn't ask for anyone's medical background and I am afraid I can trump you in all areas but that just 'ain't what we are on this board for. General Hospital belongs on WebMd which I visit a quite often.

Al G - 7-28-2006 at 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

Originally posted by Al G
It bothers me enough I think I would have notice especially The Hotel California Bar. Maybe my memory is worst then I think :rolleyes:

Recently confirmed: second-hand tobacco smoke causes amnesia.

--Larry

It is wonderful to laugh when the subject is so bad.
I want all to know that if I get the chance to meet you, and you smoke, I will not do or say anything disrespectful. I certainly will not get in your face. It will be a pleasure to meet you. I have a very close friend, who does not smoke, but on rare special occasions will enjoy a stogies, about the size...no won't go there... He once talked me into puffing on one and it was not bad for about 5-6 puffs and now he doesn't make any more offers. I guess they cost $20-30 dollars. Now he sets down wind, and we enjoy a great bottle of Cab, spent watching the evening stars appear at a high Sierra lake or on the shore of the Cortez or Pacific.

Peace....

[Edited on 7-29-2006 by Al G]

Al G

Baja Bernie - 7-28-2006 at 07:04 PM

That is light enough! I salute you as a fellow Nomad.

Lencho, Did I remember my line correctly?

bajabound2005 - 7-28-2006 at 08:50 PM

Oh, why can't all of you get off this thread and start your own about the benefits of smoking or the rights of smokers or whatever? This was just supposed to be list of restaurants in Baja that allow those of us paying for the meal to ENJOY it without the benefit of any cigarette smoke whether it be first hand, second hand or otherwise. Some of us just like to TASTE the food which you can't do when it's "enhanced" by cigarette smoke...no matter you be outside, with fans, well ventilated...if you don't like cigarette smoke....it does not much matter.

[Edited on 7-29-2006 by bajabound2005]

Paula - 7-28-2006 at 08:59 PM

You are off the subject, Bajabound :saint:

[Edited on 7-29-2006 by Paula]

Bajabound

Baja Bernie - 7-29-2006 at 10:15 AM

Like your avitar and it somehow fits---a cactus having a fit.

flyfishinPam - 7-29-2006 at 02:26 PM

This thread should be started again so that those of us who are truly interested in SMOKE FREE restaurants can get information on where to find them. The smokers who have posted inconsiderate comments here are off base. This is a good subject, one that I personally would like information on. The few times my husband and I or our children go out to dine, we look for places where we don't have to breathe in smoke. I don't mind smokers and their smoke in the right places but I do mind it when I'm trying to eat. I used to go to Amore at Villas de Loreto (hotel closed today) a lot becuse it was a completely non smoking property but now I just have to determine where the most ventilated place is as there are no eateries that are non smoking in Loreto...well not yet! I am considering on making my winter coffee shop a non smoking eatery now, as this fall we'll be adding a deli with sandwiches and deserts along with the fresh roasted coffee we've been serving for two years. So for me, the comments in this thread coming from concerned non smokers do have an impact on a business decision that we're in the process of making. We're in baja and this subject has everything to do with baja.

Bruce R Leech - 7-29-2006 at 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

Originally posted by flyfishinPam
This thread should be started again

Noticed that it was. I think this is a good alternative for this and any time in the future for those irritated by "their" thread becoming a natural conversation and wandering in directions they hadn't anticipated.

Quote:

there are no eateries that are non smoking in Loreto...well not yet! I am considering on making my winter coffee shop a non smoking eatery now, as this fall we'll be adding a deli with sandwiches and deserts along with the fresh roasted coffee we've been serving for two years. So for me, the comments in this thread coming from concerned non smokers do have an impact on a business decision that we're in the process of making. We're in baja and this subject has everything to do with baja.

From the other side of the counter, I think most restaurant owners DO respond to feedback. I have noticed changes in a couple of favorite restaurants in La Paz because of respectful complaints. If a long-time customer walks in to a restaurant with a group and informs the proprietor that regretfully they can't eat there today because of the smoke, then walks to the competition, that communicates a message.

--Larry

as an ex restaurant owner I agree with you. I always took action on every complaint.

Paula - 7-29-2006 at 07:27 PM

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I always enjoy the conversational tone of the Nomad threads. Conversations do sometimes become prickly, and it is all part of communication among any group of people, whether face to face or more anonomously. The occasional good natured jab is irresitable (Bruce, I really do enjoy your creative spelling and hope it always remains so), and I hope that any testiness on my part stops way short of hurt or offense to any fellow member.

I had thought of starting a thread that discussed the issues of staying on topic, being polite, being honest, etc. It seems to come up from time to time in various threads, such as this one, and perhaps that is enough.

On smoking, I'm an ex smoker, and the longer I'm away from it the less I enjoy the scent. Most Loreto restaurants (and our Loreto house!) are well ventilated or outdoors, and I find it to be a non-issue. I know some people are allergic, or that it can be a family issue, and I respect their feelings.

Paula - 7-29-2006 at 08:47 PM

What drink is this Larry, and does anyone else ever order it?? :?:

Dave - 7-29-2006 at 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by Paula
What drink is this Larry, and does anyone else ever order it?? :?:

Apparently, not at the same time. :rolleyes:

Bruce R Leech - 7-29-2006 at 09:43 PM

If I were you I would just start taking my own glass. :light:

after all it is Mexico

Paula - 7-29-2006 at 10:09 PM

Well, yes. I sure don't want a drink in a broken glass!

not to worry

Dave - 7-29-2006 at 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by Paula
Well, yes. I sure don't want a drink in a broken glass!

That one is reserved for Larry. :biggrin: