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Pole Line Road Maps?

roverdude - 9-8-2006 at 01:34 PM

I remember someone posted a couple of topo maps of Pole Line Road. I can't seem to find them on the forum nor in my files. Can anyone link me to those or re post. A group of us are going to consider this and some other trails/spots before the Baja 1000. Thanks, John

Neal Johns - 9-8-2006 at 03:41 PM

roverdude, here you go:

These are Baja Almanac maps marked up. The Garmin North American basemap also has the PLR on it - plus or minus a half mile. The real topos are available from Map World - 7576 Clairemont Mesa Blvd. San Diego, CA
http://www.mapworld.com/

Questions? aridnealatearthlinkdotnet

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Neal Johns - 9-8-2006 at 03:42 PM

Map2 of 3

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Neal Johns - 9-8-2006 at 03:43 PM

Map 3 of 3

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David K - 9-8-2006 at 10:10 PM

Here another on the older Lower California Guidebook map...

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Ken Cooke - 9-9-2006 at 09:45 AM

I'm hosting Neal John's Discover Baja Article on the Pole Line Road. This will also offer plenty of great descriptions of this amazing road/trail.

Discover Baja - November-December 2000

westy - 9-9-2006 at 12:21 PM

Ken,
that Neal John's guy always writes good stuff.

Thanks for putting that up!



hi neal !

Is that you, Westy???

David K - 9-9-2006 at 01:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by westy
Ken,
that Neal John's guy always writes good stuff.

Thanks for putting that up!



hi neal !


As seen in this photo at Matomi Canyon, Feb. 2001 (with esposa Barbie, Wild Bill, jeans, LN, Bajaboy/Zac, Mexray and BajaBarb...

Wonderful!!!


roverdude - 9-9-2006 at 07:40 PM

Thanks! Plotted it on my latest edition of the Almanac. Any idea how many trail hour from the southern most part of Laguna Salida to the Hwy. Let's say 4 capable rigs. Well, actually 3 capable rigs and maybe a VW Thing.

Neal Johns - 9-9-2006 at 08:29 PM

If you don't get lost (easy to do!), an easy two days. If you pushed and got an early start and had no flats, etc., you could do it in one day but I never had and do not recommend it. Three days in more fun. Lots of things to explore on the way:

Explore Canyons Palomar (and Rancho Palomar) and Isabel.

Visiting Rancho Palmitas is a little iffy, they are not always friendly (seriously). If you go there, park at the crest overlooking the oasis and send a hot chick down to see if it is OK.:lol::lol::lol:

Explore the palm grove, grinding slicks, hunting blind upstream where you hit Jaquegel.

Go past Basketball Hill to see the dry waterfall where Enmedio joins Jaquegel.

If you must do a speed run, then do not go by Canyons Palomar and Isabel, instead go by Ejido Guardines de la Patria and straight south to Cajabuzo Junction.

Neal Johns - 9-9-2006 at 08:32 PM

A stock VW Thing may have a clearance problem on Basketball Hill. They don't have much fender room for bigger tires, I seem to recall.

Neal Johns - 9-9-2006 at 08:36 PM

Westy, you have been gone for over two years! Tell us a story.....

Ken Cooke - 9-9-2006 at 09:10 PM

Quote:
If you must do a speed run, then do not go by Canyons Palomar and Isabel, instead go by Ejido Guardines de la Patria and straight south to Cajabuzo Junction.


Scene from Guardines de la Patria (you won't miss those tall trees - they're the tallest things in the area):


That's the Sierra Juarez and the Guadalupe Cyn area in the background behind John and Wendell:


Cohabuzo Jnct. is behind the Jeeps in the distance:


[Edited on 9-10-2006 by Ken Cooke]

Ken Cooke - 9-9-2006 at 09:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by roverdude
Thanks! Plotted it on my latest edition of the Almanac. Any idea how many trail hour from the southern most part of Laguna Salida to the Hwy. Let's say 4 capable rigs. Well, actually 3 capable rigs and maybe a VW Thing.


If you reach the dirt at Hwy 2 outside of Mexicali by 9 a.m., you can make it to the "Perfect Cobblestone Hill" right before dusk - if you don't get lost along the way, only stopping for 10-100s and keeping your speed at the recommended 10 m.p.h. limit on this course.

Day 2 you can accomplish the rest of the trail, reaching the massive lower Jaquegel and driving across that wash towards Ejido Saldana. Note: It is easy to get lost trying to descend into Jaquegel - you will need a navigator to stay atop the berm to help guide your group across the mile wide wash. At Ejido Saldana, you will need GPS to help find Hwy 5 since the road snakes north, then west then north, then south, then east. Get a real early start - 7 a.m. on your last day should get you out, but there will be some footwork needed to connect you with the road since some portions will have you driving down the Jaquegel instead of on the road. Bringing a 2WD vehicle is a serious liability, and it would be safer to leave that rig at home. There are some serious hillclimbs that cannot be renegotiated in 2WD if a mistake is made. We had a Jeep teeter on a cliff and if it didn't have 4WD (or if the rig behind didn't have a winch) , the driver may have been injured badly. Take your time, this is a serious trail with real tough sections. If you drive this trail at night, you're taking your life in your own hands...:!:

Johnny - 9-9-2006 at 11:03 PM

Are any of you "off roaders" going down to help. It seems like motorcycles, jeeps, atvs would be really helpful in getting supplies / info in and out of the rural areas. It would be great if there could be a relief 1000 :) Just trying to help. Love.

westy - 9-9-2006 at 11:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Neal Johns
Westy, you have been gone for over two years! Tell us a story.....



........ Thats all I got is stories!
:smug:


........okay, lets see......oh, Ken will like this one.......I'll be driving the 1737 :bounce:JeepSpeed:bounce: of Steve Ghamari for him at the 1000.

[Edited on 9-10-2006 by westy]

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[Edited on 9-13-2006 by westy]

westy - 9-9-2006 at 11:34 PM

here she is....

[Edited on 9-10-2006 by westy]

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Ken Cooke - 9-19-2006 at 09:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by westyI'll be driving the 1737 :bounce:JeepSpeed:bounce: of Steve Ghamari for him at the 1000.


Can I borrow 1737 for a simple drive to the park to pick flowers???:light:

westy - 9-23-2006 at 07:13 AM

..........he's keeping 100% street legal, (he's kept all of his past JeepSpeeds street legal)
sssooooooooo,
yah, you will be able to drive it to the park to pick flowers.

David K - 9-23-2006 at 09:51 AM

Westy, I am really excited for you dude!

There is a small chance I will be pitting or radio relay at El Crucero (north of the L.A. Bay Jcn.)...

What section will you be driving/navigating?

westy - 9-24-2006 at 01:32 AM

We'll have a main pit and driver change at the junction.
I'll get in at San Ignacio and drive until somewhere around Ciudad Constitution/ St. Rita area.
If she makes it that far.:saint:

[Edited on 9-24-2006 by westy]

David K - 9-24-2006 at 05:00 PM

Hope it's low tide if you are allowed to run the beach road (like Parnelli Jones)!

In the early days of the Mexican (Baja) 1000, Parnelli pre ran and marked the safe route across the flats with reflectors on stakes (it would be dark here during the race) and then ran them over during the race, should he be delayed before La Paz and not help a competitor to beat him.

What ever road you race on, have a great and successful race... I wish you loads of luck and good fun...