BajaNomad - no fishing In Mulege

no fishing In Mulege

Bruce R Leech - 9-11-2006 at 09:07 AM

the health dept. is not allowing boating and fishing for at least one month from Santa Rosalia to way south of Mulege. one person has already been fined 30,000 pesos .

Russ - 9-11-2006 at 10:05 AM

More info?

Bruce R Leech - 9-11-2006 at 10:08 AM

sorry I don't know how to make it more clear than I did.

If you have questions then ask questions.

[Edited on 9-11-2006 by Bruce R Leech]

Russ - 9-11-2006 at 10:14 AM

Oh, I understood! Just would like to k know who infoormed you. We have had word of a one week closuer.

Bruce R Leech - 9-11-2006 at 10:18 AM

my info comes from the Health dept. here in Mulege and they said 1 month and possibly more

Russ - 9-11-2006 at 10:21 AM

Thanks

Bruce R Leech - 9-11-2006 at 10:24 AM

My guess is that that can change at any time. they are testing the water every day and working hard to get the city sewer systems up and ruining in both cites

Hook - 9-11-2006 at 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
My guess is that that can change at any time. they are testing the water every day and working hard to get the city sewer systems up and ruining in both cites

Bruce, this may be your most humorous spelling error yet. :lol:

But thanks for the info.......it is important stuff.

Brenda Goodson - 9-11-2006 at 04:10 PM

I WAS ASKED TODAY BY BOB FRAMBES TO INQUIRE ABOUT THIS NO FISHING COMMENT.

ALL COMERCIAL FISHING HAS BEEN HAULTED BY THE BOARD OF HEALTH HERE IN SANTA ROSALIA.
THE REASON BEING, HELLO, WE HAVE NO WATER IN SANTA ROSALIA, TILL LAST NIGHT AT 11:30. THAT WAS 8 DAYS.

THE WATER QUALITY NOW IS VERY POOR. I AM STILL HAULING MY WATER FOR THE CASITAS FROM SAN BRUNO, IN A BORROWED TANK IN THE BACK OF MY TRUCK.

IT WILL TAKE DAYS FOR THE WATER TO CLEAR AND PASS INSPECTION.
YES, WE DO HAVE WATER TESTING HERE.

SPORT FISHING IS NOT AFFECTED. I TALKED TO A GROUP OF FISHERMEN YESTERDAY IN SAN LUCAS COVE AND THEY SLAYED THEM OFF ISLA TORTUGA.

JUST MORE BAD RUMORS AGAIN.

Bruce R Leech - 9-11-2006 at 05:34 PM

still shut down here in Mulege and sport fishing also.

Bruce R Leech - 9-11-2006 at 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by Brenda Goodson
I WAS ASKED TODAY BY BOB FRAMBES TO INQUIRE ABOUT THIS NO FISHING COMMENT.

ALL COMERCIAL FISHING HAS BEEN HAULTED BY THE BOARD OF HEALTH HERE IN SANTA ROSALIA.
THE REASON BEING, HELLO, WE HAVE NO WATER IN SANTA ROSALIA, TILL LAST NIGHT AT 11:30. THAT WAS 8 DAYS.

THE WATER QUALITY NOW IS VERY POOR. I AM STILL HAULING MY WATER FOR THE CASITAS FROM SAN BRUNO, IN A BORROWED TANK IN THE BACK OF MY TRUCK.

IT WILL TAKE DAYS FOR THE WATER TO CLEAR AND PASS INSPECTION.
YES, WE DO HAVE WATER TESTING HERE.

SPORT FISHING IS NOT AFFECTED. I TALKED TO A GROUP OF FISHERMEN YESTERDAY IN SAN LUCAS COVE AND THEY SLAYED THEM OFF ISLA TORTUGA.

JUST MORE BAD RUMORS AGAIN.

Brenda I really take offense to your remark....JUST MORE BAD RUMORS AGAIN. what I rite here comes from the health Dept. it is not a rumor. I think that if you are basing your info on is what some fisherman did in some other town that would be a rumor. and maybe what they are doing in your town is deferent than here now but that still doesn't make me a lire like you Implied in your post . In your post you did not say where you got your Info. I did and I stand by it.

the facts just the facts

Bruce R Leech - 9-11-2006 at 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by Hook

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Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
My guess is that that can change at any time. they are testing the water every day and working hard to get the city sewer systems up and ruining in both cites

Bruce, this may be your most humorous spelling error yet. :lol:

But thanks for the info.......it is important stuff.

sorry Hook and no offense taken I like your humor, but some of the knife digging comments of others are getting to me as you can see I am not having a good week. some times the moor you try to help people the more some try to discredit you.

toneart - 9-11-2006 at 06:27 PM

Bruce,
I appreciate you and your spelling. The improtant thing is that you are giving vital information and are quoting your sources. This is not the only reason you are having a bad week. You and your family have been tested by Mother Nature and you have come out like the sun, shining.

I would like to be in denial regarding the no fishing, no boating edict by the Mulege Health Department, but at the moment, the rule is the reality.

Also, I would like to say that you provide a vital service in Mulege because there is no bank. I will continue to use your services, even though the % you take is not cheap. It is offset by the trip to Sta Rosalia to go to the bank, the time it takes to drive (50 minutes) and the gas consumed. The banks offer intolorable service and the wait is often hours. Now that Mulege has a major disaster, you are a bright beacon showing the way with verifyible information.
All the more reason for the community to support you and your business. I have heard other opinions, but I stand behind mine.
Tony :yes:

Bajaboy - 9-11-2006 at 06:29 PM

Bruce-
Is the health department saying that you shouldn't eat the fish? (catch and then sell/consume?) In otherwords, is it okay to catch and release?

Just curious-zac

Bob and Susan - 9-11-2006 at 06:37 PM

I wouldn't eat fish unless i was 60 miles out

think of all the dead animals and sewage fron the septic tanks in the water now.

i did see several boats comining and going saturday from the bay

Brenda Goodson - 9-11-2006 at 06:55 PM

I HAVE JUST SEEN ABOUT 15 BOATS GOING OUT OF THE HARBOR.

I AM NOT CALLING YOU A LIAR BUT IN YOUR POST YOU INDICATED THAT SANTA ROSALIA WAS IN YOUR INFO.

THE TELEPHONE NUMBER FOR THE OFFICE OF PESCA IN SANTA ROSALIA IS
01-615-15-21323.

ASK FOR BLANDINA, THE OFFICE MANAGER, OR MARTIN GONZALEZ, THE BOSS.

THEY CAN KEEP YOU UPDATED.

THANKS

BRENDA

Pescador - 9-11-2006 at 07:16 PM

So Brenda, are you saying the officials in Santa Rosalia said that sport fishing is OK but Commercial fishing is temporarily closed.
This amazes me. After having gone through Marty and Juliettta which caused a lot more flooding and destruction down south, the fishing was never shut down for 5 minutes on the East Cape, and now the Health Department in Mulege is saying no fishing or boating. Shoot lets flood the place out and then shut off the tourists and then everyone can have a really good time. :mad:

Bruce R Leech - 9-11-2006 at 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by Bajaboy
Bruce-
Is the health department saying that you shouldn't eat the fish? (catch and then sell/consume?) In otherwords, is it okay to catch and release?

Just curious-zac

as of this morning they were not letting boats out of the river. I talked to some of the sport fishing captions and they said that they could not take people out yet. I will try to get an up date from the health dept tomorrow. when I made the post yesterday they told me it included Santa Rosalia. I am just reporting what I here from the officials not what I see going in and out of the river.

Pescador - 9-12-2006 at 08:27 AM

This has to be the most insane thing to come out of the flood. First, I called the office and in my simple understanding of the way the law works in Mexico is that the Health Department would make a suggestion to the department of Fisheries or Pesca. (Guess I really do not know if that is the case, even though that is the case here in the United States) Because of where we live, I have become a certified water operator so I am fairly up on the treatment of drinking water and liquid waste disposal. Of course when I am in Mexico for 6 months, I talk to people about what is going on down there.
Now we have the health department worried about the presence of E coli, Giardia, Cryptosporidium, and other bugs in the water like Hepatitus A. But if you look at the sewae disposal of both Mulege and Santa Rosalia, I'll bet you do not find anything more than a settling tank before things are sent out into the ocean. Normally this works probably pretty well, or at least well enough to get by. When I asked about sewage disposal of Mulege and the area on the south river like Oasis, Orchard, etc, I was told they have sewer. Well guess what, I have never seen a sewage treatment plant on that or the North side of the river. Guess where that goes? If by conservative estimates there are 1500 residents in Mulege that means around a ton of heavy sewage is being sent to the ocean every week.
Now as for municipal water for Mulege, I am in the dark about supply and all of that, but I do know that the water for Santa Rosalia comes from wells in the aquifer in the Palo Verde area. Since that supplies the water for our place in San Lucas Cove I started testing that water for chlorine residual to see if there was any chlorine in the water as stated by the water company. When I found over a 3 or 4 month period that there was no chlorine residual I discovered from a worker that the Chlorinator was broken and had been non-functional for almost two or three years.
So now I get a little grumpy because someone does not want me or the people who make a living from sportfishing to go out in the ocean because they are getting some high Bacteria counts by shore. There is certainly a lot of logic about commercial fishing like squid and the like if there is no water for processesing but for crying out loud leave the sportfishing guys alone who would like to just get back to normal and take some clients out.

Bruce R Leech - 9-12-2006 at 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by Pescador
This has to be the most insane thing to come out of the flood. First, I called the office and in my simple understanding of the way the law works in Mexico is that the Health Department would make a suggestion to the department of Fisheries or Pesca. (Guess I really do not know if that is the case, even though that is the case here in the United States) Because of where we live, I have become a certified water operator so I am fairly up on the treatment of drinking water and liquid waste disposal. Of course when I am in Mexico for 6 months, I talk to people about what is going on down there.
Now we have the health department worried about the presence of E coli, Giardia, Cryptosporidium, and other bugs in the water like Hepatitus A. But if you look at the sewae disposal of both Mulege and Santa Rosalia, I'll bet you do not find anything more than a settling tank before things are sent out into the ocean. Normally this works probably pretty well, or at least well enough to get by. When I asked about sewage disposal of Mulege and the area on the south river like Oasis, Orchard, etc, I was told they have sewer. Well guess what, I have never seen a sewage treatment plant on that or the North side of the river. Guess where that goes? If by conservative estimates there are 1500 residents in Mulege that means around a ton of heavy sewage is being sent to the ocean every week.
Now as for municipal water for Mulege, I am in the dark about supply and all of that, but I do know that the water for Santa Rosalia comes from wells in the aquifer in the Palo Verde area. Since that supplies the water for our place in San Lucas Cove I started testing that water for chlorine residual to see if there was any chlorine in the water as stated by the water company. When I found over a 3 or 4 month period that there was no chlorine residual I discovered from a worker that the Chlorinator was broken and had been non-functional for almost two or three years.
So now I get a little grumpy because someone does not want me or the people who make a living from sportfishing to go out in the ocean because they are getting some high Bacteria counts by shore. There is certainly a lot of logic about commercial fishing like squid and the like if there is no water for processesing but for crying out loud leave the sportfishing guys alone who would like to just get back to normal and take some clients out.

wow what a bunch of Bunk I hope you feel better after throwing out that huge batch of misinformation. the only true facts you have in your entire post are the info for the Santa Rosalia water supply. well where do we start.Hmmmmm

well first these guys here arnt from the health dept here in this county thank god. they are from Mexico and with the disaster relief and are given total authority over all local gov. these men really know what there doing and have done many things that have been needed for years such as fix your water chlorinate.

second of all our sewer flowed down to a collection basin and is pumped over the hills to a settlement pond well away from town.

our water comes from 2 wells to the west of town and is now being chlorinated after a long time without we now have sanitary seals on both wells thanks to these people

I don't have any more time to wast on people like you ,just do us all a favor and go back to Barstow or where ever you think things are so much better. we have people sick and dieing and you are complaining about you not being able to go fishing .

end of rant Bruce

bajaden - 9-12-2006 at 12:00 PM

Well said Bruce. We wouldn't want to spoil anyone's vacation would we? Some people I just don't get. .

Sharksbaja - 9-12-2006 at 12:29 PM

unfrickinbelievable

kingpin - 9-13-2006 at 08:08 AM

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Originally posted by toneart
Also, I would like to say that you provide a vital service in Mulege because there is no bank. I will continue to use your services, even though the % you take is not cheap. It is offset by the trip to Sta Rosalia to go to the bank, the time it takes to drive (50 minutes) and the gas consumed. The banks offer intolorable service and the wait is often hours. Now that Mulege has a major disaster, you are a bright beacon showing the way with verifyible information.
I have heard other opinions, but I stand behind mine.
Tony :yes:

Tell us, what was Bruces exchange rate just before the disaster. I have heard it called "criminal"? How about the price of those phone cards? You may appreciate it Tony, but I assure you there are many, many who don't. I wonder what the vig is going to be on him forwarding the donations for the disaster relief? If it is anything like his exchange rate 25% is probably not out of the question. No wonder he was hoping for rain.

comitan - 9-13-2006 at 08:55 AM

Kingpin

I have no idea what Bruce charges for his services, I don't think he goes out and twist peoples arm to do business with him,. enough said. As far as donations he will get them where they are needed, if there was ever a man too honest its Bruce.

[Edited on 9-13-2006 by comitan]

kingpin - 9-13-2006 at 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by comitan
Kingpin

I have no idea what Bruce charges for his services, I don't think he goes out and twist peoples arm to do business with him,. enough said. As far as donations he will get them where they are needed, if there was ever a man too honest its Bruce.

[Edited on 9-13-2006 by comitan]

Comitan,
I the states, when people drasticly inflate their prices in an emergency it is called price gouging and is a crime. I do realize however that things like that are more acceptable in Mexico. People still don't like it though. I bet if Bruce posted his rates, more people here might question your post though.

Hose A, what the el are you talking about? If you are implying what I think you are you owe me an ap
ology.

jerry - 9-13-2006 at 10:45 AM

hea kingpin did you donate to sharks relief fund?? i did knowing that bruce was involved in where it was going ill vote for bruce any time

Cypress - 9-13-2006 at 10:53 AM

Fishing? With people dealing with probably the worst disaster in their lifetime? Jeez!

Bruce R Leech - 9-13-2006 at 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by kingpin

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Bruce's exchange rate just before the disaster. was 10.50
Bruce's rate sense the disaster is 10.50

Bruce's prices on the phone cards is and always has been the face value on the cards.

Bruce has not handled and will not handle any cash donations for flood relief and people like you kingpin are the reason why

Kinkpin I see you live in Chapultipec. so we are going to be Living just down the street when I get settled up there. cant wait to meet you.

[Edited on 9-13-2006 by Bruce R Leech]

comitan - 9-13-2006 at 01:17 PM

Cypress - 9-13-2006 at 01:30 PM

That old highway goes on for ever!

kingpin

Baja Bernie - 9-13-2006 at 01:31 PM

Real cheap shot that really missed its mark.

Bruce just shrug your shoulders, consider the source and the silliness of it all during a very traumatic time.

BAJAmerican - 9-13-2006 at 01:50 PM

Note to Admin: "flaming" is really counterproductive to some critical issues here. Just a suggestion for exercising editorial privilege.

The issue here is health. In the case of doubt as to official and / or independently verifiable information... can we agree that it might be prudent to "Eat the fish :wow:

at your own risk!!" and don't whine if you get sick by ignoring well-meant info, whether fact OR rumor. The same goes for meat and poultry locally.
The Town has created a centralized kitchen for Everyone, Mexicans AND American residents... WHY? To keep (potentially) contaminated food out of the population. They are serving 900+ meals per day.
Many Americans are eating in restaurants, not the community kitchen. Where did that restaurant food come from? When? Was it unfrozen during the blackout?
People are people - many have their livelihoods interrupted, whether fishing or restaurants. What others do is beyond individual control. We can control what WE eat, and where, and when. Let the chips/ chunks fall where they may. :?:

Sharksbaja - 9-13-2006 at 01:57 PM

Just plain ol' common sense would help. Think hard!

kingpin

Bruce R Leech - 9-13-2006 at 03:16 PM

you have gone way to far on your posts and it is time some one made an example of people like you . you think you can hide behind the Internet and slander anyone you want and they cant touch you. well those days are over for you. do your self a big favor and get a lawyer and check into the slander laws in Mexico. they are quit deferent than in the USA. I know several people that have been fined and deported for less than you have posted here. I have copied all of your posts and have more than enough witnesses and now I know exactly where you live and who you are thanks to some that you thought were your friends. I and my Lawyer will be presenting all of this to the judge and the Dept. of Immigration in Ensenada in about a week.

good Luck
Bruce

[Edited on 9-14-2006 by Bruce R Leech]