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flyfishinPam - 9-14-2006 at 05:07 PM

Hi there,

I'd like to see a weather fourm so that folks like me can monitor storms get advice, etc instead of having to sift through posts in the general forum. I think it would be very helpful.

Thanks,

Pam Bolles

bajajudy - 9-14-2006 at 05:13 PM

Pam, I agree.
Especially this time of year.

roundtuit - 9-14-2006 at 05:22 PM

Easy www.wunderground.com Top left hand corner type in La Paz or Santa Rosalia look for Hurricanes A

Anonymous - 9-14-2006 at 05:35 PM

roundtuit you missed the point again.

What is wanted is a forum to discuss current weather with first hand knowledge and experience not guess work from someone looking at photos.

Judy -- Pam is this correct ? Is this what you are asking about ?

Anonymous - 9-14-2006 at 05:55 PM

I hope you all we b ok

DENNIS - 9-14-2006 at 06:01 PM

How does anybody get into these threads without being registered?

DENNIS - 9-14-2006 at 06:07 PM

I see ......... Thanks

BajaNomad - 9-14-2006 at 06:57 PM

Pam & Judy,

Questions for you:

1. What specifically do you see yourself using it for?
2. When - or under what circumstances - do you see it being used?

I fear it won't be used - the thought being we could use it for emergency weather issues - like we're experiencing now.... only thing is, when threre's an emergency, everyone reactively/instinctively/whatever goes straight to the General Discussion forum - probably because it's perceived to have the most readers due to the # of posts.

That's why there are "other" topics in the General Discussion area from Hurricane John issues over the past two weeks - and why I didn't move them elsewhere.

Your thoughts - and that of others - are welcomed.

I was thinking it might not work out as intended... but....

:?:

--
Doug




[Edited on 9-15-2006 by BajaNomad]

roundtuit - 9-14-2006 at 07:42 PM

How many topic places do you expect Doug to have any how many pepole go to a speciific place to ck this weather that happens in the fall. We have todays posts that tells us weather, road conditions, and other topics of our interest

Anonymous - 9-14-2006 at 07:53 PM

:coolup: Perhaps it would be useful to have a prominent link to Baja/Mexico weather. There are many. One example is
http://www.bajainsider.com/weather/tropical-watch-weather.ht...
Then it could be discussed on another existing forum. Maybe just adjust
road conditions forum to read road/weather conditions.:light:

bbbait - 9-14-2006 at 07:53 PM

That was imbecilic on Round's behalf. Maybe he started happy hour sooner than some. But for i.e., the San Felipe website offers a complete weather page, and I for one bookmark it and then go from there..... I would welcome it here! Wayno

Bruce R Leech - 9-14-2006 at 08:05 PM

I'm still thinking about this one. I kind of leaning in Doug's direction right now Ill let you know tomorrow.:light:

Sharksbaja - 9-14-2006 at 08:09 PM

I think a Wunderground link would be swell and save me/us lots of time:light:

vandenberg - 9-14-2006 at 08:11 PM

Shouldn't it be enough to just post the name of the storm and everyone contribute their experience/knowledge of what's going on ? The events of John in Mulege got kind of poluted with everyone starting their own thread instead of just staying with the storm's events. Hard to follow what's going on that way.

Shimmer - 9-14-2006 at 08:12 PM

Here is great link from Bajainsider... all the updated info on one page

http://www.bajainsider.com/weather/hurricanes/2006/hurricane...

Many times he will comment on the reports from NOAH.

roundtuit - 9-14-2006 at 08:14 PM

Amen !!!! Use the computer use your knowledge

I keep the following link right next to Nomads

vgabndo - 9-14-2006 at 08:29 PM

http://www.eebmike.com/

There is plenty of info. there, and the Nomad general forum fills in with the "my hat just blew off" information I also want to hear.

My dos centavos.

Anonymous - 9-14-2006 at 09:07 PM

:D I like the animation at the bottom of eebmike vgabndo. Looks like it's breaking up some and a little east.

longlegsinlapaz - 9-14-2006 at 09:20 PM

Initially, I thought a weather forum would be a good idea, but after about 15 seconds of thought, I realized that I always just head for "Today's Posts". The likelihood of +24 hours of something like a storm, hurricane or natural disaster occuring without people posting to keep it current is virtually nil! Not to mention that there's always a few rebels <<(was THAT PC or WHAT?) who start multiple new threads on the same topic....but I'm NOT going there!:no:

vgabndo: I hope you find your hat! :spingrin::tumble::spingrin::tumble:

roundtuit - 9-14-2006 at 09:24 PM

bbbait ck your u2u

JESSE - 9-14-2006 at 10:04 PM

I don't think one is necessary, it would only be used a few months a year.

sunchaser - 9-15-2006 at 04:54 AM

I agree that "Todays Posts" is the best way to track weather issues on this forum. We each need to watch the weather info most relevant to our area... for me it's the eebmike.com, NHC and wunderground sites.

bajajudy - 9-15-2006 at 06:38 AM

OK
Now I agree with no special forum. Like I said, it would be useful this time of year. But I do the "Today's Posts" too.
:dudette:

http://www.escapist.com/baja/wwwlinks.htm

villadelfin - 9-15-2006 at 07:52 AM

Did some browsing on the homepage for bajanomad.com and after considerable digging, voila there was a links page for weather from many sources. Should the link be put on the forums page or something?

flyfishinPam - 9-15-2006 at 10:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaNomad
Pam & Judy,

Questions for you:

1. What specifically do you see yourself using it for?
2. When - or under what circumstances - do you see it being used?

I fear it won't be used - the thought being we could use it for emergency weather issues - like we're experiencing now.... only thing is, when threre's an emergency, everyone reactively/instinctively/whatever goes straight to the General Discussion forum - probably because it's perceived to have the most readers due to the # of posts.

That's why there are "other" topics in the General Discussion area from Hurricane John issues over the past two weeks - and why I didn't move them elsewhere.

Your thoughts - and that of others - are welcomed.

I was thinking it might not work out as intended... but....

:?:

--
Doug




[Edited on 9-15-2006 by BajaNomad]


Hi there,

I would like to see a specific forum where weather related topics are posted. This could enable me and others to sort through the clutter, especially the personal dialogues that go on here. I live in Loreto and am directly affected. I also think homeowners in Baja who happen not to be here this time of year could benefit as well. The threads could discuss individual storms, road closures, port closures, delays, all pertinent weather related information. There could also bed threads on tips to prepare for storms, survivor lists, relief efforts.

I don't look at the today's posts and sometimes I look up information that was posted a long time ago. But hey, I'm only one person.

Pam

flyfishinPam - 9-15-2006 at 11:04 AM

Baja Private Aircraft Travel = 229 posts
Baja Diving and Snorkeling = 184 posts
Baja Camping = 191 posts
Baja Whale Watching = 150 Posts
Baja Windsurfing and Kayaking = 90 posts
Baja Golfing = 88 posts
Baja Travel Packages = 13 posts
Baja Business Opportunities = 88 posts
Baja Travel companions = 132 posts

Tropical Storm John (in general forum) = 558 posts

flyfishinPam - 9-16-2006 at 06:45 AM

Doug,

in putting more thought into this I (for one) would be curious about specific weather related information from other parts of the peninsula, even outside active time periods. Believe it or not in the case of North winds, hearing about incoming winds in Mulege or Sta. rosalia or even san Felipe would help me to predict when they would affect us in Loreto. also you would not believe the amount of people who come here in winter and are shocked at how cold it can get, or how windy it is. some folks can base decisions on where and when to be retired or on extended stays in their southern locations. going to any number of the internet weather related websites is not the same, and inferior of getting first hand information. In the case of Loreto, weather reports posted online most of the year are often a waste of programming energy and we still have to play it day to day, even with buoyweather. just some thoughts.

Pam

Weather or not???

Phil S - 9-16-2006 at 07:17 AM

I agree with Pam. Since we spend about six to seven months out of the year in Baja during the winter, having the weather in my needs would be great. I can see it being a great tool for Pam's business, also. And a quick response if anyone just wants "that" information without having to search through the 'todays topics'.
Good job Pam!! Have you moved to the old bar location yet, next to the taxis stand?

Worldtraveller - 9-16-2006 at 06:25 PM

I think Pam makes a good point.


Quote:
Originally posted by flyfishinPam
Baja Private Aircraft Travel = 229 posts
Baja Diving and Snorkeling = 184 posts
Baja Camping = 191 posts
Baja Whale Watching = 150 Posts
Baja Windsurfing and Kayaking = 90 posts
Baja Golfing = 88 posts
Baja Travel Packages = 13 posts
Baja Business Opportunities = 88 posts
Baja Travel companions = 132 posts

Tropical Storm John (in general forum) = 558 posts

Cypress - 9-17-2006 at 05:39 AM

Why not? Weather affects everybody.:yes:

flyfishinPam - 9-17-2006 at 06:13 AM

I've been turned on to some great weather related websites that I otherwise wouldn't have had patience to find myself. Also my bajabigfish.com would definately point to the weather fourm as another quick reference tool. I also really like the idea of "real time" weather related dicsussions.

I just made a post on the Off Topic fourm hinting that it should be shut down and replaced with this. My reasons being that it has gotten extremely boring in there the past few months (for reasons that I won't go into) and riddled with little more than personal insults, etc. Also besides the bore factor in there, the political B.S. spills over to the other fourms and folks in those areas may not appreciate or understand some on the "off topic-like" comments that end up getting posted.

I vote to change the Off Topic fourm to a Baja Weather Fourm!

[Edited on 9-17-2006 by flyfishinPam]

flyfishinPam - 9-17-2006 at 07:00 AM

They're already in the general fourms. I think if the OT goes away they may go away too. Besides these are moderated forums and political posts unreleated to baja should be eliminated.

BajaNomad - 9-17-2006 at 09:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by flyfishinPam
in putting more thought into this I (for one) would be curious about specific weather related information from other parts of the peninsula, even outside active time periods. Believe it or not in the case of North winds, hearing about incoming winds in Mulege or Sta. rosalia or even san Felipe would help me to predict when they would affect us in Loreto. also you would not believe the amount of people who come here in winter and are shocked at how cold it can get, or how windy it is. some folks can base decisions on where and when to be retired or on extended stays in their southern locations. going to any number of the internet weather related websites is not the same, and inferior of getting first hand information. In the case of Loreto, weather reports posted online most of the year are often a waste of programming energy and we still have to play it day to day, even with buoyweather.
Sounds like maybe there needs to be a well-researched and drilled-down Baja-specific weather links page here?

BajaNomad - 9-17-2006 at 10:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by flyfishinPam
I think if the OT goes away they may go away too.
I believe that not to be the case - and that's what manifested the creation of the off-topic forum here.

And - in my opinion - that forum has succeeded (to an acceptable degree) in achieving the goal that it was intended for.

BajaNomad - 9-17-2006 at 10:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by lencho
There's a risk of making more work for Doug if off-topic were eliminated
Correction: there's certainty of more work if o/t were eliminated.

Quote:

This is a focused board but it's also a community gathering place; what do we do if a participating member of the community, feels the desire to discuss something other than Baja? I think the concept of an off-topic forum serves that need. The manifestation we have here, though, is pretty gross. A few self-indulgent posters have turned it into an unpleasant place that most board members don't want to participate in, even having a legitimate need.
Fully agreed.

--
Doug




[Edited on 9-17-2006 by BajaNomad]

Anonymous - 9-17-2006 at 10:35 AM

:cool: I'd like to point out that the Baja Road Conditions forum ia already a de facto weather forum. If there was no changing weather, there would be little for changing road conditions other than construction.:wow:

roundtuit - 9-17-2006 at 05:55 PM

WEATHER or not how soon we forget. Has 12 hrs even past. Yea put it in with road condition .if you want a spectfied area:cool::cool::cool:

flyfishinPam - 9-18-2006 at 10:45 AM

Section four of the board rules:

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This seems to be violated in the OT fourm all the time here are current examples:

Thread: "Fagabundo, Commietan are liars" in reference to two members of this board.

Thread: "What Liberals Really Want - Calling all Commies for comment!"
after the article subject of this post follows:

"Any comments from the Commies of this abode:

'Rundo?
'Turd?
Goober?
Pacocrap?
'Lera?
Nasty Dildo?
Fish Face Pam?
toneFart?
Old Hippie Zoe?
BajaPus?
Jessisito-Amtulah?
Jeffie-coward?
"

in reference to members of this board.

I believe that if the fourm exists it encourages and welcomes those folks that we don't really want around to stay around and continue posting. Part of the problem that the Amigos board had was that they did not remove posts from those who posted politically unrelated to baja posts. They clogged up the board to the point that most folks gave up on it. I agree that having an area for the OT here keeps them out of the general fourms for the most part, but their comments and hate spill over to other forums and turn folks off and worse, they prevent new folks from posting their experiences in fear of being attacked. another point that I just remembered is that a few good posters have left this fourm alltogether and I really miss some of the relative information they were able to present. I can think of one right off the top of my head that was so harassed she stopped posting about two years ago.

while I certainly don't mind being challenged, I do not appreciate being called names in hopes to provoke a response from me. To me it is nothing more than provocation for a fight and I really don't have time for it. In a perfect world we would be able to carry on a mature dialogue and discussion but OT has regressed into a junior high school playground. Its too bad as I enjoyed talking to folks in there at one time as I am surrolunded by Spanish speakers who see things differently and I don't have lots of opportunity to discuss many things relating to the way I grew up and have experienced anymore.

In giving a higher workload to Doug by removing OT, Doug can delegate those tasks to other people like Fred Matcalf does and is quite successful with it. He has several volonteers that remove the garbage soon after it becomes posted. Now if posts were reviewed prior to appearing there would be less posts because folks prefer the reel time environment. there are thousands of political fourms folks can focus their energy on. It doesn't belong in the Baja related forum. Just my dos centavos.

[Edited on 9-18-2006 by flyfishinPam]

[Edited on 9-18-2006 by flyfishinPam]

Cypress - 9-18-2006 at 11:24 AM

Weather reports are only important if they apply to your location. Right now, right here, its cloudy, 45 degrees, looks like it could snow. I know! This is a Baja forum. Just wanted to let all my amoeba's down there to see how lucky they are! ;D

windgrrl - 9-18-2006 at 06:35 PM

How about a natural (and maybe an un-natural disaster) forum? After all, drought, earthquakes and man-made violence seem to carry some interest! And then maybe a random acts of kindness forum to balance things. off. :spingrin:

Pam's Crusade

MrBillM - 9-19-2006 at 09:20 AM

No offense to the Moslems. I don't want Dynamite Diaperman showing up at my front door.

It's interesting how emotive free-speech loving Liberals can become in their efforts to curtail words that they disagree with.

Why is it when the subject of offensive conduct on Television or elsewhere comes up, that the Liberals are quick to counter that you can simply ignore it, change channels or turn it off, but in this case they (at least Pam) wish for it to be stomped on harshly so that they don't have to view it ?

Just wondering.

vandenberg - 9-19-2006 at 10:19 AM

Windgrrl

They actually have a "random acts of kindness" forum in the Toronto Star.

windgrrl - 9-19-2006 at 05:54 PM

Thanks, Vandenberg! Worth checking out.

surfer jim - 9-19-2006 at 07:47 PM

weather forum sounds like a good idea....

Anonymous - 9-20-2006 at 06:27 AM

OK I have finally realized that gossip and name calling at bajanomad.com holds more importance than factual information on Baja and Mexico. This is too bad. I love Mexico and Baja. y esto es mi ultima commentario en este foro, para los amigos de verdad, adios.

surfer jim - 9-20-2006 at 12:44 PM

If I knew who you are I might say goodbye.....:biggrin:

And don't let the door............

MrBillM - 9-20-2006 at 02:05 PM

.........Well, you know the rest.

comitan - 9-20-2006 at 02:51 PM

well Bill you did it again.