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Campo Rene

DianaT - 2-13-2007 at 08:21 PM

Can anyone tell us something about Campo Rene near Punta Abreojos?

Thanks
Diane

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Capt. George - 2-14-2007 at 03:00 AM

yeah, it's great! they got little cabins, just a place to rest your head. Hot showers and banjos.

They also have Tiki huts if you have a camper...estero Coyote is beautiful, there's an oyster farm there, see Torlino, hola from Vikingo! Really need a boat for any fishing. small is good.

About 7 miles to Abreojos, again stop by and say hi to Deborah.

Town has a tire shop, a number of marcados, couple of restaurants, harware stores, internet cafe. And lots and lots of really good people!

have a safe and great trip George

Capt. George - 2-14-2007 at 03:01 AM

oh yeah, a restaurant at the camp, hit and miss. Depends on who is working....

capt. mike - 2-14-2007 at 05:04 AM

wow that place has grown George since my last landing there in 1981!!
those huts/little shacks were for the hoars who serviced the road builders according to Jimmy Smith.........., R.I.P.

Capt. George - 2-14-2007 at 05:10 AM

yeah, sure has!

musta been loaded with fish back in '81?

a great hide away & close to Ojos

abreojos - 2-14-2007 at 06:44 AM

Don't go with expectations of comfort. Those rooms are old and run down. I am sure the bed stinks, especially if you have back problem. There really isn't anything better in town either. Chello"s is nice, but the beds stink there too. You can rent a small boat to fish the estero, but since esteros are nurseries for the ocean...well the fishing is good and catch & release should have been inforced a long time ago. If you like the boonies, you'll like Campo Rene. My place is in front of the lighthouse. Nothing there and I'm in Cabo, but take a walk around and check out the view. I put a pile of rocks in the driveway so you can't drive in, but you are welcome to walk up and see for yourself. Let me know what you think when you get back and have a great trip. Love to get up there myself, but duty and bills call.

Capt. George - 2-14-2007 at 07:05 AM

if you're in a camper, the palapas are great to camp next to.

at 10 bucks a night (?) maybe 15, ya can't expect much and the location is special.

george

rts551 - 2-14-2007 at 07:08 AM

The cabins, although rustic, are being/have been renovated. New people there who have really cleaned the place up. New cook (Yolanda) who is doing a good job. It is still far from a for star hotel but getting better.

DianaT - 2-14-2007 at 09:30 AM

As always, Thanks for the replies. Good information! Even though this trip will be FAR too short, we really look forward to going to an area where we have not been before.

We don't have our camper, (will miss it) just a shell on our Tundra---but we are taking camping stuff---tent for the stuff and futon for the back of the Truck---we don't want to sleep on the ground anymore, we may never be able to get up. :tumble:

So, we plan on staying in motels and or camping depending on where we are and the conditions.

Off to pack!
Diane

Hook - 2-14-2007 at 09:36 AM

So, what would fishing be like outside the estero in mid-March? Is that a tame time for the surf?

Is the fishing better up at La Bocana at that time?

Have a great trip, Diane, and thanks again for that Panama website.

Capt. George - 2-14-2007 at 10:13 AM

winter fishing is anybodys guess!

BajaDanD - 2-14-2007 at 04:46 PM

We are going there in March leaving Az. on the 16th and comming home on the 25th My wife and I have never been there but the people we are going with some of them have. cant wait just 30 more days to wait. We plan on stopping at Ojo de liebre and camp one night there do some whale watching then driving to Campo Rene later that day. We should get there late Sunday after noon. Stay tell Friday then start heading home.
DAND

Capt. George - 2-14-2007 at 05:13 PM

go into Abreojos and say hi to Deborah....ask Chelo at Chelos Pizza how to get there, actually ask just about anyone in town...

I'm sure Deborah will enjoy the company.

fishinsteve - 2-14-2007 at 10:36 PM

Hey George,
Do you know many or any of the lobster fishermen in abreojo's? Many years ago I fished with a guy named Fousto. I can remember this guys name because the hurricane that left the day before we got there was named Fousto. I plan on going to abreojos at the end of september.

fishinsteve - 2-15-2007 at 12:44 AM

Thanks for the info. I will look him up. He's a good skipper and seems like a nice guy. I'm curious how much has changed at abreojo's since I was there last. The last time I was there we were not welcome by all. Somebody wrote some negitive stuff on our truck useing their finger and our dust on the truck

Capt. George - 2-15-2007 at 02:52 AM

something written on your truck? probably one of us northerners! just ain't their style in Abreojos.....no mean bones.

Listen to Glenn, a walking almanac of Abreojos. That's how I wound up there...Thanks Whistler, boy oh boy, ain't you happy. Wait'll I start writing travelogs!!! Taking some correspondance courses from GK

Gallo a grandpa?? his spindly little girl?? I'm sure it ain't Gallito!

Deborah in AZ, 2 more days in Sweetwater Campground, outside Chula Vista...........adios

abreojos - 2-15-2007 at 07:04 AM

Fausto is a great guy. One of his lobster traps washed up on shore full of lobster one day. I grabbed them took them to the co-op and he ended up giving me a couple. Hard worker. I have never fished with him, but I hear good things. Gorilla is another good choice if Fausto is booked up.

Capt. George - 2-15-2007 at 08:40 AM

oh yeah, Gorilla, Paco Zuniga, one of the sweetest families I've come to know...a good, true friend.

A great mero fisherman....and loves the hook and line.

say hello from Vikingo

Hook - 2-15-2007 at 06:05 PM

What are the months for the lobby season, Whistler? The months with "r"?

fishinsteve - 2-15-2007 at 06:12 PM

Whistler, Best I can figure it was 10-12 years ago. Just the one event and no other problems. It just kinda freaked me out for the rest of the trip cuz I didn't know what to exspect. We were treated very well by everyone we came in contact with, even had dinner with one of the local familys. Great people. As far as getting a pangalero its not needed I have a kayak. I heard they moved the dump so that should be better. We use to stay be the old light house but this next trip we will be staying at someone lot. I'm sure it has changed a whole bunch since I was there last.

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abreojos - 2-15-2007 at 07:46 PM

Really all you got to do is show up and ask. They are all a great bunch of characters. What is most important is the tackle you take and be sure to bring extra because they are going to need some too.

Pescador - 2-17-2007 at 06:13 PM

We just had friends who just came back yesterday and stopped at Campo Rene. They are now "trying" to charge $50 for one of the little shacks or $15 for a camper under a palapa. Our friends just laughed and then went in to Abreojos and stayed at Chelo's and paid $28 a night and figured that was one of the nicest motel rooms they had stayed in.

Russ - 2-17-2007 at 07:09 PM

That is so sad! I had a great time there last May.

Capt. George - 2-18-2007 at 02:57 AM

$50? :fire: Man that is sick! 10/15 OK, a place to rest your head...

that'll finish them..........at fifty bucks, I hope it does.

rts551 - 2-18-2007 at 07:16 AM

WoW. I need to check...Just last month it was 10-15 depending on who you were. I'll talk with Nardo (the owner in GN) and find out what is going on. At that rate no one will go there

abreojos - 2-18-2007 at 07:18 AM

They think you are all rich if you drive a new vehicle down there and throw money around like you are. I told them the rich could buy 1000 new vehicles and still have plenty of money left over.
You all know it is a contest in Abreojos to see who can get the most gifts from the gringos to prove how smart they are, don't you?

Darn

Baja Bernie - 2-18-2007 at 07:36 AM

Tthis is one of the greatest posts I have read in months................almost all of it so positive and painting the locals as they should be painted.................as friends.

Thanks to all of you for refilling my 'life' tanks.

rts551 - 2-18-2007 at 07:40 AM

Abreojos - I don't get the feeling its that way at all. Sorry you left them with the impression that we are all so rich - Most AmericansI know (there are a few exceptions) live/go there because it is such a nice place.. not to shower the locals with gifts. and I certainly wish we could buy a thousand new cars. I certainly can't.

abreojos - 2-18-2007 at 07:57 AM

I did not give them that impression. I tried to explain the difference to them who was rich or not. For them a new car means cash, not 0 down, 0 interest for 6 months and $1,500 rebate on a 5 year loan. I fit in there a little differently than most and this is not a bad thing. But it is a fact, even if you haven't seen it and it does not apply to everyone. Abreojos for the most part is a good place, but take a look at what is going on with my trailer. They took it off my property without my permission, have not paid for it and are renting it out now. What do you call that? Good neighbors? The delegation knows about this, including the police and they alow it to happen because I am not rich and they know it and certain people like to control everything that goes on there including you!

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Capt. George - 2-18-2007 at 08:16 AM

abreojos, they? who are they?

we should all know that,

Those that screwith, should be screwed...so the bad book says.

abreojos - 2-18-2007 at 08:26 AM

George, it is Marco's family and although it's a long list and it just they way these people are, have been and are going to continue to be. Several people from this board were looking for a trailer to buy in Abreojos, I have one, but when they contacted Martin asking if he knew of one his family was not trying to sell it, pay for it or ask me if it was ok to rent it. All you can do is be aware of this and play it to your advantage. To the men, a cabrone is someone intellegent. To the women he is someone who lies, cheats and steals. That's the attitude.

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rts551 - 2-18-2007 at 09:37 AM

Abreojos my friend. Don't know about you trailer but I do know these people. Gifts come in many ways. An abalone dinner, lobster dropped off at the door step, someone bringing un seis de tecate just to talk on the porch, a baseball game with friends, invitation to all the fiestas, policia dropping by just to see if everything is OK, trip to Loreto (free) after a friend wrecked his quad and hit his head, unhastled fishing on the beach, invitations to fish from the pangas, free breakfast at Las Palmas after too much the night before, and on and on. Think I'll stay

Capt. George - 2-18-2007 at 09:45 AM

the ying and yang or is it,

the yingo and yango in Mexico??

abreojos - 2-18-2007 at 07:42 PM

No doubt about it, I've experienced the same, but that still doesn't change anything. That's why we have let things slide this long. We keep hoping it all ends up ok. But everytime I think about it, I keep coming to the conclusion; with friends like that who needs enemies?

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abreojos - 2-18-2007 at 08:01 PM

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By the way,I heard you sold the trailer to Marcos.
Joe,why don't you tell people about your Friendly Whale tours.Your asking for donations on your pold website to help the kids in Abreojos and your latest venture,Villa Abreojos.

Cute...sounds like you have the problem, so let's hear it.

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rts551 - 2-19-2007 at 06:53 AM

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No doubt about it, I've experienced the same, but that still doesn't change anything. That's why we have let things slide this long. We keep hoping it all ends up ok. But everytime I think about it, I keep coming to the conclusion; with friends like that who needs enemies?

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How True Joe and its not Whistler with the problem...

abreojos - 2-19-2007 at 07:10 AM

One thing you got to admire about Mexicans, they understand the phrase "united we stand, divided we fall" This story goes much deeper than we have covered here. Sometimes I forget, or like to forget what is really going on. And going over it with you guys has reminded me what I am dealing with. Having my wife point out the difference among Mexicans helps. She is Mexican and it has taken her years to finially see me understand the people in Abreojos clearly. We have even had people who live in Abreojos tell us what I am trying to say here.
It is not an attack on anyone or these people are bad kind of deal. It just is the reality of what is going on. It is what makes Abreojos what it is. If you don't stand up to the bullies, they'll steamroll you. Bigger and stronger get you your way, just like the old days. The social structure in abreojos goes back hundreds of years because most of the people are from San Ignacio and it is the same there.

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shari - 2-19-2007 at 08:15 AM

OK, my two centavos here...I can really understand what you're getting at here Abreojos as things are explained in a very different light by a mexican spouse. What appears to be reality to a gringo...is simply....not....(not always but very often) I don't know diddely about your situation but I do know about the culture in our area and it is fickle indeed and very often a single powerful family DOES control more than one would think and if you go against the grain....look out...also its very true about the bullies steamrolling you...been there ....done that...thank Dios for my mexican husband to open my eyes to the REAL realities here. Screwed up but real...and ya gotta deal with it. But the beauty of nature here outweighs the weird stuff.

abreojos - 2-19-2007 at 08:23 AM

I was hoping you would say something Shari. That was worth a million. Thanks

shari - 2-19-2007 at 08:27 AM

I try to stay out of local politics but I know very well that being married to a local gives one a WHOLE new prospective on life in these parts...very interesting and so right about the San Ignacio thing...most families in these parts originally came from there...names are everything here...glad I'm married to an "Arce". I lived here 13 years before I married him and thought I knew most everything about baja culture...wrong....we just think we know but there is a whole different world inside their heads....that most of you will NEVER know even if you think you know. It's very complex and historical and difficult to believe but I now am beginning to understand it as I'm seeing it firsthand now. It is incredible what your so called "amigos" are capable of doing to you...even family members....very strange & sad...but true. But I don't feel so bad as I also see it within their own families and friends...so it's not just that gringos are getting screwed...it's a national pastime historically....ni modo. Iflyfish has an interesting opinion on this.

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LarryK - 2-19-2007 at 05:06 PM

Did anyone confirm the rates at Campo Renee?
Thanks

abreojos - 2-19-2007 at 05:44 PM

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If they thought I was so wealthy why was I never charged for electricity in 14 years?I just started paying since the government took over.Maybe it has something to do with "Do unto others..."

We don't have to pay for the electricity or water because of a favor we did for the town and the government, but we did anyhow because it was only fair to do so since everyone in town except you were paying. Sorry buddy, you are still a little too green and not ripe yet! Who said you were wealthy and who are you anyway?

Capt. George - 2-19-2007 at 06:38 PM

in the words of the Great Rodney King,:bounce:

"can't we all just get along!!!!":lol:

abreojos - 2-19-2007 at 06:46 PM

Asking Pedro to not take arrowheads off my property and sell them for dope is more like it. If there were arowheads on your property, who would they belong to? I believe it is the Mexican government and the people of Mexico, not a bunch of deadbeats that steal them and take them back to the states to sell. Who ever you are you sure don't have the cahonies to say it. Anyway the favor isn't the point, paying my way and being fair is.

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Capt. George - 2-19-2007 at 06:48 PM

sorry Rodney!:moon:

abreojos - 2-19-2007 at 06:51 PM

Darn he ran off and hid again...

abreojos - 2-19-2007 at 07:16 PM

You still don't have the nerve to tell me who you are, and you think you know so much about me. What are you afraid of?
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rts551 - 2-19-2007 at 08:14 PM

Joe

Think back to about 5 years ago when you were asking for food because you had no money... any Gringos ring a bell. Gave you soup to take back to your trailer? Enough said. we have hijacked someone elses legitimate question about Campo Rene.

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abreojos - 2-19-2007 at 08:47 PM

You certainly have the right to your opinion, Glen. What has happened to you? This doesn't add up!
Like it or not these are facts and for some strange reason you are adding a lot of spin to this. They have had a chance to settle this and haven't. I don't expect them to pay for it if they can't, but I do expect them to sell it when there is a chance and they have chinged that twice at least. I have the title and the sale registered in the delegation with everyone there as whitnesses. We sold that trailer to pay debts from our whale venture. We expect the same curtisy.

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abreojos - 2-20-2007 at 07:21 AM

Glen, not true. They have about $3,000 down on a $6,000 sale. I've been back and called both Marco and the deligaton on a regular basis. Rigo Zuniga and Dom Abido have our phone number, so does the deligation. We have not taken the trailer back because of what happened to Marco, nor do we want it back. We want them to live up to their end of the bargan or sell it and pay us. I have e-mailed Martin several times with buyers interested. Martin has my e-mail & my phone number, no response, but I have a delivery receit and I know he has caller ID. Like I said from the beginning, we are trying to be patient & fair. If they want to keep this private, they need to respond or this will be very public, period. If they want respect, they need to give it, it's that simple.

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MARTYABJS - 2-21-2007 at 08:59 AM

joe repect the memory of marcos
we have known you for many years and your view point
is wrong we know you we can tell to everybody youre a lieyer marcos safe you and youre trailer because some people of la laguna wanna in jail to you because you didnt
pay for the trailer nad marcos pay for that

watch youre words before talk.

comitan - 2-21-2007 at 11:56 AM

New daytime soap on BCS As the Abreojos Turns every day Mon. thru Fri. 2-3PM.

tripledigitken - 2-21-2007 at 11:59 AM

I'm beginning to think that the earthquakes were God's way of saying Chill Out.

:lol::lol::lol::yes::lol::lol::lol:

BOBBY - 2-21-2007 at 06:25 PM

Abrejojos clarification! After reading all the slanderous posts by Abrejojos Nomad regarding his "experiences" here in Abrejojos I feel compeled to set the record straight. I have had the good fortune to experience Abrejojos for over 30 years and to call the Arce clan my dearest friends. One could not find a finer man than the recently deceased Marcos Arce his brother Martin as well as EVERYONE in the family! Our wonderful Abrejojos Nomad arrived here a complete opportunist, first attempting to interface with any building done for "gringos" for a piece of the action, then forcing himself into co-op meetings in an attempt to convince the collectivo that he could get a "better price" for the seasons catch if they allowed him to negotiate new contacts up north. Our dear Abrejojos Nomad was constantly engaged in attempts to worm his way into any means to establish income here and most were taken back but to my amazement he was still treated with the courtesy and respect that is always so evident here. Even when our nomad ran out of money and desperation beset him he always found an open invitation for "comida" as well as a warm welcome. In the states someone would have quickly pulled the welcome mat and booted his butt but in Abrejojos (much to my amazement) he was always treated with courtesy, respect and friendship regardless of what an irritent he became. For "Mr. Abrejojos Nomad" opportunism came home in the form of an angry crew from Laguna San Ignacio demanding monies owed in another episode of failed opportunism, from which he had skedaddled when no one was the wiser. The creditors demanded anything of value and thus the trailer comes into the picture. The cornered rat had been trying to sell the trailer for some time at an inflated price with no takers, now turns to Marcos who out of kindness buys the old pile for more than it is worth to help with a 3500 US down payment on a balance of 2500US. The satisfied lynch mob departs, Mr. Abrejojos Nomad heads south for greener pastures with promises to provide the paperwork necessary so that Marcos can make the purchase legal (title& Sales Contract) at which point the balance is to be paid. Two years go by while Marcos waits for Joe (oops) to come back so he can finalize the sale, refusing to move or use the trailer since he is a man of his word but there is no contact from our "pequina raton". I can attest to his refusal to sell or move the trailer since I did on many occaisions attempt to convince him to deal with his frustration by selling it or using it as needed. He was steadfast stating that it was not right and he would be patient. Finally our nomad arrives back here for one whirlwind week and splits when Marcos refuces to pay the balance without the title & sales receipt. Another year and Marcos finally moves the trailer into town after it has been broken into and here it sits awaiting Mr Abreojos' return. It is not sold...it is however finally being used and sits like a big sore close to the runway. To assault the memory of a fine man is shameful and to accuse the people of Abrejojos of questionable character, who did nothing but help our little Raton is inexcuseable. Gringos like our Abrejojos Nomad give every expat a bad name... but here in Abrejojos a man is still measured by his word and treated accordingly. I apoligize to all the nomads for my longwinded post but the people of Abrejojos deserve better. Bobby

abreojos - 2-21-2007 at 08:27 PM

Well the spin stops here Bobby who ever you are. Marco's was a good man and a good friend as is many people there. But my wife signed a note to pay a bill we owed in the Laguna and paid it on demand. Marco seized the oportunity to buy the trailer, which was not for sale until then, under terms we both agreed on and I paid the debt off. It initally was a win win situation until Marco fell sick. Many people in Abreojos advised us to take the trailer back just before he died. We didn't out of respect for the family and we have given them nearly 5 years to pay the balance. Do the math, it is less than $50 a month, no interest.
I was invited to the Coop meeting by the way and like I said the whole transaction is recorded in the deligation as far as the trailer. I have proof, where is yours Bobby? And yes 911 left me stuck in abreojos until things got back to normal and I made the best of a bad situation working and I gave as much as I recieved, maybe more. It was a very difficult time for many Americans living and working in Baja at the time. I am married to a Mexican and have the right to work in Mexico. You are probably close to being right on the balance and any trailer left un maintained for 5 years is going to be run down. Look on the Internet for Airstrams. Thay are now worth twice what I sold that one for.
I don't care if you have been coming here 300 years, your the back stabber exaderating the facts like this. You must have a real boring life to be following mine and the only people who don't like me there are the one's who steal arrow and spearhead to sell in the states because I blew the whistle on them. Enen Marco Jr. is out to bust those who do and I helped him with information. So get real and quit trying to play the good people on this board for fools. The very fact that this redicalous name calling continues isn't going to convince anyone Abreojos is the great place you clam it to be. 2 new newbies with only 1 post on this thread and I'm the raton. I'm not hiding or afraid of the truth. So grow up...

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rts551 - 2-22-2007 at 06:31 AM

Martin and "Bobby" are two of the best people I know, Joe. Let this one die. You're residence in in Cabo.. stick to that area.

abreojos - 2-22-2007 at 07:42 AM

Perfect, so now everyone can understand why they are charging $50 a night at Campo Rene. Gringos telling me and my Mexican wife to not go to Abreojos because someone doesn't want to pay a debt. Listen, I have enough proof here for my lawyer to make this a very expensive deal if that is what you want. Believe me if you don't respect me, I don't care if you like me and I'll go where I damn well please. Try to interfer and your days in Mexico are over. I have enough proof right here to do just that.

Cypress - 2-22-2007 at 07:48 AM

Jeez:no:Think maybe u2u's would be better than hanging all this dirty laundry out.:?:

abreojos - 2-22-2007 at 08:00 AM

$2,500 will shut me up!

Skipjack Joe - 2-22-2007 at 03:04 PM

I guess you won, abreojos!!

You got in the last post. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Capt. George - 2-22-2007 at 06:34 PM

I hope so! Ojos is not deserving of all this chit.

abreojos - 2-22-2007 at 07:36 PM

Your right George. We have many good friends there and if Marco was still around this would have never happened, he and I would talk and work it out. What bothers me is what is going on now and somebody not stepping up to the plate and making his word good.
I bet you won't be asking me who done it again!:!:

Capt. George - 2-22-2007 at 08:03 PM

I loved Marcos

abreojos - 2-23-2007 at 06:45 AM

Martin old buddy you have a u2u.

MARTYABJS - 2-23-2007 at 08:41 AM

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I loved Marcos


vikingo oh oh oh oh ..vikingo.. we miss you.:(:(:barf:

MARTYABJS - 2-23-2007 at 08:45 AM

joe dont tell more sh.. you said ...old buddy.
just come and take the trailer back ..

abreojos - 2-23-2007 at 08:52 AM

Rigo Zuniga will be coming to get it.

rts551 - 2-23-2007 at 10:11 AM

See you on thursday Martin. Steve is coming too.

Rafael

MARTYABJS - 2-23-2007 at 10:45 AM

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See you on thursday Martin. Steve is coming

good.. steve ? I cant believe it. gosh ! it will be great

take care rafiel

abreojos - 2-23-2007 at 11:18 AM

Martin, why don't you just pay me the balance with the rent money and keep the trailer? If I sell it, I will have to deduct the damage that was done to it yanking it off my property and years of neglect on the maintience from what Marco paid. If you keep it and pay me the rent, the money you get after paying me off will recover what Marco invested. I prefer this solution and I think it is fair to everyone. Someone sould have offered that when it was rented out and someone should have done this a long time ago. I need you to confirm this by e-mail as well as posted here so I know this is really you and not a trick someone is trying to perputrate. You have my address.

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Roberto - 2-23-2007 at 05:51 PM

Abreojos, I must admit you are one hell of a salesman :lol:

Dale Carnegie has nothing on you!

Capt. George - 2-23-2007 at 08:59 PM

martin, oh, oh, oh Martin

I miss you also amigo..Deborah has arrived safely in town. I'm sure you will see her soon....send love from Vikingo.

talked to Diego yesterday, a good man! as you are my friend.

el Vikingo de ??????????

Paulina - 2-23-2007 at 11:32 PM

Glen,
The offer still stands. We'll pit.

P.<*)))><

rts551 - 2-24-2007 at 04:41 AM

steve left today. I have to wait iuntil wed. hey race the toy then

MARTYABJS - 2-24-2007 at 11:36 AM

glenn I ready to support you to adventure in race cars
...i have some stickers..

MARTYABJS - 2-24-2007 at 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by whistler
Martin,I will save a place on the truck for your talco manilla.I got a pretty good group of guys helping with the truck.Not sure of a name for the team.Martin,what do you think about "El Caballo Blanco".It's a song about a horse that walks from Guadalajara to Ensenada.
Paulina,not sure about pit strategy yet but appreciate your offer.Maybe I will see you at Fred Hall.I will be working the 22nd street landing booth or Stanton Marine.

MARTYABJS - 2-24-2007 at 01:15 PM

what about "don cuco" ?

there is a history about this- old man made a trip on a donkey"
from tj to cabo .. let me know Im excited to meet your toy

cruzy,chema, fausto and every body in town are too...

MARTYABJS - 2-24-2007 at 01:20 PM

vikingo I have not seen her yet i thing she is on the way

I will let you know.. buddy.. take care

Capt. George - 2-24-2007 at 02:41 PM

gracias

salud tu familia...especially Mama!

oh my good boys chuy and martin, here is cafe for my babies

loco y loco martin y vikingo:spingrin:

joel - 2-24-2007 at 03:25 PM

Martin,

Thanks for all your help with my land.

Hope to see you down there soon.

Joel