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Who has the best Lobster in Ensenada

nobaddays - 2-26-2007 at 06:46 AM

Any help available? How about margaritas ?? I will be down there next month. Thanks NBD

bajaguy - 2-26-2007 at 07:26 AM

Don't know specifically about Lobster, but if you want an all around good meal, try Sano's, on the highway before entering the main town area. Great meal, excellent service.

CasaMar also has a reputation for good seafood.

Maybe Dennis, BajaBound, Lizard Lips or Jose A will chime in with their favorites.

Bob H - 2-26-2007 at 08:19 AM

Casa Mar would get my vote for a higher end dinner. I have NEVER had a questionable meal there. And, we've been eating there for over 20 years. Fantastic service too. Free parking right next door.
Bob H

DENNIS - 2-26-2007 at 08:23 AM

If you judge by the price, it has to be Costco. Saw one, nice size but not a lunker, on ice for 25 dollars.
What happens to all the perishibles that don't sell at Costco?

Minnow - 2-26-2007 at 08:33 AM

Why not go out to El Rincon and buy your bugs straight from the fishermen. Javier gets back about 10:30 most days. Drive out to the yellow shack and wait till the guys in yellow overalls show up. 12 dollars a kilo, and they are still crawling. They usually are on the smaller size, but you get about 30 for 60 bucks. Bring your own butter. It is somewhat hard to find butter in baja. :fire:

Bob H - 2-26-2007 at 09:00 AM

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Originally posted by Minnow
Why not go out to El Rincon and buy your bugs straight from the fishermen. Javier gets back about 10:30 most days. Drive out to the yellow shack and wait till the guys in yellow overalls show up.

How do you get there?

Minnow - 2-26-2007 at 09:07 AM

Drive out the La Bufadora highway until just past La Joya. There is a faded sign there that says El Rincon, take a right, when you get to the water turn left the yellow shack is just down on the end, only house there. Tell them Tom sent you and you want Langosta.

For those that knew him, the Yellow shack is directly down the cliff from Fred Hoctors old house.

[Edited on 26-2-2007 by Minnow]

larry - 2-26-2007 at 09:31 AM

I am a big fan of Mariscos Bahia de Ensenada, one door off the main tourist strip (Lopez Mateos). I think the street name is Riveroll, but it might be the next street down from Riveroll.

I have never ordered lobster, but they specialize in seafood, as the name implies, and I have had five or six excellent meals there. It is not expensive, not fancy, but the food and service are really very good. They have lobster, octopus, shrimp, clams, calamari, filetes, and whole fish prepared various ways.

Wait!!!

Dave - 2-26-2007 at 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by Minnow
12 dollars a kilo, and they are still crawling. They usually are on the smaller size, but you get about 30 for 60 bucks.

I just did the math. If you pay $60 at $12 per kilo then the 30 bugs weigh just over 1/3 lb each.

You're buying babies. :mad:

bancoduo - 2-26-2007 at 09:52 AM

Mexican conservation. COOP guys selling shorts. :mad:

Minnow - 2-26-2007 at 10:07 AM

My original post was incorrect. DAVE. it was 4 kilos for 50 bucks, and we only got" ABOUT" 30. Probably more like 25. I don't think a 1/3 of a pound lobster would amount to much. :lol:

Probably wouldn't even stay in the trap, as they have limits on how small the holes can be on the cages. Another Baja knowitall rears his ugly head. :lol:

I am really going to have to remember to be less informative. :lol:

[Edited on 26-2-2007 by Minnow]

tripledigitken - 2-26-2007 at 10:17 AM

4 Kilo's or 8.8 lbs at 25 ea = .35# ea :?:

I think you bought crawdads. :lol:

Legal lobsters usually don't go below 1#- 1.25# ea

I'll pass

Sallysouth - 2-26-2007 at 10:49 AM

My vote for good lobster is El Rey Sol on the tourist strret, south end of town.They serve em cooked just right, not overcooked and drawn real butter! :tumble:

Bob H - 2-26-2007 at 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by tripledigitken
4 Kilo's or 8.8 lbs at 25 ea = .35# ea :?:

I think you bought crawdads. :lol:

Legal lobsters usually don't go below 1#- 1.25# ea

I'll pass

Maybe these are slippler lobsters...
http://www.scuba-equipment-usa.com/marine/JAN04/Slipper_Lobster(Scllarides_squammosus).html

bob H

Minnow - 2-26-2007 at 12:14 PM

Don't worry Bob. Dave and Ken's dentures don't allow them to eat anything too firm. They are of the spiny variety and as big as anything I have had at puerto nuevo. Not that that means anything, as New Port is a total pit and there is nothing decent to eat around there. It is just a place for day trippers to spend their money on month old lobster, and dried out deli meat. Most posters here should stick to the paved roads. God forbid they have any interaction with Mexicans.

Dave - 2-26-2007 at 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by Minnow
Most posters here should stick to the paved roads. God forbid they have any interaction with Mexicans.

You mean like illegally purchasing illegally harvested lobster?

That kind of interaction?

It sets a proper example. Keep up the good work.

DENNIS - 2-26-2007 at 02:41 PM

Minnow-----

Didn't Hoctor live at Campo Arnaiz, about a mile closer to the Buf?

Paulina - 2-26-2007 at 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Minnow-----

Didn't Hoctor live at Campo Arnaiz, about a mile closer to the Buf?

You're right Dennis, he lived at Campo Arnaiz, the very end house with the boganvilla over the driveway. You can't see his house from the road. He had the best view of the bay. I think Tom was thinking of the red brick house out on the bluff instead. A lot of people used to think that was Fred's house.

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[Edited on 26-2-2007 by Paulina]

DENNIS - 2-26-2007 at 03:42 PM

Paulina ----

Thanks for the verification. I know where he lived but thought Tom may have some insight to his secret life.

Do you remember when the brick house was a restaurant? So long ago that this could be a trivia question.

Paulina/Dennis

Baja Bernie - 2-26-2007 at 04:10 PM

Did you guys know that Hoctor's wife still has the house on the bluff...............spends six months there and the rest of the year up in the hills in New Mexico............What a view and a fishing boat tied up at the bottom of the path.

I always wondered how he got that nasty scar on his head.
Perhaps a trip too many with Phil Harris to Hussongs.

Wha a guy.

bancoduo - 2-26-2007 at 04:18 PM

Phil Harris, Hussongs=good ol days :tumble:

DENNIS - 2-26-2007 at 04:20 PM

Bernie ----

Another Hoctor and Harris hangout was Alfredos, just down the same side of the street, toward the water. Great bartender named Javier is still around, I hope, last seen working at the cruise ship terminal.
I hope all these facts and figures are correct. Who knows for sure. I hung out at those places too.

I didn't know Fred. Too bad.

bancoduo - 2-26-2007 at 04:23 PM

Is it true Enrique Goldbaum Padilla got hit and killed buy a drunk Gringo in a Corvette in front of Hussongs :no:

DENNIS - 2-26-2007 at 04:32 PM

Never heard that but, it's not hard to believe given the history of the small area. He would be kin to the miner Goldbaum who was instrumental in the development of Ensenada and has a museum named for him up-behind Hussongs?

Minnow - 2-26-2007 at 04:36 PM

Glad this thread turned from me and Deli boy bashing each other. For the record dave, Most of the lobsters caught there are purchased by productos oceanos, they have a warehouse right there in El Rincon. They are then shipped all over the world from there.

We looked into renting the red brick place a few years ago and I was told that it was Freds place. I never met the guy so I don't know.

Bernie, please clarify your post.

DENNIS - 2-26-2007 at 04:40 PM

The brick house recently sold, including land. $220,000, I heard from a reliable source.

Minnow - 2-26-2007 at 04:47 PM

Dennis, where is your place in relation to that one? Across the street and around the corner to the left?

Paulina - 2-26-2007 at 04:51 PM

Bernie,

I didn't know that Silvia was still staying there. I should drop in and say hello if our timing is right. She might like to know that Fred's dog Zorro is still as naughty as ever.

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tripledigitken - 2-26-2007 at 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by Minnow
Don't worry Bob. Dave and Ken's dentures don't allow them to eat anything too firm. They are of the spiny variety and as big as anything I have had at puerto nuevo. Not that that means anything, as New Port is a total pit and there is nothing decent to eat around there. It is just a place for day trippers to spend their money on month old lobster, and dried out deli meat. Most posters here should stick to the paved roads. God forbid they have any interaction with Mexicans.

Hey Minnow, I pull the dentures out to eat lobsters. Those small ones you like I would swallow like an oyster shooter.

:lol:

DENNIS - 2-26-2007 at 05:11 PM

Minnow ----

Im at Lomas Del Mar, just above Campo Arnaiz where the Hoctor estate is located. One and a half miles from La Joya toward the Buf.

Minnow - 2-26-2007 at 05:24 PM

We have seen each other then. I suppose you know Angel, Melissa, and Phil. Great views from there. That wasn't you we saw at aguas Caliente last thursday was it?

DENNIS - 2-26-2007 at 06:11 PM

No, that wasn't me.
I live just a few doors up from Angel and Melissa.

Bob H - 2-26-2007 at 06:19 PM

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Bob H

Paulina

Baja Bernie - 2-26-2007 at 07:51 PM

Someone spoke of dentures and it reminded me of the last time I saw Fred.................he was b-tching about his dog eating his partial..............just went really nuts.
Sylvia is normally there around the 4th of July.............if you remember that was when they normally had their fish fry for all of their friends.

Guess she likes the snow in New Mexico and the sun in Baja.

Paulina - 2-26-2007 at 09:29 PM

That would have probably been Zorro. I remember visiting with Fred on his patio and laughing our butts off picturing Zorro (who was still a small puppy at the time) with a big wide denture-dog grin...Zorro ate/chewed anything he could get his mouth around. He had a rubber aligator that he drug along to the memorial at the La Jolla launch ramp, not sure why that aligator lasted as long as it did.

I never made it to one of his 4th of July fish fries. I was always in Bahia and arrived too late, but there was always left over cake on the round table.

Thanks for sharing Fred memories.

P<*)))>< this fish is a result of e-mail exchanges with Fred. We worked on the different ways to make them and this was the favorite result.

Sallysouth - 2-28-2007 at 09:03 PM

ok guys and gals, talk about robbing a thread! Paulina, you must have an opinion or two on "who has the best lobster....",and probably you too Bernie! Common, the newbie asked a Q, lets try to give some options.JMHO! :rolleyes:

bajamigo - 2-28-2007 at 09:32 PM

Somebody start a Fred Hoctor thread. He sounds like an interesting character. Wish I'd met him, but it seems as if he's passed.

Minnow - 2-28-2007 at 09:37 PM

He was the Baja Editor for Western Outdoor News. Lots has been written about him, and by him. He died a couple of years ago.

Hook - 2-28-2007 at 09:45 PM

I've actually had pretty decent sized lobsters at The Palm(s)(sic) but it wasnt cheap.

And it isnt in Ensenada.

But it is a little closer to the original question than most of this. :biggrin:

Paulina - 2-28-2007 at 10:13 PM

Sorry for morphing the thread.

Sally: I was thinking along the same lines as Tom, but wanted to keep my mouth shut. The next time I take my shopping bag to the old, ulgy camper at the end of the road I don't want to run into a line of Nomads who beat me to the legal sized bugs. Some things are best left to locals.

Bajamigo: Yes, Fred was a character. He used to call me the Sage of the Bay of LA. He passed away in 2001.

Check this link out:

http://www.mexfish.com/baja/baja/af010727/af010727.htm

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Sallysouth - 3-1-2007 at 11:26 AM

Yeah Hook, The Palm has good food, including lobster and great lobster bisque! It is just off the toll road heading south from TJ, get off at Canatmar. Makes a good lunch stop between TJ and Ensenada.

DENNIS - 3-1-2007 at 02:23 PM

Paulina ---

Thanks for the Hoctor bio. Now, I'm really sorry I didn't know him.
Maybe in another life..........

Did you guys know Bobby Coleman? He lived by Fred for years. He just came by to say hello and he mentioned the word,"lobster", so the thread is still on track.

bajamigo - 3-1-2007 at 10:50 PM

Paulina, check your U2U.

Paulina - 3-2-2007 at 09:38 AM

Got it, back at you times two!

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Sallysouth - 3-2-2007 at 03:00 PM

He he, pretty tricky DENNIS! It works ya sly devil....

Paulina - 3-2-2007 at 03:16 PM

Dennis,

I don't want to be shellfish and hog the thread, but frankly scallop I don't give a clam. But to answer your post, it's quite possible that I've met Bobby. I've met a few of Fred's neighbors over the years, but I'm horrible with names. There was one character in particular that lived right behind him, of couse his name eludes me, but could be the same guy???

Speaking of lobsters, please say hello to that crustacean neighbor of yours for us if he's around and not off the deep end in looooove.

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