BajaNomad - Development near Puerto Lopez Mateos

Development near Puerto Lopez Mateos

tigerdog - 3-18-2007 at 05:03 AM

The Gringo Gazette is reporting that:

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Canada-based JB REI International will invest $500 million in Matancitas, a beachside community near San Carlos and Ciudad Insurgentes in the northern part of the state. JB investors Carolyn Kramer and Bill Grant met with Gov. Narciso Agundez this month to discuss their hotel and golf project near Puerto Lopez Mateos. The project is expected to break ground in four to six weeks. The investors also will put some money into agriculture to benefit the local ejido land owners. Ejido is a form of communal land, and the ejidatarios, or landowners, are pitching in some of their land in partnership with the developers. JB REI International also plans to build a desalinization plant so that fresh organic produce can be grown locally.

I couldn't find anything about JB REI International on Google. Does anyone have more information about that development?

capt. mike - 3-18-2007 at 06:41 AM

that's where our clinic is, i'll email the local coordinator for the flyin sams and she what she has to say, she knows all the goings on for lopez, its a small town but with a great airstrip and climate. i hope this deal is real!!

tigerdog - 3-18-2007 at 11:22 AM

The part about the ejido partnering up with the developers and the use of a desalinization plant for growing organic veggies sounds promising. But where will the brine the desal plant produces be stored/shunted? Could that be a problem for the ecology of the area?

jerry - 3-18-2007 at 11:50 AM

in my opinion shear volume of evaporation that goes on every day would effect the salt content in the oceans a million times more then a desal plant ever could
just the differences from one year to the next drout to flash floods would have a lot more effect

most water is used and then goes to ground water or is evaporated anyway its a circle

whats happening in GN whos replacing the salt thats being taken out of the sea there??perhaps a desal plant might really be needed to creat a balance??
i think not. No more then a desal plant will change the sea in another area

Not just desal....

Don Alley - 3-18-2007 at 01:41 PM

Here's another problem to chew on...

Sewage from an increasing non-Catholic population. Such sewage contains the residue of birth control pills. That's why there aren't as many fish as there used to be. And that's where the whales breed!

Canadian development in Lopez Mateos...does this mean we'll get whale hockey?

:lol:

tigerdog - 3-18-2007 at 03:34 PM

I ask about the desal issue because I was reading the thread on the Loreto Water Meeting at http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=23296

Desalinization was discussed there; for instance Jerry said: "Desal returns 50% usable water, and 50% brine (approx). The water is treated with chemicals before filtration; those chemicals are left in the brine."

That brine, chemicals and all, has to go somewhere, and I'm just wondering if it might have an adverse affect-- depending on where they put it.

tigerdog - 3-18-2007 at 03:41 PM

At the risk of sounding anal retentive :rolleyes:

there's always been something that bothered me about the word "desalinization". Maybe because it's hard to roll that word out of my mouth, lol. So I just looked it up (I have way too much time on my hands) and actually the word is supposed to be "desalination". No "iz" in it. Much easier to say. I feel better now.

JESSE - 3-18-2007 at 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by tigerdog
The Gringo Gazette is reporting that:

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I couldn't find anything about JB REI International on Google. Does anyone have more information about that development?

My sister told me theres an american woman talking to all the ejidos saying her investors are going to pump billions into that area. And appartently, seduced many of them to grant her a lease of those lands for the amazing amount of 20,000 dollars. Shes told them about the meeting with the governor, but when the govermonr was asked about the lady, he said and i quote "i get my picture taken with dozens of people every day, and many come to me saying they are going to invest here, but i cannot say if shes legit or not".

I already told my sister to tell the land owners to watch out, and that i would be happy to talk to this lady in behalf of them. Anybody that claims to invest billions, and can only come up with 20,000 dollars to land huge land rights, deserves a lot of attention.

capt. mike - 3-19-2007 at 07:53 AM

well i just got the straight poop from a respected local.
do not look for this to happen at all. another pipe dream where only the promoter gets the money................ :lol:

darn it though............would be a nice place to esconse in semi permanently.

nastalgia - 6-13-2007 at 12:35 PM

My sister told me theres an american woman talking to all the ejidos saying her investors are going to pump billions into that area. And appartently, seduced many of them to grant her a lease of those lands for the amazing amount of 20,000 dollars. Shes told them about the meeting with the governor, but when the govermonr was asked about the lady, he said and i quote "i get my picture taken with dozens of people every day, and many come to me saying they are going to invest here, but i cannot say if shes legit or not".

I already told my sister to tell the land owners to watch out, and that i would be happy to talk to this lady in behalf of them. Anybody that claims to invest billions, and can only come up with 20,000 dollars to land huge land rights, deserves a lot of attention.

The "American Woman" is probably the same one who tried to steal a Mexican ladies property when the muchacha was away. She with her husband moved into the house without permission and told everybody in Lopez Mateos they had bought the house from the owner. Upon the muchacha's return and finding these gringos in her house she asked them to vacate her property. They refused and it took the muchacha placing criminal and civil charges "still in process" to get them out of her house. These same gringos are being prosecuted for illegal construction on the nature preserve located on magdalena island. Recent radio news from Constitucion advise the authorities are looking for these gringos for failure to appear to summons presented to them for their illegal actions on the island. Perhaps this was another reason the deal fell through with the so called five star resort plans.

Cap - 6-13-2007 at 05:01 PM

Development and the destruction of storms, the two most over stated and rarely factual things in Mexico. :yes:

wilderone - 6-14-2007 at 10:22 AM

Found this - looks like the "American woman" Carolyn Kramer is networking to find $5 million for this project.

http://www.gobignetwork.com/profiles/Carolyn-Kramer.aspx

comitan - 6-14-2007 at 10:45 AM

Here is a very interesting link from her site.

http://www.gobignetwork.com/wil/

nastalgia - 6-16-2007 at 12:05 PM

Not the name of the "American Woman" I refered to. Don't wish to slander anybody.
The "American Woman" I referred to couldn't come up with enough money to pay her house cleaning lady for several weeks. Or perhaps this is just how California business folks prefer to treat their obligations when in Mexico. Anybody who would try to steal a Mexican's house and then try not to pay the hired help should probably go back to where they came from.

woody with a view - 6-16-2007 at 01:04 PM

"Anybody who would try to steal a Mexican's house and then try not to pay the hired help should probably go back to where they came from."

BULLSHEET!!! we don't want 'em back. just take em out over the first hill, to the "dump" and .............well, you know what to do!!!!!

[Edited on 6-16-2007 by woody in ob]

Paula - 6-16-2007 at 01:26 PM

Or lock 'em up and throw away the key!!