BajaNomad - Mexico Beds True or False??

Mexico Beds True or False??

CortezBlue - 3-23-2007 at 06:31 PM

Ok, I was at Costco Mexicali looking for a king bed and was so happy to find that they had them. I met a young man who spoke wonderful english and he told me something that I want to verify. He told me that a Mexican King bed is actually like a US Queen bed and a Queen bed is the same as a US double bed. Is this true????

Bob and Susan - 3-23-2007 at 07:07 PM

where is the "bedman" when you NEED HIM!!!!

let me tell you...he knows ALL about beds :lol:

Mango - 3-23-2007 at 07:12 PM

My mexican king sized bed, that I bought at WalMart in Mexicali) is 1.9 meters (6.23 feet) by 2.0 meters (6.56 feet) The dimensions are printed on the label stuck to the mattress. I have no idea what an american king sized bed is..

I hope this helps you out.

vgabndo - 3-23-2007 at 07:23 PM

King sized...76" wide, 80" long I believe you will find correct.

Bob and Susan - 3-23-2007 at 07:39 PM

Twin Single 39" 75"
Twin X-Long Extra Long Single 39" 80"

Double Full 54" 75"

Queen Queen 60" 80"

TWO KING BEDS!!!
Standard or Eastern King King 76"-78"
(widest) 80"
California King Western King 72" 84" (longest)

vandenberg - 3-23-2007 at 07:52 PM

We bought a king size bed in La Paz. It's an excellent bed but our regular king size sheets didn't fit, so we bought California king size sheets and they don't fit either. It's a great bed with a queer size.

Bob and Susan - 3-23-2007 at 07:55 PM

'It's a great bed with a queer size"

is it for the other team???? :lol:

Bedman - 3-23-2007 at 07:57 PM

Bob is correct,

Wow Bob !! , I'm really impressed you got all the sizes correct. Mexico uses the same spring units/dimensions that we use here in the states.

Most of the mattresses that my customers dispose of do get recycled in Mexico. They are picked up in our lot by 3 different individuals that have mattress rebuilding facilities in Mexico.

Normally when a mattress is old and tired, the only thing that is Really worn out is the upholstery. Spring units very seldom wear out and are recovered to look like new. (At the very least, the good guys change ALL the upholstery.

The Not so good guys......well, they just fill in the body impression and then put a new outer cover on. Ewwww.... you should see what 20 years of accumulated use does.

Bedman

jerry - 3-23-2007 at 08:08 PM

WHEN BRINGINGNEW PEOPLE TO BAJA
I allway stop at the cheapest hotel i can find and tell them its the best you know the ones with no hot water a candel for light and a box spring for a mattress i think the best hotels get the mattress the others well do as they can i allways have a good time
anyway depending how the protests are weather i play it out or go to a nicer place that night i allway take then to a top of the line the second night :tumble:

shari - 3-24-2007 at 08:20 AM

What we do in Asuncion with old matresses is pull em behind the trucks when we go to San Roque to "grade" the road...works really well! When I first started going to San Roque I wondered why there were always bits and pieces of old matresses scattered all over the road??? Now I know! True, ya gotta measure when you buy beds from the bedman who comes here in his red truck. I bought a queen from him that was more like a twin...oops

[Edited on 3-24-2007 by shari]

Diver - 3-24-2007 at 08:58 AM

What's all the ta-do ??

When I'm sleeping in Baja, I always feel like a king !! :biggrin:

bajamigo - 3-24-2007 at 08:58 PM

So what's a "matrimonio?"

elgatoloco - 3-24-2007 at 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bajamigo
So what's a "matrimonio?"

Hammock built for two. :yes:

Bedman - 3-25-2007 at 01:20 AM

Matrimonio or Matramonial ?<sp> is a Queen size.

Bedman

oxxo - 3-25-2007 at 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bedman
Matrimonio or Matramonial ?<sp> is a Queen size

I was in the retail mattress business for 10 years. I agree with Bedman that Bob got his sizes right. But those sizes are for mattresses sold in the US. The sizes of mattresses sold in Mexico are inconsistent and can vary depending on vendor. For example, the King size set sold at Costco in Mexico, although made by Sealy (maybe) is approximately an Eastern King. I believe the "matrimonio" size sold at Costco is what we would call a double or full size. A queen size bed at Costco is approximately the same size as a queen bed in the US.

If you are bringing sheets from the US to fit your bed purchased in Mexico, all the sheet sizes will work for the corresponding Mexican bed, although the fitted sheets may be a little baggy in places, except for King size sheets. You will need to purchase "Eastern King" sheets. These can be difficult to find in California and are often a special order item.

Sweet dreams!

Bob and Susan - 3-25-2007 at 01:10 PM

we've looked at beds for awhile because we need to still get
2 twins
6 queens and
an eastern king

that's alot of beds

we shop online for stuff so eastern king sheets are easy to get
thank god...
(i mean that president hopeful that lost to bush i already forgot his name...sorry)
for the internet

Bedman - 3-25-2007 at 04:18 PM

Bob,

Retirement is coming fast. After 24 years in the business and 9 Grand store openings (now down sized to just this one) I'm ready to call it a day. My wife retired 8 months ago and she's really rubbing it in. I anticipate retirement to arrive within the next 4 months!!

Bedman

bajamigo - 3-25-2007 at 06:07 PM

Bedman, you earned it. Retire! If you're concerned there will be nothing to do, think again. I retired, moved to BCN to relax, and I've never been busier. I'm half-seriously thinking about moving back to Sacramento to "retire."

jerry - 3-25-2007 at 06:39 PM

lifes a beach :biggrin:

Bob and Susan - 3-25-2007 at 07:30 PM

hey bedman

i just imported my pool heater, pump, filter. water tank, and BBQ this week
it took 3 hours at the border...yuk
PLUS 24% TAX!!!

walmart in ensenada had a nice double pillow top king for $440 USA
and queens for $375 USA
the idea of not importing seems sooooo nice

what do you think?
should i
or
shouldn't i ????

Hi Bob....

Bedman - 3-25-2007 at 11:46 PM

Bob,

It's tough for me to know what you'd be buying . Did they happen to give any details on the construction of the mattresses?

When you cost out a mattress set it helps to know a few details. here are a few things that make it easier.

Spring count
ie: 312, 364, 428, 564, 664, 770, 888, 960? All of these counts are for FULL size.

What are the upholstery layers in the mattress?
ie:
Cotton .... Most matts have some, too much and you'll have body impressions quickly.
Enduralator.... Seperates the springs from the softer, less durable paddings.
Latex.... Very expensive, but adds comfort and durability.
Visco.... Memory foam, a little goes a long way, too much and the bed will be hot. All foams should weigh 5# or more per cubic foot.

Polyurethane.... standard foam, best if it is rated 5# plus.
Qualofill.... Just under the outside cover and promotes good air circulation.

What is the construction of the Box Spring?
ie:
Torsion bar construction?.... Angular spring steel on a hardwood frame.
Helical spring construction?..... Circular spring construction on a hardwood frame.
Metal center rib?.... Adds strength to a standard box spring frame.
Semi Flex construction?..... Adds strength to the top of a Torsion bar or Helical box spring.
Wood foundation?..... Many variations but essentially just a wooden box with upholstery to match the mattress.

A lot of this information won't be on the law label, some of it will. Ask the saleman for this info. I'm not even sure if they have to put on a law label describing the materials used to construct. You know "THAT" label the Mattress police will arrest you if you remove!

I do belive that you can get a better price in Mexico due to labor costs. And when you factor in the Import tax it just sweetens the deal. All things being equal, you should get a lower price on the same construction. Very little is regulated in Mexico, Everything is here.

Also the State of Cal has recently increased the Safety/Burn times in all mattresses sold in the state to 30 minutes. To achieve this, the better factories have implemented Kevlar in the construction. (Cheaper factories use Chemicals, not good) Kevlar is VERY expensive, but doesn't burn worth a darn. According to Feds. All states will be required to match Calif's. 30 minute burn rate in the next year or two. (Interesting note here, No Burn requirements on any of the mattress accesories, sheets, matt pads, blankets, comforters, pillows, shams, etc. I don't know ANY one who sleeps on a bed without some or all of those things. What are they thinking?)

I hope this info helps a little.

Bedman

Bob and Susan - 3-26-2007 at 05:58 AM

da_n...there's ALWAYS something to screw up a "GOOD DEAL"

i guess there isn't really a "free lunch"

Safety/Burn times...didn't EVEN think of that...let's see Mexico....NOT

NOW...i ONLY have 4 months to by and import!!!

Sometimes knowledge is a "ROYAL PAIN"

oxxo - 3-26-2007 at 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bedman
After 24 years in the business and 9 Grand store openings (now down sized to just this one) I'm ready to call it a day.
Bedman

The second happiest day of my life was when I opened my first furniture store...............the happiest day of my life was when I closed my last one!

oxxo - 3-26-2007 at 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by elgatoloco

Quote:

Originally posted by bajamigo
So what's a "matrimonio?"

Hammock built for two. :yes:

No, that's called a bra.

SDRonni - 3-26-2007 at 08:11 AM

Bedman: For our Rosarito condo to be completed in October (fingers crossed), we have purchased two queen-sized Sleep Innovations Novaform Elite 12" Memory Foam mattresses at Costco (they were having a GREAT deal!). DH says we can use these w/o a foundation. We are thinking probably a platform bed, and having it built in Baja if it would be less expensive than purchasing here and importing to Baja. The mattresses are in boxes w/wheels and we are thinking we can even take them down in the back seat of our car (at different times, of course). Do you think these mattresses will be hot? We currently sleep on a latex foam Craftmatic-type bed. Do you have any suggestions or ideas that might help us? :?:

bajamigo - 3-26-2007 at 09:44 AM

Mr. Bedman, here's another retirement idea: open a mattress-consulting web site, charge a modest fee for your excellent advice, grow rich slowly.

Bedman - 3-27-2007 at 01:06 AM

Hi Bob,

I'm not sure if you saw this line in my last post or not......

" I do believe that you can get a better price in Mexico due to labor costs. And when you factor in the Import tax it just sweetens the deal. All things being equal, you should get a lower price on the same construction. Very little is regulated in Mexico, Everything is here."

And I really don't think you need to worry about "Burning up in mattress" More people die from lightning strike than mattress fires.

Hi SDRonni,

Novafoam Elite is made with Viscoelastic foam. Visco foam is a sealed cell foam and does have high heat retention and perspiration build up. I am told that the human body perspires 2 gallons of water/perspiration every week of sleeping time. The best way to avoid that heat and perspiration build up is to make sure the mfr. use a good insulator between you and the foam. The best insulator for this is Hollowfill or Quallofill. Quallofill is a hollow filament fiber with a cross hatch down the center. Hollowfill is the same stuff but, no cross hatch. Imagine a drinking straw with an X down the middle and all this in a diameter smaller/finer than a human hair. The hollow fiber has a better memory than solid fibers and returns to it's original shape more readily. Think Plastic drinking straw, bend it and then see how quick it comes back to it's original shape. Now try that same experiment with a solid piece of plastic the same dimensions as the drinking straw. The solid one will either break or stay bent. As you lie on a mattress thousands of hours a year and shift positions thousands of times, the solid stuff dies and the Hollow stuff survives longer, much much longer. Hollow/Quallowfill insulates well and lets air circulate more readily than cotton or any other fiber so far used in a mattress of any kind. Bottom line, if it doesn't have any padding between you and the foam, buy a mattress pad with Hollowfill or the newer better Quallofill fiber.

Mr Bajamigo,

Thanks for the advice. Please send all donations to....awww, Heck, just have a beer for me!

And just for the legal types, all of the above information is strictly my personal opinion and I don't know Jack, just ask my wife.

Bedman

Bob and Susan - 3-27-2007 at 06:23 AM

i NEVER thought i would be SO interested in BED information :lol:

even susan has this stuff on her computer now :saint:

thanks bedman

edit:
i "sweat"
the other team "perspires"

i bet i "sweat" more than 2 gallons in september :lol:

[Edited on 3-27-2007 by Bob and Susan]

SDRonni - 3-27-2007 at 10:22 AM

Thank you so much, Bedman! We will definitely buy the mattress cover you recommended. I run hot, hubby runs cold! Most of the year, I sleep with the ceiling fan on. Awoke one night last week to find hubby sleeping in his ski jacket!!! Ahhhhh, the wonders of growing older!!!

Thanks again!

CortezBlue - 3-28-2007 at 03:46 PM

Wow
Ask a simple question and get a Masters Degree.

Some great info.

Thanks

Bedman - 3-29-2007 at 12:32 AM

Hehehe....... I do get a little wordy, huh?!?!

Bedman

oladulce - 3-29-2007 at 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bedman
Hehehe....... I do get a little wordy, huh?!?!
Bedman

Not at all Bedman. This is useful stuff and I for one am taking notes because we'll be in the market for a Baja bed very soon also.

Thank you.

Pescador - 3-29-2007 at 06:12 AM

OK, we looked at mattresses in Baja and found the prices to be pretty good. We find that we are always looking for really firm mattresses as we get less backaches and wake up with less aches and pains. Every time I tr a pillowtop mattress, I find that it kills my back in weeks. So, I am curious as to how people like these Mexican mattresses after having used them for awhile.

RockhouseTom - 3-29-2007 at 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bedman

And just for the legal types, all of the above information is strictly my personal opinion and I don't know Jack, just ask my wife.

Bedman

Hey Bedman,

My wife as been After me to "Ask Bedman" About Temperpedic beds. I was going to wait till we meet up in Bahia, But it looks like Nomads are not going to let you retire!
How about a Ask Bedman Forum? :tumble:

Tom

oladulce - 3-29-2007 at 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bedman
Retirement is coming fast. After 24 years in the business and 9 Grand store openings (now down sized to just this one) I'm ready to call it a day. My wife retired 8 months ago and she's really rubbing it in. I anticipate retirement to arrive within the next 4 months!!
Bedman

Bedman, if you haven't retired yet where is your shop?

Has anyone had success mattress shopping in Cd. Constitución ?

Bedman

DianaT - 3-29-2007 at 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bedman
Hehehe....... I do get a little wordy, huh?!?!

Wow, not too wordy at all---printed what your wrote. Since we are considering buying a place in Baja and would like to shop there---this information is great.

Amazing the different information one can take from this board.

:yes:

Thanks

Bedman

bajamigo - 3-29-2007 at 05:29 PM

It stuns me to think that this is one of the most interesting threads I've ever followed on this BB.

Bedman - 3-29-2007 at 06:42 PM

Wow !! I'm surprised that so many are interested.

Pescador,

I can't give you any firsthand experience on the Mexican mattresses but, some pillow tops are just way too over padded. One of the important things I stress with my salesmen to be aware of is Customer Posture. We all have different body shapes and postures. I always look at them when they're walking around the showroom. If they have a little hunchback I remember that. If they're Straight as a board I note that too. When they test a mattress I try to stress the importance of not changing their posture Dramatically. I find it best to duplicate their standing posture as they lay flat on their backs. IF they sleep on their sides I also suggest they not buy a an overly firm or soft mattress. If a customer is a large person they more than likely will need a little more support than a lighter one. Pick something in the middle. The smaller the quilt pattern the firmer the top and probably the overall mattress.

Tom,

Temperpedic is a brand. They use, primarily, Visco elastic foam. Visco foam is also called Memory foam and every major and most smaller factories make a similar constructed bed. Visco MUST have a good insulating barrier between you and the foam. The reason? Visco is a sealed cell foam and will trap body perspiration between you and the Visco. Resulting in Hot summer sleeping and Clammy winter sleeping. Think about sleeping on a plastic sheet. One of the Best insulators in the bedding industry is called Quallofill or Hollowfill. You might have seen this product used in Sleeping bags or Jackets. There are dozens of different qualities of Visco. The primary means of measuring the quality of all foams is Density or How much does the product weigh? Good Visco is 5.5 pounds per cubic foot. Poor quality Visco is under 4 pounds and may go as low as 2.5 pounds. The other important measurement of all foams is ILD or Internal Load Deflection just a fancy bunch of words that indicate How firm the foam is. The higher the ILD the firmer the foam. The more dense the foam the longer it will last.

Hola Oladuce,

My last store is in the city of Placentia, Calif. Near Fullerton or Anaheim. PM me for more info if needed.

I'm sure some of you have purchased mattresses in Baja and have been very pleased. Feel free to chime in here!!

Bajamigo, kind of surprises me too!!

Bedman