Hi there - I'm driving down to Sta. Rosalia on Friday from north LA - I5 corridor area - does anyone know of a place where I can rent a pair of 'jet
skis' - wave runners, pwc, the sit on top style - with a trailer for a week that will let me take them to Mexico? Thanks!!jaymtb - 7-7-2007 at 08:16 PM
Bad Idea--You'll be about as popular as wet toilet paper. Bob and Susan - 7-8-2007 at 06:50 AM
they are all over here...
people bring them ALL the time
repair people in santa rosalia too if you have problems
bring them and ALOT of money for gasbajabound2005 - 7-8-2007 at 07:36 AM
not likely you'll find anyone that will rent them to you and allow you to haul them across the border. you may find someone here when you arrive that
will rent them to you but it will be expensive.bajajudy - 7-8-2007 at 07:36 AM
I dont think that you can rent them for a week with a trailer.Bob and Susan - 7-8-2007 at 07:55 AM
you can in the usaBob and Susan - 7-8-2007 at 07:55 AM
no rentals in santa rosaliaDENNIS - 7-8-2007 at 08:28 AM
Ahh yes ......Jet-Skis
Such pleasant little things. They fit so well into the tranquil setting of the ocean's edge, buzzing about like hummingbirds in a flower garden,
giving refreshed meaning to the blended symbiosis between man and nature which has left the Baja Penninsula pristine, as though it has just left
the hand of it's maker.
And, the melody of song which they blend in harmony with the gentle rhythm of small waves caressing the beach is cathartic. Soothing and
refreshing. It brings the beauty of life to a real and accessible place in the mind.
Yeah..... That's what jet-skis do. They do it about as well as a pack of unleashed, blood-trained Pit Bulls.
Why would anybody think these things could fit in anywhere that the beach loving people congregate? Do you ever see people who are looking for a
quiet place to relax, sitting in a chair fifty feet from a motocross in progress?
No. You don't.
Why? Because it's loud and it's dangerous and it smells like a greasy old gas station.
Jet Skis should be banned or, at least, traded in for sail boats. Nice, quiet sail boats.
Those who have a need to go fast and endanger the well-being of others should save it for the freeways.
[Edited on 7-8-2007 by DENNIS]
[Edited on 7-8-2007 by DENNIS]
Jet Ski Delinquency
MrBillM - 7-8-2007 at 08:56 AM
For the most part, Jet Skis and their progeny don't belong in other than isolated waters. When combined with other vessels and people enjoying the
water, they tend to become the equivalent of Outlaw Bikers. People using the machines seem to believe it is incumbent upon them to irritate everyone
else. I haven't witnessed a single instance in which the riders acted with courtesy and concern for others sharing the water, but I have frequently
witnessed the opposite.Bob and Susan - 7-8-2007 at 10:17 AM
bill you are soooooo right
vandenberg - 7-8-2007 at 12:20 PM
Prior to going on a big game safari hunt, they should make good target practice.bajabound2005 - 7-8-2007 at 01:27 PM
jet skis at the beach are as welcome as ATVs ON the beach...Russ - 7-8-2007 at 04:44 PM
Most ATVs around here respect the beach, desert, and residential areas. A few don't and are told in short order. Most of those bandit riders are from
the north and have no manners. Non any business in BCS. Oh, Dennis jet ski and a Big drum set belong it the same place?
[Edited on 7-8-2007 by Russ]DENNIS - 7-8-2007 at 05:58 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Russ
Oh, Dennis jet ski and a Big drum set belong it the same place?
Nope. No way. No jet skis on my front porches next to Divers house in Asunción. Just drums. Big, loud drums. Lots of'em. The ones that sound
best in the middle of the night. You ever heard those?
Russ.....Where do you live?
Have drums --- Will travelHalboo - 7-8-2007 at 06:02 PM
SEA LICERuss - 7-8-2007 at 06:55 PM
Dennis, No thanks. You can PLEASE leave those DRUMS! where they are.Crusoe - 7-8-2007 at 07:03 PM
Very Good Reply Dennis.....Right On!!! If people need this type of stimulation they need to go to Lake Havasu City, Arizona. There they can
co-mingle with oter types like themselves. There is nothing in this world as obnoxious and stupid and as disrepectful as jet ski energy. I agree with
Vandy, good target practice. ++C++bajabound2005 - 7-8-2007 at 07:49 PM
this would be a GREAT time of year for those folks to go to Lake Havasu---PLEASE GO THERE!bajajudy - 7-8-2007 at 08:22 PM
ANY WHERE BUT HERE...POR FAVORPaula - 7-8-2007 at 09:34 PM
pville
I'm with the rest of the gang here-- get a new hobby!!!!! Kayaking is good, slow down, relax, think about the world around you, and try to blend in.
It'll be nice.
Dennis
Nice posting here. You've hit your stride! Keep it coming, please.
Oh, and by the way, happy drumming!!bajamigo - 7-8-2007 at 09:40 PM
Well, it has to be said. Dennis used to manufacture M-80's in an empty camouflaged pila, but after a few market-testing mishaps, he hasn't been able
to find a drum big enough that he can hear. But he hasn't given up the quest. When he practices in San Quintin, you be able to hear him quite clearly
in Asuncion.Paula - 7-8-2007 at 09:46 PM
Well, 'migo
I'm way down here in Loreto.... easy for me to wish him wellbackninedan - 7-9-2007 at 12:38 PM
I lived on the Colorado River in Bullhead City and learned to hate jet skis with a passion. Seldom see them here in Loreto.....and please let it stay
that way. I would rather have root canal work done than listen to those things.Cypress - 7-9-2007 at 12:44 PM
Jet Skis allow some folks an excuse to go fast on the water and make noise.Bob and Susan - 7-9-2007 at 12:49 PM
too late..there's a zillion of them here already...
it will NEVER be like the river because it takes too long to get here...
the river is only a few hours from civilization
they ARE the motorcycles of the water and ....
sure ARE sure FUN!!!
maybe someday there will be the "seadoo baja 500"Sharksbaja - 7-9-2007 at 01:05 PM
Hey Bob I guess you will be seeing a few near you if the Estero Sta. Barbara project goes as planned. They will have plenty of those and ski-boats
planned as well! They pretty much go hand in hand doncha think?
The only reason the quads and ATVs haven't ruined the whole Mulege area is because the ancient people driving them only ply the well-used
tracks....... and...........very................ slowly.Bob and Susan - 7-9-2007 at 01:26 PM
i know...we have 2 and....
susan water skis..
what a unique thought...have FUN on the water
you don't think those fishing skiffs don't "tear up" the waterSharksbaja - 7-9-2007 at 03:08 PM
NO! NO FUN! Absolutely not!!! No boats of any kind!!! No off-road vehicles of any type!!! Just mine and yours..... Oh, no golfers either!!DENNIS - 7-9-2007 at 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Bob and Susan
maybe someday there will be the "seadoo baja 500"
Good idea, Bob.....
Start it at your place and have them do a straight line to the finish, preferably south.Bob and Susan - 7-9-2007 at 05:03 PM
hell YES lets plan it!!!!
dennis you could play the drums on a seadoo and no one would mindDENNIS - 7-9-2007 at 05:17 PM
Can't talk about my drums here anymore. Severe reprimand.Bob and Susan - 7-9-2007 at 06:52 PM
Somebody already did the jet ski down the Gulf thing. This year, too. Raised massive amounts of money for charity. Co-sponsored by several mega
developers. No surprises.
Scroll way down for article.Hook - 7-10-2007 at 05:10 PM
While jet skis and their cousins, the waverunners, have gotten quieter with the introduction of 4 strokes, the mentality of the riders seems the same.
I like the Lake Havasu idea.......converging routes at high speeds could lead to a necessary Darwinian reduction.
ATVs are completely different in my book. I see a number of responsible riders; I have been one, once or twice. I particularly like the utility style
with all the accoutrements available.
Would love to actually help the squarecircle find the lost route to the Gulf from Mission Santa Maria ( or wherever the hell it was) on
one...........just a slow, exploring, gas-conserving putt.
Outlaw Mentality
MrBillM - 7-10-2007 at 05:39 PM
I always draw the comparison between Wave Runners, etc and Dirt Bikes because, like Hook, I have seen every kind of rider on ATVs, from wild and crazy
to old and sedate. In contrast, EVERY Dirt Bike rider I've seen in camp and elsewhere rides too fast and makes too much noise.wilderone - 7-11-2007 at 08:28 AM
"find the lost route to the Gulf from Mission Santa Maria ( or wherever the hell it was) on one...........just a slow, exploring, gas-conserving putt"
The indians didn't have an ATV - just their own two feet. same as you. good for exploration. BTW, it's not lost. Just go up the hill, follow the
switchbacks and ducks down the hillside to the river, follow the stream for a while and you'll find the trail.David K - 7-11-2007 at 08:46 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by wilderone
"find the lost route to the Gulf from Mission Santa Maria ( or wherever the hell it was) on one...........just a slow, exploring, gas-conserving putt"
The indians didn't have an ATV - just their own two feet. same as you. good for exploration. BTW, it's not lost. Just go up the hill, follow the
switchbacks and ducks down the hillside to the river, follow the stream for a while and you'll find the trail.
Actually, the route that 'squarecircle' is working on is several miles south of Mision Santa Maria (La Turquesa Canyon)...
Here is a photo I took last May of the Camino Real between Mision Santa Maria and Gonzaga... and no, you can't ride a quad on it... feet or hoof only
(an expert Baja moto rider did get his Honda XR through, but with a lot of damage to his machine)!
Russ - 7-11-2007 at 08:53 AM
That "trail" should be a breeze on a SeaDoo.Hook - 7-11-2007 at 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by wilderone
"find the lost route to the Gulf from Mission Santa Maria ( or wherever the hell it was) on one...........just a slow, exploring, gas-conserving putt"
The indians didn't have an ATV - just their own two feet. same as you. good for exploration. BTW, it's not lost. Just go up the hill, follow the
switchbacks and ducks down the hillside to the river, follow the stream for a while and you'll find the trail.
OK, so how did the Indians keep and carry their beer cold in this manner?DENNIS - 7-11-2007 at 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Russ
That "trail" should be a breeze on a SeaDoo.
That must be short for Sea Doo Doo.Cypress - 7-11-2007 at 11:20 AM
Jet skis. wilderone - 7-12-2007 at 08:23 AM
"OK, so how did the Indians keep and carry their beer cold in this manner?"
Deer bladders wrapped in banana leaves, carried in baskets strapped to their backs.DENNIS - 7-12-2007 at 12:33 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by wilderone
"OK, so how did the Indians keep and carry their beer cold in this manner?"
Deer bladders wrapped in banana leaves, carried in baskets strapped to their backs.
And there you have it folks. The birth of Cerveza Corona. I always thought it tasted like something that came from a bladder.JZ - 7-12-2007 at 01:57 PM
There is a herd mentality on this board. As soon as a couple people start saying the same thing no one has the balls to defend their point of view in
fear of getting trappled by the herd. So you only here one side of the story here.
ATV's are the sport of middle aged white guys. Dirt bikes and wave runners are for the young. You guys are showing your age big time.
I don't own one, but I have been thinking about getting one. You see them zipping around the bay here in San Carlos. For the most part they mind
there own business and don/t bother people. By contrast, on a lake they can definetly be a royal pain in ass to boaters following them around like
knats. I don't see that down here.
[Edited on 7-12-2007 by JZ]Hook - 7-12-2007 at 02:38 PM
I think the real problem with jet skis is related to the inefficiencies of a jet drive. They just dont do anything (including steering) unless you are
revving the engine to ear splitting levels.
You can have fun on an ATV at low speeds. Not on a jet ski.bajamigo - 7-12-2007 at 03:33 PM
Gee, I wonder what would happen if a bunch of fairly well-off Mexicans went to the US for "a little relaxation of the rules." I'm sure nobody would
mind.BajaWarrior - 7-12-2007 at 03:37 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by bajamigo
Gee, I wonder what would happen if a bunch of fairly well-off Mexicans went to the US for "a little relaxation of the rules." I'm sure nobody would
mind.
They allready do, everyone does.
Bending the Rules in the U.S.
MrBillM - 7-12-2007 at 03:40 PM
There are already something like 12 million bending the rules in the U.S.bajamigo - 7-12-2007 at 03:42 PM
Sorry, I guess I got into the wrong thread.DENNIS - 7-12-2007 at 04:44 PM
Shame on you.bajamigo - 7-12-2007 at 04:48 PM
I know. I was lost, looking for the one about noise and bothering people and stuff like that. Instead, I wandered into the immigration thread, home of
the unidimensional.DENNIS - 7-12-2007 at 06:03 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by JZ
There is a herd mentality on this board. ATV's are the sport of middle aged white guys. Dirt bikes and wave runners are for the young. You guys are
showing your age big time.
[Edited on 7-12-2007 by JZ]
Is that a fact? [ no answer required ]
Truth from me is, I can't stand the shore launched pests because of that. They tend to stay by the shore line. Their big-balled pilots seem to get
off on their Top Gun fantasy at the expense of everybody on the beach and couldn't care less 'cause their need for speed and thrills is all they have
at the moment.
Show some respect with your toys. It isn't our old age. It's your acting like a careless child that causes the problems.
Take your little go-fast piece of crap off-shore and have a ball. The shoreline is for quiet relaxation......even for youngsters less than sixty, or
fifty. or........
By the way........... I saw a Negro on an ATV at Laguna Hanson last year. Can you believe that? He didn't know it was supposed to be for White
folks.
I didn't tell him.Russ - 7-12-2007 at 06:13 PM
Dennis I agree.. But I was disappointed in you for your Last two sentences. TOTALLY NOT GOOD!DENNIS - 7-12-2007 at 06:15 PM
Why's that?
I didn't refer to the sport of middle age white guys. Read back.bajamigo - 7-12-2007 at 07:08 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by JZ
There is a herd mentality on this board. As soon as a couple people start saying the same thing no one has the balls to defend their point of view in
fear of getting trappled by the herd. So you only here one side of the story here.
Yeah, right. How long have you been on this board? And the word is "trampled."
[Edited on 7-13-2007 by bajamigo]DENNIS - 7-12-2007 at 07:12 PM
Russ...........
I'm waiting for your reply. "Totally not good" didn't set well with me. I believe it was unstudied.
What do you think?JZ - 7-12-2007 at 07:52 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by bajamigo
Yeah, right. How long have you been on this board?
[Edited on 7-13-2007 by bajamigo]
You can't figure that one out on your own??
[Edited on 7-13-2007 by JZ]
Rhetorical question
bajamigo - 7-12-2007 at 10:10 PM
a question asked solely to produce an effect or to make an assertion and not to elicit a reply.Russ - 7-13-2007 at 06:39 AM
Dennis,
I did reread and then wanted to think on it a bit before I replied. I see your point and understand your remark now. But it still stands out as a
inappropriate to to me. "White Guys" is one thing but "Negro on an ATV"? I don't write well and don't express myself as well as I'd like. I do
understand your come back on the "White Guy" comment. I just have trouble with "Negro".
RussDENNIS - 7-13-2007 at 07:49 AM
Thanks Russ ....
I know the word doesn't have most common usage status but, I don't think it's offensive or inappropriate.......yet. I'll avoid using it in the
future.JZ - 7-13-2007 at 07:57 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by bajamigo
a question asked solely to produce an effect or to make an assertion and not to elicit a reply.
Hmm, for some reason I just don't think you're that clever...nice try though.
And, if you don't think there is a herd on this board you really are a newbie...but keep at it and it will become more obvious to you.
There is a predominat demographic that has certain beliefs about life, polictics, development, money, women, history, etc., etc. This thread is a
very good example of the herd in action. Because I can guantee you there lots of happy owners on this board.bajamigo - 7-13-2007 at 08:38 AM
Quote:
There is a predominat demographic that has certain beliefs about life, polictics, development, money, women, history, etc., etc. This thread is a
very good example of the herd in action. Because I can guantee you there lots of happy owners on this board.
Thanks for the "GUANTEE."
Res ipsa loquitur.
PC for Me ? NAH.
MrBillM - 7-13-2007 at 08:58 AM
Trouble with the word NEGRO ? The Spanish word for BLACK, which became the preferred term in the 70s. Being in Mexico, it would be the proper term,
wouldn't it ? Certainly less vague than the OTHER common term "Colored" which is still in use by the National Association for the Advancement of
Colored People". When I was young and living in South L.A., Colored was considered the POLITE term to use.
This PC nonsense is tiresome. The current preferred term "African American" could logically be applied to any person (including White) who was born
in Africa and became an American Citizen.
I'm sure this is "Guanteed" to get me "Trappled" as a (the ?) preeminent member of the Herd.wilderone - 7-13-2007 at 09:07 AM
pville: aren't you glad you asked?Russ - 7-13-2007 at 09:27 AM
Sr. Presedente de la Herd, Nice of you to volunteer for leader of our all inclusive group. Back to the thread: I don't like jet skis in my front yard
either.
[Edited on 7-13-2007 by Russ]bajamigo - 7-13-2007 at 09:56 AM
Amen.
Back on Track. No More digressing.
MrBillM - 7-13-2007 at 10:05 AM
Like Anything else that Humans do, painting with a Broad Brush is bound to elicit defenders citing nonconforming examples. In the case of both Dirt
Bikes and Wave Runners there are, no doubt, numerous riders who operate with courtesy around others, but the majority I've seen take effort to annoy
and endanger those around them resulting in a pronounced antipathy towards those riders.
I once harangued my wife for putting the helm hard over on our sailboat to avoid one of those riders who was making close passes at us. I always held
course on the theory that, having the bigger boat AND the Right of Way, we would suffer less damage than the (Deserving) miscreant.
We also had great insurance. If someone goes out of their way to annoy, they deserve WHATEVER fate and circumstance deal them.Cypress - 7-13-2007 at 11:02 AM
Jet skis, boom boxes, loud cars, are on the same level as blowing smoke in a non-smokers face. No problem with any of 'em unless they intrude on my
life experience.bajamigo - 7-14-2007 at 07:49 AM
Quote:
I'm sure this is "Guanteed" to get me "Trappled" as a (the ?) preeminent member of the Herd.
Only if you're one of the "predominat" few.
Maybe
bajaguy - 7-14-2007 at 08:22 AM
Pre-dormant????....Hook - 7-14-2007 at 09:01 AM
My latest newsletter from Boat US has the telling statistic that PWCs make up about 9% of total boaters but are involved in 26% of all boating
accidents.
Accidental Boaters
MrBillM - 7-14-2007 at 09:46 AM
It's interesting that the accident statistics for PWBs have remained at that same general (High) level. Back in the 90s when I was involved with the
USCG Aux and assisted in teaching Boating safety classes, the HIGH accident rate and ignorance of boating regulations among that group prompted
legislators to campaign for mandatory boating instruction. That never happened due to lobbying by ALL segments of the Boating Industry. The PWB
groups claimed that voluntary informational campaigns by their industry would bring the numbers down.
It Didn't Happen.bajaguy - 7-14-2007 at 09:56 AM
Unfortunately you can't legislate common senseCypress - 7-14-2007 at 11:55 AM
And good manners.