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BajaGeoff - 7-31-2007 at 11:13 AM

What? I am not sure where you are coming from with this.

toneart - 7-31-2007 at 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by soulpatch
Shouldn't that kind of stuff be kept private rather than being posted, anonymously or not, to prove a point?
Not cool no matter who is doing it.

What kind of stuff? :?:

BajaGeoff - 7-31-2007 at 11:19 AM

Was this an accidental reply to another post soulpatch?

DENNIS - 7-31-2007 at 11:29 AM

Somebody's having a bad dream.

CaboRon - 7-31-2007 at 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BajaGeoff
Was this an accidental reply to another post soulpatch?

Yes, As stands it means nothing ... How about some context ?

[Edited on 7-31-2007 by CaboRon]

toneart - 7-31-2007 at 11:31 AM

I have those kind of dreams sometimes, after I have posted late into the night. :spingrin:

Slowmad - 7-31-2007 at 11:32 AM

You'd have to be a real mouthbreather to post U2U's in a public forum.
Or to "out" hidden regions on the WWW.
I wouldn't drain on such a toad if he caught fire.
Knowing the mileage of everything and the value of nothing is no way to go through life.

toneart - 7-31-2007 at 11:35 AM

Is it me or is it dark in here? :cool:

edm1 - 7-31-2007 at 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by soulpatch
Shouldn't that kind of stuff be kept private rather than being posted, anonymously or not, to prove a point?
Not cool no matter who is doing it.

My take on that is if the U2U follows the rules of ethics (as in civilized), since privacy is an issue of civilized society, then yes it is only proper to keep it private/civil. However, when that U2U goes outside being ethical and civil, for example it is verbally abusive, coercive and personally threatening, then the recipient is not bound to keep it private. On the contrary, in fact, just as an example, it should be brought to civil authority (maybe the moderator of this board) or to a LE officer.

When we use electronic means of communication that we don't own (in this case Bajanomad's U2U), we cannot technically call it private (we don't own = not private). That's how I view it. Therefore, when I send a U2U in Bajanomad, to me it is a given that my "private" message could be divulged to anyone later, since I don't own this site and have no control of it.

U2U senders beware, if you're concerned about privacy.

[Edited on 7-31-2007 by edm1]

bajajudy - 7-31-2007 at 11:53 AM

I dont have a clue what Soulpatch is talking about in particular, BUT I have considered recently suggesting that these personal attacks that pop up in the middle of threads would be better handled through U2U's. Most of the time the rest of us couldnt care less what you(that is the impersonal you not any one in particular) think of another board member. If you have a problem, take it to U2U and duke it out there.
So I think that I agree with Soulpatch

edm1 - 7-31-2007 at 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bajajudy
I dont have a clue what Soulpatch is talking about in particular

I think he's referring to another thread:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=25975&pag...

DENNIS - 7-31-2007 at 12:10 PM

I'm still lost but, that's nothing new.

bajajudy - 7-31-2007 at 12:11 PM

Well, mash my mouth.
Jeez, forget my idea about U2U's. I had no idea that people would then broadcast them.
YUCK :no:

CaboRon - 7-31-2007 at 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by edm1

Quote:

Originally posted by bajajudy
I dont have a clue what Soulpatch is talking about in particular

I think he's referring to another thread:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=25975&pag...

Now I see ..... :wow:

CaboRon

DENNIS - 7-31-2007 at 12:19 PM

Yeah..... I just saw the link. Poor taste, names or not. He should know better. Maybe he was having the bad dream. I'm withholding his name so nobody will know who I'm talking about.

[Edited on 7-31-2007 by DENNIS]

toneart - 7-31-2007 at 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by soulpatch
Thank you for the thoughtful replies.......
and the special insight from the lunatic fringe. I've lived in that neighborhood a few times.
Nothing accidental here, I just didn't want to completely divert another thread w/all the sidebar BS that often occurs.

Soulpatch,

You started a new thread here that could have been more productive for you and for us readers, if you hadn't been so cryptic. We were left to wonder and speculate as to what specifically you were talking about. Fortunately edm1 made reference to another thread that he supposes you are referring to.

Regarding that thread, I knew it would involve a lot of time looking at photos, so I put it off until a later time. Consequently I and others were clueless as to what your rant was trying to accomplish.

My point is, you had the opportunity to get your point across and you blew it........sounding like..........well...........kinda like a bad dream. :?:

Sharksbaja - 7-31-2007 at 12:44 PM

Not one to call someone a name. But in this case I'll make an exception. David, feel free to post my u2u also.

latortugaguera - 7-31-2007 at 01:05 PM

Thank god I don't send U2U's :saint:

Hook - 7-31-2007 at 01:37 PM

Well, I thought it was pretty obvious who and what he was talking about.

Anyway, what part of YOU to YOU dont people understand? It's not U-2-US.

I keep mine private and expect the same courtesy. If that fails me, I guess I will reconsider my rules of engagement.

I've never seen a lightning rod quite like DK on any site.............sometimes it's not even his fault. But, man, what a lightning rod.

CaboRon - 7-31-2007 at 01:40 PM

Long , Long Ago I Realized That Nothing Sent Over The Net Is Private. Only Speak Truthfully and Without Attacking Others Or Yourself. CaboRon

bajalera - 7-31-2007 at 01:43 PM

Sheesh! I've read all this and still can't figure out what everybody is talking about.

DENNIS - 7-31-2007 at 02:25 PM

I love convoluted BS. It's what I live for. I've even been known to share it from time to time.

Bob and Susan - 7-31-2007 at 02:25 PM

i thought u2's were private...and not for the public forum :no:

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What is U2U?
U2U means User to User. It is a simple messaging client that you can use to send messages to fellow members on this board.
You can check your U2U inbox by clicking here or going to your profile.

The board administrator might have disabled this function for certain users.

NOTE: Please be aware that Super Administrators are able to view your u2u inbox. This is for forum security and not meant to be an invasion of your privacy. As with the internet in general, please use caution when sending sensitive information through the u2u system.
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David K - 7-31-2007 at 02:42 PM

Rather than paraphrase what was sent to me, it was better to have you see what I was responding to... They are just words if the sender's name isn't included, anyway. I did so because I asked all of you to wait until I was finished with that (Part 2) trip report... Instead some of you who think Baja belongs to you and not the Mexicans who live and work there (and would probably really love to have more tourist business), jumped to conclussions based on my past detailed road reports. One of you even said I was posting GPS waypoints (which if you can read, will see none) to secert places.

I have been on Nomad since the very beginning... after Doug, I am the oldest active Nomad here. So, I think I know what is cool or uncool to do. Sorry if a few of you newer Nomads don't like it. But, I am not trying to hurt anyone or cause problems. If I posted the names of those who U2U'd me, then you would have an issue about violation of privacy.

The 'distant Pacific' (formerly known as the S**** S******) is a cold, cloudy, dusty place in the north half and already discoverd with government graded roads and paved highways (Santa Rosalillita) in the south half. My trip report isn't going to change any of that.

vgabndo - 7-31-2007 at 02:54 PM

More than once I've been tempted to share a U2U which was sent to me. Many of you would be surprised by the venom, and nastiness that some people on this board can puke-up when they don't have to be made accountable by a public viewing. :mad:

Hook - 7-31-2007 at 03:02 PM

I think we can all probably still utter the terrible words "Seven Sisters" if we want.

I just did a Google search and it didnt show up in AT LEAST the first 10 pages of returns.

It's somewhere behind the Seven Sisters Writing Club and the Seven Sisters Rugby Club and women's basketball team at Haverford College and of course the Seven Sisters constellation.

I think the surfers can relax........... :lol:

David K - 7-31-2007 at 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vgabndo
More than once I've been tempted to share a U2U which was sent to me. Many of you would be surprised by the venom, and nastiness that some people on this board can puke-up when they don't have to be made accountable by a public viewing. :mad:

10-4 on that Perry... I don't think anything posted on Baja Nomad should lead anyone to that kind of verbal or written violance (which I have received).

This is a place for friends and fun... If you don't like what is written here, then don't read it... But don't tell me I can't write something as neutral as a trip report or send me hate u2u's. Have I ever told any of you what you can post (other than no personal attacks or lies)?

David K - 7-31-2007 at 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hook
I think we can all probably still utter the terrible words "Seven Sisters" if we want.

I just did a Google search and it didnt show up in AT LEAST the first 10 pages of returns.

It's somewhere behind the Seven Sisters Writing Club and the Seven Sisters Rugby Club and women's basketball team at Haverford College and of course the Seven Sisters constellation.

I think the surfers can relax........... :lol:

THAT'S INTERESTING!!!

Maybe I should go back and call the area Seven Sisters again? Try Google for 'distant Pacific'!!!

latortugaguera - 7-31-2007 at 03:19 PM

I think is wonderful to read how much David love’s Baja and want to share the euphoria of his trips with others.

BajaNomad - 7-31-2007 at 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hook
I think we can all probably still utter the terrible words "_____ _______" if we want.

I just did a Google search and it didnt show up in AT LEAST the first 10 pages of returns.

It's somewhere behind the Seven Sisters Writing Club and the Seven Sisters Rugby Club and women's basketball team at Haverford College and of course the Seven Sisters constellation.

I think the surfers can relax........... :lol:

But it's on Wikipedia (a "stub" anyway)....

http://tinyurl.com/yw7y4p

[Edited on 7-31-2007 by BajaNomad]

Al G - 7-31-2007 at 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by latortugaguera
I think is wonderful to read how much David love’s Baja and want to share the euphoria of his trips with others.

Damn your other post didn't last long enough for me quote you, to call you one stupid ****h :fire:

I agree with this post....for DK

Bob and Susan - 7-31-2007 at 04:28 PM

geeez i MUST be a simpleton...i've NEVER heard of a "stub" except when talking about my toes :lol:

seven sisters=....

"A stub...
is an article containing only a few sentences of text...

which is too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of a subject...

but not so short as to provide NO useful information"

Hook - 7-31-2007 at 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BajaNomad

Quote:

But it's on Wikipedia (a "stub" anyway)....

http://tinyurl.com/yw7y4p

[Edited on 7-31-2007 by BajaNomad]

Oh no, this is TERRIBLE NEWS !!

But wait..........Wikipedia is the product of sources from the internet.

We need to break out the pitchforks and torches and find out who has done this dastardly deed !!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

The Gull - 7-31-2007 at 07:39 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised at your output.

The Gull - 7-31-2007 at 07:42 PM

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I'd feel fine, if six were nine.

vgabndo - 7-31-2007 at 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Gull

Quote:

I wouldn't be surprised at your output.

Hmmm...I will neither confirm nor deny that there is any connection between this poster and the quote he/she has copied. :lol:

bajadogs - 7-31-2007 at 09:43 PM

vgabndo,
Your tactfulness is downright civil!
:lol:

toneart - 7-31-2007 at 11:12 PM

Down is up and up is down
There is convolution all around. :spingrin:

The Gull - 8-1-2007 at 07:33 AM

...Posting or even discussing the content of a u2u is childish, more so when the poster asserts an ethic by choosing not to release the u2u. That is self-serving, sand box behavior.

Holding oneself, publicly, in high esteem for not releasing fabricated situations should not be the type of behavior that receive exaltations. But then again, if it wasn't for low standards, some people would have no standards.

I'd feel fine, if six were nine.

vgabndo - 8-1-2007 at 12:21 PM

OK Gull...no fabricated situations, no sand box behavior.

A couple of weeks ago I carelessly posted a link to a site about global poverty and related it to a thread about "No Poverty in Baja". The moderators pushed my post to Off-Topic where PJC/Baja Blackie immediately belittled it. I personally deleted the post, and re-posted it as a reply to the "Povery" thread where it can still be found. It should have been in that thread in the first place.

You, Gull, then left the following message in my U2U:

Inbox
Sent: 7-15-2007 at 09:36 AM
Message: How do you like the deleting of your f-cked up posts?

I responded with: "which post would that be?" and you have never responded.

In answer to your foul-mouthed comment: I like it fine, I deleted my post and that was exactly what I intended to do.

I invite my fellow nomads to open the link and judge for themselves if the content has any validity in a discussion of poverty in Mexico, and I hope that you'll agree that Gull's post above made it permissable to publish his U2U.

Here's the original link to which Gull objected.

http://www.miniature-earth.com/me_english.htm

[Edited on 8-1-2007 by vgabndo]

Natalie Ann - 8-1-2007 at 12:30 PM

vgabndo.... As someone said yesterday, it's a YOU to YOU, not a You to US. I for one would most appreciate you showing respect for that.... I don't wanta read your mail no matter what the content. And it has nada to do with my politics.

Nena, the Berkeley girl

vgabndo - 8-1-2007 at 03:11 PM

Nena: I'm sorry for the offense. The problem is I don't want to read my OWN u2u's when I get stuff like I posted which is only designed to kick sand in my face. After being accused of "fabricating" my assertion, I could't resist "outing" The Gull for what was not a confidential communication but a body slam for which he didn't want to be publicly responsible.

I am plenty familiar with what Gull thinks of me on the off-topic board, that is where it belongs. I guess I've proven myself not man enough to just let it pass when he brings it onto the Baja side of the board. Again, I'm sorry for the offense to you or anyone who thinks that these personal attacks should be kept private.

Natalie Ann - 8-1-2007 at 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vgabndo
Nena: I guess I've proven myself not man enough to just let it pass when he brings it onto the Baja side of the board. Again, I'm sorry for the offense to you or anyone who thinks that these personal attacks should be kept private.

Well, vgabundo, you have proven yourself man enough to admit a mistake.... and that's alot.

Thanks for the apology. For the record, I wasn't "offended"... just really don't wanta read other people's personal mail... didn't want you and DK to be starting a trend. :no:

And did you know that you can block u2u's from anyone you wish... they can send 'em to ya all they want, but you never have to see 'em. :light:

Nena

Diver - 8-1-2007 at 04:21 PM

Should I guess that those that protest the most have some old nasty U2's in their outboxes that they would prefer remain private ?? :light:

And Nena; please quit sending me those errogenous --------, and ---------photos by U2 or I might have to go public ! Oops, I just did :biggrin:

Just received by unnamed person in my U2U.........

Hook - 8-1-2007 at 04:41 PM

I am rethinking my rules of engagement and will likely expose the whereabouts of the Seven Sisters to 4 -Wheel and Offroad Magazine unless this stops immediately.

Natalie Ann - 8-1-2007 at 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Diver
And Nena; please quit sending me those errogenous --------, and ---------photos by U2 or I might have to go public ! Oops, I just did :biggrin:

well okey doke, Diver.... if you insist. :lol:

wait.... errogenous???? :lol:

vgabndo - 8-1-2007 at 07:34 PM

Thanks Nena...my "ignore list" is now up to date.

Thanks alot, Larry........

Hook - 8-1-2007 at 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

Originally posted by Hook
...will likely expose the whereabouts of the Seven Sisters to 4 -Wheel and Offroad Magazine unless this stops immediately.

Shhh, don't tell anybody, but they're in a secret wherehouse in Bahia Asuncion... :saint:

--Larry

.........for going public with my ewe-to-ewe.

Paula - 8-1-2007 at 09:44 PM

eeeeeewe...

this eraticallly errogenous egregiousness is making me feel erroniously ersatz....

ergo I say.... er... see ya tomorrow.... early, and with a cup of earl grey.

shari - 8-2-2007 at 09:55 AM

Mitotero Lencho.....gosh can't ANYBODY keep a secret on this board? another one of mexicos dirty little secrets out of the bag about the whoarehouse..******** hombre, que te pasa

[Edited on 8-2-2007 by Hose A]

Paula - 8-2-2007 at 09:59 AM

Shari, did you mean the whoarewehouse?

CaboRon - 8-7-2007 at 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Gull
...Posting or even discussing the content of a u2u is childish, more so when the poster asserts an ethic by choosing not to release the u2u. That is self-serving, sand box behavior.

Holding oneself, publicly, in high esteem for not releasing fabricated situations should not be the type of behavior that receive exaltations. But then again, if it wasn't for low standards, some people would have no standards.

I'd feel fine, if six were nine.

If the U2U received were wriiten in a slanderous or threatening manner , then I see no reason why it shouldn't be published ; and every reason why it should. Take responsibility for your words.

-CaboRon

CaboRon - 8-7-2007 at 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Diver
Should I guess that those that protest the most have some old nasty U2's in their outboxes that they would prefer remain private ?? :light:

Diver,

You sure hit the nail on the head . :light:

- CaboRon

CaboRon - 8-7-2007 at 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

Originally posted by CaboRon
If the U2U received were wriiten in a slanderous or threatening manner , then I see no reason why it shouldn't be published ; and every reason why it should.

I disagree. If there's a problem, it should be reported to the moderators. I can think of no defensible justification for publishing private messages in an open forum without the author's permission.

--Larry

Larry,

I have to yeild to a more considered response, and I have to agree with you, with only one exception: And that is if an actual threat is percieved , then perhaps the police should be involved.

- CaboRon

Sharksbaja - 8-7-2007 at 11:11 AM

On which side of the border?

CaboRon - 8-7-2007 at 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharksbaja
On which side of the border?

toneart - 8-7-2007 at 12:30 PM

I'm glad I don't have a fight in this dog! :smug:

Hook - 8-7-2007 at 01:29 PM

Quote:

I can think of no defensible justification for publishing private messages in an open forum without the author's permission.

--Larry

How about discouraging slanderous and threatening u2us?
:light:

bajajudy - 8-7-2007 at 01:33 PM

I think that someone mentioned blocks for certain users...use that and erase the rest and forget about it....let it go. :saint:

CaboRon - 8-7-2007 at 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

Originally posted by Hook

Quote:

I can think of no defensible justification for publishing private messages in an open forum without the author's permission.

--Larry

How about discouraging slanderous and threatening u2us?
:light:

That's an administrative and/or legal problem, not justification for a community dogfight.

According to generally accepted BBS protocol, U2U's are private messages. If we as a community decide we don't like those rules, let's define a new set which pertains to this group, not break them according to our personal interpretation of content.

--Larry

I have gone through the "Board Rules" and find no mention of U2Us. There is no mention of privacy implied or stated.

There is however mention of all transmissions and that under user agreement # 4 the following is stated "You agree not to post or transmit unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harrassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, profane, hateful, racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable material of any kind"

- CaboRon

Note: It is an open forum. In general if you don't want to read it in the news or hear it in a courtroom do not post it or send it over the internet.

bajajudy - 8-7-2007 at 06:25 PM

I have been trying to resist this but.........

CabRon....

Keep it to yourself. no one else cares what someone has said to you. If you dont like it delete and forget about it. Avoid posts with that person...you will figure it out. We are not all angels :saint:

but we do try to keep it civilized, thanks to our moderators...let them handle it.

Sharksbaja - 8-7-2007 at 06:41 PM

I knew there was a reason. :lol:

Bob and Susan - 8-7-2007 at 06:45 PM

unethical...that's it larry

some people are unethical :light:

The Gull - 8-7-2007 at 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bob and Susan
unethical...that's it larry

some people are unethical :light:

Why can't we all think the same and be the same? Wouldn't that be a better world?

Lions and tigers and bears, oh my.

David K - 8-7-2007 at 07:16 PM

Larry (Lencho) and others,

I think you know I have never before posted any part of a U2U (with or without the sender's name)... and I agree the purpose of U2U is for personal conversation that doesn't need to be viewed by all.

In fact, I did not get 'personal' messages... but rediculous threats about a road report (over a road that appears on all maps we have). I asked at the very begining of my Part 2 post for everyone to wait for me to finish before jumping to conclusions. It was not a personal message, but the senders seemed to want to push their beliefs without the rest of this Nomad community to know.

Well, about 3 people had a fit and messed up the original thread so much that for the other 4,000 Nomads to enjoy it, I changed it to the 'surfer's are special why' thread... and reposted the trip report. The moderators and owners of Baja Nomad know the value of trip reports and that Baja isn't a private playground for the few, so they were working overtime to keep editing the harassing posts. They shouldn't have to do that as we all should be mature enough and decide if we want to read or go somewhere in Baja or not!

I posted a couple of U2U threats because I didn't want to get any more, I didn't want to paraphrase what I got either, but wanted you to see what motivated my reactions... Without including the sender's names, they are as private as anything else. I don't want anyone to be unhappy, but the selfish attitude that Nomads can't share trip details with each other is very un-amigo like and un-Mexican like as well.

As it turned out, the Part 2 of my trip report was just a log of a dirt road I traveled in Baja, with no mention of surf spots or disclosing any secret roads... and I didn't post any GPS waypoints if that even makes a difference?!

I want to make no enemies here... In fact, most of you know I am always willing to help with your Baja trips or history questions, hand out beers and stickers when we meet, etc.. Sorry if I sometimes do something you don't like... But as President Lincoln once said, "You can't please all the people all of the time"... So, get over it and contribute something people here would like to read about Baja California, okay?!! PEACE!!

oldhippie - 8-8-2007 at 06:25 AM

Gull, have you been listening to Hendrix lately. I'm catching some of his lyrics in your messages.

If so, I'll send you a U2U complimenting you on choice of music. I wouldn't want others to know that I've sent you a compliment.

Nothing sent over the Internet should be considered private. Don't you know that the NSA is reading all emails with super computers/software?

Oops, that's another thread best placed in the off-topic area. Sorry.

DENNIS - 8-8-2007 at 07:42 AM

Because one sends an unsolicited PM to a person doesn't make that person a confidant. That status must me mutually agreed upon as in, "Off the record" for reporters. How could anybody expect cordial and gracious hospitality when they drop in, unannounced, to berate and belittle? When did this behavior become so sacrosanct to be demanding of privacy and respect?
People here should, if thought necessary, write their disagreeable opinions in public and save their PM love letters for friends.

The Gull - 8-8-2007 at 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by oldhippie
Gull, have you been listening to Hendrix lately. I'm catching some of his lyrics in your messages.

If so, I'll send you a U2U complimenting you on choice of music. I wouldn't want others to know that I've sent you a compliment.

Nothing sent over the Internet should be considered private. Don't you know that the NSA is reading all emails with super computers/software?

Oops, that's another thread best placed in the off-topic area. Sorry.

Just mimicing your psycho brethren from NorCal, I blocked you from my U2U.

I refuse to accept your compliments and your messages would only be reworded as foul threats and posted by me on this board, where they don't belong, as someone already did with my friendly U2U's. So to avoid the misrepresention of your compliments via U2U, you will have to limit your compliments to postings in full view of others and barefoot servants, too.

Be secure, NSA wouldn't find you interesting. Let's just say, I would know.

CaboRon - 8-9-2007 at 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS
Because one sends an unsolicited PM to a person doesn't make that person a confidant. That status must me mutually agreed upon as in, "Off the record" for reporters. How could anybody expect cordial and gracious hospitality when they drop in, unannounced, to berate and belittle? When did this behavior become so sacrosanct to be demanding of privacy and respect?
People here should, if thought necessary, write their disagreeable opinions in public and save their PM love letters for friends.

Dennis,

I couldn't have said it better myself.

- CaboRon

oldhippie - 8-9-2007 at 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by The Gull

Quote:

thanks gull, I got quite a chuckle out of that :bounce:

jimi has the best licks on top of his poetry

Goin' to the beach now to make some castles made of sand.

jimi.jpg - 14kB

vgabndo - 8-9-2007 at 03:36 PM

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Dennis I agree completely. As a result, other than reporting the post as offensive, I'll take no action as a result of The Gull calling me a PSYCHO in public. His comment clearly says a lot more about him than it does about me. By spreading his bile into my u2u mailbox or spilling it here he tells us a lot about himself. We can all make our own judgements about his integrity as a man. Mr. Gull, I invite you to leave those kinds of insults on the off-topic where they belong.

This looks insulting to me....

Lee - 8-9-2007 at 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

Originally posted by vgabndo
Mr. Gull, I invite you to leave those kinds of insults on the off-topic where they belong.

Not even there, really-- the total lack of self control over in off-topic has ruined it for everybody but the frenzy feeders. :biggrin:

--Larry

Guess you haven't been off topic in awhile. Things have calmed down. That's, possibly, why Gull is over here?

Without naming names, who are you accusing of being Nomad ''frenzy feeders?"

:yes:

The Gull - 8-9-2007 at 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

Originally posted by Lee
Without naming names, who are you accusing of being Nomad ''frenzy feeders?"

Well, to just include a few: *******, ****** ********, ** ** ******* and the worst of all, ************* and ***.

--Larry

Include***** ***, ******, and ******.