BajaNomad - Want stories about Hospitals, Building a Home, or other Baja Experiences!

Want stories about Hospitals, Building a Home, or other Baja Experiences!

BajaBad - 9-9-2007 at 10:27 AM

There are some great story-tellers, and writers on this board... if you would like to be included in an E-book on Baja (short stories, a few paragraphs about experience, advice you have for other expats etc.) --

Viva La Baja! The Complete Relocation Guide to Baja, Mexico for Families and Retirees

Please email vivalabaja@yahoo.com. The book will be available by October 1st. Included throughout the text are stories by expats - that's you! - to give real-life perspectives for expat wannabees on subjects such as: Health care in Baja, Building a Home in Baja, Banking in Baja, Homeschooling Children in Baja or attending public or private schools, etc.

Health section needs input from locals -
Have you even been evacuated in an emergency? Been treated at a hospital or clinic, etc.

Any story is of value and will be considered or added if possible.

Thanks in advance! Molly

Email is incorrect - info@vivalabaja.com is correct

BajaBad - 9-9-2007 at 10:35 AM

Sorry, new website - please email stories to info@vivalabaja.com

Thanks much, Molly

DENNIS - 9-9-2007 at 11:22 AM

I once suffered a hand mangling dog bite and went to ISSTECALI Hospital emergency for treatment. The doctor on duty, a young woman, became my doctor for follow-up at her office. So, daily for two weeks I'd go to her office and sit in this wierd chair which had me prone on my back with my legs supported high in the air while she cleaned the wound and changed the dressing. She was a gynecologist with a good sense of humor.

Bob and Susan - 9-9-2007 at 11:24 AM

dennis i wonder if THAT will get in??? :yes:

BajaBad - 9-9-2007 at 12:17 PM

Love the story Dennis -- if you can give a little more info on ISSTECALI Hospital (is government, private, where located...) and if you had insurance or not - and how much the treatments were, I´d find a spot for it.

I need to know where you live as well, if you don´t mind, and a last name -can be included or not...

Looking for other stories on health care in Baja -- What insurance policies are best... etc. Thanks.

DENNIS - 9-9-2007 at 12:32 PM

ISSTECALI [ it may even have one more "S"] is in Ensenada, close to what is now a cruise ship terminal. This happened fifteen years ago. Cash is all that was happening at the time but, it wasn't much. If memory serves, 60 dollars at the hospital and 15 per visit in the stirrups.
The hospital is highly regarded but I don't think it's private. It may even be connected with the Social Security system. Don't know. Good hospital though.
At the time, I lived across the street from the hospital. Still in the same general location.

BajaBad - 9-9-2007 at 12:44 PM

Maybe a little more up-to-date story would be useful... have any more recent?

DENNIS - 9-9-2007 at 12:55 PM

Well, I don't but, I'll bet my Gynecologist does.

gnukid - 9-9-2007 at 02:06 PM

Do you have a rough idea of the production schedule, editorial submission cut off date or final cutoff and any other project info to help us writers understand the project, the role of contributions, its intended audience and purpose? Cool project.

Bob and Susan - 9-9-2007 at 03:16 PM

what's our fee per story????

remember when on seinfeld...
kramer sold his stories to elaines boss for his book???

DENNIS - 9-9-2007 at 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by gnukid
Do you have a rough idea of the production schedule, editorial submission cut off date or final cutoff and any other project info to help us writers understand the project, the role of contributions, its intended audience and purpose? Cool project.

OOOWE. We have wonderment. Is this really a production to enlighten Baja People? Or is this one these worn-out first time fonts of knowledge that are meant to set the new-comer on a forwarned path?
Seems gnukid brings questions worthy of answer.

[Edited on 9-9-2007 by DENNIS]

[Edited on 9-9-2007 by DENNIS]

BajaBad - 9-9-2007 at 04:26 PM

Gnukid - I like the photo (the color I would paint my boat... if I had one...)

I mentioned above the E-book will be published by Oct 1st... that´s my production deadline - as articles are introducing it in two online publications that month. You can get a little more info from www.vivalabaja.com - but is a work in progress... photos and download of book completed by Oct.

Stories like the one above offered by Dennis aren´t really what I am looking for, or what the intended audience (retirees and families) would find of value. Maybe if he has a run-in with a male proctocolgist, I´ll give it another review. :lol:

I re-submitted the request on other forum, as realized it wasn´t really a question about Baja, but more of a request for Baja Nomads, most of whom I think are pretty cool people. :tumble:

Email if you have more questions - info@vivalabaja.com

More info here: www.vivalabaja.com

DENNIS - 9-9-2007 at 04:28 PM

BajaBad..........
I tried to post to your other effort here but couldn't..........
Could you give us more information about your project? What is your point? We can only hope it's not one of those guides to living in Baja. There is no formula for answering that question that could be put together in less than three large volumns. The childish efforts of the past are stacked up like unused hotcakes at IHOP.
What is your desire with your quest? Where are you? Do you live here? Do you visit here? I hope you arn't being allured by a naiveté of your interest. Let us know what's up. We're here to help.

DENNIS - 9-9-2007 at 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBad
I mentioned above the E-book will be published by Oct 1st... that´s my production deadline -

We cross-posted up ther BB but, who sets your deadline?

rpleger - 9-9-2007 at 04:38 PM

If you're worried about health care and expect to have anything like you are used to in the free world.
DON"T MOVE HERE.....and b-tch about it.

Do not resuscitate is not an option here.

bancoduo - 9-9-2007 at 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by rpleger
If you're worried about health care and expect to have anything like you are used to in the free world.
DON"T MOVE HERE.....and b-tch about it.

Where is the FREE world? I want to move there. :cool:

DENNIS - 9-9-2007 at 05:04 PM

Who in the hell wants a free world. I just want one that's reasonable.

bancoduo - 9-9-2007 at 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Who in the hell wants a free world. I just want one that's reasonable.

Lesser people have lesser goals. :rolleyes:

CaboRon - 9-9-2007 at 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS
Who in the hell wants a free world. I just want one that's reasonable.

Osprey - 9-9-2007 at 06:15 PM

But seriously folks.......as I understand it all the things that have appeared on this board are the property of Doug Means. Maybe Molly & co should talk to him first. All active posters added lots of info about Baja Retirement over the years and somebody sees that as a base for merchandising that info. Probably good people with good ideas. They need to talk to the owner.

amir - 9-9-2007 at 06:42 PM

I would never check a website called "Viva La Baja."

There was a discussion on this board a few weeks ago about the appropriateness of calling Baja, "La Baja". I know people still use that expression, that's their choice, but then that's exactly why I am not interested in this project...

-- Amir

DENNIS - 9-9-2007 at 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by amir
I would never check a website called "Viva La Baja."

There was a discussion on this board a few weeks ago about the appropriateness of calling Baja, "La Baja". I know people still use that expression, that's their choice, but then that's exactly why I am not interested in this project...

-- Amir

Good points Amir but, I think it was "The Baja."

BajaBad - 9-9-2007 at 07:02 PM

Seriously Osprey -- no worries! I posted a question asking for story submissions from anyone interested -- said nothing about taking any info off of previous posts from this board, or using anything as a ´base for merchandising - nor would I.

I hope that is clear. Most of the responses to a very simple, and non-antagonizing request I made (read the initial posting requesting stories) have been a bit - if not more so - hostile in nature. I am starting to wonder what Baja Nomads has become since the last time I used to read and reply to posts. I hope this is just a bad day.

I appreciate the responses I have gotten from folks with great info who would enjoy being a part of this venture.

Thank you much.

DENNIS - 9-9-2007 at 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Osprey
But seriously folks.......as I understand it all the things that have appeared on this board are the property of Doug Means. Maybe Molly & co should talk to him first. All active posters added lots of info about Baja Retirement over the years and somebody sees that as a base for merchandising that info. Probably good people with good ideas. They need to talk to the owner.

Not trying to be argumentative, George but, have you taken these points into consideration with your creations?

bajajudy - 9-9-2007 at 07:35 PM

I thought the same thing, Dennis. Particularly Seahawk.

Whoa, how about my pix....are they Doug's now? :?:

CaboRon - 9-9-2007 at 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Not trying to be argumentative, George but, have you taken these points into consideration with your creations?

Yes,
Does Doug Means own YOUR stories ?

amir - 9-9-2007 at 07:43 PM

Dennis and lencho,

"The Baja" = "La Baja"

I KNOW people use the expression, in either language. It just turns ME off. Just a personal opinion.

-- El Amir

DENNIS - 9-9-2007 at 08:05 PM

What a bunch of CRAP.
This gal, Molly, comes here looking for information. That is the essence of the site...information. She commits the mortal sin of mentioning her needs and desires for said information, all the time telling us of it's use by her. Not why but, what.
All of a sudden, she is attacked for her questions and motives as though they are inappropriate. Her questions about Baja HERE were inappropriate.
Some went on to imply that here use of information from this site could be considered illegal. Thievery. Plaigarism. Stealing.
We don't know Molly's motives or intent with this information but, it was supposed to be info on Baja. Something we're all supposed to be proud of, even to the point of spreading it around to others.
Molly was less than candid about her intentions , maybe disingenuos but, that doesn't matter. That's her problem. What matters is the inappropriate self defense that arose from her meaningless inquiry.
It looks like Baja Nomad has developed a homeowners association.

longlegsinlapaz - 9-9-2007 at 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Her questions about Baja HERE were inappropriate.

We don't know Molly's motives or intent with this information but, it was supposed to be info on Baja. Something we're all supposed to be proud of, even to the point of spreading it around to others.

Molly was less than candid about her intentions , maybe disingenuos but, that doesn't matter. That's her problem. What matters is the inappropriate self defense that arose from her meaningless inquiry.

How on earth was "Molly less than candid about her intentions , maybe disingenuos"?? How were "Her questions about Baja HERE were inappropriate."??

She stated in her initial post she wanted personal experience short stories for the intent to possibly publish them in an e-book, she stated the topic areas she was interested in, and she stated how she hoped to use the information, and what her deadline is, so how can you say "We don't know Molly's motives or intent with this information"??? What did she leave out?? The price of the book? Way to go dennis....you actually referred to her "meaningless inquiry"!

I'll bet it's not meaningless to her or she wouldn't be writing a book about subject matter we experience on a daily basis.

motoged - 9-9-2007 at 10:46 PM

To take this thread in a bit of a different (less protectionist) direction, have any of you checked out the website "Molly" has? At the bottom of the page it reads:

"The Baja is a stunningly beautiful area of Aquamarine waters, beaches and desert, with endless opportunities for life and living. Just remember: Just remember: "Once You Go Baja, You May Never Go Back!" Molly McHugh

Now, I don't imagine Molly intended a double-entendre, but as a "writer" she should tidy up her writing style.....unless she intended to suggest to folks reading her future e-book that folks won't want to return to Baja once they have visited it... :lol:

I assume that she is suggesting that "ex-pats" won't return to their country of origin after they experience Baja .... Duh !!! That's why they are ex-pats!! :?:

Aside from that, "Go, girl !"

Osprey - 9-10-2007 at 06:50 AM

Molly & co must have read the posts on this site and over time learned that many posters had given valuable info she could incorporate into a book/site of her own. Now that she's asking for such anecdotes from board members/posters some of them might recall something helpful, appropriate, reach back into the Nomad archives to retrieve the info, perhaps copy it to send to Molly's site. Paragraph 2 of the board rules says it all belongs to the owner of this board -- can't do anything to it, with it without permission of the owner. Nothing sinister or suspicious about any of that -- just regular, sound business practices IMHO.

BajaBad - 9-10-2007 at 06:58 AM

Some of those posts were humourous - much better and thanks.

I may have unintentionally struck a nerve... it is not a ´come all ye to Baja´ brainless book but a serious relocation guide full of facts and info for those who are thinking of making the journey or in the process (I didn´t give more info earlier as most appreciate short postings).

And it won´t end up stacked up like hotcakes at IHOP (thank goodness)... it is an E-book, will be electronically published (you download from Website) - those who find it useful will have access to it anywhere they live, and a print-out at their disposal anytime they want, those who don´t can send it into hyperspace, or back into hyperspace, depending on how you look at things... :smug:

Any questions or more info would be better to email - Molly

CaboRon - 9-10-2007 at 07:24 AM

Welcome Bajabad,

I am leaving on the first of oct. Computer will be packed on the 30th of sept.
I might need the info in your e book.
if you have it ready earlier let me know.
Thanks
CaboRon

Who Owns What In A Free Society

CaboRon - 9-10-2007 at 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

Originally posted by Osprey
Paragraph 2 of the board rules says it all belongs to the owner of this board -- can't do anything to it, with it without permission of the owner. Nothing sinister or suspicious about any of that -- just regular, sound business practices IMHO.

I'm not a lawyer so I'm on thin ice here, but with all due respect to Doug, I find that paragraph legally questionable for a BBS-type website, for a number of reasons. I don't think it can be taken to mean we cede intellectual rights to material we publish on his board, and if it did, that probably would mean that as assigned owner of rights, Doug would be legally liable for anything posted. THAT is a burden that most BBS owners avoid like the plague, and historically I believe BBS's have been considered common carriers like the telephone company, status which is obviously broken if the administrators start claiming ownership/responsibility of the published material. That (common carrier immunity) could also a reason to be VERY careful in editing of posters' material, since in doing so, the administrator in effect becomes co-author of the posting and shares the responsibility/liability.

--Larry

Lencho,

I believe you are right..... and my attorney also believes you are correct in your assesment of "common carrier" statutes.

If I felt that my interrectual rights were in any way compromised by my particapation on this forum, I would have to seriously rethink making any contribution to this site.

Doug Means, I would like to hear you chime in on this issue, as your name has been used by others.

Your comments are requested here,

As serious legal issues have now been raised.

And I think a public statement of your take on this is probably in order.

Thanks,

- CaboRon

[Edited on 9-10-2007 by CaboRon]

DanO - 9-10-2007 at 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBad
Maybe if he has a run-in with a male proctocolgist . . .

Ahem. Let me just say that the words "run-in" and "proctologist" should never, ever, be uttered in the same sentence. And if Dennis has any such experience, I for one definitely do NOT want to read about it. C'mon, I just ate lunch.

DanO - 9-10-2007 at 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by lencho

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Originally posted by CaboRon
If I felt that my interrectual rights were in any way compromised by my particapation on this forum,

Dunno about rights, but there are those that would allege that one's interrectual development can be seriously hampered by particapation here... :lol:

--Larry

Interrectual? Somehow I think that goes along with the proctology angle.

CaboRon - 9-10-2007 at 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

Originally posted by CaboRon
If I felt that my interrectual rights were in any way compromised by my particapation on this forum,

Dunno about rights, but there are those that would allege that one's interrectual development can be seriously hampered by particapation here... :lol:

--Larry

gnukid - 9-10-2007 at 02:38 PM

Amir

I was wondering why you object to La Baja. As far as I know that is the correct reference and always has been en espagnol como me gusta la baja. Interestingly I hear El Mar, juego con ella.

Not sure if the article or gender was your issue?

Anyway I hope you'll clarify your point, whether grammatical or philosophical.

DENNIS - 9-10-2007 at 03:04 PM

La Baja / The Baja

It's a purist thing. Some find it a new age abomination of "Baja." Purists wouldn't like "The Idaho" or "The Oregon." I wouldn't either.

oldhippie - 9-10-2007 at 03:30 PM

I just took the 5 to the South LA and then the 10 to the West Hollywood. Coming back I took the 5 to the Baja California. It was a nice drive back, I could see ocean.

Why not just be correct, especially when writing a book?

amir - 9-10-2007 at 04:44 PM

gnukid, and others,

I'm not sure why I had that strong reaction. Maybe it was partly grammatical, and also partly philosophical. But I think, now, that it was mostly intuitive. The way the request for the information was stated, it turned me way OFF. I could dissect the original post word by word and perhaps come up with a rational explanation of why I had problems with it, but why waste more time on this? Apparently, everybody else also had some problem, because besides the anecdote about the proctologist's table, I see no other contribution for this project…

CaboRon - 9-10-2007 at 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS
La Baja / The Baja

It's a purist thing. Some find it a new age abomination of "Baja." Purists wouldn't like "The Idaho" or "The Oregon." I wouldn't either.

Bad comparison.

"The Yukon". "The Mohave". "The Sawtooth". "The Sahara".

Maybe it's just a perceptual detail. "The Baja" is not a state. It is a peninsula and a region.

--Larry

Hate to be a nit picker Larry....however .... 'The

Sahara Desert" is not a state either, but a region ..

Not that I care,

After years of hearing my beloved San Francisco referred to as "Frisco" I have become pretty numb to lazy language.

-CaboRon

DENNIS - 9-10-2007 at 05:53 PM

The Baja / Baja .........

What are they but nicknames. Contractions for convenience. "Baja" is more traditional and has wider use. "The Baja" is relatively new and still widely resisted.
So what. The question becomes, "Which is most or least correct?" Well, neither is either.

DENNIS - 9-10-2007 at 06:36 PM

Come to think of it, all of the above choices seem tolerable when one considers the possibility of a new faction wanting to call Baja California, "The Lower."

toneart - 9-10-2007 at 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by DanO

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Originally posted by lencho

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Originally posted by CaboRon
If I felt that my interrectual rights were in any way compromised by my particapation on this forum,

Dunno about rights, but there are those that would allege that one's interrectual development can be seriously hampered by particapation here... :lol:

--Larry

Interrectual? Somehow I think that goes along with the proctology angle.

Yup! Larry is either employing the Asian pronounciation of the word or else he is taking this string to a very dark place.

Dennis,
Climb up on your etymologist's table. :lol:

Good Golly Miss Molly! :rolleyes:

[Edited on 9-11-2007 by toneart]

Osprey - 9-11-2007 at 06:38 AM

Once I mentioned to the bartender at Los Arcos in La Paz that the Mexican congress was voting to maybe change the name of Baja California Sur to Benito Juarez. The bartender said he didn't like the idea. I said "what's the difference?" He told me he was born in La Paz, liked the state's name just fine like it was. He said "what's your name?" I said "George" He said why don't I just start calling you Larry?"

DENNIS - 9-11-2007 at 07:48 AM

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Originally posted by toneart

Dennis,
Climb up on your etymologist's table. :lol:

Not now, Tony. Too busy to be playing with insects.

Osprey - 9-11-2007 at 08:11 AM

Dennis, probably a typo. Study of insects is antomology

DENNIS - 9-11-2007 at 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by Osprey
Dennis, probably a typo. Study of insects is antomology

Good one. I get that confused with a specific area in the study of ancestry......Auntomology.

toneart - 9-11-2007 at 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by toneart

Dennis,
Climb up on your etymologist's table. :lol:

Not now, Tony. Too busy to be playing with insects.

Not a misspelling....not even buggy.

Look it up. It's a very wordy definition.

[Edited on 9-11-2007 by toneart]

DENNIS - 9-11-2007 at 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by toneart

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by toneart

Dennis,
Climb up on your etymologist's table. :lol:

Not now, Tony. Too busy to be playing with insects.

Not a misspelling....not even buggy.

Look it up. It's a very wordy definition.

[Edited on 9-11-2007 by toneart]

-------- Sigh ----------

comitan - 9-11-2007 at 01:34 PM

Dennis
\
What would you do if you didn't have all of these challenges.(Build your house?)

DENNIS - 9-11-2007 at 02:03 PM

Hi Wiley...........

House is right on schedule but, you know what they say about "All work and no play".............

Sharksbaja - 9-11-2007 at 02:12 PM

"All work and no play"

hey, don't bring me into this :lol:

DENNIS - 9-11-2007 at 02:14 PM

Pobrecito Sharky.........

comitan - 9-11-2007 at 02:18 PM

Dennis

Next trip to Gringolandia is April be ready for visitor showing?

DENNIS - 9-11-2007 at 02:20 PM

OK Wiley........ Mi casa es su casa.
By the way, your refrigerator is out of Pacifico.

comitan - 9-11-2007 at 02:24 PM

Dennis

Its always out of Pacifico I drink that skunky Corona like many Mexicans, never drink out of a bottle that you can't see into.

fdt - 9-11-2007 at 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by Osprey
Once I mentioned to the bartender at Los Arcos in La Paz that the Mexican congress was voting to maybe change the name of Baja California Sur to Benito Juarez. The bartender said he didn't like the idea. I said "what's the difference?" He told me he was born in La Paz, liked the state's name just fine like it was. He said "what's your name?" I said "George" He said why don't I just start calling you Larry?"

This La Baja or the Baja argument here is like beeing inside a Borg Cube, Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated. :rolleyes:

bancoduo - 9-11-2007 at 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by lencho
"The Mohave".

That's Arizona "PALE FACE" speak. Try "MOJAVE" kimo sabe :lol:

Sharksbaja - 9-12-2007 at 12:05 AM

and I'm.... "Sharky" go figger...

BajaBad - 9-20-2007 at 07:46 AM

Viva El Baja? Now that´s tacky... and I´m sure "Amir" will weigh in on that one.

I changed the title - was actually good to be made to re-think it... though left the Viva La Baja - as the whole purpose their is to make it fun and easy to market. I could have called it the Complete Relocation Guide to the Baja California Peninsula... but how boring.

As an FYI - this whole project came about while writing an article for the escapeartist.com (had nothing to do with BajaNomads) - and initially was going to be published on that site, with a subcription base of 350,000 online viewers. Hence 'Baja, Mexico' in earlier title - I was worried if I didn´t put Mexico in... the international audience would think it was about California, USA.

After a little thought from this thread, I have changed it to Viva La Baja! Relocation Guide to the Baja California Peninsula for Families and Retirees. If a reader misunderstands, I guess they learn something.

Will post when is ready to be purchased, and would appreciate feedback from any readers, though I am sure I will live to regret it! :yes:

Molly