BajaNomad - Star Choice and Direct TV illegal? What is legal for residents?

Star Choice and Direct TV illegal? What is legal for residents?

BajaBad - 10-15-2007 at 03:18 PM

For T.V. cable service you can get Direct TV and Star Choice (Canadian) but are both illegal for residents, only 'OK' for those with service who are traveling temporarily?

What is legal for residents who live here? Any info appreciated, BajaBad (but trying to be good)

comitan - 10-15-2007 at 03:22 PM

Just be Bad!

Hook - 10-15-2007 at 03:25 PM

I had posed a similar question in a u2u to one of the TV techies on the board but got no response. I will be anxiously awaiting responses.

Pescador - 10-15-2007 at 03:28 PM

We think that FTA is the only answer to this very complex dilemna.

Legal Schmeagle

MrBillM - 10-15-2007 at 04:35 PM

IF you are subscribing to a service and PAYING for same, how can WHERE you are when you watch that service be morally BAD regardless of legalities ?

Like the man said, FTA is legal and available, but the selection (in English) isn't that impressive. Lots of Spanish and Chinese stations, though. Plenty of OLD reruns. I was watching "Perry Mason" in Black and White the other night.

Roberto - 10-15-2007 at 04:39 PM

If you have a U.S. Address and are billed there, I really doubt DirecTV could care less where the dish is actually installed. I guess in theory the Mexicans could get upset, but what's the downside?

If you want to be 100% legal, I think SKY is the only option? But, being 100% legal in all things in Mexico in all things could be difficult - just finding out what it means could take some significant work. :lol:

Having a DirecTV installation is NOT one of the things I would worry about.

Hook - 10-15-2007 at 04:48 PM

So, there is a clause in the DTV and Star Choice contracts that say you can travel with them but you cant permanently move them to another location?

Roberto - 10-15-2007 at 05:12 PM

No, there is no such clause. The illegality comes from the fact that they are for use in the United States. They are just as illegal in Canada.

On the other side, in Mexico they are illegal because they are not licensed there, but brought in from the U.S.

Or something like that ... I don't claim to know all the details, but I think that's close enough, at least as far as DirecTV goes - know nothing about StarChoice.

[Edited on 10-16-2007 by Roberto]

El Norte - 10-15-2007 at 05:21 PM

:saint:

I am a subscriber to Starchoice in Canada and also use Starchoice in BCS. The Starchoice user info line clearly encourages use in Mexico. Their footprint covers all of Central America and some of South America. This is not by accident. Don't worry, be happy, forget your inhibitions and just use it! The service is far better than Sky. Cesar

gnukid - 10-15-2007 at 09:25 PM

Does anyone use directv for TV and internet, do you like it? About how much do you pay?

losfrailes - 10-15-2007 at 09:47 PM

The very best choice for Baja folks is still gonna be FTA.

Well over 200 channels of VERY good TV. All american channels by Dish Network plus about 100 channels of excellent music.

Starchoice requires a Canadian address for billing. The ain't no billing for FTA. All you need is a dish (big enough) and a receiver and someone who knows how to get it onto the satellite.

DirectTV has become very marginal and the very best internet service is still DirecWay (Hughes) for Baja.

gnukid - 10-15-2007 at 10:05 PM

So if you have the right dish and receiver you can get hughes net subscription?

I suppose I can handle the FTA updating. But how does one come upon a dish and receiver? They are availble new and used?

DENNIS - 10-15-2007 at 10:08 PM

BajaBad.........

You will burn in Hell if you try to cheat this god-like company. All of your chickens will come home to roast. Your eyeballs will pop and leak down your Hawaiian shirt, over your ample belly to pool on the cushion below your brain pouch.
In the mean time, the History Channel is fun, in the mid 200s.

Like Comitan says...Be bad, it feels good.

bajamigo - 10-15-2007 at 10:14 PM

Geez, Dennis, imagine if you didn't like the guy!

gnukid - 10-15-2007 at 10:31 PM

Does this sound right?

Mercury II or CLASSIC NA receiver
31" 36" or 72" dish
do I want a motor for changing satelites
install kit cables

what else

DENNIS - 10-15-2007 at 10:36 PM

I can't imagine.

CaboRon - 10-16-2007 at 06:16 AM

We may be confusing "legal" with the "rules" or terms and conditions of the provider networks.... which are different animals.

Breaking rules and agreements with a provider is a personel moral issue.... not a legal one.

In truth, I know nothing about this, only wanted to point out that breaking an agreement will not necessarily get you arrested, only cut off from your service provider.

In which case you would be a pirate :lol:

Arrrrrrrr,

- CaboRon

Choices

MrBillM - 10-16-2007 at 10:04 AM

Yes, there are FTA Choices on Echostar. However, those choices will depend on the "Moral" concerns you indicated earlier.

I am not aware of any programming for the Mercury II (which I have) for this purpose, although it does have an RS232 port for firmware updates. MOST ads I have seen use the Viewsat line. They have a USB port for downloading the necessary codes from an Internet source.

One thing to be aware of is that the Echostar choices require a "Circular" polarized LNB as opposed to the Linear LNB used with the majority of true FTA channels.

If that's what you want to do, simply use an appropriately-sized DISH antenna either fixed on 119 or movable between 110 and 119. I plugged my Mercury II into the Dish feed and all of the channels were acquired fine using the Dish "Dish" and the Dish LNB. They were all scrambled, of course, but that's what you buy the Viewsat for.

Talk it over with God.

BTW, on one of the Sat Press Release sites, there was a news item where Dish Reps and Royal Canadian Mounted Police raided a vendor in Canada last May who was providing some of that equipment.

In Mexico, you're probably OK. Many are using it.

Bob and Susan - 10-16-2007 at 11:15 AM

well bill... "those guys" never consulted with me

when "THEY" deceided to

"bombard" me with those radio signals from

"outer space" :biggrin:

scrambled or not :no:

Roberto - 10-16-2007 at 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CaboRon
Breaking rules and agreements with a provider is a personel moral issue.... not a legal one.

Really? So breaking a contract (which the agreement is) is not illegal? Good to know. :lol:

gnukid - 10-16-2007 at 11:38 AM

I am gathering that preferred FTA equipment is

Viewsat Ultra receiver $125-200
dish 1.8m order from guadalara
LNB (which? is best)
coaxial cable
signal strength detector
tv dinner

BajaBad - 10-16-2007 at 02:48 PM

Quote from Dennis above (or below... who knows):
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BajaBad.........

You will burn in Hell if you try to cheat this god-like company. All of your chickens will come home to roast. Your eyeballs will pop and leak down your Hawaiian shirt, over your ample belly to pool on the cushion below your brain pouch.
In the mean time, the History Channel is fun, in the mid 200s.

Like Comitan says...Be bad, it feels good.
-------------------------------------------

Is it just me, or is it a bit funny that I am a female, not an ample-bellied male? :yes:

Hook - 10-16-2007 at 02:50 PM

I suppose receiving HDTV is out of the question with FTA?

comitan - 10-16-2007 at 02:50 PM

:bounce:

losfrailes - 10-16-2007 at 02:58 PM

So far there are no reputable HDTV receivers for FTA.

Just can't have everything, gosh durn it!

[Edited on 10-16-2007 by losfrailes]

Hook - 10-16-2007 at 05:43 PM

Well, I'll never know until I ask, Wayne. I do appreciate and respect your info.

I have to wonder what the value of some of this FTA hardware (dish, receiver, LNB) will be when the switchover to HD occurs in 2009. That's getting pretty close.

2009

MrBillM - 10-16-2007 at 05:56 PM

That is the "current" date for switchover to Over-the-air Digital Broadcasts and vacating the Analog spectrum which will then be put up for auction by the Feds. It doesn't affect the Satellite transmissions.

The DIGITAL Broadcasts will NOT necessarily be HD. All of the TV sets produced after January of this year are compatible for Digital reception.

Or, so I understand.

[Edited on 10-17-2007 by MrBillM]

Hook - 10-16-2007 at 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrBillM
That is the "current" date for switchover to Over-the-air Digital Broadcasts and vacating the Analog spectrum which will then be put up for auction by the Feds. It doesn't affect the Satellite transmissions.

The DIGITAL Broadcasts will NOT necessarily be HD. All of the TV sets produced after January of this year are compatible for Digital reception.

Or, so I understand.

[Edited on 10-17-2007 by MrBillM]

So, you think the terrestrial broadcasters will be sending a different signal up to the birds than their terrestrial signals in 2009?

I dont.

I think that most all the major networks and well as the non-premium content providers CNN, ESPN, etc.) will just broadcast the HD signal. They will rely on viewers with a SDTV to get a converter.

comitan - 10-16-2007 at 06:32 PM

Something to explore:

http://www.canamsatellites.com/index.html

losfrailes - 10-16-2007 at 06:56 PM

Hook

No malintent. I wish it were possible today with HDTV! However, as yet nothing that is working as well as they would like. There is some chatter on various websites about the 'almost working' HDTV, but so far nada.

The current state of the art receivers are the Viewsat Ultra due to the ability to update them with a flash memory usb stick. Makes it real nice.

rts551 - 10-16-2007 at 07:05 PM

So Los F. whay system would you recommend

losfrailes - 10-16-2007 at 07:21 PM

rts551

At the present time, a 1.8 meter dish with Viewsat Ultra receiver.

Roberto - 10-16-2007 at 08:28 PM

Hook, what Bill is saying is that the switchover is to digital broadcasting, not HD. As far as I know, he's correct. I would bet that a lot of the smaller channels will broadcast digital signals in standard def for quite a while.

Bajabus - 10-16-2007 at 08:52 PM

If there is any thing about the whole issue that may be illegal it's that you are not paying IVA on a service being delivered and used in Mexico.

I would think that is the the "most" illegal thing about it.

Are they going to come after you for it? I sincerely doubt it.

Dave - 10-16-2007 at 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bajabus
Are they going to come after you for it? I sincerely doubt it.

That's because Mexico has but 1.4 million sat subscribers. Even if you add in cable it's barely over 5 million. The revenuers have bigger fish to fry.

gnukid - 10-16-2007 at 09:34 PM

I hear CNX Mini, duo, or trio is excellent with USB too wondering if any have tried it.

Also many report there is a rash of Viewsat Ultra Clones that have failed quickly so be sure to buy from a dealer and not ebay etc... http://www.ftatalk.com/

Which satelites are you guys getting? How many dishes?

Digital Broadcasting

MrBillM - 10-17-2007 at 09:56 AM

I think that your comment/question indicates a misunderstanding of the upcoming changeover from direct Over-the-Air Analog Broadcasting to Over-the-Air Digital Broadcasting. The legislation ONLY covers the broadcasts now picked up via antenna and the inclusion of Digital-capable tuners in all TVs marketed after May 07 unless the vendor specifically notes that they are not digital-compatible (old stock). For those who still have TVs with analog-only tuners at the time, the Feds will supply them with (2) $40 value vouchers per household for the purchase of digital converter boxes to allow them to continue use of the older TVs.

There is NOTHING in the mandate concerning HDTV. Considering the fact that demand for HDTV is still lukewarm, I personally believe that the majority of the Digital Over-the-Air broadcasts will NOT be HDTV until sometime much farther in the future due to the increased bandwidth necessary for HD broadcasting. Even among those now broadcasting in HD, the majority are still broadcasting in 1080I or less due to bandwidth constraints. DirecTv IS advertising 1080P.

NONE of this has anything to do with Satellite Uplink or Downlink broadcasting. That is already in Digital MPEG-2 format.

More Info is available at: http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/digitaltv.html

BTW, when I mentioned the "moral" considerations previously, I wasn't making a personal judgement of same. Merely indicating the status. Personally, I may decide tomorrow or at some time in the future to buy a Viewsat for the same use. I have no opinion on what decisions others make in this respect.

[Edited on 10-17-2007 by MrBillM]

Bajajorge - 10-17-2007 at 10:20 AM

Directv is licensed by the FCC for transmission in the US. Ain't my fault if their beam hangs over into Mexico and we get to watch whatever channels we pay for in the US(except spot beamed local channels). HDTV will probably screw up everything in the US, Canada and Mexico until the communications gurus can get it all figured out without us all having to go out and buy a boat load of new equipment.
A quick afterthought: Pirating in Mexico isn't illegal.

Hook - 10-17-2007 at 10:54 AM

You're certainly correct about the mandate only being for digital delivery by Feb of 2009, Bill. I was unaware of that.

But from a practical standpoint, will these content providers really continue to broadcast their SDTV signal (in digital in 2009) if the majority of them are also broadcasting in HDTV digital? Would they really continue to allow the sat services to supply their viewers with an SDTV signal with all the other competitiors already on the HDTV bandwagon? It doesnt seem practical to me. Direct TV is now touting over 70 HD channels and 100 by the end of the year.

I'm sure some esotheric sat channel will still be providing you with your Perry Mason reruns in SD, though. So, maybe we are just different types of viewers.

But I think that HDTV purchases are anything BUT lukewarm. It is a stampede, at this point.

gnukid - 10-17-2007 at 11:20 AM

It will be fine regardless. Broadcasters will send a digital signal only, in the near future. TVs will be digital or you will use a low cost digital signal to analog tv converter box, presumably. The signal will be oftenbe HD which could mean anything over previous analog resolutions of 400 lines up to 1080 but could be something between. Your tuner will take the signal and send something to your screen that takes best advantage of the signal and screen combo. It is all quite flexible.

I made a committment to HD a long time ago. I have HD tuners and HD cameras and HD sat and HD DVDs and I carry these things through mex and they work on all old school TVs plus new ones too. Almost all devices have built in converters and many options to get the best of what you got. Just keep in mind, its extremely rare to have full 1080p HD signal and have a TV monitor that is 1080p which is fully 4-5 times more pixels (stuff) than old school TV.

Interestingly, now local US broadcasters are sending an analog HD uncompressed signal available by rabbit ear antena. That's the highest available quality only through analog rabbit ear antena. Try it, you will be blown away.

And for those waiting, you might not like it. Its gross to see so much detail of people so clearly and a little distracting from relaxing with a beer when the detail is making you brain explode.

Anyway, I don't watch much TV. I take hi rez pictures and shoot video in HD and bring it home and to parties and then we watch videos of the sea and our adventures on HD. There are few things as beautiful on HD than the Sea of Cortez.

Anyway, here are very recent review of HD TVs

http://reviews.cnet.com/Televisions/2001-6475_7-0.html
http://www.consumersearch.com/www/electronics/hdtv/
http://www.pcmag.com/products/0,,qn=All+HDTVs,00.asp

Hook - 10-17-2007 at 11:42 AM

Gnukid, this discussion isnt so much about what the terrestrial broadcasters are doing as it is about what will be uploaded to the sats and what receivers will be able to download the HD signals.

I am a confirmed HD convert, too. I bought a Sony 34XBR960 (CRT) approaching 3 years ago because of all the problems with DLPs and plasmas and their pricing. LCDs weren't really an option then. Plus, I dont need 50 inches at the distance I view. I trust tube technology to last me for many years and it still is a superior picture in many aspects.

But I dont want to spend several hundred more on sat technology that may become obsolete in less than two years.

I'm leaning towards going Direct TV and upgrading the dish size when I move to Mexico.

Viewing into the Crystal Ball.

MrBillM - 10-17-2007 at 11:43 AM

Having been involved in Electronics and Communications related technologies the majority of my adult working life, I have found that The history of that industry has shown us that This is the sort of esoteric debate wherin either of us could be proven correct. Looking more than a year into that future is all guesswork.

Various Tech magazines that I have subscribed to feature articles from time to time looking back on their own predictions and noting which proved accurate and which proved wildly wrong. The latest issue of PC Magazine has one such article looking back to their predictions in the year 2000.

The continued acceleration in the sales of Digital Television will be determined to a great extent by the continued drop in price in LCD technology, which is emerging as the most popular (in terms of sales) NEW TV/Monitor technology. Given that a 13" LCD Television is still in the $200 range while the same digital-tuner TV in CRT is $50 or less, there is still a long ways to go. Those who are fixated on new technology (myself sometimes included) often assume that the market is driven by others with similar enthusiasm. However, the MAJORITY of current purchasers are still buying the cheaper CRT technology.

Hook - 10-17-2007 at 12:53 PM

The most recent articles I could find on HDTV sales were from mid-2006. At that time, HDTV sales were accounting for 41% of all sales. In 2005, it was 25% of all sales.

I think it a pretty easy extrapolation to assume that HDTV sales are now over the 50% mark, over a year after this article was written.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,126759-c,hdtv/article.html

Another survey I found said that 47% of all households in the US were planning on buying an HDTV in 2007. That's pretty significant. If you figure that there are significant percentages of people in the 53% that arent planning to buy who have:

1-already purchased an HDTV or
2-have no plans on buying ANY TV in 2007

then I think that your assumptions on lukewarm HDTV penetration based on costs of the units is just not supported by the available info.

Quien Sabe ?

MrBillM - 10-17-2007 at 05:52 PM

I don't have any current stats so, for now at least, I'll defer to yours. It doesn't really matter to me other than as a bystander in the Tech race. While I can't say that I'll never buy an HD, I don't see any reason to since I'm satisfied with my current crop of Tvs (seven in the U.S. and and five in Baja) running from a couple of 12" B/W in the garages to the largest at 25". I did have a 27", but it died and the 25" was a great deal at Walmart. $149.00. The picture is better than anything I care about.

You have piqued my curiosity, though. In the next few days, I'll dig through my techie magazines looking for the last article I read on HD and Digital.

Interestingly, I did happen across a NY Times article from Dec 06 which indicated that interest in HD was declining rather than increasing:

"According to a recent survey by Frank N. Magid Associates, the number of people buying [HD] sets who are looking forward to watching television shows in hi-def format has actually declined, to 47 percent from 63 percent two years ago. And while nearly half of current owners of HDTV sets said that their main reason for buying one was to watch programs in HD, only 25 percent of those now shopping for the sets feel that way."

That is odd.

bajalou - 10-17-2007 at 06:08 PM

Article from USA Today - about the HDTV sales -

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/2006-10-24-hdtv_x.htm

VIDEO RICH PROGRAMMING
Although HDTV sales are growing smartly, well-to-do consumers dominate the market.
Annual household income Have an HDTV
Under $30,000 6%
$30,000-$50,000 8%
$50,001-$75,000 17%
$75,001-$100,000 25%
Over $100,000 38%
Source: Leichtman Research Group

Looks like us peons have a way to go in the HDTV race--

HDTV Broadcasting

MrBillM - 10-18-2007 at 06:12 PM

Still looking for numbers, but I did run across an article which addressed the question of compatibility with HD broadcasting. I had understood that this was the case, but had no ready references:

"The resolution of viewers' sets does not affect the logistics of the transition to digital TV since all sets with ATSC-compliant tuners will be able to receive and decode all resolutions, even though they may not be able to display the signal at full resolution."

SO, regardless of what TV you own, should a program be broadcast ONLY in HD, that TV will be able to decode and display the program.

[Edited on 10-19-2007 by MrBillM]

Roberto - 10-18-2007 at 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bajalou
Article from USA Today - about the HDTV sales -

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/2006-10-24-hdtv_x.htm

VIDEO RICH PROGRAMMING
Although HDTV sales are growing smartly, well-to-do consumers dominate the market.
Annual household income Have an HDTV
Under $30,000 6%
$30,000-$50,000 8%
$50,001-$75,000 17%
$75,001-$100,000 25%
Over $100,000 38%
Source: Leichtman Research Group

Looks like us peons have a way to go in the HDTV race--

What I find astounding is that 6% of folks making less that 30,000/year have HDTVs. Presumably, that's gross. Either way, considering that an HDTV setup (pretty much requires cable or Satellite in most places) will be between 2K and 3K in the first year. That's up to 10% of income.

I'm in the wrong business.

Hook - 10-19-2007 at 11:41 AM

You're not in the wrong business.........just the wrong class.

It's part of the whole "rich get richer, the poor get welfare and the middle class gets screwed" scenario.

It's easy to buy an HDTV when your getting food stamps, AFDC, unemployment, free healthcare, etc.

Heck, it might be your only form of entertainment until Hollywood pushes for subsidized theatre tix during the upcoming Clinton administration. :lol:

Roberto - 10-19-2007 at 12:29 PM

I meant I should be selling entertainment equipment like HDTVs. I am an "early adopter" of HDTV (like I am of most technology-based gadgets), and the available programming has exploded during the course of the year. DirecTV has launched two new satellites, specifically for increased HD bandwidth, and will have 100+ HD channels by the end of the year.

Hook - 10-19-2007 at 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roberto
I meant I should be selling entertainment equipment like HDTVs. I am an "early adopter" of HDTV (like I am of most technology-based gadgets), and the available programming has exploded during the course of the year. DirecTV has launched two new satellites, specifically for increased HD bandwidth, and will have 100+ HD channels by the end of the year.

Bout damn time. I'm tired of looking at SD programming on an HD set. Of course Cox will probably have only about 30 by the end of the year, even though it's finally become a landslide of HD by the major content distributors.

Once all these channels are available, HD sales will REALLY take off. The lack of content has also limited sales.

Note to Bill: Are there really standard def TVs with an ATSC tuner? I cant imagine why anyone would buy one. I wonder if it is taking a 4:3 cookie-cutter to the middle of the HD picture or whether there is some strange distortion going on?

TV Tutorial 101

MrBillM - 10-21-2007 at 10:41 AM

ANY ?

How about ALL ! Every TV now being produced has an ATSC Digital tuner. PERIOD. They Will ALL decode the signal whether it be SD or HD. Read on:

"An ATSC digital tuner is required to receive and decode over-the-air digital television signals. The digital spectrum is comprised of 18 frequencies. High definition is part of the digital spectrum.

In the United States, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is regulating the conversion from analog to digital. As a measure, the FCC is setting deadlines making it mandatory that all manufacturers include digital tuners in their televisions. Here are the dates:

* July 1, 2005: All TVs with screen sizes over 36" must include built-in ATSC tuner
* July 1, 2006: 100 of 25-35" TVs must include ATSC DTV tuner (right now only 50 required)
* July 1, 2007: 100 of 13-24" TVs must include ATSC DTV tuner
* July 1, 2007: 100 of all interface devices must have ATSC DTV tuner (VCR, DVD player/recorder, DVR)"

A more detailed explanation of the technology can be found at:

http://www.filmbug.com/dictionary/hdtv.php

In addition, when discussing HDTV penetration into the total market, there is the following from earlier this year:

"New York (NY) - The latest prediction from the Consumer Electronics Association is that 16 million HDTVs will be sold this year, increasing the total number of sets to over 50 million.

According to CEA, 36.5 million high definition TVs are already in US homes, accounting for about 30% of nationwide households. The trade group expects that number to rise to 52.5 million, or 36%, by 2008.

CEA has reported in previous surveys that the majority of HDTV owners are pleased with their set, but many of them are still confused about the differences between actual HD content and content that's upconverted from a standard definition source.

The newest CEA report also showed that 66% of people who receive over-the-air HD content get it through a cable operator, 27% via satellite, and 8% from an HD antenna.

CEA also found that 30% of HDTV owners own more than one HDTV, and around 5% receive HD content from both cable and satellite."

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Speaking of (non-Dish) FTA, I have mostly finished aligning and searching my setup and, except for missing some channels (mostly PBS on AMC3), I've found that there are numerous Fox Affilitates, lots of OLD rerun networks, some news (ABC), but the rest is mostly JJCC ( Jesus, Jihadi and ChiCom). I can't believe how many Arab, Persian and Chinese channels there are broadcasting to North America. It makes one wonder.

Paladin - 10-21-2007 at 08:44 PM

Speaking of morals vs the law, what systems have the best access to porn???

Dave - 10-21-2007 at 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paladin
Speaking of morals vs the law, what systems have the best access to porn???

The "system" you're using to read this.

Portable Sat TV

bajaguy - 10-22-2007 at 06:50 PM

Interesting link for portable sat TV

http://store.freedomgrill.com/prostores/servlet/-strse-49/%2...

rts551 - 10-22-2007 at 07:17 PM

GUY

$850 and still only good in US and Canada. according to its advertising

bajaguy - 10-22-2007 at 07:25 PM

would probably work in Baja depending on your Baja location (like Ensenada). I'm waiting for Nomad expert opinions

rts551 - 10-22-2007 at 07:28 PM

true... just like a regular 18" dish... I was hoping it would say great for BCS

Bajabus - 10-22-2007 at 07:39 PM

$850.....that seems like a hell of a lot of money for a little dish that would not work very far down the peninsula.

Is DirecTV OK?

Woooosh - 10-25-2007 at 08:25 PM

DirecTV has a portable laptop-sized unit called Sat-Go that has the reciever, antennae and it's own TV built in. They are marketing it for tailgaters and campers. I don't think they care where the unit is located these days- so long as you pay big for the programming. All the new HD channels are kicking in (finally) with about 150 slated. I watch The Discovery and National Geographic channels in HD like a cat watches a caged bird. lol Just be bad.

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?asset...

[Edited on 10-26-2007 by Woooosh]

DirecTV to go

MrBillM - 10-26-2007 at 01:41 PM

Some friends of mine living in San Diego Bay mentioned this. I haven't called to find out if they bought, but it seems that the Antenna size would be a limiting factor if you're traveling in Baja. After all, the standard 18" Dish begins to be marginal south of Gonzaga Bay.