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BajaBad
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Star Choice and Direct TV illegal? What is legal for residents?
For T.V. cable service you can get Direct TV and Star Choice (Canadian) but are both illegal for residents, only 'OK' for those with service who are
traveling temporarily?
What is legal for residents who live here? Any info appreciated, BajaBad (but trying to be good)
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comitan
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Just be Bad!
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Hook
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I had posed a similar question in a u2u to one of the TV techies on the board but got no response. I will be anxiously awaiting responses.
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Pescador
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We think that FTA is the only answer to this very complex dilemna.
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MrBillM
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Legal Schmeagle
IF you are subscribing to a service and PAYING for same, how can WHERE you are when you watch that service be morally BAD regardless
of legalities ?
Like the man said, FTA is legal and available, but the selection (in English) isn't that impressive. Lots of Spanish and Chinese stations, though.
Plenty of OLD reruns. I was watching "Perry Mason" in Black and White the other night.
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Roberto
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If you have a U.S. Address and are billed there, I really doubt DirecTV could care less where the dish is actually installed. I guess in theory the
Mexicans could get upset, but what's the downside?
If you want to be 100% legal, I think SKY is the only option? But, being 100% legal in all things in Mexico in all things could be difficult - just
finding out what it means could take some significant work. 
Having a DirecTV installation is NOT one of the things I would worry about.
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Hook
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So, there is a clause in the DTV and Star Choice contracts that say you can travel with them but you cant permanently move them to another location?
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Roberto
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No, there is no such clause. The illegality comes from the fact that they are for use in the United States. They are just as illegal in Canada.
On the other side, in Mexico they are illegal because they are not licensed there, but brought in from the U.S.
Or something like that ... I don't claim to know all the details, but I think that's close enough, at least as far as DirecTV goes - know nothing
about StarChoice.
[Edited on 10-16-2007 by Roberto]
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El Norte
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I am a subscriber to Starchoice in Canada and also use Starchoice in BCS. The Starchoice user info line clearly encourages use in Mexico. Their
footprint covers all of Central America and some of South America. This is not by accident. Don't worry, be happy, forget your inhibitions and just
use it! The service is far better than Sky. Cesar
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gnukid
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Does anyone use directv for TV and internet, do you like it? About how much do you pay?
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losfrailes
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The very best choice for Baja folks is still gonna be FTA.
Well over 200 channels of VERY good TV. All american channels by Dish Network plus about 100 channels of excellent music.
Starchoice requires a Canadian address for billing. The ain't no billing for FTA. All you need is a dish (big enough) and a receiver and someone who
knows how to get it onto the satellite.
DirectTV has become very marginal and the very best internet service is still DirecWay (Hughes) for Baja.
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gnukid
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So if you have the right dish and receiver you can get hughes net subscription?
I suppose I can handle the FTA updating. But how does one come upon a dish and receiver? They are availble new and used?
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DENNIS
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BajaBad.........
You will burn in Hell if you try to cheat this god-like company. All of your chickens will come home to roast. Your eyeballs will pop and leak down
your Hawaiian shirt, over your ample belly to pool on the cushion below your brain pouch.
In the mean time, the History Channel is fun, in the mid 200s.
Like Comitan says...Be bad, it feels good.
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bajamigo
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Geez, Dennis, imagine if you didn't like the guy!
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gnukid
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Does this sound right?
Mercury II or CLASSIC NA receiver
31" 36" or 72" dish
do I want a motor for changing satelites
install kit cables
what else
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DENNIS
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I can't imagine.
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CaboRon
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We may be confusing "legal" with the "rules" or terms and conditions of the provider networks.... which are different animals.
Breaking rules and agreements with a provider is a personel moral issue.... not a legal one.
In truth, I know nothing about this, only wanted to point out that breaking an agreement will not necessarily get you arrested, only cut off from
your service provider.
In which case you would be a pirate
Arrrrrrrr,
- CaboRon
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MrBillM
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Choices
Yes, there are FTA Choices on Echostar. However, those choices will depend on the "Moral" concerns you indicated earlier.
I am not aware of any programming for the Mercury II (which I have) for this purpose, although it does have an RS232 port for firmware updates. MOST
ads I have seen use the Viewsat line. They have a USB port for downloading the necessary codes from an Internet source.
One thing to be aware of is that the Echostar choices require a "Circular" polarized LNB as opposed to the Linear LNB used with the majority of true
FTA channels.
If that's what you want to do, simply use an appropriately-sized DISH antenna either fixed on 119 or movable between 110 and 119. I plugged my
Mercury II into the Dish feed and all of the channels were acquired fine using the Dish "Dish" and the Dish LNB. They were all scrambled, of course,
but that's what you buy the Viewsat for.
Talk it over with God.
BTW, on one of the Sat Press Release sites, there was a news item where Dish Reps and Royal Canadian Mounted Police raided a vendor in Canada last May
who was providing some of that equipment.
In Mexico, you're probably OK. Many are using it.
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Bob and Susan
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well bill... "those guys" never consulted with me
when "THEY" deceided to
"bombard" me with those radio signals from
"outer space"
scrambled or not
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
Breaking rules and agreements with a provider is a personel moral issue.... not a legal one.
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Really? So breaking a contract (which the agreement is) is not illegal? Good to know.
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