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Prodigy clampdown?

bajalou - 12-23-2007 at 03:34 PM

Not happening in San Felipe

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tehag - 12-23-2007 at 04:44 PM

Not here in Loreto as of 5 minutes ago.

bajalou - 12-23-2007 at 04:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by lencho
Interesting; as far as I can tell, they're doing the filtering in Guadalajara; I haven't a clue how much Internet infrastructure and policies are shared between Telnor and Telmex.

--Larry


Over the last few months they moved all of our accounts from the Telnor server to a Prodigy one, but I still get some Emails with the telnor address.

Don Alley - 12-23-2007 at 05:27 PM

We are using Yahoo and mac.com over our Telmex/Prodigy connection, with generally no problems.

We have had two emails sent to Hotmail.com (Microsoft) adresses returned in the last few weeks:

"Remote host said: 550 SC-001 Mail rejected by Windows Live Hotmail for policy reasons. Reasons for rejection may be related to content with spam-like characteristics or IP/domain reputation problems"

IP reputation problems? Bill Gates vs. Carlos Slim.:lol:

stanburn - 12-23-2007 at 07:44 PM

We use Earthlink over our TelMex connection and don't have any problems in Santiago, Colima

Roberto - 12-23-2007 at 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by lencho
Hi, y'all--

Any of you use third-party email providers over Infinitum? From La Paz it appears that Telmex has just started blocking connections from their clients to outgoing mail servers that are not their own; ie you have to depend on Prodigy email servers to deliver your email from programs such as Outlook and Eudora.

Anybody else noticed this? :(

--Larry


Why would they do this? Do they charge for email transmission?

Don Alley - 12-23-2007 at 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by lencho
Quote:
Originally posted by tehag
Not here in Loreto as of 5 minutes ago.

Fascinating. You mean you're sucessfully using an outgoing mail server that is NOT one of Prodigy's?

--Larry


Ours still works. We use Apple's Mail program, and can use either one of two outgoing mail servers, yahoo's or mac.com's. We have no settings for Prodigy; in fact we use the same mail settings whether in Loreto or Montana.

TELMEX TECH SUPPORT NO HELP

bajajazz - 12-23-2007 at 09:59 PM

For weeks now I've been unable to use 'reply' or 'forward' features on Prodigy's email server. I can send email and receive it on Prodigy, and that's all. I called Tech Support in DF and they say problem is not my settings and is nothing they can do anything about, as probem is internal to Prodigy Infinitum and is just one of a number of problems Prodigy is having around the country. They led me to believe that the server was being worked on and the problem would be corrected soon. Hasn't happened. My Norton auto-protect and email scanner functions died about the same time, perhaps coincidence or related, I don't know.

gnukid - 12-23-2007 at 10:21 PM

They (ISPs) ban the most offensive spamming mail fowarding servers... yahoo, sbcglobal etc... if you have a small private mail smtp domain name like smtp.joey.net you can use it if its not on their banned list otherwise you should use the smtp defined in your isp's setup e.g. if you use prodigy it might be smtp.prodigy.net

gnukid - 12-24-2007 at 07:12 AM

... to reduce spam, basically no mail should be forwarded by prodigy networks to other send mail servers. Meaning you shouldn't be using the ISP and using other outside send mail servers. Its the same across all large isps to reduce the number of piggyback spammers. just choose the internal ISP's default send mail server e.g. smtp.prodigy.net while on prodigy.net or choose an alternative unique smtp server, somthing that would be unlikely to be banned.

You can go to your accounts section in your mail application and copy the settings from your existing account and add other send mail servers, as you move from hotspot to hotspot and change internet service provider, if you have trouble try one of your other account setups to get the mail out.

Acuity - 12-24-2007 at 07:45 AM

This year in TS I am using my Canadian e-mail servers over Infinitum - didn't work last year due to blocking at the Canadian end (for spam control)!

Email relay service

twogringos - 12-24-2007 at 08:50 AM

Prodigy blocks the usual email port (port 25) to SMTP servers other than their own. If your outgoing email server uses a port other than 25, try changing to that one. Otherwise, search "email relay service" and you can find an inexpensive ($10-20/yr) relay service that solves this problem.

Oops, this was to be in response to "Prodigy clampsdown"

[Edited on 12-24-2007 by twogringos]

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tehag - 12-24-2007 at 08:56 AM

Prodigy Infinitum server, Firefox browser, COX webmail with COX.NET return address setting. No problems this morning. I have been rejected by receivers a couple of times due to their server's screening for phantom eMail servers. The only problems I've had with Prodigy is their slowing of speed to thwart VOIP. They haven't done that lately.

prodigy

tehag - 12-24-2007 at 09:13 AM

Noticed a slowdown a few minutes ago, tested with MySpeed.com, got 38kpbs. Wow! I pay for 256kpbs. I think our good friend is making a naked grab for Holiday long distance bucks. How unlike that generous and fair-minded richest man in the world. Watch your wallet!! Hurry up CableTec!!

CaboRon - 12-24-2007 at 09:38 AM

It just took me six min to log on to bajanomad.

I canīt get to my e-mail server at all.

CaboRon

Don Alley - 12-24-2007 at 09:59 AM

I just tested withdslreports.com...

860 kbps

That's about double our normal download speed. Interesting.

Cervisin - 12-24-2007 at 10:06 AM

Was very slow for 45 minutes now back to normal. No problems to connect to my servers and send mail.
Is that anything official communicated to you or just hear Larry??

CaboRon - 12-24-2007 at 10:08 AM

Speed came up to normal a few min ago.

CaboRon

Cervisin - 12-24-2007 at 10:37 AM

Larry, you correct, I been installing now CP's on servers in Europe so not use all accounts smtp P25 - just checked. Blocked......
oh well, let's do 587 then.... :o

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tehag - 12-24-2007 at 11:23 AM

Speed up to very fast 868kpbs download, but only 79.1 upload. Weird. Merry Christmas to you too, Carlos.

bajajudy - 12-24-2007 at 12:44 PM

Don I came up with 805...also faster than normal

I am having no problems with Yahoo mail.

Cervisin - 12-24-2007 at 01:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by lencho
Quote:
Originally posted by Cervisin
Larry, you correct, I been installing now CP's on servers in Europe so not use all accounts smtp P25 - just checked. Blocked......
oh well, let's do 587 then.... :o
I wouldn't say that too loud... "they" might eventually figure it out and shut that door too. :)

Is that alternative commonly available in Europe? I'm using a non-standard port on my own ISP, but had never heard of 587 before you brought it up.

--Larry


I have my own rootservers: SUSE10.2/Apache2.02/postfix Larry so i can configure the ports, 587 is a common option if 25 is blocked and think that is not just a european thing and if they block that there are more options... :lol:
It's a stupid cat and mouse game, yep, they will block 587 evtl. also as some ISP's do allready, making it for users harder but the real bad guy's still keep spamming....

I dont know your server config / options and also not if possible with sendmail, maybe the link helps you some.

http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-4788.ht...

Alternative option for everybody:

Cervisin - 12-24-2007 at 01:18 PM

In general a alternative option would be Google Apps, it's free and you can use your domain name if you wish, they run on different ports and work here now also if you like to use a client as Outlook, Thunderbird etc.......

https://www.google.com/a/org/?hl=en

Don Alley - 12-28-2007 at 10:08 AM

This morning, our out-going email servers would not work (mac.com and yahoo) when set to use port 25.

Port 587 still works.

So maybe somebody's fooling around at prodigy/telmex.

Prodigy

tehag - 12-28-2007 at 10:54 AM

Just now: 846 down/108 up. eMail through COX working fine.

aspi - 12-30-2007 at 05:14 PM

Hi All,
I've just spent all day trying to resolve the problem of sending mail from my web domain via Outlook Express going thru Telmex/Infinitum. Yesterday, I stopped being able to send. Received mail fine, but no sending exept on my Prodigy address. After much investigation, found that Telmex is indeed now blocking Port 25. (you can check yours at: http://www.canyouseeme.org/) They've done this before and I'm sick of it. Yes, I know it's a spam reduction tool, but it's also extemely inconvenient. (Prodigy IP addresses in general have a bad rep and are often blacklisted because they are used for so much spam)

Anyway, I just got finished changing over to an email relay service which bypasses Telmex and sends thru other ports. (https://www.dyndns.com/ - reliable, secure, does virus scanning, 150 relays a day for $15 a year). It's great to know Telmex can't mess with me anymore (at least on this one little thing.) Give it a try. There's a 30 day money back guarantee.

chris

bajalou - 12-30-2007 at 05:31 PM

They don't effect Gmail at all. It works great - not using port 25.

shari - 12-31-2007 at 09:10 AM

People are having touble sending email from this county but Gmail works great...whew.

elchinero - 6-30-2008 at 09:13 AM

A Cormac McCarthy quote!

I was in some airport and NEEDED a book. I picked "The Road"! WTF? Ultra-harsh. I was blind-sided on that, having never heard of him! A MOVIE?! Gotta be a family film, NOT!
So I have subsequently read:
"No Country ... " ... read that twice, back to back.
"Blood Meridian" .. way too (?) intense. Scary-scary.
"Border Trilogy" (from which "All The ... Horses ... " saddles up.) I sent a copy to "Nomad Rob Kinson!"
"Outer Dark" ... unsettling, at best.
Halfway through "Suttree"

Phwew.

TT in Berlin, Germany