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Buildings collapse in La Paz

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 09:34 AM

Listening to the BCS news they were reporting about a building or buildings collapsing in La Paz, can someone confirm this that lives there? morgaine ?
the reporter was talking about witnesses seing huge clowds of dust as if it had been an implosion. :?:

I'll stay tuned and report

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 09:37 AM

I don't see any earthquakes reported

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 09:48 AM

Ok, reporters are saying that two 5 story buildings collapsed at El Mogote

BigWooo - 12-28-2007 at 09:49 AM

Heard the same but my friend didn't know the name of the place

bajajudy - 12-28-2007 at 09:50 AM

WOW
the new ones? there were no other buildings there, were there?

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 09:50 AM

I've been making calls to a friend of mine that works at Paraiso del Mar and they are not answering, this is not good.

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by bajajudy
WOW
the new ones? there were no other buildings there, were there?

I guess the new ones, what have you heard?
The reporters really don't know much, said they were sending someone to Mogote but yes a huge clowd of dust can still be visible from the malecon.

[Edited on 12-28-2007 by fdt]

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 09:56 AM

Oh my gosh, this can't be good. I wonder how many people were working on those buildings when they fell. I knew that building on that sand was not a good idea.

[Edited on 12-28-2007 by fdt]

BigWooo - 12-28-2007 at 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by morgaine7
I hope your friend and everybody else is OK, but don't forget that some people are off for the holidays.
Kate

They're fine, I don't know much about La Paz but they said something about it being on an island or peninsula?

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 10:01 AM

Yes, it is kind of a peninsula. I just talked on the phone with a friend that lives close to the Malecon and he sais that the buildings just all of the sudden fell and that there is a lot of traffic on the malecon full of people looking at this catastrophe

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by Pompano
Four of us were just in and around those buildings yesterday...whew. Sure hope nobody there today is hurt or worse.

If it's the new buildings, in a way it's better now than when the were full of people living there.

David K - 12-28-2007 at 10:11 AM

They say 'Nature bats last'! :yes:

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 10:14 AM

I could care less about the buildings David but I am worried about the people. Have you been there lately?

CaboRon - 12-28-2007 at 10:17 AM

There have been rumors of these buildings sinking for several months now....... they are building highrises on a sandbar ....... was there any serious engineering done before construction started ?

CaboRon

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 10:20 AM

CaboRon, can you see anything from were you are or have you asked arround about these buildings collapsing? Locals usualy know.

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 10:22 AM

The radio news show is over, they said they would report soon, anyone else know something, morgaine have you heard anything? BigWooo, what have your friends said?

CaboRon - 12-28-2007 at 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by fdt
CaboRon, can you see anything from were you are or have you asked arround about these buildings collapsing? Locals usualy know.

I cannot see from my apt. but will walk down to the Malacon this afternoon with my camera and show you what I can see.

CaboRon

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 10:39 AM

Any new reports on this terrible accident?

bajajudy - 12-28-2007 at 10:43 AM

I was looking, searching(never had any luck with that) for the recent pix of those buildings that someone had posted.
Maybe someone with better searching skills can find them

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 10:49 AM

Are you saying dozens of workers did'nt show up? I sure hope they had the day off if not, how sad.

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 11:00 AM

Just talked with my compadre and says that one of the buildings was going to be a Fiesta Inn.

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 11:12 AM

And they were just in the news, really bad.
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n538320.htm

Jack Swords - 12-28-2007 at 11:15 AM

Day of the Innocents?

Bob H - 12-28-2007 at 11:15 AM

Ferna, can you translate the article for us who cannot read spanish? Doesn't look like very good news - sad!
Bob H

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by Jack Swords
Day of the Innocents?

Are you asking?

Jack Swords - 12-28-2007 at 11:20 AM

no

elgatoloco - 12-28-2007 at 11:23 AM

They had a highway bridge under construction collapse down there last month?

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tehag - 12-28-2007 at 11:23 AM

That's an article about tourism development and has nothing to do with any falling down. Perhaps these are the buildings that may have fallen, but the press piece doesn't address that.

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by elgatoloco
They had a highway bridge under construction collapse down there last month?

Yes the bridge at the Vado de la 8 de Octubre.

vandenberg - 12-28-2007 at 11:36 AM

Pacenos probably "wished " them down.
And, most likely, not many workers there because of the holidays.
Hardly anybody working here at Loreto Bay.
Anyway, let's hope so.

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 11:37 AM

Maybe Loreto bay will be collapsing also.

Russ - 12-28-2007 at 11:47 AM

Just spoke with Carlos at el Moro and he hadn't heard anything about it. But then he's working.

danaeb - 12-28-2007 at 11:50 AM

These are the latest construction photos of the project (12/1/07). I could never understand how they could build anything on sand dunes, but 5-story buildings - YIKES!

http://paradiseofthesea.com/en/news.html

[Edited on 12-28-2007 by danaeb]

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 11:51 AM

What about the workers?

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 11:54 AM

Is anyone in La Paz going to El Mogote and tell us what happened? :?:

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 12:22 PM

Maybe El Chino had something to do with it

vandenberg - 12-28-2007 at 12:24 PM

Gnukid,

The facts man, please, the facts :?:

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 12:25 PM

Fact is, someone needs to drive out there and report back. Buildings don't just fall everyday you know.

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 12:27 PM

moragine, you have to borrow your workers car or have him drive you to El Mogote.

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by gnukid
The buildings fell over in the gusty wind.

So they did'nt collapse, they fell to the side?

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by gnukid

Well, honestly we have many other things to worry about. This was just a small incident which was destined.

Time to go the beach and enjoy the life and friends we have.

What about the poor workers?

Don't tell me you don't like the sculpures on the Malecon either.

[Edited on 12-28-2007 by fdt]

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tehag - 12-28-2007 at 01:03 PM

Gnukid:

Are you in La Paz? Do you have access to some actual news regarding a building failure? If so, please share.

vandenberg - 12-28-2007 at 01:08 PM

Yeah Gnu,
Quit rambling and supply some facts. :?:

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 01:09 PM

Yeah, how can you go enjoy life at a time like this?

gnukid - 12-28-2007 at 01:15 PM

You're right I have no new information, I apologize for my glee in pondering the fate of Magote. I know nothing except my opinion about the state of Magote.

I am trying everything to find out more but there is no information, we can't see much, now. Its windy. We are trying. In the course of hours we will know more.

But, yes we are really happy. If you lived here you would be too.

Russ - 12-28-2007 at 01:17 PM

2 google pics of the area

Magote-Sat view 1.jpg - 48kB

Russ - 12-28-2007 at 01:22 PM

#2 It's been 3 years since I was out there and there were only a few small vacation type cabins then. I haven't a clue where the big stuff was put but it shocked me last time in La Paz at night you could see the huge crains out there all lit up. :no:

rob - 12-28-2007 at 01:32 PM

I phoned a friend whose office looks straight out over the Malecon towards the Mogote construction. He said he could see nothing unusual at all.

NO APPARENT DAMAGE VISIBLE

bajajazz - 12-28-2007 at 01:44 PM

I have a clear view of the high rises on the tip of Mogote and I see no damage on the east side of the development. It is now 1:25 PM, 12-28-07. It is possible that the several cranes that were visible a few days ago have been moved or perhaps blown over. It is also possible that damage has occurred and may be visible from the north or west sides of the high rises.

A few days ago, when the wind was at its strongest, the high rises disappeared from view, obscured by the sand that was blowing in the air. The sight confirmed what I have always thought, that Mogote is not a desirable place to live, golf or do much of anything else, except collect seashells on a fine day.

Since I'm sure others share my opinion that the high rises on Mogote are eyesores that resemble the worst kind of public housing project, it may be that rumors of their collapse are mere wishful thinking.

Understandable, that.

But it is a given that one day -- whether it's five, ten or fifty years from now -- a storm surge is going to take those buildings out. That project is insane.

gnukid - 12-28-2007 at 02:00 PM

Ok I just the super inside word....

Hoy es dia del los innocentes jajaja

It was a lie, there is nothing wrong at Magote. It was a joke in the tradition of dia de los Innocentes.

Jajaja que mentides!

[Edited on 12-28-2007 by gnukid]

P1070081_2.jpg - 27kB

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 02:04 PM

Darn Gnukid, I was waiting for CaboRon top go take pictures. :tumble:

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 02:06 PM

On last night's radio show, I insited (the instigator) the listeners to help out this Dia de los Inocentes, so if you had tuned in you would have known that December 28 is Dia de los Inocentes :lol:

This quote from last year

Quote:

Originally posted by David K

I guess everyone who reads this will now remember to not believe anything outrageous a Mexican posts on Dec. 28th... any more than to believe anything an American posts on April 1st...

Inocente palomita que te dejaste engañar. :saint:

Dia de los Inocentes remotes back to the days of King Herod and the massacre of incocent children when the Reyes Magos told him that they were taking gifts to the new king, and fearful that someone would take his title ordered all children under 5 killed. In México it has become a tradition for hundreds of years. I'ts day of inocent saints. It is all leading to Dia de Reyes. In any case today no one should lend money, books, tools, etc, because they will not return, the person that receives the items or money has to say INOCENTE PALOMITA QUE TE DEJASTE ENGAÑAR, SABIENDO QUE EN ESTE DÍA NADA SE DEBE PRESTAR.

Now, if the person is to return the money or items it has to be in a basquet with candy or/and toys with the saying HERODES, CRUEL E INCLEMENTE, NOS DICE DESDE LA FOSA, QUE CONSIDERA INOCENTE AL QUE PRESTA ALGUNA COSA.
You can also have some fun with this day making up stories of catastrophes or just about anything and have some fun but at the end you must confess and give the basket.

baja Steve - 12-28-2007 at 02:09 PM

Hey Guys it is Dec. 28 . Last year it was the dogs

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 02:14 PM

moragine7, Bigwooo and I will be collecting baskets now. David K(again), judy, pompano, Gnukid, Cabron and all the others, start filling them with candy. :lol:

I love the Nomad sense of humor.
Oh, no need for a disclaimer this year.

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=21697#pid1950...

[Edited on 12-28-2007 by fdt]

[Edited on 12-28-2007 by fdt]

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 02:38 PM

I think the only one exempt is Jack Swords

El Magote

CaboRon - 12-28-2007 at 03:36 PM

Just got back and I will post one of the pics that I took from the Malecon. If I can remember how to do it.... this may take a few tries.

Now I could be wrong, as I have many times before, and yes it might be wishful thinking that this blight has fallen.

But, I thought that last week this was one continous line of buildings.

Should I get the fruit basket ready or not :?:

CaboRon

x

[Edited on 12-28-2007 by CaboRon]

Oso - 12-28-2007 at 03:49 PM

Early this morning, my maintenance staff (minus their vacationing supervisor) came to my office and with great seriousness reminded me that, during our annual Christmas party, I had promised them a special year-end bonus and extra day off.

Yeah, like I had THAT much eggnog. :rolleyes:

I've followed this thread off and on during the day, waiting for the bottom line. :lol:

I didn't say anything as 1) nothing credible I could have added from here, 2) didn't want to spoil the fun and 3) can't post from the office anyway.

The staff definitely wants payback as I love to do 4/1 sendups. One year I informed all staff that a strict dress code would henceforth be in effect, high heels, no slacks for female staff, ties and jackets for all male staff, including maintenance, even in August in Yuma. There were howls of protest :lol:

Then during the first year of the current unpleasantness in Iraq, I informed all male staff between the ages of 18 and 50 that due to the national emergency, they were all being drafted and should report to YMCAS immediately. Most were not sure what was going on, but at least one guy (not the sharpest knife in the drawer) was really upset with tears in his eyes.

Lord, I apologize...

fdt - 12-28-2007 at 03:56 PM

So do you have a basket or what? :lol:

Russ - 12-28-2007 at 04:01 PM

:lol:

BigWooo - 12-28-2007 at 05:46 PM

I was gone most of the day so I missed the fun. Good reading though :spingrin:

Jack Swords - 12-29-2007 at 06:42 AM

Lots of fun to follow this thread throughout the day. Thanks Ferna. Got to admit I grabbed the camera and was on my way to the malecon when I realized it was Day of the Innocents. Sure am glad I didn't see anybody to tell them the news! Wishful thinking perhaps? Even though it was blowing like stink, I would have taken the dinghy across to get photos to post. They, the monoliths, are still standing.