BajaNomad - Deleting your own posts

Deleting your own posts

Roberto - 2-27-2008 at 01:51 PM

I would like to suggest that, once there are responses to a post, the author not be allowed to delete the post. This seems to cause confusion regarding the content of a thread, sometimes to the point of rendering it valueless.

[Edited on 2-27-2008 by Roberto]

Natalie Ann - 2-27-2008 at 01:52 PM

:lol:

Nena

Roberto - 2-27-2008 at 01:55 PM

Off to the corner for you, Missy, this is a serious topic.

Paulina - 2-27-2008 at 02:37 PM

Not a bad idea. One message board that I frequent allows for editing and deleting, but only for a short time period once the message is posted. After that cooling off/ editing period is over, you are stuck with your original comment for everyone to read.

I know there are times that I felt like "taking it back", but facing the music with my posts taught me a better lesson.

P<*)))><

DianaT - 2-27-2008 at 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by Roberto
Off to the corner for you, Missy, this is a serious topic.

Is she not behaving herself again? Careful, she might edit her post. :dudette:

Roberto, while I have been guilty of deleting whole posts and even threads I started, I really agree with you.

What is really irritating is when someone says something, someone else disagrees, and poster number one attacks poster two with a diatribe and meantime, edits his own posts---it does become very confusing. :?:

Then again, I am easily confused----and have learned that some people just can't stand any disagreement.

You have advised me more than once to get out of the mud, and it has been advice well taken. :yes:

Diane

Hook - 2-27-2008 at 02:55 PM

One board I frequent will not allow editing of your post after someone replies SPECIFICALLY to your post. There is a drop down menu that allows you to assign who your post is directed at. "ALL" is also an option; not sure if that option locks out editing.

I think this is a case where if the software doesnt do it, no amount of coddling is going to make people comply. They WILL delete if they regret what they said or posted inaccurate info.

Any recent posts come to mind on this issue, Roberto? :biggrin:

Roberto - 2-27-2008 at 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paulina
Not a bad idea. One message board that I frequent allows for editing and deleting, but only for a short time period once the message is posted. After that cooling off/ editing period is over, you are stuck with your original comment for everyone to read.

I know there are times that I felt like "taking it back", but facing the music with my posts taught me a better lesson.

P<*)))><

Actually, I like that even better. if you need to retract/change something then post again stating that.

Doug, I know that it's easy to interpret this suggestion as specifically directed at ONE person, and to some degree it is, but don't you think it's a general improvement?

Sharksbaja - 2-27-2008 at 03:40 PM

Guilty but I only removed the post because of zero response. I figured very few saw the post and it was up a very short time. Don't worry tho, I got fingered. :lol:

I know what you mean about confusing. Sometimes I'd really like to know what happened to cause the deletion and wtf it said. :saint:

David K - 2-27-2008 at 04:18 PM

Originally the person who began a new thread (a new post/ new subject) 'owned' that thread... and if he/she deleted that first post, all of the replies to it also deleted... "poof".

Doug gave in to complaints that some good stuff got lost if the creator of a new thread deleted it... So, he made it that all replies belonged to the person who replied and not the creator.

New problem cropped up that is being mentioned above, in that now you have a bunch of replies that no longer make much sense with the opening post gone!

Perhaps instead of taking away the ownership of one's own post or reply here (by preventing the deletion of posts/ replies), a *post deleted* note goes into the space where the post or reply was before it was deleted?

Frankly, I think some people just have nothing better to do than whine about what they see or want here... This place is for posting Baja information or stories... When it gets beyond that or goes to name calling or insults then that needs to go, as it is a violation of the board rules. That's the only whine I like, to ask Nomads to stop the insulting of fellow Nomads!

Nomad forums is HUGE with some stuff saved from 2002 when we first began posting here... Trip reports, details, historic photos and maps have value long after they are posted and it is wonderful to still go back to them... Nomad 'Search' works great.

The point is, the personal chit chat or anti-personal junk could all be lost and it wouldn't get missed as it has little to do to help plan a Baja trip or meet up with Nomads. The more of that kind of stuff that can be deleted the better... It all takes up valuable cyber-space that Doug pays for here.

If a problem gets solved, there is no reason the issue needs to stay up. If Nomads cannot delete something that was posted in anger or that got solved or smoothed over, then we will have both the original posts and then written retractions to fill up the boards with.

Delete the junk and get on with BAJA on Nomad!

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-27-2008 at 04:31 PM

Keep it as is... It's good to be able to delete stuff that sounds good during the heat of the moment until you cool off and realize how dumb you are for writing what you did.

David K - 2-27-2008 at 04:33 PM

Grover... here is what I finished that paragraph with:

That's the only whine I like, to ask Nomads to stop the insulting of fellow Nomads!

Now, don't make me whine about partial quotes too! :lol:

(edited a typo: we to me :lol

[Edited on 2-28-2008 by David K]

comitan - 2-27-2008 at 04:38 PM

Great explanation as usual David K, what would we do without you. :tumble:

Roberto - 2-27-2008 at 04:46 PM

David, I'm making a suggestion that, while it certainly applies to you, as I've already said, has other applications as well.

Can we just discuss the merits of the suggestion, without calling other Nomads whiners?

And, if you think about it, making posts permanent once they've been made, could actually LOWER the incidence of negative posts. And I mean ALL such posts, not just the ones directed at you.

[Edited on 2-27-2008 by Roberto]

Sharksbaja - 2-27-2008 at 05:00 PM

:light:

My gawd, that man thinks !! Thanks Roberto.

Like JR used to say...."would you like some cheese with your whine?" :smug:

Paulina - 2-27-2008 at 05:37 PM

I saw that Dennis!

P<*)))><

Sharksbaja - 2-27-2008 at 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by grover

Quote:

Frequently thought by BajaNomad...you guys are such a pain in the butt.

"Guys" collectively!? Somehow that makes me feel better.

Hey what about the "Gulls"?
:bounce:

David K - 2-27-2008 at 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by comitan
Great explanation as usual David K, what would we do without you. :tumble:

Although you obviously have wit and a high IQ and can figure such out, you would be amazed at the number of thank yous I get for taking time to add explanations and details ... not all said is obvious to everyone, afterall! :biggrin:

Of course I have enough IQ to know the difference between sarcasm and a complement :lol:

Now, how about something that is interesting to Nomads, like BAJA?

Natalie Ann - 2-27-2008 at 06:50 PM

:lol:

Nena

vandenberg - 2-27-2008 at 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by Natalie Ann
:lol:

Nena

Needs deleting.!!!!

Waaaaayy.....tooo....short. :biggrin:

Roberto - 2-27-2008 at 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by lencho
Excellent suggestion. I would carry it farther, locking it once anyone has read it, and disabling edits at that point, also. This being able to say one thing to part of the group and change it in the middle of the road, really confuses group process.

--Larry

Yes, I am switching to Paulina's suggestion. All posts should be frozen after a (for example) 3 minute period, during which you could edit it, but not delete it.

If you are not prepared to stand by what you say, don't post. I STILL maintain that this will help the board.

And Nena, you seem to be in a very good mood today. Anything else you would like to say? :lol:

shari - 2-27-2008 at 08:00 PM

I have deleted a few of my posts having thought better of them awhile later....please leave this feature in as mexico can be walking on eggshells experience at the best of times and I have realized a few times perhaps a post would be best not made public....or I was really drunk and shouldn't have posted it at all.....kidding...but it's nice to be able to edit...spelling...out of line comments etc.

BajaNomad - 2-27-2008 at 08:46 PM

This is something that's really covered in the features of the forum software. While I am able to customize the code with XMB, it makes it a royal pain to upgrade the software later - so I typically (these days) work with what is supplied in the "standard" releases. No hacks, plugins, etc.

One of the other forum software packages out there (I believe it's vBulletin - maybe others as well) only allows edits for a temporary period of time, then after that, you can't edit/delete/etc.

While I semi-covet that feature, the benefits of running XMB still seem to outweigh migrating to other forum software by a great deal.

I've put in a feature suggestion with XMB regarding this. We'll see what their take on it is. XMB is under new "ownership" as of recently - which bears watching as well.

http://forums.xmbforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=764276

--
Doug

Roberto - 2-27-2008 at 08:50 PM

I completely understand the reasons for not wanting to customize the software yourself. In your shoes, I would make exactly the same decision. Thanks.

[Edited on 2-28-2008 by Roberto]

DENNIS - 2-27-2008 at 08:54 PM

I like it the way it is.

Roberto - 2-27-2008 at 09:11 PM

Hose A,

I have NO idea why people say you have no sense of humor. For the record, I think you have a very sharp wit, AND a great sense of humor.

:lol:

And, I might add, ethics to top it off.

P.S. I'll be expecting that check in the mail soon. :biggrin:

[Edited on 2-28-2008 by Roberto]

Natalie Ann - 2-27-2008 at 09:12 PM

Another vote for what lencho said:

Quote:

Originally posted by lencho
On the other hand, the cost of not having to stand by one's posts here once they've started to impact the community, is a certain lack of seriousness and accountability which I personally think degrades the effectiveness of the forum.

--Larry

Natalie Ann - 2-27-2008 at 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roberto
And Nena, you seem to be in a very good mood today. Anything else you would like to say? :lol:

Yes.....

Nena

Roberto - 2-27-2008 at 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Natalie Ann

Quote:

Originally posted by Roberto
And Nena, you seem to be in a very good mood today. Anything else you would like to say? :lol:

Yes.....

Nena

Oh, brother - who LET you loose today? :lol:

Just kidding, you are quite obviously, quite the lady, even if you DO run nekkid on motorcycles in Bezerkley.

[Edited on 2-28-2008 by Roberto]

Natalie Ann - 2-27-2008 at 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roberto
.... even if you DO run nekkid on motorcycles in Bezerkley.

[Edited on 2-28-2008 by Roberto]

one last time... :lol:

say goodnight Nena
goodnight
Nena

Roberto - 2-27-2008 at 09:35 PM

Ok, I give up.

:lol:

(You didn't REALLY think I'd let you get the last laugh did you?).

:lol:

gibson - 2-28-2008 at 02:04 AM

I like the status quo which enables me to continually retreat and 'edit', so as I can tone it down a lil'
otherwise ... trust me ... I could end up making some 'online enimas'

bajalera - 3-1-2008 at 05:56 PM

My vote would go to not having the option of deleting posts at all, or at least to have deletions subject to a three-minute rule, as someone [was it Paulina?] suggested.

amir - 3-3-2008 at 01:21 AM

Being able to alter a post after somebody else has responded to it, to me, is a basic flaw in communication. You should NOT be able to retroactively change the reason, or the cause, of an argument. If something gets changed, all that follows becomes invalid.

This is exactly why I sort of quit pouring my soul into this forum. Especially in Off-Topic. What's the sense of having a dialogue if then you change what you had said?

oldlady - 3-3-2008 at 06:12 AM

Is it all that tricky to think before you post?