BajaNomad - Trucks for sale?

Trucks for sale?

fishbuck - 3-6-2008 at 01:48 PM

You may have seen my threads advertising my trucks.
What do you think?
I buy trucks in the us and sell them in Baja. I deliver them anywhere in Baja.
I make a buck and get a trip to Baja.
Think it will work?
How about cars? I'm thinking Toyota RAV4s. Chevy Astro Vans.
What is the most desired vehicle to the local population that doesn't have access to the US?
What about boats?

DENNIS - 3-6-2008 at 02:10 PM

It will work if you earn a reputation for delivering exactly what you say the vehicle is. Customers will be buying your word as well as a car.
Go for it.

BajaGeoff - 3-6-2008 at 02:40 PM

I am pretty sure buying cars here and selling them in Baja is illegal.

Plus, are you planning on walking home after you deliver the car?

fishbuck - 3-6-2008 at 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by BajaGeoff
I am pretty sure buying cars here and selling them in Baja is illegal.

Plus, are you planning on walking home after you deliver the car?

Is it illegal? I was wondering.
Getting home. North of G. Nergro I'll ride te bus. South of G. Negro I'll fly home.
So I'm driving around with the $ on the back window in white shoe polish with a cell phone number. I see it all the time. Is that illegal?
Also I see guys pulling cars and trucks on dollies.
How would they catch me if I drive it down there unmarked to a pre arranged buyer?

tripledigitken - 3-6-2008 at 02:51 PM

Years ago I knew someone doing this and he had gone through all kinds of hoops to get the paperwork to do so. To tell you the truth at the time I thought he was still not completely ligit on the program.

Do some homework on this one the penalty could be unpleasant.

Good luck.

fishbuck - 3-6-2008 at 03:00 PM

I'm all for playing by the rules and all but...
I buy the vehicles here in the states cash. I ask the prior owner to not sign the pink. I take it to baja and exchange for cash. I return home.
How could that go wrong? My name is never on the paperwork! My guess is that it is done that way all the time. The new owner deals with the Mex reg. He just says he bought it in the US right?

[Edited on 3-6-2008 by fishbuck]

Martyman - 3-6-2008 at 03:20 PM

Fish;
I say go for it. You don't want to get caught and end up in the hoosegow of course, but...you knew that. People do things under the table all the time. Good Luck...maybe I'll get a Tundra.

fishbuck - 3-6-2008 at 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by morgaine7

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Originally posted by fishbuck
The new owner deals with the Mex reg. He just says he bought it in the US right?

Wrong! You can't register an imported car here without producing its documentation ("Pedimento de Importacíon"). People driving around with $ and cell number on the window are selling cars that are legal. How would they catch you? The first irate buyer who couldn't get plates would report your cell number, and you could end up taking a much longer Baja vacation than you'd planned. :rolleyes:

Kate

Couldn't the new owner get the "Pidimento" ? How do people who already have cars down there from the states make them legal? I'm sure there is a way. I'd work that out in advance so I don't have "irates" turning me in.
That is why I am asking.

fishbuck - 3-6-2008 at 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by morgaine7

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Originally posted by fishbuck
The new owner deals with the Mex reg. He just says he bought it in the US right?

Kate

Prepaid $30 cell phone. In the trash on my way out of town. New one each trip.
Just like on tv. :yes:

fishbuck - 3-6-2008 at 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by morgaine7

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Originally posted by fishbuck
The new owner deals with the Mex reg. He just says he bought it in the US right?

Kate

Or... I buy the vehicle, go to the Mex consulate here in Santa Ana and get the "Pedimento" and import it legally. Then I sell in Baja. Now what is wrong with that?

[Edited on 3-6-2008 by fishbuck]

bancoduo - 3-6-2008 at 03:41 PM

What you doing is 100% illegal. You are smuggling cars into Mexico, a federal offence. Have you ever seen the inside of a Mexican jail, not pretty. Keep it up and you will soon find out for yourself. What you are doing is really stupid. I think you are a neophyte as far as Mexico is concerned.

GOOD LUCK!

fishbuck - 3-6-2008 at 03:46 PM

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Originally posted by bancoduo
What you doing is 100% illegal. You are smuggling cars into Mexico, a federal offence. Have you ever seen the inside of a Mexican jail, not pretty. Keep it up and you will soon find out for yourself. What you are doing is really stupid. I think you are a neophyte as far as Mexico is concerned.

GOOD LUCK!

Well, I haven't "done" anything yet. But I'm sure you have already turned me in to your Judicail Police buddies.
Instead of raining on my idea, since you are soo smart about Baja maybe you could tell me how I could do this legally. Since you're so smart and all.

[Edited on 3-6-2008 by fishbuck]

comitan - 3-6-2008 at 03:47 PM

When you are in prison take a lot of money you can then live comfortably.

Its very simple you can't do it.

[Edited on 3-6-2008 by comitan]

vandenberg - 3-6-2008 at 03:48 PM

The only way this may have a chance of working, is, if you register the vehicle in your name in California, bring it down here and sell it to a gringo, who would have to transfer ownership back in California and get the vehicle in his name.
Vehicles are sold between gringos that way all the time.
Better take some time looking into this. Those Mexican slammers are no picnic. :no:

oldjack - 3-6-2008 at 03:51 PM

Probably would more profitable to spend more time "marketing" the right way than giving away info here for free.... sometimes telling everything you know is expensive and seldom productive.....

fishbuck - 3-6-2008 at 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by vandenberg
The only way this may have a chance of working, is, if you register the vehicle in your name in California, bring it down here and sell it to a gringo, who would have to transfer ownership back in California and get the vehicle in his name.
Vehicles are sold between gringos that way all the time.
Better take some time looking into this. Those Mexican slammers are no picnic. :no:

Thank you Vandenburg. How do I sell one to a Mex citizen?

vandenberg - 3-6-2008 at 03:52 PM

Elaborating on my own post.
Careful, because if the Mexicans figure out you're doing htis as a business, no knowing what they will do. :no:

comitan - 3-6-2008 at 03:53 PM

Fishbuck to answer your last question, become one.!!!!

vandenberg - 3-6-2008 at 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by fishbuck

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Thank you Vandenburg. How do I sell one to a Mex citizen?

You can't.
Now that's definitely "ILLEGAL" :no:

fishbuck - 3-6-2008 at 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by comitan
Fishbuck to answer your last question, become one.!!!!

I'm working on it. I renew my FM3 next month. 1st aniversary.
How many more years till I'm Mexican?

BajaWarrior - 3-6-2008 at 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by fishbuck
I'm all for playing by the rules and all but...
I buy the vehicles here in the states cash. I ask the prior owner to not sign the pink. I take it to baja and exchange for cash. I return home.
How could that go wrong? My name is never on the paperwork! My guess is that it is done that way all the time. The new owner deals with the Mex reg. He just says he bought it in the US right?

[Edited on 3-6-2008 by fishbuck]

Fish,

Who would NOT sign the pink and ask for a transfer of title to be filled out by YOU?

He (the seller) opens himself up to a huge liability the minute you leave with the vehicle...

If selling a vehicle was as simple as you hope it will be then everyone would be doing it.

Sorry, my morality is kicking in all of a sudden.

vandenberg - 3-6-2008 at 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by fishbuck

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Thank you Vandenburg. How do I sell one to a Mex citizen?

You can't.
That is highly "ILLEGAL" and will get you a free trip back to the old US of A after a long stretch in a Mexican Pen. :biggrin:

Try it , you like it. :lol:

DENNIS - 3-6-2008 at 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by fishbuck
How many more years till I'm Mexican?

I thought it was a state of mind.

fishbuck - 3-6-2008 at 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by BajaWarrior

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Ya, the not signing the pink didn't make much sense.
I do see alot of people doing it. Cars on dollies every trip.
I'm not trying to make you guys mad at me. But you all see ready to put me into the Mex jail.
I'm brain storming. I'm always brain storming ideas to make a living in Baja. This just seems like something I can do.
I can drive cars. I can buy cars.
If I can find a buyer and work out the details... legally... then I would do this.
Also I could eliver thigs to people from the states northern Baja.
So quit trying to put me in jail. I'm a good guy and I do play by the rules.
But thank you for the useful suggestions. Keep em coming!

Acuity - 3-6-2008 at 04:30 PM

My understanding is that you cannot legally sell any unimported car here. There is a reason for importation. Some do it none the less, but they take a risk. Would you run a business in the US that was known to be illegal?

And one could say that you were running a business here if you did it often and for a profit - which would require a working FM3, which you are unlikely to get.

Sorry to rain on your parade. But Mexico has rules, just like other countries.

drzura - 3-6-2008 at 08:59 PM

Sounds like this guy is a con artist. I would not buy anything from this guy...

fishbuck - 3-6-2008 at 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by drzura
Sounds like this guy is a con artist. I would not buy anything from this guy...

Con artist? That's a good thing right?
I guess you mean me. Why do I sound like a con-artist? If I was a con-artist I'd be trying to sell condos at Loreto Bay would'nt I?
But thanks for the vote of "con"fidence!

bajaguy - 3-6-2008 at 09:07 PM

Nah, Fishbuck is for real

longlegsinlapaz - 3-6-2008 at 09:41 PM

:lol:

Fishbuck, you need to brainstorm ANOTHER way to retire early, make cerveza $$ & get a bar-lineless tan in relative freedom!! This thread has given me the best laughs of my day! Thanks! :bounce:

drzura - 3-6-2008 at 09:57 PM

just open up a strip club.... nice eye candy while making money...

fishbuck - 3-6-2008 at 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
:lol:

Fishbuck, you need to brainstorm ANOTHER way to retire early, make cerveza $$ & get a bar-lineless tan in relative freedom!! This thread has given me the best laughs of my day! Thanks! :bounce:

Ya well this idea may end up in the dust bin along with Newport Beach Jigalo and tallship captain.
But I ain't giving up on my dream!

fishbuck - 3-6-2008 at 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by drzura
just open up a strip club.... nice eye candy while making money...

Not a bad idea! I better begin (more) research right away. I think I'll start in Ensenada.

BajaWarrior - 3-6-2008 at 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by drzura
Sounds like this guy is a con artist. I would not buy anything from this guy...

Easy with the name calling Newbie, many of us know this guy, like other Nomads. Fishbuck is just thinking out loud.

He's harmless, we keep him around just to humor us.

So what's your story drzura, get to Baja much?

drzura - 3-6-2008 at 10:09 PM

Newbie :mad:

I am 32 years old, have been to Baja a "few" times :fire:

I grew up in Oceanside and my parents used to bring me to Baja for our vacations, and I have been doing the same with my daugther. I love going to Baja. I plan on retiring down there in the future. I was down there last summer and may be going down this summer for about a month (depends if they approve my leave).

drzura - 3-6-2008 at 10:12 PM

I know that buck was just being a dork

....we all act that way sometimes (me more than others) :tumble:

Just Some Ideals

TMW - 3-7-2008 at 08:29 AM

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Originally posted by fishbuck

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Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
:lol:

Fishbuck, you need to brainstorm ANOTHER way to retire early, make cerveza $$ & get a bar-lineless tan in relative freedom!! This thread has given me the best laughs of my day! Thanks! :bounce:

Ya well this idea may end up in the dust bin along with Newport Beach Jigalo and tallship captain.
But I ain't giving up on my dream!

Maybe you should talk to some used car dealers to see if you can deal with them in a legal way. Maybe talk to various police chiefs to see how they get their cars/trucks and how you could help them, again in a legal way.

vandenberg - 3-7-2008 at 08:55 AM

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Maybe talk to various police chiefs to see how they get their cars/trucks and how you could help them,

Now, there's one for the books. :biggrin:

truck sales

Heather - 3-7-2008 at 09:09 AM

My husband and I thought selling cars down South was a pretty good idea, too, and we made out OK the 2 times we tried it.

We were living in Playas de TJ at the time and had a Ford Ranger 4X4 that was imported. Drove it down to La Paz and think we found a buyer in San Jose. Made a bit of $$ on that.

We also had a US Volkswagen Golf that we traded in TJ for a little imported mini-van. We drove the van down and did another trade for a piece of land! We've got a large lot in Pescadero, Los Cerritos beach, that is now in my husband's name.... and then we got out of the business! This only worked for us because of my husband's connections. The land trade was with his ex-father-in-law and is kind of an inheritance for my step-sons. Nice piece of property, though!

I think you would have to import the cars first, but I don't know the legality of doing this. Lots of people do, but think they are set up as legitimate businesses.
The other option may be to get the clients lined up first and then bring them down what they want. We are always getting calls from relatives in Cabo or La Paz that want a particular car and have so much to spend, etc. We've done it a couple of times, (bought cars in the US and had them imported in TJ and then had the new owner pick them up), but it's a lot of work and time!

Don't know if this helps, just thought I'd share my experience. Saludos, H.

Fire Trucks, Ambulances

bajaguy - 3-7-2008 at 09:10 AM

I would like to see more first response capable small trucks and ambulances in the smaller towns and communities......might be a worthwile project. Maybe Terry 28, Soulpatch and Alan can chime in with their expertise.

Terry28 - 3-7-2008 at 10:01 AM

I may be able to shed a little light here. The folks towing cars are Mexican citizens that bought them at the auctions in San Diego and San Ysidiro and are legally importing them. You can do it Fish but it is a large hassle for a gingo looking to make "quick' bucks...probably not worh the big hassle unless you get hooked up with a local importer, Now for Terry's question on fire trucks and meat wagons (ambulances), Those get donated by various departments,in U.S. sister cities, (sold for a dollar on the paperwork) and driven down. You neet to get U.S. folks with the equipment to get the ballrolling. This happens all the time. Sometimes the state dept. gets involved other times it is handeled by the Mexican Govt.
It can be done with effort by both the receiving dept. and the sending one. Hope this helps at least a little.....

T-28

bajaguy - 3-7-2008 at 10:14 AM

What about "Sister City" agreements and donations??? Can a US city adopt a small town or village???? Do you know if there are procedures for this???

Terry28 - 3-7-2008 at 10:21 AM

Yup..It's done all the time......Now the how is the question....don't know myself...anyone else.....?

jimgrms - 3-7-2008 at 11:07 AM

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But you could possibly get the previous owner in trouble
do it right and be legal