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Doug........Is there a way to not see posts of someone

Debra - 3-17-2008 at 07:17 PM

that you would not really like to read. I'd really like (and I think others might too) be able to just not see the posts of some. I hate it when I'm reading and enjoying a thread and then get blinded-sided by someone that seems to have no other reason to post than to be rude.

bajamigo - 3-17-2008 at 07:36 PM

Look at the author's name on the left. If it's someone you don't like, move on. You'll be OK unless you have terrific peripheral vision.
:coolup:

fishbuck - 3-17-2008 at 09:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Debra
that you would not really like to read. I'd really like (and I think others might too) be able to just not see the posts of some. I hate it when I'm reading and enjoying a thread and then get blinded-sided by someone that seems to have no other reason to post than to be rude.


Dennis really isn't that bad after you get to know him.:tumble:

BajaNomad - 3-18-2008 at 12:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Debra
that you would not really like to read. I'd really like (and I think others might too) be able to just not see the posts of some. I hate it when I'm reading and enjoying a thread and then get blinded-sided by someone that seems to have no other reason to post than to be rude.
Well, one of our users here requested that in a future software update from the board software source.... and it looks like they are seriously considering it:
http://forums.xmbforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=764108

--
Doug

fishbuck - 3-18-2008 at 12:55 AM

Hey Doug!

I request that the format be left alone. If there are incidences where people don't follow the rules or the intent of the rule you can deal with it case by case.
But leave the free flowing spontaneity of the board intact.
Debra, I'm not trying to insult you. Maybe I didn't read the post you read but I haven't seen anything in here to hurt my feelings yet. Sorry.
And I'm sorry about the rude post. I hope it wasn't one of mine.
Oh yeah, lighten up a little:cool:

longlegsinlapaz - 3-18-2008 at 08:24 AM

I agree with Debra!! I'm definitely not a lightweight in the sensitivity department, but as debra said, you can be reading along & enjoying a post & then someone slips in an offensive post that ruins the entire thread for everyone; well, okay, maybe not everyone, but many people who have any sensitivity to rude or offensive posts! Some on this site can tend to forget that this is dual-sex site and that the membership crosses many generations, IMHO, there are posts which are totally inappropriate for teens to be reading, just as there are posts which are offensive to the older, supposedly more hardened generations. We're all individual, and as such, we each have our own unique level of tolerance. One mans' humor is another mans' reason to be offended! There are several people whose posts I'd choose never to view if given the opportunity. Obviously, the board rules are not enforced to the exact wording of the rules, or many posters would have been permanently banned for repeated offenses. A public apology can't "unring the bell" of words once they've been read, especially when the offensive poster then immediately proceeds to move the offensiveness to other threads. Those who are proponents of the "If it offends you, don't read it!" theory might consider taking the time to stop & absorb the fact that you can't know what's going to offend until it's too late! Telling someone to lighten up only proves my point of individual offensive levels; obviously if someones' offence threshhold has been crossed, it's a personal tolerance level that others don't need to understand, they should just respect that individuals feelings. Since monitoring can't be done to each of our tolerance levels, I feel that having the capability to not view specific individuals posts would be a viable & welcome option. Doug could consider using it as a helpful tool....if a certain percentage of posters have blocked any given person, then maybe that persons' posting privileges should be permanently revoked. This is a great site with a wealth of valuable information....when it avoids the mens locker room mentality!

Natalie Ann - 3-18-2008 at 08:31 AM

I agree with Bajamigo on this - if you don't want to read someone's post, look at the name first and read only those you do want to read.

And yes, I should follow my own advice more often.;D:biggrin:

Nena

Martyman - 3-18-2008 at 08:36 AM

Dear Longlegs;
What?

I do regularly avoid a couple of posters

djh - 3-18-2008 at 11:00 AM

as bajamigo suggested....

IF there was an option for me to block MY seeing those posts - by name (without affecting others' viewing)... I know that I would use it. And I'm not sure, but I imagine others besides LLegs and I would use the option too...

This is a fantastic forum... I browse it almost daily, and have since even before I "joined".... and I have tons of appreciation and respect for all of Doug's work that we all benefit from. The only OTHER thing I do most every day with my computer is to check my Email.

DENNIS - 3-18-2008 at 12:53 PM

If people want private conversations, they should just pick up the phone and have one.

Sharksbaja - 3-18-2008 at 01:13 PM

Legs.....Lord knows I tries!:lol: Adjectives are something like ammo eh. Put in the wrong bullet and WHAM..... no more best friends.:no:(sigh)

Ok, I am recinding all the insulting, degoratory or otherwise hurtful words I have posted. Now, where to start???

1.) Biscuits
2.)Gravy
3.)uh..

I guess that's it. Whew, I feel sooo much betta now.:lol:



Tolerance, people.

Terry28 - 3-18-2008 at 01:16 PM

Sounds like censorship to me. I think people should only speak for themselfs (LongLegs)....remember...sticks and stones etc. Hope no one is offended!!!!!

DENNIS - 3-18-2008 at 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by Sharksbaja


3.uh..



Gosh. I'm glad I never heard you say that.

gibson - 3-18-2008 at 01:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Debra
that you would not really like to read. I'd really like (and I think others might too) be able to just not see the posts of some. I hate it when I'm reading and enjoying a thread and then get blinded-sided by someone that seems to have no other reason to post than to be rude.


china's calling you. adios

vandenberg - 3-18-2008 at 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
I agree with Debra!!


And I don't !!

For the simple reason that when you would be able to turn off an ( in your opinion ) offensive poster and other folks respond to that ( again ,in your opinion ) offensive post, the fluidity of that thread could be lost to you, since you have no way to find out what they are responding to. And before you know it, the whole thread would turn to gibberish.

And I have found that an offensive post usually get responded to and the offender put in his place by some clever rebuttal.

Debra - 3-18-2008 at 01:45 PM

Bajamigo and Nene,

I already avoid posts of some, the problem comes when you are in the middle of reading a thread and the "problem" comes in the middle. I have no way of knowing the "offender" is on that thread. You only see the author of the topic and the last poster. I'm not asking that anyone be banned (that is none of my concern) What I'm asking is there a way that I, and I alone can block someone I may not want to hear from. It would change nothing for anyone else as far as what they read.

Fishbuck, I'm really not that sensitive. I'm just tired (as I said) of enjoying a post and then have to "listen" to the same old garbage (7yrs. of it as I mentioned)

David, I'm sorry for hi-jacking your thread, I should have just posed the question to Doug (as I finally did)

Personally I too like it when someone says they will be "gone" for awhile and I can understand when someone is excited about a trip, Baja or not, and want to share their excitment, what harm can that do?

When someone "vanishes" people wonder and sometimes worry (I've had my email and U2 "blow up" which caused a problem in the "old" days of not much space in my email inbox, and little or no computer access while traveling.

DENNIS - 3-18-2008 at 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by vandenberg
And I have found that an offensive post usually get responded to and the offender put in his place by some clever rebuttal.


And, don't I know that to be a fact. I wear a catchers mask when I'm on the boards and that's the main reason I still have my teeth.
This place is self-moderating to a certain extent. Members don't for long put up with my nonsense and I don't put up with theirs. It may sound like bickering and back-biting to some but, it's how we converse with each other. It's a good blend, I believe, somewhere between Sunday School and a kick-ass bar. Everybody has a moment at the lecturn. Not only that, I've yet to see a thread here that hasn't invited passionate discourse, joined by those who try to interject some. Did anyone ever see a nasty word in one of Ken Bondy's threads? Or, Judy's flower photography? No.

I have to ask some here....Who would you hate if you didn't hate me? Who would be your release? You have to have some reason for coming back for more. In a way, you thrive on the discourse. You enjoy it, I just know you do.
So, it's all part of the rap that we put together here. Opinions being shared.
Actually, it's all fun when one learns to navigate the environment and when it gets over the line, the mods take over.

Jeezo, folks. This isn't Bible class. It's Baja class, warts and all.

Rude Posters

Gypsy Jan - 3-18-2008 at 03:36 PM

Here's a recent Point-Counterpoint discussion on the issue:

Edward Wasserman, a professor of journalism ethics, thinks the rudeness of certain commenters detracts from the overall discussion: “The extreme license given individuals to vent, dissemble, excoriate and indulge their hates verbally, winds up destroying the expressive freedom that other people, less bold and less opinionated, need. ... The overall result is a less expansive, less robust sphere of expression and sound, worthwhile thoughts aren't shared.”

The counterpoint commenter replied, "If someone isn't bold enough to express his or her opinion anonymously in an online forum out of fear of meanie commenters, that person is a wimp. Sorry, it had to be said."

"Wasserman goes on to say there should be rules. But what about major news organizations? How should they police the smarter than you, more insanely random than you, boring and bored? And frankly, are these people even worth policing. Do most Times readers care about the vocal group of commenters?"

DENNIS - 3-18-2008 at 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
“The extreme license given individuals to vent, dissemble, excoriate and indulge their hates verbally, winds up destroying the expressive freedom that other people, less bold and less opinionated, need. ... The overall result is a less expansive, less robust sphere of expression and sound, worthwhile thoughts aren't shared.”



This is pure crap. What this wimpy jerk is saying is that a strong vocal representation of an idea will drown out an intimidated responder resulting in a "less robust sphere of expression."
Perhaps the responder should grow a pair.......vocal chords that is.

bajabound2005 - 3-18-2008 at 07:36 PM

Hey! Any word on the Annual Book Signing at Pyramid Resort....like which authors will be there? And how 'bout those Red Sox???

DENNIS - 3-18-2008 at 07:42 PM

Carl Yaztremski will be signing Edward Wassermans book because he's too timid to sign it himself.

amir - 3-18-2008 at 09:39 PM

So there are tools to block spam, to block certain email addresses, block callers on your cell-phone, parental controls to block inappropriate content, etc. They are great tools. People don't have to use them if they don't want to, but it is a wonderful option for some members.

I personally don't read posts of some members who spew only hatred and confrontation. I have also wondered why the moderators ignore repeated offenders of board rules, while they summarily block others for what seems to be less global offenses.

Tolerance? You Bet! :fire::fire::fire:

David K - 3-19-2008 at 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by amir

... I have also wondered why the moderators ignore repeated offenders of board rules, while they summarily block others for what seems to be less global offenses.

Tolerance? You Bet! :fire::fire::fire:


Yes, that is something I have noticed (a lot)!:lol::light: But, the world isn't a fair place, so why should Nomad be any different? I think they would keep more people (specially mature people) here if they didn't allow the hate posts to stay.

oladulce - 3-19-2008 at 09:43 AM

The other forum I read is a "Vbulletin" based bulletin board and it does have a feature that allows users to set up an "ignore posts" list in their own control panel. This feature is called an "Ignore List" on their site.

You click on the member's name and next to their bio is the option to "add user to your ignore list". Posts made by that person will no longer come up on your version of the forum but it will not impact anyone elses viewing.
I've never felt the need to "ignore" anyone on the other site so I don't know how much it impacts the flow of a thread to block out posts.

Don't know if I'd use the feature if it was available on Nomad. But, it might cut down on headaches from doing this :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

soulpatch - 3-19-2008 at 10:13 AM

I use the "avert my eyes" feature and it really works well. I really haven't seen anything I didn't want, on some level (kind of like a car wreck), to see.:light:

Stickers - 3-19-2008 at 10:57 AM

If you are not yet a grumpy old man then reading their posts can be educational and maybe help prevent you from becoming one.
I am personally working very hard on preventative measures and not making much progress.
I must add though that I have no problems with TRUTH which seems to be something many cannot deal with these days. If what seems to be a nasty post is truthful I welcome it.


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Bob and Susan - 3-19-2008 at 11:44 AM

"can't we all just get along???":lol::lol:



ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King

BajaNomad - 3-19-2008 at 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by amir
...I have also wondered why the moderators ignore repeated offenders of board rules, while they summarily block others for what seems to be less global offenses.
There are few individuals that are in the "summarily block" category.

The goal is to keep people participating, not kick them off the board. Certain individuals when proposed with a choice however, have made the decision for themselves to not participate further - and they are held to their word (within the technical abilities we have here to do so).

The key piece of what you wrote is this phrase: "what seems to be".... and my reminder to you is things are not always as they seem... and in these instances, I'd say without exception that this is absolutely the case.

Regards,
--
Doug Means

The Gull - 3-19-2008 at 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
“The extreme license given individuals to vent, dissemble, excoriate and indulge their hates verbally, winds up destroying the expressive freedom that other people, less bold and less opinionated, need. ... The overall result is a less expansive, less robust sphere of expression and sound, worthwhile thoughts aren't shared.”



This is pure crap. What this wimpy jerk is saying is that a strong vocal representation of an idea will drown out an intimidated responder resulting in a "less robust sphere of expression."
Perhaps the responder should grow a pair.......vocal chords that is.


Calling someone a "wimpy jerk" is tolerated, so what is next?

Martyman - 3-19-2008 at 12:58 PM

I think they would keep more people (specially mature people) here if they didn't allow the hate posts to stay.

Please god, do not allow me to become a mature person

Packoderm - 3-19-2008 at 01:07 PM

If we had a member view filter:

The off-topic forum would be a whole different place. The cyber-bully factor would virtually evaporate. Would the number of people who block a particular member show up on the Stats sections? :lol: If I were blocked from many member's view, how would I announce that I have changed my ways and will no longer be a troll?

DENNIS - 3-19-2008 at 02:23 PM

And, if we were required to have a camera on our computer showing us live and in action, all the nonsense would stop. Anonymity invites anti-social behavior.

Sharksbaja - 3-19-2008 at 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
And, if we were required to have a camera on our computer showing us live and in action, all the nonsense would stop. Anonymity invites anti-social behavior.


Now you're scaring me.

DENNIS - 3-19-2008 at 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by Sharksbaja

Now you're scaring me.


Sorry. I wasn't suggesting we should do it.

vandenberg - 3-19-2008 at 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Sharksbaja

Now you're scaring me.


Sorry. I wasn't suggesting we should do it.


And why not.:?::?:

Here a preview of my webcam:

Man-Eating-His-Nose.jpg - 29kB

DENNIS - 3-19-2008 at 04:21 PM

Xlnt.:lol:

BMG - 3-19-2008 at 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by vandenberg
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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by Sharksbaja

Now you're scaring me.


Sorry. I wasn't suggesting we should do it.


And why not.:?::?:

Here a preview of my webcam:


First time I've seen you smiling.

amir - 3-19-2008 at 11:16 PM

Viva Baja !!! Viva Nomads !!! :cool::cool::cool: