Remember even with the recent fall of the dollar relative to the peso and the rise in gas prices in the states, today, gas is still $2.50 per gallon
or less in Baja Norte.
Regular gas purchased at PEMEX in Primo Tapia this morning.
Last night, gasoline was the same price as the Margaritas at the Palms Grill next to the gas station, except the liquid volume was less at the Palms.
The Palms had six TV screens with different sports on each and a Latin Fusion band, the PEMEX did not have entertainment.
You can get your car washed for under $5 across the street from the both of them.
One block south you can get the world's largest (and best) fish tacos from Flor at Mariscos Alegria for $2.
Why stay home?Iflyfish - 4-19-2008 at 10:45 AM
You have a number of excellent points there! Sounds great to me. Mas tacos de pescada por favor e uno Pacifico nada mas!
Iflyfishwhennotlustingafterfishtacosandpacificos!The Gull - 4-19-2008 at 04:44 PM
Cheap gas, good cheap drinks and free entertainment, good cheap food, good cheap car wash - not a combination I can readily identify with any other
place nearby the USA.
Recently experienced the same in Costa Rica, again, but it took over 7 hours of flight time and $260 RT to get there.Barry A. - 4-19-2008 at 04:57 PM
Mr. Bird-------------a car wash in Redding, CA costs $1.00, but of course you have to do all the work.
barryThe Gull - 4-19-2008 at 05:08 PM
Of course, in fact I think I stopped at one there when returning from Oregon last year. Couldn't see out of the windshield after a week of snow and
rain.
I overlooked the best part of the cheap car wash. When they are done with your car, they drive it over to the Palm Grill where you could have
finished 3-4 $2.50 drinks while watching an array of sports activity for the last hour and they hand you your keys. Your fuel tank is full, your
tequila intake is at max and you are ready for the road.DENNIS - 4-19-2008 at 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by The Gull
took over 7 hours of flight time and $260 RT to get there.
Why didn't you just flap your wings and save the money?vgabndo - 4-19-2008 at 06:00 PM
Three or four ounces of hard liquor and you're "ready for the road". If the carwash was really a good deal for everyone, they'd HIDE your keys. The
roads around there are dangerous enough WITHOUT the DUI drivers.conquestkm - 4-20-2008 at 08:02 AM
I have been using that young mans car wash for years . There is none better . No body cleans a car better . Only thing you have got to be very
patient .DENNIS - 4-20-2008 at 08:04 AM
WOW Gull..... You're kinda cranky this morning. What happened? Did they pump all the cess out of your pool leaving no place for you to swim and
preen?The Gull - 4-20-2008 at 08:08 AM
Mennis the stalkerTerry28 - 4-20-2008 at 10:53 AM
Gull, Your right on in your descriptions...those are some of our favorite places!! We also like the taco stand next to the palm grill..Taco's
Cantamar" no beer sold there but they let our 13yr old daughter work in the kitchen and are helping her with her spanish...we leave for Las Gaviotas
wed. for a 5 day stay.....yea!vgabndo - 4-20-2008 at 12:28 PM
Communication...clear, concise, direct and authentic.
If you want to glorify drunk driving slide back over to off-topic. Driving under the enfluence of drugs or alcohol is illegal, immoral, and
anti-social. If you do it, or if as in this case, you glorify it; get used to being called out for being part of the problem rather
than part of the solution.
The businesses you recommend may be wonderful places, but THIS is not the place to suggest that drinking three or four ounces of hard liquor makes
ANYONE "ready for the road". I invite you to save that sort of comment for your stuff on the off-topic forum where the majority of your posts on
BajaNomad can be found.
Since I am holding you accountable for being out of integrity, let me remind you that I found fault with your content, you chose to personally insult
me.The Gull - 4-20-2008 at 01:42 PM
Nice clear, concise proselytizing. Amen.
Tell me you have never read another post on this board about drinking? Where was your moral outrage then, sister?
Your (and Mennis') continued stalking of my posts has no place on this board. Say Amen, brother.vgabndo - 4-20-2008 at 04:10 PM
I am on record here as having no patience at all for those who abuse alcohol especially while driving.
If you have some defense of driving under the influence of alcohol, I'll read it. It will have to be a unique viewpoint.
I am not your sister, Gull, nor your brother.
If you regularly participated on the on-topic side of these forums you'd know that from reading the "mugshots" thread.
I invite you to join the civil side of the board and post your picture on the thread.
I have had my car washed at Cantamar/Primo Tapia and and had "Ladies' Day" appetizers at the Palm while waiting.
I have had very good margaritias at the Palm, also.
No car washes, appetizers or margaritas were taken in excess.
That is all.
[Edited on 4-21-2008 by Gypsy Jan]vgabndo - 4-21-2008 at 12:05 AM
Driving under the influence of a carwash is WAY under my radar!The Gull - 4-21-2008 at 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by vgabndo
Driving under the influence of a carwash is WAY under my radar!
Must be a chunky in the armor-all.
I am going on the record here and now that drinking and munching on Ladies' Day appetizers while waiting for your carwash is done, amounts to a
perfectly good way to enjoy an afternoon in Baja. If I was stuck in a bunghole in NorCal, I might have a sour and bitter attitude toward those who
have the luxury to enjoy Baja any day of the week. Damn car won't cooperate and get dirty, often enough. Take THAT for an official position!!!!!!!
I am The Gull and I approve of this message.
Here's my mugshot -
To match your schoolyard tactics from above - naaa naa naa naaa naoxxo - 4-21-2008 at 07:55 AM
I hate to prove my ignorance to the whole world, but where is Primo Tapia, please?The Gull - 4-21-2008 at 08:01 AM
Ignorance has always been a "curable" condition. Primo Tapia is the correct name for the area one mile south of Puerto Nuevo. Lots of US folks know
it as Cantamar, since there is a small group of beach houses near there with that name. From the toll road it is one more exit south from the Puerto
Nuevo exit and it is also well known for the big sand dunes that are on the south end of Primo Tapia.Hook - 4-21-2008 at 09:04 AM
Recent fall of the dollar in relation to the peso? That's news to me. Seems like it's been hovering in the 10.8-11.2 range for a couple years now.vgabndo - 4-21-2008 at 11:30 AM
Remember, Gull, this is the civil side of the board. I asked if you had some defense of your statement that DUI was cool. Apparently you don't and I
reserve the right to disrespect you for your original statement. Your personal insults are inappropriate.
Relative to my living in a "bung hole", as opposed to a place the US government warns people not to visit, I can say this:
I flush my toilet with better water than you can buy in a bottle where you live, and I only lock my doors when I go on vacation. Bung hole indeed.
Originally posted by Hook
Recent fall of the dollar in relation to the peso? That's news to me. Seems like it's been hovering in the 10.8-11.2 range for a couple years now.
It rose to 10.46 last week.
.oxxo - 4-21-2008 at 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by The Gull
Primo Tapia is the correct name for the area one mile south of Puerto Nuevo.
Ah-ha, since I cross at Tecate I don't ever drive through that area. Thanks.Roberto - 4-21-2008 at 04:29 PM
The Palms - is that the place that used to be called the Palmira? I remember it as a great, funky place, with great Lobster Bisque. Left my wallet
there with a bunch of cash and all my credit cards one night, figured it out once I got back home to San Diego. Went back in the middle of the night
(actually early hours of the AM, the cops woke up the Dueno, who had my wallet -- intact.
Went back a few years back and found a fancy place with a bunch of ... well, let's just say the crowd had changed.
The food is still good? Do they still make the Lobster Bisque?
[Edited on 4-21-2008 by Roberto]Roberto - 4-21-2008 at 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by oxxo
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Originally posted by The Gull
Primo Tapia is the correct name for the area one mile south of Puerto Nuevo.
Ah-ha, since I cross at Tecate I don't ever drive through that area. Thanks.
AKA Cantamar. But, Ejido Primo Tapia is the correct name.
Is the Palm Grill the former Palmira?
Gypsy Jan - 4-21-2008 at 04:49 PM
Yes, I believe it is, but I only know it as the Palm Grill, when we started going there eight years ago. (Talking about the big palapa hut building
standing right there at the Cantamar/Primo Tapia exit off the pay road.
All the food is consistently good to excellent and the core wait staff and bartenders have been there for most of those eight years, which I would
guess says something about the place.
And yes, there is a very good lobster bisque, served with a puff pastry crown.
Over the years, we've pretty much tried everything on the menu - breakfast, lunch and dinner and I cannot think of any disappointing meals.
And, as far as being honest and safeguarding a lost wallet and the contents - yes, absolutely. That happened with us.bancoduo - 4-22-2008 at 07:35 AM
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The Happy Hour crowd has changed to mostly alky old farts
You must fit right in with the GUYS.The Gull - 4-22-2008 at 09:08 AM
Still stalking my posts.
I know I am your idol, but I never asked for your undying adoration.
Please make an investment in the little time you have left in your small & meaningless life other than being on all fours, following me.Roberto - 4-22-2008 at 06:24 PM
Thanks for the update. I walked in once, and was kind of turned off by the changes, and left. Sounds like I need to go back.bancoduo - 4-22-2008 at 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by The Gull
The Happy Hour crowd has changed to bar bags(Baja Gringas)
WHAT A GUY!Gypsy Jan - 4-22-2008 at 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by bancoduo
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Originally posted by The Gull
The Happy Hour crowd has changed to bar bags(Baja Gringas)
WHAT A GUY!
As a girl gull, if you are looking for love in all the wrong places, umm...The Gull - 4-22-2008 at 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
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Originally posted by bancoduo
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Originally posted by The Gull
The Happy Hour crowd has changed to bar bags(Baja Gringas)
I WANT A GUY LIKE GULL. I ADORE HIM.
As a girl gull, if you are looking for love in all the wrong places, umm...
Jan, Things aren't always as the appear. Take instance the syrupy comments from 'duo. I am embarassed by and for him.The Gull - 4-23-2008 at 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by Diver
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Originally posted by Hook
Recent fall of the dollar in relation to the peso? That's news to me. Seems like it's been hovering in the 10.8-11.2 range for a couple years now.
It rose to 10.46 last week.
The exchange rate at most places including banks last Friday was at 10.25 - 10.35. That is off from the lofty point of 11.0 seen earlier this year.
It doesn't compare to the free fall condition seen around 1987-88 or the one from the early 1990's.bajalera - 4-28-2008 at 03:14 PM
Let it be noted that Gull opened this thread pleasantly and remained civil for several posts.
You guys switched to Off-Top tactics on your own, with no provocation whatsoever.vgabndo - 4-28-2008 at 10:23 PM
Ah come on Lera...I would be PROVOKED by the notion that drinking three or four ounces of hard liquor prepared one for a drive in a car even if I WAS
a drinker. And, you don't have to be the Gull to get me so say so. I haven't done off-topic for almost a year...maybe the zebra has changed his
stripes.bajalera - 4-30-2008 at 04:45 PM
My mistake. From reading posts on this board, I had somehow assumed that DWIM [Driving While Imbibing Margaritas] was a basic Nomad trait. .The Gull - 5-1-2008 at 06:54 AM
Lera,
I was encouraging people to come to Baja to enjoy some of the places and things that whizz by the window too often when they come down. If they
cannot open their minds to the possibilities, it is their loss. The extreme lack of Gringo visitor while a blessing in many ways, is still hurting
the average local in what was already a marginal quality of life.
Extra bonus points to you for reading my posts and concluding that there are bad boys who must act like children on this section of the board. The
board monitoring normally gets them wiped off before long. But the attacks continue under the thin veils of some self justified "convictions".
For many months there was the incessant rehashing of US newspaper tripe over sporatic Baja major crime incidents over more than a year of locals on
locals. Worse occur daily in the US. When I raised the spectrum of the involvement of the US in the drug demand and the world's leader in violent
crime, I got the label of anti-American and cowardly piling on became the norm on the board.
As Orwell put it, "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others". I recall the sheep chanted that repeatedly at the end of the
book. There appears to be a hierarchy that has to happen when people gather, even to exchange ideas, like on this board. Lera, do you hear the Baa?
A "dyed in the wool" proselytizer with the thin moral argument centered on only one person, is transparent to even the blind.DENNIS - 5-1-2008 at 07:41 AM
Wha'd she say?
Dninkin' n Drivin'
Matt&Mutt - 5-6-2008 at 03:54 PM
Do you mean that it's actually LEGAL to drive in Baja without a properly prepared margarita or an open chilled cerveza on the dashboard ???
Hard to believe.
M&M
The Gull - 5-6-2008 at 05:56 PM
Brace yourself for the proselytizer. You appear to be in need of a good deliverance.bancoduo - 5-6-2008 at 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by The Gull
Brace yourself for the proselytizer. You appear to be in need of a good deliverance.
That sounds like a
threat. BE NICE
More THIN moral arguments
vgabndo - 5-6-2008 at 10:03 PM
Increasingly tough drunk driving laws and better enforcement in the US resulted in a decrease in alcohol related highway deaths in the 1980's. Since
the mid-1990's there hasn't been much progress. In 2006 seventeen thousand six hundred and two people died in the US in alcohol related traffic
crashes.
According to the US government, about three out of every ten people will, in their lifetime, experience an alcohol related crash. A significant
number of those will not have been drinking. Factoring in the cost in insurance pay-outs and lawyer fees, lost work, property damage, emergency
services and related costs, drunken drivers cost the economy about fifty billion dollars a year. How do you put a price on 17,000 mangled corpses?
These statistics are for a country with good roads, lots of honest cops, and constant reminders that DUI is not OK.
With the exception of the last, Baja California doesn't quite meet the standard.
It may be a safe assumption that the numbers would be more dismal south of the border.
(Statistics from GEICO direct vol. 22 number 2)
Illogical, but good proselytizing
The Gull - 5-7-2008 at 06:47 AM
We all know that something that is not measured and reported by the government does not provide for public to know the data. Nothing of the claim
that the drunk driving death toll would be more "dismal" south of the border will be proven with data, either to be true or total BS.
What can be done, is an estimate of the number of cars on the road compared to equal areas of the US - say like something the size of Southern
California. Would it be reasonable to assume that the roads (with the exception of the border crossings) are less crowded across the peninsula than
SoCal? If so, the frequency of hitting another car, drunk or not, would be different and maybe lower.
From the perspective of a bitter viewpoint regarding Baja, it has always been easier for US citizens to demean Mexico than to spend enough time in it
to learn about it. Xenophobia is practically incurable, but ignorance can be remedied.vgabndo - 5-7-2008 at 03:11 PM
OK Gull, you've won me over. I can now clearly see that driving under the influence of alcohol is not a bad thing at all. In fact because of the lower
population density in Mexico it probably should be encouraged; as you did. The people who don't drink and drive should have the basic intelligence to
stay the hell of the highway if they don't want their lives put in jeopardy by good decent, slurring, bleary-eyed fun lovers. What kind of fool would
expect the tail to not wag the dog.
I stand corrected and properly chastised.DENNIS - 5-7-2008 at 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by The Gull
From the perspective of a bitter viewpoint regarding Baja, it has always been easier for US citizens to demean Mexico than to spend enough time in it
to learn about it. Xenophobia is practically incurable, but ignorance can be remedied.
Xenophobia is a fear of outsiders, Gull. That wouldn't include a foriegners view of Baja. Your view of Baja is irrelevant to even you since you view
outsiders as insiders, transversly, by whim and vitriol. I'll bet you have a secluded stool at the bar across from the car wash. Who, but the
unknowing, could tolerate your hateful presence through a good margarita? Your favored seat must be next to a full length mirror.1000lbBlue - 10-16-2008 at 07:31 AM
Ill sit next to you and chat while my cruiser is cleaned of its baja crust and I wait with one of the last decent bajamaragaritas in hand before
entrance back into the ever so binding borders. I love the US but Baja is just so much better. I cant even drive past El Rosario without one beer to
calm my nerves for the myriad of grave stones and crazy catavina dips, dives, and turns. Traversed the one to Cabo and back 3 times and half as far
more than a dozen. I never drive drunk. Cautious and defensive always. Playing chicken with the semis is nerve rattling.
[Edited on 10-16-2008 by 1000lbBlue]BajaHawk - 10-18-2008 at 08:20 PM
