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Just Got Over Charged For Gas El Suazal

Chamaco - 5-31-2008 at 04:21 PM

Hi Guys, I just filled up my tank in El Sauzal Pemex (not the Colinas Del Mar Station). I put in 477 pesos worth to fill up and magically my credit card slip was charged 700 pesos. This has happened before 20 pesos over once. Before I would sign the slip, I made him give me 223 pesos change. He is a younger kid and wears a rosary around his neck. So instead of him getting a 5 pesos propino he got nothing. Like I do, always check your total at the pump and then match it with the receipt. If you guys go there beware of the future sacerdote.

[Edited on 5/27/08 by Chamaco]

DENNIS - 5-31-2008 at 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by Chamaco
always check your total at the pump and then match it with the receipt. If you guys go there beware of the future padre.

Good advice and good catch. You have to be sure the pump starts at zero as well. Some things never change.

CaboRon - 5-31-2008 at 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by Chamaco
always check your total at the pump and then match it with the receipt. If you guys go there beware of the future padre.

Good advice and good catch. You have to be sure the pump starts at zero as well. Some things never change.

I never pay with a card, only with cash pesos...

There is a three or four percent tarriff added when using cards.

CaboRon

Humboldt Chris and Robin - 5-31-2008 at 05:56 PM

well, I've been had every which way you can be had and no matter how hard I look, they are way smarter than me at those places that pull that stuff off. Luckily, most are just cool places to do business.

Of course, think of the national scam going on with those oil company execs in front of our spineless congress! Gotta love those Pemex kids!!!

bancoduo - 5-31-2008 at 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by Humboldt Chris and Robin
well, I've been had every which way you can be had and no matter how hard I look, they are way smarter than me at those places that pull that stuff off. Luckily, most are just cool places to do business.

Of course, think of the national scam going on with those oil company execs in front of our spineless congress! Gotta love those Pemex kids!!!

Good point, Except the Pemex kids have to kick back to EL JEFE.

Chamaco - 5-31-2008 at 08:36 PM

no tariff on my card, it just depends what kind of credit card you use and I get great conversion rates plus cash back gotta make sure your card is for traveling and that usually eliminates tarifs and penalties

postholedigger - 5-31-2008 at 10:23 PM

A guy I know swears by Capital One. Says they have the most idiotic business practices sometimes but their overseas rates are pretty good.

David K - 6-1-2008 at 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by Chamaco
no tariff on my card, it just depends what kind of credit card you use and I get great conversion rates plus cash back gotta make sure your card is for traveling and that usually eliminates tarifs and penalties

The card company may not add a tariff to your bill, but I would be surprised if that Pemex station didn't add 4% for using plastic (to cover what his bank or the card company charges him).

Baja Cactus (El Rosario) will accept plastic, but adds only what the bank/ card company chrges him.

durrelllrobert - 6-1-2008 at 09:03 AM

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.....seems to be a common practice to show you the calculator, the total pesos on pump and then multiply that amount by the posted exhange rate to arrive at your bill in US$. you get a duble whammy if you didn't notice that the $ amount is greater than the peso amount. at 11 to one the multipication instead of division costs you an additional 20%. :!:

gpm414 - 6-1-2008 at 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by postholedigger
A guy I know swears by Capital One. Says they have the most idiotic business practices sometimes but their overseas rates are pretty good.

I also use my Capital One card when outside the US, they give the current exchange and don't add a 3 or 4 percent fee for using it outside the US like other banks do.

sylens - 6-1-2008 at 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by CaboRon

I never pay with a card, only with cash pesos...

There is a three or four percent tarriff added when using cards.

CaboRon

not any more. the surcharge was dropped several weeks ago. paying with credit card is the ony way to go :tumble:

but remember, only get gas at cualli stations. they really are more reputable (honest)!! :spingrin:

postholedigger - 6-21-2008 at 10:43 AM

Yeah. The same thing happened to me yesterday. I went to the same gas station mentioned here and a younger looking guy (no rosary but rayban glasses) was the attendant. He seemed like a nice enough guy. But when he finished filling up and I handed him the card, he pointed out the 49 LITERS he put in before going to charge my card for the 340 pesos that the pump showed. He came back with a receipt for 490 pesos. Thanks to this particular thread, I had checked the peso total on the pump and was able to point out to the guy that he had charged me in litros not pesos. He seemed very apologetic at having been caught. He gave me back the difference in cash.

Anyways...any of ustedes who use tarjetas, be alert

fulano - 6-21-2008 at 11:06 AM

I never get screwed at the gasolineras. Here is my method. When I pull up to the pump I get out and tell the attendant:

"Estoy viendo usted y no mí chingas con la cuenta."

Works every time. You just have to be more huevon than them.

:lol:

DENNIS - 6-22-2008 at 08:29 AM

Use cash!!!!!

CaboRon - 6-22-2008 at 09:24 AM

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Originally posted by sylens

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Originally posted by CaboRon

I never pay with a card, only with cash pesos...

There is a three or four percent tarriff added when using cards.

CaboRon

not any more. the surcharge was dropped several weeks ago. paying with credit card is the ony way to go :tumble:

but remember, only get gas at cualli stations. they really are more reputable (honest)!! :spingrin:

The vendor adds the surcharge ..

CaboRon

DianaT - 6-22-2008 at 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Use cash!!!!!

Agreed---not just use cash, use pesos-----eliminates two potential problems.

Other than possible "bad" pumps, it has been a long time we since we have been ripped off---last time in Nogales, got distracted and our vehicle took about 10 gallons more than it held.

allanbartlett - 6-22-2008 at 11:29 AM

That's alright, we're paying $4.60 per gallon now here in California, LOL. I feel like I'm getting raped every time I have to fill up now.

toneart - 6-22-2008 at 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by sylens

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Originally posted by CaboRon

I never pay with a card, only with cash pesos...

There is a three or four percent tarriff added when using cards.

CaboRon

not any more. the surcharge was dropped several weeks ago. paying with credit card is the ony way to go :tumble:

but remember, only get gas at cualli stations. they really are more reputable (honest)!! :spingrin:

Exactly who was adding on the credit card surcharge, Pemex? I have been charged a 3% surcharge by hotels and other types of businesses too. Come to find out, now Visa and Mastercharge tack on 3% on all foreign charges. That means 6% in surcharges. Now I just get cash at ATMs. That works out to be the most practical. Just be aware of your surroundings like you would anywhere in the world, when carrying cash.

I always pay cash at Pemex stations, in pesos....and I stand right there and watch them like a hawk. The only thing I haven't been able to avoid la chinga is when the pump meter is running and when I drive out, the tank doesn't show 'full'. That happened three years ago, but not recently.

ADAPT!

Bronco - 6-22-2008 at 04:20 PM

Peso's alway's for everything, a little Spanish and life is good!!!!!!!!!!!

JaraHurd - 6-22-2008 at 09:29 PM

Do those guys that pump the gas expect a tip? How much is customary? Are they employees of the gas station or simply working for tips? The reason I ask is I tipped all the way down to Mulege last May (nothing exorbitant..) and an adult female that I tipped looked a little embarrassed. I wondered all the way back if I had offended her.

DENNIS - 6-23-2008 at 06:28 AM

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Originally posted by JaraHurd
Do those guys that pump the gas expect a tip? How much is customary? Are they employees of the gas station or simply working for tips? The reason I ask is I tipped all the way down to Mulege last May (nothing exorbitant..) and an adult female that I tipped looked a little embarrassed. I wondered all the way back if I had offended her.

We had a thread a while back that beat this to death so, since you weren't here, I'll give you my two cents worth.
Tip for service. Pumping the gas which you bought isn't service. Washing your windshield is. I used to give five Ps but, I've upped it to a buck. Can't take it with me.
Maybe you just imagined embarrasment from the attendantess. I'm sure she appreciated your tip unless she owned the place.

roamingthroughbaja - 6-23-2008 at 06:43 AM

When you work here and use your gas as an expense, you have to pay by credit card. We found a gas station where you pay in advance and pump it yourself. Never had a problem. No worries if you check the slip before you sign.

DonBaja - 6-24-2008 at 09:27 AM

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I was in Loreto about 6 months ago and start talking with the attendant at the Pemex in town. He told me he gets paid 120 pesos a day (8 hours) plus tips. I almost always tip 10 pesos and most of the time I don't let them wash my windshield because they want to climb onto the hood of the truck to try and reach it ....

The Chica at the Pemex as you enter Santa Rosalia from the north tried to rip me off for 100 pesos by starting the pump then stopping it at 100 pesos and then restarting it (without resetting it). After filling up she said I owed the amount on the pump plus the 100 pesos. I looked her directly in the eye and told her to go pound sand (not my exact words). I thought she was going to passout from embarassment,

I've never seen anyone turn white as fast as she did.

Getting fuel is only one of the many things I love about the thrill of going to Baja :cool:

Eugenio - 6-29-2008 at 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by fulano
I never get screwed at the gasolineras. Here is my method. When I pull up to the pump I get out and tell the attendant:

"Estoy viendo usted y no mí chingas con la cuenta."

Works every time. You just have to be more huevon than them.

:lol:

So the key is to be lazier than they are....

What do you say when they stop laughing?