steve5555 - 7-9-2008 at 09:01 PM
: : Every year we do a family camping trip to the hotel beach at PC. I was last in that area 12 months ago. I was looking at the latest fishing
report and saw that someone posted that the campground near the hotel has been closed. All of the showers, trashcans and pit toilets have been
removed. He said it is still possbile to camp but there is no infastructure and the garbage is piling up. Does anyone know anything about this to
confirm or deny?
: : My backup spot is to go the beach that is to the north and round the point. You can get there via the dump. It is soft, soft sand over there but
I think I can get in and out. No infastructore over there either but I think I can be self contained. Does anyone have an idea that this beach is
still open for camping? Thanks, steve
shari - 7-9-2008 at 09:03 PM
Russ showed us an awesome beach for camping...I look forward to doing that sometime when it isn't so hot...but it was a great spot...no services but
perfect for us.
Russ - 7-10-2008 at 07:25 AM
The beach I showed Juan and Shari is called San Marcos Tierra. It is one of my favorite places. There is a pretty good road in to the estuary
there.(photos) And hard ground to set up camp. There are a few visitors there from time to time so if you go there secure you stuff if you take long
walks on the 6 or so miles of beach.The beach I think Steve is talking about we call Deadmans. There is a better way in at the North end and hard
ground to set up camp and pretty good surf fishing in that corner of the cove. Swimming and diving is good too. Both are dry camps. Photo #1 is the
camp site a San Marcos Tierra. Last years storm knocked down the trees but it is still a nice camp area.
Edit: the estuary mouth is closed now so the water in the photo across to the beach is sand.
[Edited on 7-10-2008 by Russ]
Russ - 7-10-2008 at 07:29 AM
Google photo of San Marcos Tierra:
steve5555 - 7-10-2008 at 07:41 AM
Thanks for this, Russ. Do you have directions to the Tierra Marcos spot? I am also interested in how to get to the access road to the north end of
dead mans beach. Is it possible for you to show me both spots on google earth?
steve
steve5555 - 7-10-2008 at 07:42 AM
Hey, I wrote the abve without seeing your google earth shot! let me re-look at the pic.
steve5555 - 7-10-2008 at 07:52 AM
The place i am talking about instead of the Hotel campground is just to the left of WP11. We love that beach but it is soft sand and somewhat
exposed.
the graphic
steve5555 - 7-10-2008 at 07:55 AM
Russ - 7-10-2008 at 08:37 AM
Don't see WP11 put is "Nude Beach" in this Photo what you're talking about? That's a very sandy trail. It's been fenced off now and it took a really
good 4x4 could get to it before. Or a quad.
[Edited on 7-10-2008 by Russ]
Russ - 7-10-2008 at 08:47 AM
I'm going to try a Photo Bucket thing here of the area:
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Sharksbaja - 7-10-2008 at 02:23 PM
Try this:
On your keyboard: Hold down control key and toggle with the (-) and (+) keys.
Thanks Russ, those photos give way more "feel" than the Google shots.
Cypress - 7-10-2008 at 02:36 PM
Russ, Thanks for the photos.
There're a lot beaches down there around
Punta Chivato.
Russ - 7-10-2008 at 02:46 PM
I need to grab my new camera and make a photo run of them again. But everytime I head out to do that I don't make it very far before I just have to
stop and suck it all in. And before I know it I've run out of cold beers and have to head home. There are so many special places between here and San
Bruno. Posible maņana
tripledigitken - 7-10-2008 at 02:56 PM
Russ,
Are the facilities at the old camp ground (north of the Hotel) adjacent to "Hammerhead" no more? Last year they were still there but the perimeter to
the north was fenced by the small sand dunes.
thanks
Ken
steve5555 - 7-10-2008 at 03:53 PM
Russ, thanks for taking so much time with me. Yes, the beach I am refering to is just north of the Nude beach arrow. It looks like your pictures 2
& 3. I love the water and the sand at that spot. That is my plan at this point although i am somewhat concerned about taking my 4x4 and enclosed
trailer down on that soft sand. I do have a winch if I get stuck. But still I have a big rig for soft sand.
So, my question to you is, can I still get there via the dump and is that the best way to go? steve
steve5555 - 7-10-2008 at 03:55 PM
what is that creature in your first picture?
steve5555 - 7-10-2008 at 03:57 PM
I have a 15ft zodiac that I plan to launch and then moor offshore for the week. I have two nice bruce anchors that ought to do the job. steve
Russ - 7-10-2008 at 04:30 PM
Ken, No services at the Chivato beach camp --- Steve, Porpoise right up on the beach not ten feet from where we were standing. Maybe 20 of them came
in and went crazy right on shore. Nude beach is only accesible from the north camping beach or maybe behind the houses above it. Definitely not for a
camper and any thing other than a quad will get stuck. Deadmans is still ok from the dump road but very soft when you get to the beach. The weather
during the summer comes in fast and strong. Some gusts to 50mph and usually in the middle of the night. Your Zodiac would be a kite. Best bring it in.
This year, since Oct. we've had much more than our normal amount of wind and so far this summer there haven't been many days to go off shore. But in
shore there are lots of calmer areas and good rapala water. Water has been dirty too. Hopefully it'll all change soon.
steve5555 - 7-10-2008 at 05:11 PM
is dolphin beach cut off to camping? It seems like last year they were developong it.
steve5555 - 7-10-2008 at 05:33 PM
maybe I will bring some pvc rollers to bring the boat in and out
Russ - 7-10-2008 at 06:19 PM
Dolphin Cove has softer sand than any of the beaches I've been to. Haven't seen any beach campers there. I suppose you could camp there but a friend
was questioned by the caretaker from the 1st developer while on his quad. No one can block access to the beach. So I'm told. 
Some 6" pipe may work. Or a wheel kit.
steve5555 - 7-11-2008 at 06:56 AM
Russ,
OK, I will wipe dolphin cove off of my list. Is the access to dead mans beach any better at the north end than through the dump road?
Out of curiosity, do you know why they cut off the camping at the hotel campground?
Thanks again for helping me with this. I will be coming down from SD in a few weeks, do you want me to transport anything for you? steve
jahImpala3 - 7-12-2008 at 09:14 PM
Any additional information regarding the beach camping at Punta Chivato would be appreciated. My family and I have been camping there for over 20
years now. It's sad to hear they are shutting it down.
Russ - 7-13-2008 at 05:11 AM
jahImpala3: I'm sorry if I led anyone to think that the camping is closed. It's still OPEN but no services. Toilets, showers, trash, water all gone. I
have not heard any plans to shut the camping down. New there is a new owner/developer. Also a new restaurant/store that is open Oct. thru May or June.
Come and enjoy Punta Chivato!
[Edited on 7-13-2008 by Russ]
[Edited on 7-13-2008 by Russ]
Barry A. - 7-13-2008 at 09:15 AM
Russ----thanks for clearing that up---------we never used any of those facilities (other than the toilets) anyway, so for us it is still a beautiful
place to camp, swim, launch our "tin boats", and catch fish, and we ALWAYS carry out our own trash.
Barry
Russ - 7-13-2008 at 09:37 AM
Upside: those that choose to camp here are usually alone now.
steve5555 - 7-15-2008 at 03:39 PM
the reason we are turned off by the campground is that we HEARD that since the pit toilets and garbage cans are gone the area had gotten very filled
with toilet paper and grbage blowing around. Is this true or is it still decent enough to camp?
Russ - 7-15-2008 at 04:49 PM
Haven't heard that the beach is dirty.There is a kind of cove there in front of camp to anchor up a small boat and you could yank it out if the wind
picked up with a car and a rope. It's hot now so you shouldn't have a lot of other campers and those that come in would be like minded and good
neighbors. In case of an emergency there will be some permanent people to help out. Bring at least a portable VHF radio and monitor ch 72. Consider
that we have to all listen to you and change channels after you make contact. It can be very irritating listening to private chatter. I really think
PC camp ground is a good first destination.
Edit added info to photo
[Edited on 7-16-2008 by Russ]
Russ - 7-15-2008 at 07:21 PM
Check out this site for fish and some good info and pics from PC camping beach.
http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/baja-mexico-fishing-report...
palmeto99 - 7-15-2008 at 09:34 PM
Hey Russ,
Is the road into dolphin cove still soft and is a 4x4 required. I stayed out there a year ago and had a hard time getting my rig in there. The beach
was great and the caretaker was cool to us. The softest sand that I have ever touched. A bit windy at times but beautiful. 
Russ - 7-16-2008 at 06:46 AM
palmeto99, I'm glad to hear the caretaker was cool. I really think/hope he's there to remind people to cleanup after themselves. The only soft spots I
can remember are at both ends of the road. At the start of the road if you go over the rise and enter from there it is better. It's almost a "U" turn.
But a 4x4 is always a good idea as is a VHF/ Marine radio. The wind at Dolphin Cove is almost the opposite as here in Chivato. There are a lot of lots
available at Dolphin Cove.
....I friend came by yesterday that talks often with the new project manager of the company that will develop Punta Chivato. He told me that their
plan is to put a guard house at the fence that boarders my house and the start of their development. They will restrict use on the camping beach to
day use only (someday). But their concern now is a road and water from the hwy. No power poles yet, Thank God!
palmeto99 - 7-16-2008 at 07:11 AM
Thanks. There has been some talk of power out there for some time now. Have the Luhan(spelling) family divested themselve of their holdings out there
as of yet.? I had met one of the owners of the Dolphin Cove development. Nice lady from San Francisco. She was having trouble with the plant police
from La Paz in regards to her roads. Its only a matter of time before water and power makes it to your place as it there is not a more beautiful area
in Baja Sur.
Russ - 7-16-2008 at 08:55 AM
palmeto99
Have to agree with your thoughts about Chivato. But I like it the way it was before Raul came in. Most of his interests have been sold. Progress?
Edit:
Just "heard" that the camp beach is becoming dirty. Some vacationers at this time of year feel no responsibility to clean up after themselves or
handle there personal needs in a sanitary manor. The landowner has been requested to help out.
[Edited on 7-16-2008 by Russ]
palmeto99 - 7-16-2008 at 09:05 AM
that is indeed good news as he seemed to care more about the dollar instead of the residents there.(water)
They sure could build a house though
Solar and water delivery add something to the experience in my book and that will change when the power shows up. I hope the transition is a very slow
one..
Russ - 7-16-2008 at 02:05 PM
Oh, He still has control of the water but no problems for a long while. A Dios