BajaNomad - Mexico to begin supplying more gas to stations in Baja California

Mexico to begin supplying more gas to stations in Baja California

fdt - 7-10-2008 at 10:56 AM

http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/10072...
Note says that Pemex will start immediatly supplying gas stations with 10% more gas than last year

[Edited on 7-10-2008 by fdt]

DianaT - 7-10-2008 at 11:08 AM

Seems like lately a few people want to do nothing but search the web for any and all negative things they can find about all of Mexico---including Baja.

Good to be informed and know what to watch for and what to avoid, like maybe Highway 2000. Unless that is all hearsay. :lol:

But I wonder if the same people would do the same thing if they joined a forum about San Diego----boy, I know I could find lots of bad things about San Diego. Heck, we have quite a bit of crime right in little old Imperial Beach. Oh, we also have polluted beaches. :yes:

JMHO Diane

[Edited on 7-10-2008 by jdtrotter]

bancoduo - 7-10-2008 at 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by jdtrotter
Seems like lately a few people want to do nothing but search the web for any and all negative things they can find about all of Mexico---including Baja.

little old Imperial Beach. Oh, we also have polluted beaches.

From the TJ river (MEXICO) :lol:

Al G - 7-10-2008 at 12:08 PM

Diane...not sure I would call FDT's negative, at least I cannot see it.

Cypress - 7-10-2008 at 12:38 PM

I guess the operative word would be "uncertain" regarding the cost, supply or anything else related to fuel in Baja, USA or just about anywhere else.

Right now the oil producers have us by the short hairs.

If we, being the western world, can't overcome this issue, we deserve to be at the mercy of the oil producers.

The major oil producers are the Arab States, mercy is considered to be a weakness in their society.

fulano - 7-10-2008 at 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by fdt
http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/10072...
Note says that Pemex will start immediatly supplying gas stations with 10% more gas than last year

Far be it from me to tell you how to read in Spanish, but I think you read that article too quickly. It says that Pemex has reversed it decision to reduce the supply of gasoline 10% and will increase the supply 'above the levels of last year.'

It does not say it is increasing the supply by 10%, it just says it is increasing the supply above the 2007 levels. Since demand is running about 30% above 2007 levels, we are only left to guess what that all means.

fdt - 7-10-2008 at 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by fulano

Far be it from me to tell you how to read in Spanish

Yes, very far

When 10% just won't do...

fulano - 7-10-2008 at 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by fdt

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Originally posted by fulano

Far be it from me to tell you how to read in Spanish

Yes, very far

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Garantizan abasto de gasolina y Diesel en 30 días

Autor: Lizbeth DÍAZ

TIJUANA.- El presidente de la Asociación de Propietarios de Estaciones de Gasolina, Joaquín Aviña, dijo que está garantizado que en 30 días se regularice el abasto de gasolina en Baja California.
Lo anterior fue el acuerdo al que llegaron en la ciudad de México, la tarde de ayer, donde estuvieron presentes el director nacional de PEMEX, el gobernador del Estado y el Consejo Coordinador empresarial en Baja California.
La recuperación en el suministro partirá de tres puntos, el primero de ellos contempla ampliar el suministro desde la estación de PEMEX, incrementar la disposición normal y tener una representación permanente para que les informe la situacion de la paraestatal.
Aviña Sánchez, reconoció que estima que al menos se necesita un 30 por ciento de combustible en la región.

http://el-mexicano.info/nota.aspx?idNota=311193&esSecc=t...

CaboRon - 7-10-2008 at 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by jdtrotter
Seems like lately a few people want to do nothing but search the web for any and all negative things they can find about all of Mexico---including Baja.

Good to be informed and know what to watch for and what to avoid, like maybe Highway 2000. Unless that is all hearsay. :lol:

JMHO Diane

[Edited on 7-10-2008 by jdtrotter]

The only time I have ever had a problem in San Diego was when I was mistakenly pulled over for a felony stop ... bad ID on my car ... six cops each with weapons drawn and pointed at me ... quite an ass tightener.

And most of that polution is from the non existent sewage treatment of TJ ....

CaboRon

DianaT - 7-10-2008 at 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by Al G
Diane...not sure I would call FDT's negative, at least I cannot see it.

No, no---FDTs was positive! Gibson was correct.

Sorry if this was misread. Also, my reference to Highway 2000 was because I do believe Ferna on that one, and some think it is heresay.

Things don't always read the way we mean them. I really feel bad if Ferna thought I was calling his post negative.

Thank you, because if you read it that way, others might have also read it that way.

Diane

CaboRon - 7-10-2008 at 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fdt
http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/10072...
Note says that Pemex will start immediatly supplying gas stations with 10% more gas than last year

[Edited on 7-10-2008 by fdt]

And The Circle ... It Goes 'Round and 'Round ...

And The Left Hand ... etc. :lol:

bajabound2005 - 7-10-2008 at 05:41 PM

I would never take 2000 at night but this thread is about diesel...Bajamigo was just this afternoon looking to get some...in Chapultapec at the Estero Beach turn off he was told they were having problems with the pipas....maybe a response to his Oregon plates. In Maneadero he requested $200 pesos...the attendant asked if he wanted $300 to which he gave a quick, positive reply!

David K - 7-10-2008 at 06:09 PM

Since a lie (or a word out of context) repeated often enough will become the truth (Marx said that, right?), let me be clear on a the Blvd. 2000 comments I made in the past...

I said a post from any Nomad about the conditions of the Blvd. 2000 just traveled, is far MORE accurate than 'hearsay' from others... Myself, bajaguy, and others have posted about the Blvd. 2000 being a great shortcut to avoid the mess of Tijuana... and not a long a detour as going to Tecate. I hope every Nomad who uses Blvd. 2000 tells us how it was.

Ferna (a good friend of mine for the past 8 years and Tijuana resident) has posted he doesn't use that highway because of the reported problems.... That the problems he heard about keeps him from using it and he has recommended other avoid it, too. That's fair and worthy information, but is not a DIRECT experience from a Nomad.

The 'problems' seem to all be at night with gangs (or animals) on the road... Well, since Tijuana has gone to hell lately, I don't think driving through it at night is a much better idea... So, drive across the border region (Blvd. 2000 or Tijuana) during DAYLIGHT hours until law and order is returned to La Frontera. Make Ferna sleep better if you don't use Blvd. 2000 (because he does love us all)!

Personal Nomad trip reports are the BEST to keep up-to-date on conditions!

Hearsay (posting what someone else told a Nomad or the news reporter's version of events) would be the SECOND BEST way... but better than no news at all! :light:

[Edited on 7-11-2008 by David K]

Just for the record

CaboRon - 7-11-2008 at 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Since a lie (or a word out of context) repeated often enough will become the truth (Marx said that, right?),

[Edited on 7-11-2008 by David K]

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political , economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of it's powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." - Joseph Goebbels ...

"A lie told often enough becomes the truth" - Vladimir Lenin

Pescador - 7-12-2008 at 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by jdtrotter
Seems like lately a few people want to do nothing but search the web for any and all negative things they can find about all of Mexico---including Baja.

Good to be informed and know what to watch for and what to avoid, like maybe Highway 2000. Unless that is all hearsay. :lol:

JMHO Diane

[Edited on 7-10-2008 by jdtrotter]

I am only guessing here but I suspect that Diane was referring more to Fulano's fascination with quoting bad news about Mexico. On the first page in the Baja News, there are 30 topics and 11 of those were first posted by Fulano. That may be pretty indicative of a predisposition. :smug:

fdt - 7-12-2008 at 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by Pescador
Fulano's fascination with quoting bad news about Mexico. On the first page in the Baja News, there are 30 topics and 11 of those were first posted by Fulano. That may be pretty indicative of a predisposition. :smug:

fulano - 7-12-2008 at 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by Pescador
I am only guessing here but I suspect that Diane was referring more to Fulano's fascination with quoting bad news about Mexico. On the first page in the Baja News, there are 30 topics and 11 of those were first posted by Fulano. That may be pretty indicative of a predisposition. :smug:

I see you are from Colorado. Just for the heck of it, I pulled up the first page of todays Denver Post.

http://www.denverpost.com/

Of the 10 news headlines on the top of the page, 7 are bad news. Maybe you can detect a pattern here. If you just want to read "happy thoughts" about Baja, I have a link for you:

http://www.bajatimes.com/index.asp

Enjoy your bliss.

fulano - 7-12-2008 at 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by fdt

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Ferna, the tourists will come back to Baja when Mexico gives them a REASON to come back.

Your beating the drum won't bring them back anymore than my posting the news reported by your own Mexican newspapers here on this message board will keep them away.

Americans visited Mexico for the same reason they go to the Circus or the County Fair. It was a reasonably priced, entertaining, interesting diversion. When Mexico returns to that model, the tourists will be back. You guys are your own worst enemy. If you continue to place the blame for your problems on your neighbor to the North, instead of stepping up to the bar and taking responsibility for your own country, you will continue to have problems.

Just look at your own post that I am responding to. Are you trying to lay the blame for your failure to attract more tourists on me?

Be a mensch.

mtgoat666 - 7-12-2008 at 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by fulano

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Originally posted by fdt

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You are telling FDT to "be a mensch."
Odd statement.
Fulano, you don't appear to be a mensch.

Cypress - 7-12-2008 at 01:07 PM

:lol:

Tourists will go anywhere, even New York City! :lol:

DianaT - 7-12-2008 at 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by CaboRon

Quote:

Originally posted by David K
Since a lie (or a word out of context) repeated often enough will become the truth (Marx said that, right?),

[Edited on 7-11-2008 by David K]

Thanks for the correction. When I went home, I remembered it was Goebbels and not Hitler---

The other similar quote from GW Bush

Wednesday, June 01, 2005
"See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."

-At a Conversation on Strengthening Social Security, May 24, 2005, Rochester, NY

Diane

[Edited on 7-12-2008 by jdtrotter]

Pescador - 7-12-2008 at 01:26 PM

Holy Cow, is this a re-incarnation of Minnow?

Another "fulano" with a predisposition

fulano - 7-12-2008 at 02:08 PM

http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/12072...

"State deputy Carlos Barboza said today that the work of the State Ministry of Public Security has not been successful because the people who are in charge of the Tijuana Public Security Secretariat are not capable.

In a meeting with el Grupo Tijuana, the deputy pointed out that Jesus Alberto Capella Ibarra, secretary of Municipal Public Security, is a public relations professional who does not have the ability to establish a strategy or provide security in Tijuana.

He also added that Mayor Jorge Ramos Hernandez erred in appointing him."

Cypress - 7-12-2008 at 02:33 PM

I'm predisposed to many things! :lol:

So is everybody else.

Comes under the heading of "learning".

fulano - 7-12-2008 at 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by grover
Pretty handy with an assault rifle, though. :lol:

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jan/20/local/me-tijuana20

I like this part:

"Capella, a chubby, soft-spoken 36-year-old with no police training, is at the center of the storm. He moves around the city in a six-car convoy with 20 bodyguards. He can’t even stop at a taco stand without scaring off customers who fear gunmen will drive up and blast away."

rts551 - 7-12-2008 at 05:45 PM

Ful

If you dislike Mexico that much. Why do you keep posting on Mexico sites. Does it make you feel better. Don't tell me you really like Mexico and are trying to improve it.

fulano - 7-12-2008 at 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by rts551
Ful

If you dislike Mexico that much. Why do you keep posting on Mexico sites. Does it make you feel better. Don't tell me you really like Mexico and are trying to improve it.

I really like Mexico and I am trying to improve it.

p.s. I also have relatives who are Mexican and live in Mexico and who like Mexico and would like to see it improve.

p.p.s. I you dislike me, why don't you just ignore me? Does it make you feel better to tell me to shut up?

p.p.p.s. This is the only Mexico site I post on. All the other "fulano's" you see on other Mexican sites are other fulano's.

rts551 - 7-12-2008 at 06:22 PM

Nice to hide behind a Ful isn't it. And yes it makes me feel better. From what I have seen you have no idea what Mexico is really like.

fulano - 7-12-2008 at 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by rts551
Nice to hide behind a Ful isn't it. And yes it makes me feel better. From what I have seen you have no idea what Mexico is really like.

I suppose it is not better or worse than hiding behind a rts551. OK, tell me what Mexico is REALLY LIKE. Tell me in Spanish.

I'm all ears.

[Edited on 7-13-2008 by fulano]

rts551 - 7-12-2008 at 06:53 PM

You are so ful of it. How do you know about the other Mexico sites and other ful's. I am not quite sure whether people as unhappy as you should be ignored or not.

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Originally posted by fulano

Quote:

Originally posted by rts551
Nice to hide behind a Ful isn't it. And yes it makes me feel better. From what I have seen you have no idea what Mexico is really like.

I suppose it is not better or worse than hiding behind a rts551. OK, tell me what Mexico is REALLY LIKE.

I'm all ears.

CaboRon - 7-12-2008 at 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by Cypress
:lol:

Tourists will go anywhere, even New York City! :lol:

You may laugh, BUT New York City is one of the three greatest cities in the USA .... and I include San Francisco and Chicago ...

A vibrant exciting place to live or visit. Maybe you have never been there ... I am probably biased because of my life in the entertainment business .... and I really love a good show.

CaboRon

CaboRon

fdt - 7-12-2008 at 09:58 PM

From the LA Times article; "Capella, a chubby, soft-spoken 36-year-old with no police training, is at the center of the storm. He moves around the city in a six-car convoy with 20 bodyguards. He can’t even stop at a taco stand without scaring off customers who fear gunmen will drive up and blast away."
Full-ano just goes on hear-say because it's just an article on the paper and not a first hand report of a Nomad. This sayed and as a first hand report form a Nomad (me) we know that Capella does stop at taco stands and even 2 nights ago he was along with myself and my 2 girls and also about 1000 other Tijuana residents sitting on a table at Parque Teniente Guerrero from about 9:30 to 1AM and had no body guards. at the same table was mayor Jorge Ramos and other people. Not one person was afraid to aproach them and as oposed to other high profile people that have guards arround them, these gentelmen had none close, they were accesible to anyone. As for chubby and soft spoken I can name several on this board that fit the same description, myself included. This is a first hand report from a Nomad not a full ano report
Edited to write ano, by mistake I had writen anus.

[Edited on 7-13-2008 by fdt]

fulano - 7-12-2008 at 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by rts551
You are so ful of it. How do you know about the other Mexico sites and other ful's. I am not quite sure whether people as unhappy as you should be ignored or not.

You must have been very morose when you started this topic:

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=18918#pid1648...

:rolleyes:

fulano - 7-13-2008 at 02:07 AM

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Originally posted by fdt
yada, yada, yada....
Edited to write ano, by mistake I had writen anus.

Let's take it by the numbers, Ferna:

1) November 27, 2007 - 20 gunmen opened fire on the house of the chairman of the Citizen Council on Public Security (Consejo Ciudadano de Seguridad Pública) in the early hours of Tuesday morning. The police took half-an-hour to respond, according to the report, despite the fact that Capella Ibarra’s house is located very close to the local police station.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xbQRCpejkk

2) December 1, 2007 - Capella Ibarra takes office as city’s secretary for public security

3) January 4, 2008 - President Claderon sends 3,300 federal troops and police to TJ.

3) April 28, 2008 - ABC news interview with Capella in TJ. Note all the hearsay bodyguards around him photographed by the news crew.
http://tinyurl.com/6fumx9
(Watch the other 2 videos on the same link)

4) July 13, 2008 - Interview @juarez.com with Capella :

"Cómo es un día habitual, suyo. Cómo vive un funcionario con precio en la cabeza

Pues no, es que… traer la cantidad de escoltas que trae uno es prácticamente perder tu vida privada, es estar dedicados 24 horas a un tema, con bastantes problemas, con múltiples enemigos por todos lados y obviamente se requiere una conciencia personal, un valor personal y meterle un sentido de pasión a esto, sino sería una locura."

"Cuántas amenazas ha recibido en estos cuatro meses

Son impresionantes, pero pues es un tema del cual se tiene que ir acostumbrando uno y no amedrentarse por ese tipo de llamados o de mensajes, sino estaría uno paralizado."

http://www.arrobajuarez.com/notas.php?IDNOTA=7513&IDSECC...

Cuando usted le dice mentiras como ésta, es lo mismo que decir que los estadounidenses son estúpidos. No hace pendejo Ferna, si quieres jugar asi, mejor metelo en el ano.

[Edited on 7-13-2008 by fulano]

Capt. George - 7-13-2008 at 03:33 AM

New York City

The Number One Tourist City in The World

fdt - 7-13-2008 at 08:25 AM

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Originally posted by fulano
Let's take it by the numbers, Ferna:

fullano; I am just saying it as I see it. How about you?

[Edited on 7-13-2008 by fdt]

CaboRon - 7-13-2008 at 08:32 AM

rts551 - 7-13-2008 at 09:06 AM

IF I was morose (gloomily or sullenly ill-humored, as a person or mood.) then given your track record that really doesn't say much for you does it? Get a life Ful. You are way to unhappy a person. Viva Mexico.

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Originally posted by fulano

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Originally posted by rts551
You are so ful of it. How do you know about the other Mexico sites and other ful's. I am not quite sure whether people as unhappy as you should be ignored or not.

You must have been very morose when you started this topic:

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=18918#pid1648...

:rolleyes:

Barry A. - 7-13-2008 at 09:10 AM

-----just for the record, FULANO, I find your posts informative and interesting-------thank you for your contributions to this board.

barry

fulano - 7-13-2008 at 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by fdt
fullano; I am just saying it as I see it. How about you?

I was just saying it as Alberto Capella sees it (published July 13, 2008):

http://tinyurl.com/6gc8ua

"Cómo es un día habitual, suyo. Cómo vive un funcionario con precio en la cabeza

[Capella] Pues no, es que… traer la cantidad de escoltas que trae uno es prácticamente perder tu vida privada, es estar dedicados 24 horas a un tema, con bastantes problemas, con múltiples enemigos por todos lados y obviamente se requiere una conciencia personal, un valor personal y meterle un sentido de pasión a esto, sino sería una locura."

[Translation:]
How is your usual day? How does an official live with a price on his head?

[Capella] Well, no, that is… having so many bodyguards one practically loses his private life, to be dedicated 24 hours a day to one issue, with so many problems, with multiple enemies everywhere, this obviously requires a self-awareness, a personal set of values and a sense of passion for this, without which it would be madness.

Now, Ferna, here is a good op-ed piece from today's "El Sol de Tijuana" that covers the basic issues succinctly. When you read it, try to notice how the writer's points line up so neatly with what I have been saying.

http://www.oem.com.mx/elsoldetijuana/notas/n769328.htm

...and do try to remember that the writer is a Mexican who lives in Tijuana. It sure is interesting to read what somebody who doesn't get his paychecks from the tourist trade has to say.
:rolleyes:

tripledigitken - 7-13-2008 at 12:36 PM

Fulano,

You stated awhile back that your reason for posting here was to counter the BS about Baja. I'm paraphasing of course. I think your posts would be so much more meaningfull if some involved personal experience, what say you?

I mean really the majority of visitors to this site fall into 3 catagories:

Those that live in Baja

Those that visit Baja

Those that are planning to go to Baja

By your own account you don't fall into any one of those catagories, do you?

Again, I ask why are you really here? :?:

Ken

fulano - 7-13-2008 at 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by tripledigitken
I mean really the majority of visitors to this site fall into 3 catagories:

Those that live in Baja

Those that visit Baja

Those that are planning to go to Baja

By your own account you don't fall into any one of those catagories, do you?

Yes, I do. Do you have anymore questions for me, Ken? Perhaps you would like to discuss Baja sometimes, instead of me? Or perhaps we should start a "Discuss Fulano" message board?

tripledigitken - 7-13-2008 at 12:55 PM

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Do you have anymore questions for me, Ken? Perhaps you would like to discuss Baja sometimes, instead of me? Or perhaps we should start a "Discuss Fulano" message board?

No more questions Ful. I don't expect an answer from you. As to your narcissistic suggestion of a message board, I don't think so.

Ken

fdt - 7-13-2008 at 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by fulano
It sure is interesting to read what somebody who doesn't get his paychecks from the tourist trade has to say.
:rolleyes:

If you are refering to me full ano, you got it right. I receive no paycheck from tourism.

fulano - 7-13-2008 at 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by fdt
If you are refering to me full ano, you got it right. I receive no paycheck from tourism.

I'm sorry then. I must have been mistaken. You see at the bottom of all of your posts your signature block links to two webpages:
http://ultimatebaja.com/
http://paramitijuana.com/

and when I look those up on WhoIs, it reports they are owned by your wife, Theresa Simone Vanover-Garcia. And then when I actually go to the website it says:

"My name is Fernando Garcia...Ultimate Baja strives to offer the highest quality of services on the market today. Since the 1980’s, we have provided superior service to our customers and have assisted them with reservations and they’re [sic] travel needs."

I just don't understand how I could have possibly come to the conclusion that your paycheck comes from tourism, specifically Baja tourism. Mea culpa.

[p.s. In case you are too dense to figure it out, the preceding was sarcasm.]

Fernando, don't you think it is about time you stopped pandering to the gringos? We are not all stoooopid, ya know?

fdt - 7-13-2008 at 02:11 PM

Ok full ano it does say that but I am yet to receive a paycheck, last booking I did was in February 2002

fulano - 7-13-2008 at 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by fdt
Ok full ano it does say that but I am yet to receive a paycheck, last booking I did was in February 2002

OK, right. Gotcha. These people who advertise on your website and who say they sponsor you don't actually GIVE you any money. Right?

fdt - 7-13-2008 at 02:51 PM

No, no money at all, ever, and I have not updated the site since we went full blast with the totaly free paramitijuana site, ofering free tours, free stickers, free radio, free etc's. Thanks for reminding me, I dont think they have done those tours for over a year now :lol:

Oh and BTW try to reduce pictures before posting, your'e just making it more dificult. Wow, another job I wouldn't hire you to do. Your really Full Ano, were does it say they sponsor me, oh sorry I forgot you are not a good translator :lol:

[Edited on 7-13-2008 by fdt]

fulano - 7-13-2008 at 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by fdt
Your really Full Ano, were does it say they sponsor me, oh sorry I forgot you are not a good translator :lol:

[Edited on 7-13-2008 by fdt]

I wasn't translating, it says right there in English on the post "Sponsors [sic] by"

Can't you even read your own website?

...oh and by the way, after I give you that English lesson on the difference between:

there
their
they're

I'll give you an English lesson on the differences between:

your
you're
yore

Boy, I'm really going to be busy .
:rolleyes:

fdt - 7-13-2008 at 03:05 PM

sponsored by Fernando? I just can't find that. You can't even tell the difference between Fideicomiso and Fernando. I've had people call me Francisco but never Fideicomiso.
I wonder if there is a San Fideicomiso :lol:

MexicoGringoGuy - 7-13-2008 at 03:39 PM

You know what Fulano.. Fernando is just a very proud citizen of Tijuana.. One that actually wants to make things better, one that is NOT leaving (like you say in your other post) he is sticking it out and trying to fight.. Yes, he may take offense to things that I wouldnt, and things that I cant understand Why he would take offense, BUT its because He is VERY proud of Tijuana, and really loves his City! Yes Fernando will do MUCH better financially IF Tijuana tourism boomed.... BUT the thing that you forget is that Almost ALL of Tijuana would do better also.... So Fernando is NOT alone in that.. I dont think his reason for defending TJ is because he wants more money or a "PayCheck"

Tijuana, along with Mexico Has and always has had many problems, BUT it also has MANY positives.. Right now is a bad time for Tijuan, BUT it will get better with people like Fernado who actually care.. and If people like you shut up and quit trying to make things look worste than what they are!

By the way, I have a question??? You don't live here right?? A little birdie told me something about somekind of Fruad or something you were involved in?? Just curious... Maybe I am mistaken.. could be one of the other Fulano's on the other boards...

fulano - 7-13-2008 at 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by fdt
sponsored by Fernando? I just can't find that.

Say Fernando, you havn't been samplying the inventory from the narcomenuedo's have you?

This does appear on YOUR website, does it not? Does not "patrocinado por" directly translate as "sponsored by"? Do you not also have it there in poor English?

Do I have to rub your nose in it?

fulano - 7-13-2008 at 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by lencho
if you're interested in a credibility contest, you've not a chance against a real person like Fernando.
Saludos-- Larry

It's always good to know that Fernando sits on the top of the food chain for credibility in Tijuana.

fulano - 7-13-2008 at 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by MexicoGringoGuy
By the way, I have a question??? You don't live here right?? A little birdie told me something

Asked and answered about a half-dozen times in the past few months. There is a search button on the upper left-hand corner of this page. You'll find the answer in a few minutes.

Not that the old biddies here would ever believe it.

MexicoGringoGuy - 7-13-2008 at 04:15 PM

He may not.. BUT he is MUCH much higher than you.. I don't know you, BUT I know him... I know of you from what I have heard both on this Board and by other means, SO I am confident in saying HE is WAY ahead of you in creditability about Tijuana, and furthermore any Creditability (just like I said I have heard alot)

fdt - 7-13-2008 at 04:22 PM

OMG full ano you want to teach me? :lol:

That is another job I would not give you, to read english, don't you know what : means? For someone with ano in his/her name how can you not know what a colon is :lol:

fulano - 7-13-2008 at 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by fdt
For someone with ano in his/her name how can you not know what a colon is :lol:

Sure I know what a colon is. It is the anatomical part directly above your ano.

fdt - 7-13-2008 at 04:38 PM

:rolleyes:

David K - 7-13-2008 at 09:21 PM

I hope this stops real soon...

Fulano, instead of joining a Baja family (Nomads) and attacking one of its long time members (who has gone above and beyond the duty anyone could hope for, in kindness and hospitality).... perhaps you should cool it and let us get to know YOU first? :saint:

What is your purpose in posting here since you joined? People come here to learn about Baja travel or to share what they have discovered... for the most part. What are your favorite Baja activities or destinations? :cool:

Picking fights with your brother Nomads is a poor way to get acceptance. :rolleyes:

How about finding nice things to say about Ferna, or say nothing about people you have never met...
:light:

Cheers!

Bajafun777 - 7-14-2008 at 01:22 AM

Fulano, people are known for what they do, what they know, and what they say. Fernando is someone I have met several times and he has always been someone that quickly assists others with information if requested. He is someone that is humorous, outgoing, friendly, and knows an enormous amount of information to help you out while visiting or living in Mexico. Fernando did not make what is happening in and around TJ happen nor is he supportive of these lowlifes that seek to harm not only people in TJ but tourist alike. Having said that some of the most terrible things done by these piece of crap lowlifes like beheading others has not happened yet to a tourist and I pray it does not. Nobody should have to die by such a terrible action done to them. If somebody like Fernando wants to try and at least show the other side of TJ and its true people just trying to live and let live what is the harm. I have been going into Mexico for over 40 years and granted this is probably the worst I have seen it, I know it will get controlled sooner or later. Hopefully, it will be fixed sooner than later but telling people to throw in the towel is not making it come to an end any "sooner." Fulano, you are citing some things that are wrong with Mexico but do not let your frustration spill over on ones that are trying to keep the "fires of hope" going for those that want Mexico to be what it was and can be. No Fight----Be Happy_____No Hurry,No Worry, Just Fun is real and can be there if we stay focused and stay safe!! Just for the record Fernando and his wife have always been a source to find fun but also to stay safe!!! Later, bajafun777