BajaNomad - Why so negative?(4 plus pages later i think we know why)Enough already!

Why so negative?(4 plus pages later i think we know why)Enough already!

fishbuck - 7-22-2008 at 07:27 PM

Why does everyone seem to be in such a funk?
Sure there are a few problems. I don't think anyone is in denial but it ain't all bad.
Fishing is HOT everywhere just about. Fuel is plentiful and cheap. Beer is cold, ladies are beautiful and hot.
LIFE IS GOOOOD! ENJOY IT!

[Edited on 7-24-2008 by fishbuck]

Bob and Susan - 7-22-2008 at 07:28 PM

it's HOT everywhere :lol:

fulano - 7-22-2008 at 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fishbuck
Why does everyone seem to be in such a funk?... Fuel is plentiful and cheap.

Say, what? Did you just get here from the Land That Time Forgot?
:lol:

fishbuck - 7-22-2008 at 07:44 PM

I see a few spot shortages here and there. And it's still around $2.50/gal isn't it.
It's not a problem.
Why do you paint such a gloomy picture all the time?
Some people get a thrill off of creating a bunch of negative drama.
Are you a "Drama Queen" fulano?

Just the way it is

Lee - 7-22-2008 at 07:51 PM

I think arguing the negativity is negative rather than reporting it.

I for one do not see things negatively -- probably never will. I don't think of Baja that way and don't see it that way. Bad news sells and people will probably believe the worst anyway -- because I think that's how alot of people are. For the rest, it's Baja as usual.

Sharksbaja - 7-22-2008 at 07:56 PM

Nomad factual (I hope)but mostly bad news, reporter.

Question to all: Do you smile when you bring up and talk about Baja off the net?

If not, a pity, lo siento!

fulano - 7-22-2008 at 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fishbuck
I see a few spot shortages here and there. And it's still around $2.50/gal isn't it.
It's not a problem.
Why do you paint such a gloomy picture all the time?
Some people get a thrill off of creating a bunch of negative drama.
Are you a "Drama Queen" fulano?

Hey fishbuck, if you read the news instead of the jokes on the bar napkins during happy hour, you would know that 60% of the gas stations in Baja are out of gas. You do read Spanish, don't you?

http://el-mexicano.info/nota.aspx?idNota=312451&esSecc=t...

"DESABASTO DE GASOLINA EN EL 60 POR CIENTO DE LAS ESTACIONES EN LA REGIÓN"

So, fishbuck, since part of the raison d'etre for this board is to give current information on Baja to travelers, what good does an ill-informed comment like: "Fuel is plentiful and cheap" do anybody?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[Edited on 7-23-2008 by fulano]

bajabound2005 - 7-22-2008 at 08:56 PM

FIshbuck, come on back to our place for a visit!

Bajaboy - 7-22-2008 at 09:18 PM

You can read all the newspapers you want, I was just in Baja and encountered no shortages. Just my real-life experience.

Zac

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Originally posted by fulano

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fishbuck - 7-22-2008 at 09:22 PM

June 24, 2008 - 5:34PM
BY STEPHANIE SANCHEZ, SUN STAFF WRITER
SAN LUIS RIO COLORADO, Son. - Some gas stations here have experienced a gasoline and diesel shortage partly because they haven't been able to keep up with the high demand of American motorists who are crossing the border to take advantage of cheaper prices.

PEMEX gas stations workers said they hope their fuel supplies normalize this week after delays in fuel shipments from Rosarito, Baja Calif., and high demand from American motorists combined to cause shortages.

It appears to be temporary and limited to the border. Not a problem.

fulano - 7-22-2008 at 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by fishbuck
June 24, 2008 - 5:34PM

It appears to be temporary and limited to the border. Not a problem.

It appears to be a month-old news article, and did you happen to notice they were talking about Sonora?. That's your problem.

[Edited on 7-23-2008 by fulano]

fulano - 7-22-2008 at 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bajaboy
You can read all the newspapers you want, I was just in Baja and encountered no shortages. Just my real-life experience.

Zac

Hey, that's good to know, Zac, 'cause your posts and blog say you were last in Baja about 10 days ago and the article I read was from yesterday. You should update your blog for the trip you took to Baja after you got back on the 13th, since your information is more current.
:rolleyes:

Bajaboy - 7-22-2008 at 10:54 PM

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Hey Fulano-

I learned a long time ago not to believe everything that's in the paper. I'm not about to listen to advice from a poster that gets his info from the Internet. I'll bet you told anyone that would listen that Saddam Hussein had WMDs as well.

Get a life![

quote]Originally posted by fulano

Quote:

Originally posted by Bajaboy
You can read all the newspapers you want, I was just in Baja and encountered no shortages. Just my real-life experience.

Zac

[Edited on 7-23-2008 by Bajaboy]

Bajaboy - 7-22-2008 at 10:58 PM

Hey Fulano-

Pre-emptive: Blah, blah, blah....I don't really care what you have to say.

Zac

fishbuck - 7-22-2008 at 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by fulano

Quote:

Originally posted by fishbuck
June 24, 2008 - 5:34PM

It appears to be temporary and limited to the border. Not a problem.

It appears to be a month-old news article, and did you happen to notice they were talking about Sonora?. That's your problem.

[Edited on 7-23-2008 by fulano]

I looked in google and yahoo. Couldn't find any reports of fuel shortages. Sorry :cool:

fulano - 7-22-2008 at 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by fishbuck
I looked in google and yahoo. Couldn't find any reports of fuel shortages. Sorry :cool:

I looked too.

http://www.laprensa-sandiego.org/current/Pemex.071808.htm

I only posted the English one.

rpleger - 7-22-2008 at 11:31 PM

Lots of fuel in Mulegé...Lots of Mexican tourist...Lots of fish in the sea...Everything is good...Hot tho...

fulano - 7-23-2008 at 12:34 AM

En incertidumbre gasolineras por desabasto

Leyendas como “fuera de servicio”, “precaución descargando combustible”, interminables filas de conos anaranjados bloqueando las entradas; estaciones en aparente abandono y despachadores, limpiando residuos de aceite y gasolina, en espera de que llegue una nueva pipa cargada de combustible, es parte del panorama que viven algunas gasolineras de la ciudad desde la madrugada del domingo.

Aunque algunos gasolineros de la localidad aseguraron estar preparados para hacerle frente al desabasto de combustible, que vive la región desde hace algunas semanas, a otros no les ha quedado de “otra” más que sentarse a esperar el cargamento.

De acuerdo con sondeo realizado por FRONTERA, despachadores de cinco estaciones, ubicadas en diversas zonas, coincidieron que el desabasto de gasolina PREMIUM que actual enfrentan se debe al proceso de entrega-recepción por parte de la estación Pemex, situada en Rosarito.

“Estamos batallando con los tiempos de entrega, nos están surtiendo una vez o dos veces a la semana de acuerdo con un programa que ellos están manejando, a mi a veces me falta un tipo de combustible pero últimamente nos mandan una pipa de una y una de otra”, explicó Luis Fernando Salgado Plat, encargado de Eco Gasolineras.

Además de la incertidumbre en que viven los encargados y empleados de gasolineras, FRONTERA constató que el desconcierto que vive la población va en aumento, pues aunque los hechos dicen más que las palabras, en ninguna sola estación se observaron cartelones anunciando la falta de combustible.

[last sentence]In addition to the uncertainty experienced by managers and employees of gas stations, FRONTERA found that the bewilderment of the people is increasing, because although the facts speak louder than words, in not one single gas station were there banners announcing the lack of fuel.

http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/22072...

[Edited on 7-23-2008 by fulano]

fishbuck - 7-23-2008 at 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by fulano

Quote:

Originally posted by fishbuck
I looked in google and yahoo. Couldn't find any reports of fuel shortages. Sorry :cool:

I looked too.

http://www.laprensa-sandiego.org/current/Pemex.071808.htm

I only posted the English one.

I saw this one but I guess I didn't read any shortage into it.
My spin:
They are cutting the fuel supply near the border. They don't want the subidized fuel going into the US. So they might run out of gas there.
The is plenty of fuel and no lines in Rosarito. I never fuel up until I get to Ensenada.
So from Rosarito on south plenty on fuel.
Plus recent field reports from a reliable source (Bajaboy) indicate no fuel shortage.

I did like the part about ladies trading sex for gasoline.
I always have a full tank of fuel in my truck so if any lady Nomads need help...

[Edited on 7-23-2008 by fishbuck]

palmeto99 - 7-23-2008 at 04:40 AM

Ignorance is always in a state of bliss.... :cool:

fdt - 7-23-2008 at 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fishbuck
Some people get a thrill off of creating a bunch of negative drama.

Quote:

Originally posted by Bajaboy
You can read all the newspapers you want, I was just in Baja and encountered no shortages. Just my real-life experience.

Zac

Bajaboy and fishbuck are right, there is plenty of gasoline, at least here in Tijuana. I've seen no shortage.
I'm not quoting a newspaper, it's real, I live here.

BajaGringo - 7-23-2008 at 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by fdt
Bajaboy and fishbuck are right, there is plenty of gasoline, at least here in Tijuana. I've seen no shortage.
I'm not quoting a newspaper, it's real, I live here.

Fernando, stop confusing us with the facts...

:lol:

k-rico - 7-23-2008 at 08:33 AM

I go through TJ to and from San Diego at least weekly and always buy gas in playas, it's a quick detour and there's a modern plaza for other shopping and ATMs for pesos, and I usually drive right up to the pump, sometimes there's one or two cars ahead of me, and fill the tank. No problems so far.

fdt - 7-23-2008 at 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by BajaGringo
Fernando, stop confusing us with the facts...

:lol:

Sorry

DianaT - 7-23-2008 at 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by fdt

Quote:

Originally posted by BajaGringo
Fernando, stop confusing us with the facts...

:lol:

Sorry

Yes, FDT, shame on you. :lol:

We just drove back and saw no problems with gas and we also saw some tankers in Encenada.

But then again, we did not inspect every gas station, nor did we inspect those tankers---they could have been empty. :yes:

Diane

meme - 7-23-2008 at 11:39 AM

Seems to be no shortage here in San Felipe. Got gas yesterday with no problem!

fulano - 7-23-2008 at 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by fdt

Quote:

Originally posted by BajaGringo
Fernando, stop confusing us with the facts...

:lol:

Sorry

You need to tell El Sol de Tijuana to stop printing those lies.

http://www.oem.com.mx/elsoldetijuana/notas/n783536.htm

"Exigen a gritos que se resuelva el abasto

Playas de Rosarito.- Con pancartas en alto y al grito de "Dame más gasolina", un centenar de despachadores se manifestó a las afueras de la planta de Pemex de la colonia Reforma en esta ciudad, para exigir que se normalice el abasto del combustible, toda vez que la escasez trastornó ya el funcionamiento de gasolineras de todo el estado."

Playas de Rosarito .- With banners held high and the cry of "Give me more gasoline", a hundred gas station workers protested on the outskirts of the Pemex plant Pemex at Colonia Reforma in this city, to demand that the supply of fuel be normalized, whenever shortages disrupt the operation of gas stations around the state. "

[Edited on 7-23-2008 by fulano]

fdt - 7-23-2008 at 02:04 PM

Muy buena, felicidades :lol:

BajaGringo - 7-23-2008 at 02:33 PM

Like many here on BN, I read the news in addition to listening to the personal accounts of others living here and balance it all out with my own experience living here in Baja. Just because it is in the news doesn't mean that it is true or currently accurate. Most journalists today prefer to get their stories off the wire services or just reprints of other articles online. Little time seems to be spent in the field doing actual and updated reporting. I am beginning to believe that journalists just keep cycling the same news stories around and around and often the story is either wrong or old. Balancing real life with the news is not living with your head in the sand, it is just common sense. Most folks here seem to get it.

I just came back from Rosarito and checked out four gas stations:

1. Pemex South on Popotla Blvd.
2. Pemex AM/PM South
3. Pemex AM/PM across from McDonalds
4. Pemex North across from Calimax

All four were open, pumping gas, and no lines of folks "fighting" or "dodging bullets" to get gas. Here are the photos taken less than an hour ago. Since I have my head in the sand I must be missing something...

bancoduo - 7-23-2008 at 03:25 PM

I didn't realize Rosarito beach was in the jungle. It Looks like a paradise for grease monkeys. :lol:

palmeto99 - 7-23-2008 at 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by fdt

Quote:

Originally posted by fulano

You need to tell El Sol de Tijuana to stop printing those lies.

[Edited on 7-23-2008 by fulano]

Ok full, now you want me to tell the paper what to write? Anything else? I already fixed my events page on the web site. I hope you like it. I aim to please.

http://ultimatebaja.com/****/**********

I give full marks for fixing your page. No one was trying to pick on you . As for the fuel shortages, they are sporatic but they are happening because of cross border shopping by the americans. The Mexicans did not and could not anticipate the spike... :cool:

[Edited on 7-23-2008 by palmeto99]

[Edited on 7-24-2008 by BajaNomad]

movinguy - 7-23-2008 at 03:42 PM

I go by the Pemex on Agua Caliente near the Grand Hotel TJ several times a week - no lines, plenty of gas . . .

fishbuck - 7-23-2008 at 04:40 PM

Does anyone besides fulano believe or have experienced a fuel shortage in Baja?
Anyone?

palmeto99 - 7-23-2008 at 04:43 PM

This is why the posts from the newcomers carry more weight. The jaded members let their agenda block common sense posts which contain real important info....
Come on old folks, remove your heads from the dark regions and let the sunshine in....We are not going away... :cool:

fishbuck - 7-23-2008 at 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by palmeto99
This is why the posts from the newcomers carry more weight. The jaded members let their agenda block common sense posts which contain real important info....
Come on old folks, remove your heads from the dark regions and let the sunshine in....We are not going away... :cool:

Your insulting jibberish is getting old and is not at all helpful and informative.
Can you come back later when you actually know something? If ever? :mad:

fulano - 7-23-2008 at 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by fishbuck
Does anyone besides fulano believe or have experienced a fuel shortage in Baja?
Anyone?

Does anyone here believe that a poll of the beliefs or experiences of the 50-odd people who post here has any relevance to the actual fuel supply in Baja -- from TJ to Cabo?

Come on, let's see a show of hands.

Ya know fishbuck, I'll bet if we believe -- I mean if we really truly beleive -- we can save Tinkerbell and she can fly again.

fishbuck - 7-23-2008 at 04:52 PM

"Ya know fishbuck, I'll bet if we believe -- I mean if we really truly beleive -- we can save Tinkerbell and she can fly again. "

Um... okay I guess. :?:

tripledigitken - 7-23-2008 at 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by palmeto99
....We are not going away... :cool:

Who's we, Palmeto99? Would that be you and Fulano? Until recently I would have thrown in memo too, but he has been pretty scarce lately.

Ken

Bajaboy - 7-23-2008 at 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fishbuck
Does anyone besides fulano believe or have experienced a fuel shortage in Baja?
Anyone?

Yes, in 1999 but that's another story that involves cute girls, moonshine, and real gas shortages. Hey Buck, I'll share that one with you next time we hook up on some big yellowtails.

If only Fulano would have a hot air shortage....he's reading his way around Baja on the Internet while some of us are experiencing it.

Zac

bajalou - 7-23-2008 at 05:07 PM

Some of us believe the people that are in Baja a lot more than the "It's a crisis" newspapers that are only trying to sell more papers.

fulano - 7-23-2008 at 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by Bajaboy
If only Fulano would have a hot air shortage....he's reading his way around Baja on the Internet while some of us are experiencing it.

Zac

So says the payaso who is busy building "HIS" house in Bahia Asuncion with little knowledge that he really doesn't own it, that he could never own it, and that someday some Mexican will be living in it...for free.

palmeto99 - 7-23-2008 at 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fulano

Quote:

Originally posted by Bajaboy
If only Fulano would have a hot air shortage....he's reading his way around Baja on the Internet while some of us are experiencing it.

Zac

Please tell me your not doing one of these handshake deals on the land you think you own.
NEWS FLASH.Buying land on anything less then a bank trust proves you really are a complete ass. Buy a burlap sack,put all your money in it and leave next to any taco stand. Its safer to do that... fools born every minute..
I bet the girl that talked you into that deal used to vote for the NDP in British Columbia..... :lol:

When will you you people ever learn... :cool:

Maybe Bruce was right????

Sharksbaja - 7-23-2008 at 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by palmeto99

Quote:

Originally posted by fulano

Quote:

Originally posted by Bajaboy
If only Fulano would have a hot air shortage....he's reading his way around Baja on the Internet while some of us are experiencing it.

Zac

Please tell me your not doing one of these handshake deals on the land you think you own.
NEWS FLASH.Buying land on anything less then a bank trust proves you really are a complete burro. Buy a burlap sack,put all your money in it and leave next to any taco stand. Its safer to do that... fools born every minute..
I bet the girl that talked you into that deal used to vote for the NDP in British Columbia..... :lol:

When will you you people ever learn... :cool:

I still don't understand why you give a ratsass what anyone does with their money in Baja, or anywhere else for that matter.
Are you trying to help someone prevent a bad investment?

I'm gonna stick with the old proverbs:

"Live and let live"
and
"No news is good news".

tripledigitken - 7-23-2008 at 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by palmeto99

Quote:

Originally posted by tripledigitken

Quote:

Originally posted by palmeto99
....We are not going away... :cool:

Who's we, Palmeto99? Would that be you and Fulano? Until recently I would have thrown in memo too, but he has been pretty scarce lately.

Ken

Hey Ken,

If you want to get under my skin, take it to off topic so others do not have to participate in your prescribed therapy
for insecurity.... :cool:

Can't take being held accountable for what you say heh Pal?. Sorry if I got under your thin skin. I've lost count on your insults on Nomads.

Ken

[Edited on 7-24-2008 by tripledigitken]

palmeto99 - 7-23-2008 at 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharksbaja

Quote:

Originally posted by palmeto99

Quote:

Originally posted by fulano

Quote:

Originally posted by Bajaboy
If only Fulano would have a hot air shortage....he's reading his way around Baja on the Internet while some of us are experiencing it.

Zac

When will you you people ever learn... :cool:

Shark,

How many people have you steered clear of buying on the river in Mulege. How many really since you suffered severe damage from John and some damage from the hurricane before it. Is your house for sale and is that why you like so many others`have so little to say about the dangers of living there on the rio. Its hurricane season folks and if you live in Mulege, you should be preparing for it now.... :cool:

DianaT - 7-23-2008 at 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by palmeto99

Shark,

How many people have you steered clear of buying on the river in Mulege. How many really since you suffered severe damage from John and some damage from the hurricane before it. Is your house for sale and is that why you like so many others`have so little to say about the dangers of living there on the rio. Its hurricane season folks and if you live in Mulege, you should be preparing for it now.... :cool:

Yes Sharks, you have really tried to "hide"information just in case you might want sell someday. :rolleyes:

Let's see now. Was it you who posted all those pictures of your place devestated by the flood? Was it you who posted all about the mess in fixing up the place again? Was it you who led the drive to collect funds to help---yes, I do remember that equipment given to the local fire department.

You blew it Sharks, you have not done a good job of hiding the "facts" about living on that river. :rolleyes:

Diane

[Edited on 7-24-2008 by jdtrotter]

palmeto99 - 7-23-2008 at 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by jdtrotter

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Yes Sharks, you have really tried to "hide"information just in case you might want sell someday. :rolleyes:

Let's see now. Was it you who posted all those pictures of your place devestated by the flood? Was it you who posted all about the mess in fixing up the place again? Was it you led the drive to collect funds to help---yes, I do remember that equipment given to the local fire department.

You blew it Sharks, you have not done a good job of hiding the "facts" about living on that river. :rolleyes:

Diane

We all helped post hurricane.. How many times has Shark or others in Mulege warned others not to live or buy on the river in Mulege.. Never, Not once ,case closed. Prove me wrong...... :cool:

DianaT - 7-23-2008 at 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by palmeto99

Quote:

Originally posted by jdtrotter

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Yes Sharks, you have really tried to "hide"information just in case you might want sell someday. :rolleyes:

Diane

We all helped post hurricane.. How many times has Shark or others in Mulege warned others not to live or buy on the river in Mulege.. Never, Not once ,case closed. Prove me wrong...... :cool:

It really would be great to be able to make sweeping statements and know they are the Truth. You continue to imply that anyone with a positive attitude is just out to make a buck----it was just that this time, you picked on Sharks.

My point, in case you missed it, was that he never tried to to hide what happened---oh, he also posted about being ripped off after the flood.

Now, just who is this "we"the ones that all helped? Sure others helps, but just who is this we?

Oh, News Flash. We own a home in Bahia Asuncion and someday we may want to sell it, so in the interest of disclosure,

Bahia Asuncion can be quite cold and windy

Every so many years a hurricane makes its way to BA

Our home is not built to US building code standards, it has what we call character--one just has to get to know it.

There are scorpions in our front yard, and there some have found their way into the house

There might be rattlesnakes and an occasional coyote.

Second News Flash
Beware of buying homes anywhere in Baja Sur---there could be a hurricane.

Beware of buying homes on the Texas coast, Florida, etc---hurricanes.

And there are tornados in Kansas and wildfires in California---even in seemingly safe expensive suburbs like Poway.

Get real----opps, I forgot, you and the "we" are the ones with the Truth.

Diane

[Edited on 7-24-2008 by jdtrotter]

Diver - 7-23-2008 at 07:01 PM

Please confirm that my papers are worthless as well, so I can enjoy myself as much as Trotters and Bajaboy !
Please ! :lol:

palmeto99 - 7-23-2008 at 07:03 PM

Mulege has been hit hard twice in 5 years. Your area has not been hit in recent memory...... no one, not one person has said to beware of buying on the river in Mulege, just the river. Living in Mulege is fine . Its living on the river that we are talking about. Are you having trouble with english..
No one has responded to my point.. No one has warned anyone to not buy or live on the river in Mulege....Where are you Shark.... Respond to these charges .....

I guess not.... :cool:

tripledigitken - 7-23-2008 at 07:07 PM

Diane,

You brought up a good point on disclosure. I wonder how vocal Pal was about the dangers of hurricanes to the clients he had in Cabo. I'm sure he tried to talk them out of buying one of his condos.

Ken

fulano - 7-23-2008 at 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by Diver
I am trying to understand why you would choose to challenge Bajaboy on this issue.
You do not know the details of his individual situation nor that of many other members but you choose to assume that you know it all and insult theme on whatever issue.
Did you ever think that maybe there is something for you to learn out there ?

Diver, I was the one who started the suggestion that Bajaboy didn't really own anything. I know the details of his individual situation. He described his purchase in some detail on his blog here:

http://tinyurl.com/5jde4j

"The purchase process was fairly simple and straightforward and was completed in a few days. (Well, we did have some friends that assisted in the process which really made life a bit more comforting.) We basically purchased the house from the seller and the land from the municipality. In many of the smaller villages, much of the land is owned originally by the municipality. If someone decides to buy the land then a new title is created for that person. "

Bajaboy has been skinned and flicked by the Mexicans. He will be in denial for some time, maybe even forever.

Bajaboy - 7-23-2008 at 07:20 PM

Oh no, you got me....maybe I did get suckered. Maybe I should have asked you first for guidance. Keep on searching the Internet....you might just find what you are looking for.

Zac

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Originally posted by fulano

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palmeto99 - 7-23-2008 at 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by Bajaboy
Oh no, you got me....maybe I did get suckered. Maybe I should have asked you first for guidance. Keep on searching the Internet....you might just find what you are looking for.

Zac

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Originally posted by fulano

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You need to walk away from this board for a few hours and get at least 5 sources on buying land legally in Mexico. You will find this info from many sources and not from your "friends"
Please do not take my word on it. Do your research and get back to us because there is not anyone on this board that wants you to get ripped off. Its that simple and will only cost you an hour or so.

I would suggest the rest of you that have done the same as bajaboy research the same info. I am sure you will be surprized at what you find.
I am not trying to sell you anything but am trying to save you some headache. Good luck with it..

rpleger - 7-23-2008 at 10:17 PM

Don't buy on the river in Mulegé...you may get flooded...you may not get flooded...I live near the river and I got flooded once, only four feet...I still live there and I love it...